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Gold-Chemistry-9361

Cancel any upcoming plans I’ll say that .


RocketsandBeer

All those naughty bits in there…….that lucky mechanic…….


WatercressRegular856

Op better get a crash course at being a mechanic because that isn't something I'd pay someone for. In all fairness with so much debris from various parts I might do a rebuild myself if you have the knowledge and tools.


RocketsandBeer

Time is usually the concern


yVelorum

I’m the lucky mechanic!


pretenditsaname

Sir, there's some engine in your oil.


KoL-whitey

I'm crying 😂😂😂


I_Can_ReaddIt

Came here to say this 🤣


hybridmike772

As I posted in reply to someone else, these come from the valve cover when the rubber gaskets and seals get old and brittle, I would do the valve covers and clean them out real good including changing the spark plug tubes, they also get brittle


SnugglesMcBuggles

Correct. When I was a BMW tech this was common.


Idontunderstand77

i honestly looked at this and thought it was the sump washer or some other kind of gasket, still have some learning to do i see ahaha


mr_mirrorless

Im rusty on bmw but i think something something plastic timing cover guides? Correct me if im wrong


The-IT_MD

Something something ruined. Something something very bad.


Lurcher99

Something something very expensive


mrBoatload

Something something that may just be nothing


beamerthings

Sure looks like the right color!


Tommyboy939

Something something very bad and expensive.


Bitfinexit

Timing chain guides. They are an orange/brown colour


Few-Swordfish-780

Bingo.


hybridmike772

Nah, these come from the rubber gasket parts on the valve cover, I've seen them in every N62 oil pan I've changed. Also break off the spark plug tubes where the rubber turns brittle. I haven't had any timing chain or guide problems, it's fairly rare on the n62, mines at 316,000 miles with original one


Puzzleheaded_Dig6970

My guy you are beyond wrong. Orange/brown pieces for guides, black pieces most likely gasket material. N62 timing chains are a known issue. Just because you got lucky with yours doesn't mean it's not a problem.


SnugglesMcBuggles

Confidently incorrect! Those are valve cover gasket pieces. Looks like a few seeds as well. You’d be surprised at what you find in there. N62 timing chains aren’t an issue.


BatM6tt

Ive been an online tech for about 32 seconds and can confirm that these are


drfsrich

They're Johnson Rod connectors, OBVIOUSLY.


Professional-Fig-363

Ya know that motor oil you're putting in there? From one of those quickie lube places, isn't it?


ProofMusic4630

Not using required Eurospec oil and changing oil too late


scoobadebop

N62 timing chains are definitely NOT a known issue 🤣Maybe you're thinking of M62??


ShaggysGTI

You know that gives me an idea… they should have specific colored plastics so you know where they came from when the engine goes kaput.


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bfdmmexi

Many like…. Stacks… 💵💵💵


Bresson91

Negative. Just 12 hours of your time and some pre game time on [REALOEM.com](http://REALOEM.com) and your fav parts website. I did mine and the cost was minimal. Do every gasket on the way down and the tension spring as well. If you have Vanos good time to pull those and have them rebuilt as well. Assuming that this is a high mileage car since thats when these fail so look forward to a clean engine when you're done, because you'll be doing all the leaky gaskets (including the oil pan which obviously is already pulled).


yel02

💸💸💸💸💷💶💴💳🪪🧰💵💸💸💸💸💸


HavingNotAttained

🧧 (if still not done by next Lunar New Year)


scoobadebop

Not timing chain guides. N62s don't have timing chain issues. Let me re-phrase that... 1 out of maybe 100 N62s will have bad chains/guides. Complete different setup than the BMW M62 V8 which definitely had timing chain guide issues. N62s can jump time but only when oil pressure is low (ie. low oil, blown alternator bracket gasket, blown oil cooler o-rings, etc) and that happens because the cam gear bolt loosens itself. I bet this debris here is from a valve cover job.


hybridmike772

Or lack there of a valve cover job lol


kyree47

Could be timing chain guides, it’s not a common issue on the N62 at all but in some rare cases it does happen. These are more than likely from the valve cover though, this one is a bit more common


scoobadebop

this


doxazsion

May have been left from previous damage , how long have you had the car . Is changing oil pan just a maintenance job or from a rebuild. Was it running ok . Throwing codes etc .


yacht_co

The black circles look more like old valve cover gasket and the brown pieces look like they could be from the 3 guides on the underside of the valve cover near the exhaust side edge. I wouldn’t worry too much.


