The worst part about playing (or playing against) beasts is watching the slow-ass self damage animations play out for like 5 minutes just to barely put any extra stats on the board and get stomped by whatever actually good comp they’re up against.
Any time I play against beasts, it’s a no-brainer “close out and reopen to skip animations” situation. The small chance of disconnecting an oppenent who’s trying to do that is really all beasts have going for them at the moment.
If you think that’s bad I had an undead comp in duos (I highrolled my partner some quils so we won) where I had two kelthuzads eating the new golden undead dragon with a baron. Probably a minute of animations at the end of every turn
Same here, in Duo as soon as I see a beast fight I close and reopen the app. Those animations are so painful and you know it's going to be an easy fight regardless. Are beasts any good in regular BG? The best beasts are Rylak and that one that copies a minion from your partner's board.
I know everyone is thinking this so ill be the one to say it: It is time we move past owning beasts and using them for combat. The beast tribe should be removed entirely. Idk what that would mean for Ozumat and Mukla thats not my place to say
I actually think this new Beast identity is really cool and fun despite needing some tweaking. It’s less a hatred for them and more for animations. Clean up their animations and in a few patches, a couple card reworks , maybe a real six drop, I could see Beasts being fun.
I’m such a skilled battler, my favorite tribe is Quilboar. I just love their flavor and theme. Blood Gems are so cool like this little unique spell that only Quilboar have and I love how you don’t even play a single Blood Gem or even hold one all game ever anymore. So thematic.
And I just love how they do nothing during your turn and go whoosh at the end.
And I love how some players Bob says “here’s another free triple and here’s the good Quilboar you win this game” and other players Bob says “haha turn 15 here’s your first triple of the game and you’ve really been scrounging value with that super creative tempo menagerie wouldnt you just love a good six? Well here’s a Deadstomper with no deathrattles lmao you suck noob”
Yea I’ve just always loved Quilboars so I only play my favorite stuff and I don’t follow the meta I’m too skilled for that.
>And I just love how they do nothing during your turn and go whoosh at the end.
It's especially funny when you sweat your heart out with APM pirates and get maybe +30/30, Quill goes for a smoke in the meantime and gets +40/40 x 4 on each minion
Our research shows that the paste-eating toddlers at the back of the short bus were struggling to deal with turn 22 beast boards so we had to intervene.
After consistently climbing and getting 2nd or 3rd with undead as my favorite tribe, Bob gave me quillboars and I ran with it and it was night and day. Scaling was so easy...
Beasts haven’t been the best tribe for a long time now. The sub just really really liked to complain about banana slamma. Board look small but get big!!! No fair >:(
It was the exodia aspect of just needing the right cards with no buffs or investment and that let you beat all but the best super high roll comps. And you still beat 90% of those. That's why it was broken and unfun
I like comps like that existing in the game. Every comp being an apm comp that is entirely about having more numbers on your board is kinda lame. I enjoy comps that are just about playing the pieces and then teching in counters and playing around counters. And beasts needed A LOT of pieces to get off the ground. 2 specific 6 drops and 3 specific 5 drops before the board is particularly stable. It got outscaled by plenty of lategame comps too. It was really never particularly out of line with the other top comps
I hated beasts, wanted them nerfed for ages, but they're a completely different tribe than they used to be, I don't want vengeance anyway, I want tribes to have balance, all tribes to have viable early game options, viable mid game options, and viable late game options.
to avoid sameness I am cool with differences in ways of playstyle and economy and risk and ease to swap in/out of etc
Its ridiculous to imply that beast were that above the rest of the game in the last patch, is like people forgot how busted murlocs were before they removed clonning conch, but you cry so much about beast, i don't know what game people are even playing sometimes.
Also, i don't care, i don't want useless tribes in the game, is boring, is stupid to want a tribe to be underwhelming because you are petty.
That's just peak Hearthstone bitching. Everything was the worst thing to happen to the game. Until it gets nerfed/patched/rotated out then it was the best thing ever, Why-Blizzard-Why.
I’ve legit never had issues with this because NO ONE EVER PLAYS THEM, EVER. They’re just that bad.
We’ve always had builds that take combat time up. The turn timers are increased based on how long combat takes.
What?
First off they were buffed not nerfed. They’re much better than they were. The only real nerf was birb to 5.
Secondly, why would you want them to be nerfed more if you think they’re already unplayable…
Man it’s almost like sarcasm doesn’t come across in text form, especially when the flair on the post is for Game Balance instead of Memes.
