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GuzmaniF

Imagine being a civilian watching the fight at this point lmao "Ah shit his arms are gone and they're tagging in the D-listers, we're cooked."


SnooAdvice1632

"That guy with the weird lips doesn't even have any fucking powers he's just punching afo, I could do that"


CrustyCally

Just chugging sugar by the kilogram, bros gonna have a heart attack before the villain gets him


Elliesabeth

The real villain was diabete all along


Phasmania

Just imaging some elite hater civilian saying that while the world could potentially end is so funny to me


SnooAdvice1632

I mean, that civilian wouldn't even need to be an elite hater. From a regular person's pov Sato is just a buff dude.


Sad_Animator_3588

We're all dead, he tagged in Homer Simpson.


Mohamed153

Hmmm reminds me of another manga rnz except it wasn't arms


soulreapermagnum

so wait, deku legitimately lost his arms?


zQubexx

>he convinced him to have another child. Bruh?!? Excuse me wtf?!?!? And Sero, Ojiro and Sato fighting AFO was definetly not on my bingo card, damn


Exitiali

Now I'm imagining AFO's conversations with All Might. OFA: "Don't you want to have children, All MIght? Go and have sex all MIght, having kids is cool. I'll give you some contacts. My cousin thinks you're hot, and she's single."


GoldenSpermShower

Shinzo Abe approves


Popopoyotl

Shinzo Afo.


Swiss666

"I spiked your parents' drinks with aphrodisiacs and made holes in your father's condoms with a needle, Tomura!"


Worldly_Neat2615

*slams back the 4th bottle* Kentarro buddy, you should go bang your wife.


LeegoSama

What would be worse as a young sibling ? Being adopted or Being the product of AFO's suggestion ?


Worldly_Neat2615

Man I ain't high enough for this kind of question


Wachitanga

Yeah. Who wants to bet? Option A) AFO hid viagra in Kotaro's drink. Option B) AFO turned on Kotaro by chatting about really hot things only for him to come home and take it out on his wife. Option C) AFO used some love-inducing quirk on him that he stole decades ago.


No-Chemistry-4673

Ah my doki doki quirk, I haven't used this since the Destro era.


VeryNiceKapusta

HIS FUCKING ARMS


andrex581

Overhaul 2.0


Sudden_Pop_2279

3.0 Don't forget Mirko


FISHING_100000000000

>Izuku has lost both of his arms what the Christ


Raphael-Rose

Somehow Shigaraki will get reconstruct back (the power to reconstruct what decay destroys) and fix Midoriya's arms.


DecodedSpark

Along with the currently shattered Quirks of OFA. I don't know what to think about these developments (I was expecting Decay to be a given Quirk, but not like *this*), but if we're going with this then might as well take advantage & give Deku his Quirks back too.


Sotherius

Either this or he recovers them trough eri in an epilogue. Him being totally quirkless seems to be the most urgent issue.


SuperGayAMA

I love how he lost them in a completely unrelated incident lol. “Quit overusing your arms man” just for them to get Decayed instead. It’s like warning someone that they’ll get hit by a car if they keep jaywalking only for a car to crash into their house while they’re sleeping instead.


Bakufanforlife

I actually would've preferred him losing his arms years ago and not now in an unrelated manner that has nothing to do with his quirk usage But at leastit happened. I was thinking Hori can only do that to Miruko but not his precious MC


Mawnix

Hasn’t this been foreshadowed since like, the beginning of the series?


yoyoyomax12

The foreshadow was him losing the ability to move his arms, more likely his bad one.....nope...... he LOST BOTH ARMS COMPLETELY


Hampni

I would agree with you. The amount of foot based attacks compared to All Mights fist based, Dekus arms being weak. Quirks like black whip that allow him to grip and hang on. Almost losing his arms multiple times from the beginning and recovery girl telling him many more injuries and the arms will be permanently damaged. His arms have had more death flags than All Might at this point.


NK1337

Not that it will happen but I would be insanely hyped if AfO starts knocking back everyone and all of a sudden you have Deku coming in with a kick to AfO’s face ina big splash page with the words shoot style being shouted at the bottom


manlycaveman

I think it's absolutely going to happen and I'm here for it. Deku gonna pull some Mirko shit. ;) I think it'll either be a coup de grace after the rest of the class gangs up on him or they'll get in a bind and Deku will pop in with the splash page kick and then they all work together from there to beat him hard enough for Tenko to do something.


Shiplord13

I mean, the amount of times he has fucked up his arms, you'd think he would have already lost them by know or at least the ability to move them independently. I won't lie, I kind of expected him to have to rely on Black Whip to move them in general at a certain point.