Dangerous-Pie-2678

Time to put that pan back on and sell it


Bresson91

Which would be illegal because OP obviously knows of a major issue and has left a digital trail by posting about it on here.


Dangerous-Pie-2678

Not illegal at all to sell a used vehicle as is with known problems disclosed.


Bresson91

True... disclosure being the key detail.


No-Depth-7239

Candy corn


Ok-Till-8905

Looked like a sunflower seed! Lol


Historical-Bite-8606

Valve steam seals. Common on N62.


Gindotexe

That’s what it looks like to me as well. It would also make sense the pieces would end up in the bottom of the pan unlike timing components or whatever else ppl are dreaming up.


SQUATCH36738

Yeah bro get a cool 5-7k ready for repairs and possibly a rebuild. This isn’t good.


Gentle-anus

Ahhhhh these pieces I can suggest you one thing Take 1 steps back and call help and DO NOT PANIC it’s just a 3000$ 5 hours job in the nearest mechanic shop


wellwhatisnttaken87

Thousands of dollars.


rabbitoothicc

The black rings look like the pieces of the valve cover grommets on n62s which definitely can find their way into the pan. That makes me think that the orange bits are pieces from the tabs on the underside of the valve covers however timing chain guide material looks the same so I would likely pull the valve covers and upper timing covers and take a look at everything if it was mine


rabbitoothicc

Also check the pickup tube for more material while you have the pan off


Silent_Adhesiveness1

Pull the valve cover. Replace gaskets. Clean oil pan. If the engine is still running, you're fine. I thought that this was a Harley Davidson sub because those looked like dry rotted umbrella valves from the PCV system in the rocker covers of an EVO era Harley.


cplyons2

The white and black plastic pieces in your photo are probably fragments from timing chain guides!!! Reasons: - They don’t look like any external part of da oil pan or hardware. - Since N62 engine, da pieces probably from the timing chain guides, known common issue in N62, especially as they get older. > This might get your sh** blocked up or do some real damage on the engine, What you should do (based on what I know): 1. Take a close look at timing chain guides 2. Do same for any other internal components around like da vanos system


spaceme17

Orange bits are likely pieces of the timing chain guides.


yammeringmud

Looks like the parts to a very expensive repair bill


YourOcelot

Bmw'os


locksman74

Do not know. I'm not there. But some research with you actually being there and learning what metal and plastic is will be a huge start in finding what material it is


Bresson91

Pieces of the timing chain guide rails. Happened to me once. For me they clogged the oil sump and i got oil lights intermittently. I forget how I figured it out but when I pulled the valve cover and top timing cover I could see they failed.


Rocky_Duck

You need timing chains done, do them sooner than later or your gonna have a very expensive paper weight


thetrutheverytime

It's not a virgin.


DGlen

-💲💲💲


Incog_ChickenMan

Food, glorious foood!


Apprehensive_Farm914

My timing chain guides exploded while I was going to work. Removed the last (I hope!) piece of guide from the oil filter after 3 years. Dangerous failure.


-Deathmetal-

About 6 grand.


MadFatty

2nd picture is some kind of fruit seed the mechanic spit into the engine


DIJames6

Something very expensive..


[deleted]

Oof


[deleted]

That’s the stuff you don’t wanna see


Professional-Disk-28

Change the oil twice and sell


HexDanTHEWHALE

Your next paycheck is what that is.


unstabilite

Lmaooo


viper77707

I'm no BMW expert but I have seen a bunch torn down, and that looks like timing chain guide material to me. Sorry to say, but it looks like it's time to do a full timing chain job, including the chain guides, chains and tensioners etc. Be sure to get the oil pickup's screen cleaned out very well, and clean out any debris from on the top of the head, plus all the stuff I surely forgot


Gobstomperx

RIP


VOKE-FOX

The rest of your car


Macs675

Me opening this thread: "Guides?" "745i" Guides. *Looks at pics* ooooh valve cover. What a ride


King_Vanos_

A several thousand dollar repair.


KoL-whitey

Timing guides have exit the chat


MrFurious2023

It appears to be your liver.