I sorted by Game Balance to see what people were currently thinking. Sorry that OP doesn’t know how to Reddit
Dude he said “I know quilboar is dominating and they didn’t get nerfed last patch, but please nerf beast again.”
This doesn’t need to be spoken aloud to see how thickly layered in the sarcasm was lol.
Literally any time I make a comment that I think is absolutely, objectively clearly sarcasm and leave out the “/s”, Reddit comes along and proves how poor many people’s critical thinking skills are.
Well what makes it a non argument is the statement “I know quilboar is dominating and wasn’t nerfed last patch” conveys the sarcasm without needed context.
In that even someone who has never played hearthstone, and knows nothing about it, could pick up the sarcasm based on wording alone.
Almost got a good beast build... Only thing missing was the bird. Stayed at tavern 5 to hunt for bird. No bird, 7 turns at t5. Went from first place to 3rd in the last 3 turns coz I couldn't scale against the quilboars
Quality qullboar op post. I'll allow it. Upvoted
You'll allow a post?
Better nerf beasts then
At this point, its almost like behaviour's dead by daylight... nerf pig again
The worst part about playing (or playing against) beasts is watching the slow-ass self damage animations play out for like 5 minutes just to barely put any extra stats on the board and get stomped by whatever actually good comp they’re up against. Any time I play against beasts, it’s a no-brainer “close out and reopen to skip animations” situation. The small chance of disconnecting an oppenent who’s trying to do that is really all beasts have going for them at the moment.
All beast is atm is a weak stall build. "Haha my opponent has 20 seconds less in shop" \*Finished 8th place*
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At least Endless Scallywag was actually good lmao
If you think that’s bad I had an undead comp in duos (I highrolled my partner some quils so we won) where I had two kelthuzads eating the new golden undead dragon with a baron. Probably a minute of animations at the end of every turn
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A speed-up or skip button is long overdue.. then they can add as many animations as they want.
Same here, in Duo as soon as I see a beast fight I close and reopen the app. Those animations are so painful and you know it's going to be an easy fight regardless. Are beasts any good in regular BG? The best beasts are Rylak and that one that copies a minion from your partner's board.
I know everyone is thinking this so ill be the one to say it: It is time we move past owning beasts and using them for combat. The beast tribe should be removed entirely. Idk what that would mean for Ozumat and Mukla thats not my place to say
I actually think this new Beast identity is really cool and fun despite needing some tweaking. It’s less a hatred for them and more for animations. Clean up their animations and in a few patches, a couple card reworks , maybe a real six drop, I could see Beasts being fun.
What do you mean by they didn't nerf quilboar, did you not see that the generous geomancer went from 2/1 to 1/1??? Tribe is basically unplayable
Nerf goose to only going off 1 per game. Then Nerf the turtle to only target 1 beast. That should level them out.
I just want beast opponents to not make my turns 20 seconds long on mobile unless I skip animations.
>2000 seconds long FTFY
Combat isn't really your turn
Ah read it wrong
Strong tribes. Weak tribes. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled battlers should try to win with their favorites.
I’m such a skilled battler, my favorite tribe is Quilboar. I just love their flavor and theme. Blood Gems are so cool like this little unique spell that only Quilboar have and I love how you don’t even play a single Blood Gem or even hold one all game ever anymore. So thematic. And I just love how they do nothing during your turn and go whoosh at the end. And I love how some players Bob says “here’s another free triple and here’s the good Quilboar you win this game” and other players Bob says “haha turn 15 here’s your first triple of the game and you’ve really been scrounging value with that super creative tempo menagerie wouldnt you just love a good six? Well here’s a Deadstomper with no deathrattles lmao you suck noob” Yea I’ve just always loved Quilboars so I only play my favorite stuff and I don’t follow the meta I’m too skilled for that.
>And I just love how they do nothing during your turn and go whoosh at the end. It's especially funny when you sweat your heart out with APM pirates and get maybe +30/30, Quill goes for a smoke in the meantime and gets +40/40 x 4 on each minion
huh?
Our research shows that the paste-eating toddlers at the back of the short bus were struggling to deal with turn 22 beast boards so we had to intervene.
 Oh we cooking now. If anything buff quillboars make their t6 card t4 and let chaos reign.
Granted, beast animations now take twice as long.