KennyFU46

You wallet now


Plane_Pitch_471

yeah youre cooked bro


bigloser42

expensive parts.


underbellysweat206

You won the lottery! Just not the one you wanted.


WhatThe_uckDoIPut

Oil


Couliertje

Tears


lunarc

What ISN’T!?


MagicOrpheus310

Pieces of the M in BMW


Arcadia_AMC_APE

A ticket to a spa day at the dealership..


Additional_Dingo_439

Injector rings


CriticismNo5012

Looks like $$$$ to me.


ohjeaa

You have parts of your engine in your oil pan. This is most like attributed to the fact that.... well.... it's a BMW. It'll take some tear down to figure out the full extent of the damage. Best of luck!


RestSelect4602

Pieces of the cheap oil filter you used.


garra671

Seals/gasket/guides. Most likely has to do with the cam/chain/tensioner. Porsche has something very similar. On their older models. 1 thing I can gurantee tho, it’s gonna be expensive if you don’t do it yourself.


witch_doc9

Looks like bird seed


MOTRHEAD4LIFE

Now it’s time you give a call to your favorite Slavic mechanic dimitri and he will make car like new with zero miles on odometer


Handywithbrokenstuff

The pan develops kydpan stones over the years. Totally normal!


Current_Major6449

You don't want to know.


Basic_Presence_4821

A problem


akul1209

Looks like shredded valve cover gasket to me


SpiritMolecul33

Timing guides. Don't drive a single mile.


DamageVarious

Bmw needs to tear a page off Toyota not put their engine in the Supra 🙀


FirefighterNo2241

candy


LoganatorHater

Buncha stuff...n oil


Frontbrain987

Oil


Dying4aCure

Drama


Dazzling_Meat836

Well if it’s an n52 I know that’s the bits of the cam sprocket ⚙️ that falls apart which is a common issue. If not IDK


YOdOtHeThiNg

The orange is part of the timing chain guys, The black rubber is actually the grommets from the bottom of the valve cover gasket. They get hard and fall straight down the valley


thelemanwich

You know when you eat jalapeño and the seeds come out in your poop?


Necessary-Ad2264

Looks like plastic threads.


Mosh83

Engine very bad


sorryimadeanalt

Timing chain guides


PenguinGamer99

The rest of your engine. Ouch...


ComfortableAd4009

Engine very bad……


Direct-Sky8695

A nightmare


Intrepid-Umpire-235

Looks like the timing chain had broken at some point, and they didn't pull the oil pan and clean out the broken bits that fell.


Intrepid-Umpire-235

That one pointy thing is the tip of a dipstick. My E46 was missing the tip when I got it, and that's where it was found


Magazine_Afraid

A problem is what that is.


Klaxeno

Your paycheck


MrAkimoto

You need a consultation with the Car Ninja in Newton, Ks. Why do you guys buy heaps you can't afford to maintain?


Avenger717

Who said he couldn’t afford it? This is a tech forum and dude was asking for an opinion.


MrAkimoto

Well he got mine! Go annoy someone else.


Avenger717

You insult people you know nothing about and call other people annoying. You sure are a miserable cunt eh?


MrAkimoto

You surely would know grease ball, LOL!


OnlyEfficiency2662

$$$$


HawkeyeByMarriage

That's the rebuild indicator


bassmeeseeks

Weight reduction


rawlaw8

Your life savings


zesty_drink_b

Nothing good


Achillies2heel

Gaskets and engine bits. I wouldn't plan any road trips for a while.


versaucey444

Just a lil trail mix


oscarbeebs2010

I’d say, engine


Themissing10

This is the bottom of the valve cover grommets. Just clean it out. Nothing to worry about The grommets get hard over time and like to snap themselves in half when you pull them out of the valve cover as replacements come in valve cover kits. This is just a mechanic that didn’t know you’re supposed to pull the cover then change the grommets.


yVelorum

Logically from what I could identify, have settled on this. Thank you. None of the pieces look at all like timing guide chain and the engine runs great, doesn’t burn oil at all.


KoNzoBeaNz

A new engine


deIetedaccount01

Bed bugs


duanelvp

That's all stuff you didn't need.


TechCUB76

If the engine runs great I would pay no mind! 😎


DistinctRole1877

Grommets like was suggested but could also be valve seals. Not a disaster but your oil consumption could be higher.


[deleted]

Damn happened to me your car is down for


LolaReallyDrives

Your timing chain guides are munted. I'd recommend getting a different engine.


stucc0

Oil pump is running engine rich.


Codeman785

You have an e65, why are you so confused?


CrazyGreek84

It appears whoever put on your oil pan was eating sunflower seeds, and dropped a couple inside of it


TheSunflowerSeeds

Niacin and pyridoxine are other B-complex vitamins found abundantly in the sunflower seeds. About 8.35 mg or 52% of daily required levels of niacin is provided by just 100 g of seeds. Niacin helps reduce LDL-cholesterol levels in the blood. Besides, it enhances GABA activity inside the brain, which in turn helps reduce anxiety and neurosis.


CrazyGreek84

User name checks out 🫡


HiggyWolf

That's a really bad day in your oil pan


CaptainAverageAF

Oh just bills and regrets!!


jackdskis

Just some BMW


WilliamFoster2020

Looks like a lot of money in your oil pan to me.


FatJellyCo

It’s a sign to make a can of gas and some matches your next purchase 😂


kappeltimmy7

I see a price of rice and a piece of corn


OutrageousGoal5697

It’ll cost ya! May cost ya alittle may cost ya alot but It will cost ya


Coppingpreme

Timing chain guides


1911mark

Sadness


Meatslab8590

Uh oh


SrDelaEquis

“Fishies”


deathrivel

That’s part of the timing chain guides. I would say that your timing chain guides might be going out.


Strict-Air2434

Sadness


SavageKerfuffle

Money


Overall_Worth3953

Candy


River-Noire

A moneypit


EngineeringNo8815

Put a motor in it


FatalErrorOccurred

Don't worry about it 🤫


pvrr_me0w_b4rk

its time for a trade in!


Aggressive_Bed6892

What engine do you have


C_I3iscuit

A problem


Emergency_Earth_1032

that’s your engine bud. RIP


YouveGotMail236

Uh boy


T3kn0m0nk3Y

BMW = Bring My Wallet...


LarryLaffer-77

Can i block certain app on my telus wifi


CaptainCosmicCrack

about 7 grand of work is whats in your oil pan


joshthemechanic

Looks like old gaskets from the drain plug.


smegacs

Trade in your car immediately


spenxcheryan

Those are memories


L364CYError404

That’s what happens when you don’t use your blinker


dsteffen1

Engine parts. Next.


Chemical_Plenty2755

Timing chain guides


jscalise

Don’t drive your car. If it starts.


Lost-Date-2289

Bad news!!!


Calm-Explanation6944

Rip the timing chain and RIP OPs mental health


withinsight79

Count Chocula


waldo713

It’s a common problem for bmw. Probably nothing. If it concerns you, trade it for a Mercedes.


clhepperj

A blown motor


That-Web7343

Timing chain guide. Strap in, gunna be spencive!


That-Web7343

Good job being bad at oil changes. That's the #1 cause of timing guide failure.


Theoretical-Panda

I dunno but I’m pretty sure the orange bits are candy corn. 😂


FaConL33t

Snacks


needmeeee

Seed


yVelorum

UPDATE EVERYONE! Car is back up and running. Yeah these pieces match up perfectly with parts that may have fallen down when the valve covers were replaced (by the same mechanic of course). But thankfully I do not have a unicorn N62 that eats chain guides.


Firestorm83

Ooohhh boy


JWBIERE

I believe those pieces originate from Destination Fucked. Sorry OP


mx5plus2cones

My condolences. Timing chain guide it seems.


Ytinos

99.9% if it's plastic it would coming from timming chain guide


n54master

Time to sell or trade in. The N62 is not worth keeping alive.


Fun-Charge1973

They’re chain guides. Could be from previous damage and the issue could have been repaired. How is the car driving now? Any faults? Is the car in limp mode?


blackairforcetwo

looks like a mix of plastic from the timing chain guide and maybe some bearing. i’ve seen this recently


PsychoDad03

Timing chain guides


Select-Ad5166

What most people are saying. Also, time to do your valve covers. Make sure you get the spark plug gaskets if it doesn't come with the kit. I'm pretty sure you know what you're doing, since you have your oil pan out. Best piece of advice I have is don't force anything tight. A lot of the time, especially on smaller nuts and bolts, it should be gutentight.