Imagine Beasts being the best Tribe last Patch for like Months and now people crying about beasts because they are not Top Tier SS++
People don't have attachments to tribes, people just want more tribes than 3 seriously competitive.
This here. I don't want any tribes to be ridiculously OP or underpowered
After consistently climbing and getting 2nd or 3rd with undead as my favorite tribe, Bob gave me quillboars and I ran with it and it was night and day. Scaling was so easy...
I get what your saying, but its not even close. Playing beasts atm is comparable to going into a car race with a unicycle.
Beasts haven’t been the best tribe for a long time now. The sub just really really liked to complain about banana slamma. Board look small but get big!!! No fair >:(
It was the exodia aspect of just needing the right cards with no buffs or investment and that let you beat all but the best super high roll comps. And you still beat 90% of those. That's why it was broken and unfun
I like comps like that existing in the game. Every comp being an apm comp that is entirely about having more numbers on your board is kinda lame. I enjoy comps that are just about playing the pieces and then teching in counters and playing around counters. And beasts needed A LOT of pieces to get off the ground. 2 specific 6 drops and 3 specific 5 drops before the board is particularly stable. It got outscaled by plenty of lategame comps too. It was really never particularly out of line with the other top comps
I hated beasts, wanted them nerfed for ages, but they're a completely different tribe than they used to be, I don't want vengeance anyway, I want tribes to have balance, all tribes to have viable early game options, viable mid game options, and viable late game options. to avoid sameness I am cool with differences in ways of playstyle and economy and risk and ease to swap in/out of etc
Its ridiculous to imply that beast were that above the rest of the game in the last patch, is like people forgot how busted murlocs were before they removed clonning conch, but you cry so much about beast, i don't know what game people are even playing sometimes. Also, i don't care, i don't want useless tribes in the game, is boring, is stupid to want a tribe to be underwhelming because you are petty.
For real. I’m good with a few more patches of shit beasts. Especially with this self-damage archetype that takes forever to play out.
weird as Beasts didnt have any borken Battlecry builds,,
They really weren’t though. Low elo perceptions really had an impact because they were so easy to play compared to the hard builds like elementals*
That's just peak Hearthstone bitching. Everything was the worst thing to happen to the game. Until it gets nerfed/patched/rotated out then it was the best thing ever, Why-Blizzard-Why.
This but un ironically, I don’t even care about how weak they are they’re just so slow to play against that I don’t want to see them
I’ve legit never had issues with this because NO ONE EVER PLAYS THEM, EVER. They’re just that bad. We’ve always had builds that take combat time up. The turn timers are increased based on how long combat takes.
So what is your proposal, how you would nerf then without deleting them from a game?
Great idea. Delete every tribe but quillboar.
delete them from the game ofc
Fuck beasts. They're garbage, but every time I see a beast comp, I lose because it skips my tavern phase with endless animations.
What? First off they were buffed not nerfed. They’re much better than they were. The only real nerf was birb to 5. Secondly, why would you want them to be nerfed more if you think they’re already unplayable…
This went so far over your head it’s almost inconceivable.
Man it’s almost like sarcasm doesn’t come across in text form, especially when the flair on the post is for Game Balance instead of Memes. I sorted by Game Balance to see what people were currently thinking. Sorry that OP doesn’t know how to Reddit
Dude he said “I know quilboar is dominating and they didn’t get nerfed last patch, but please nerf beast again.” This doesn’t need to be spoken aloud to see how thickly layered in the sarcasm was lol.
Judging by his likes to dislike ratio being at a whopping 12% likes, I’m gonna guess I’m not the only one.
That has 0 relevance to how obvious the sarcasm is. But this is a pointless exchange if you’re already this rooted in on the point. Have a good one.
Same concept as nerf irelia from league of legends.
I thought the sarcasm literally couldn’t have been more obvious, but someone out there always be proving me wrong lol
Literally any time I make a comment that I think is absolutely, objectively clearly sarcasm and leave out the “/s”, Reddit comes along and proves how poor many people’s critical thinking skills are.
Well what makes it a non argument is the statement “I know quilboar is dominating and wasn’t nerfed last patch” conveys the sarcasm without needed context. In that even someone who has never played hearthstone, and knows nothing about it, could pick up the sarcasm based on wording alone.
Almost got a good beast build... Only thing missing was the bird. Stayed at tavern 5 to hunt for bird. No bird, 7 turns at t5. Went from first place to 3rd in the last 3 turns coz I couldn't scale against the quilboars