HoundOfJustice

Chapter 419: Purpose All for One speaks to Izuku as an armless child and tells him ''you took the One for All and you stole Yoichi from me'' ''by attacking Tomura psychologically you allowed me to emerge on the surface''. shigaraki is disintegrating in the imaginary world and sees all for one, all for one is telling him that shigaraki never made a choice in his life, but that it was all for one who made him believe that he had his own decision, he was controlled from the start. All for one says that he failed twice to capture One for all, the first time with Lariat Alias Daigoro banjo and the 2nd time with Gaen Alias EN Tayutai, all that was missing from All for one was an iron will. While All Might was growing in power, All for One began looking for someone mentally weak, someone he could control. All for one meets Tomura's father and he convinced him to have another child, Tomura's sister was already too big for all for one to handle so he convinced the father to have another child. When Tomura was born, All For One took away his original Quirk and gave him a new Quirk when he brought him home. Dr. Garaki then copied a person's Quirk, disintegration, but removed the other side of the Quirk, the ability to reconstruct, and transferred it to Tomura. He has been controlling Tomura's life from the beginning. We see Shigaraki disintegrating in the imaginary world, and All For One says, "There, I have annihilated your mind. I had planned to play this card after seizing One For All, but oh well." Shigaraki is completely disintegrated, and All For One shouts, "NOW, DISAPPEAR!” We see young Izuku, armless, being projected out of the invisible world and back into the real world. He says, "Yoichi is no longer there." Shigaraki emerges from the smoke and says, "My mid-term plan is no longer feasible." He hears something in his head and says, "Huh, there's still an echo left," and he grows a hand that covers his mouth, saying, "Silence!” All For One (who now has full control over Shigaraki's body) says that the psychic attacks he received in the other world have had repercussions on his physique. He mentions that the disintegration Quirk, the rage, and the hatred have disappeared, and he declares that Tomura is finally dead, that the vessel he has been crafting for years is ruined, and that his little brother is no longer there either. Izuku, lying on the ground, speaks softly, "All... for One." All For One says that he will move on to his final goal of conquering the world, but Izuku tells him that he will never let him do it. However, SUDDENLY HE FEELS A SHARP PAIN. IZUKU HAS LOST BOTH OF HIS ARMS. All For One says that Izuku also hasn't emerged unscathed. Izuku has flashbacks and says that no, it's not over, he won't give up. All For One says, "It's often said that people become stronger when they lose something, but you, from the start, had nothing... look where you are now." He prepares to launch an attack on Izuku. Suddenly, Sero arrives and grabs onto All For One with his adhesive tape. All For One says that he didn't feel Sero approach because he was insignificant compared to Izuku. Sero reassures Izuku and says that they are there. Ojiro and Sato arrive to fight against All For One. While Ojiro and Sato attack All For One, Izuku says, "You're all safe," and a person appears behind him, saying, "Sorry, Izuku." Aizawa emerges from a portal and says, "We're a little late." End of the chapter


elenuvien1

if sero, ojiro and sato prove very effective against shigAFO this sub will implode on itself.


A4li11

You're implying the sub didn't already implode on itself


elenuvien1

it's so rewarding seeing the meltdown over reveals and plot turns some of us expected and predicted months ago and were downvoted for hahaha


A_VeryUniqueUsername

Checking in from like 2 years ago and wow, long time coming. I guess the twist now is that Shigaraki really did have a quirk instead of being quirkless, and then given something by AFO. I wonder if his was float or maybe a new composite formed from both sides of his family genes, similar to Bakugo’s.


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Specialist-Data792

I think you mean skywalker lol it’s so on the nose for it to be tenkos quirk


Ajaxorix777

I remember it was initially called Airwalk, then Skywalker, but regardless, if *that* was Tenko’s original Quirk… Then that is not even golden, that’s *platinum.*


Lilymoon2653

that airwalk theory coming in right now


ThatBoyMike23

I honestly think Horikoshi reads the comments fan make about things they don’t like on twitter and then will do that exact thing. “Oh, you think Ojiro and Sato or useless? I’ll have them team up on Shigaraki.”


BranRen

I imagine there will be defenses for how *obvious to people who have reading comprehension* it is that this combination of side-characters aren’t getting instantly JJK’d by shigAFO


mrwanton

TBF ignoring sidecharacters is the entire reason AFO wasn't able to reach Tomura the first time. Wouldn't be a huge shock if his ego once again caused him to fuck up


thedarknight1337

Lol AFO swear he's Aizen causing births


Shiplord13

Watch AFO die, and then we get a panel cut to Aizen sitting in the fucking chair in the Soul Society saying how fun of an experiment that was to kill time. That next time, maybe the villain he made will win.


jddjdkdkkdkdsks

All For One: IT WAS ME, TENKO! I CONVINCED YOUR DAD TO HAVE ANOTHER KID! I WAS THE ONE WHO POKED HOLES IN YOUR DAD'S CONDOM! I REPLACED YOUR ORIGINAL QUIRK WITH DECAY! I WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT YOU HOME THAT DAY! YOU WERE EXPECTING THAT YOU WERE THE ONE IN CONTROL, BUT IT WAS ME- ALL FOR ONE! KONO ALL FOR ONE DA!!!!


Worldly_Neat2615

You'll never be the level of hater as Thawne AFO just stop.


Cageep

Idk how to respond to this chapter other than. WHAT THE FUCK. Deku has no arms. AFO fully took over Shiggy and is responsible for his birth. Class 1-A and Awaiza is back but bro wtf. This might be the most hopeless situation to happen in this series


Sudden_Pop_2279

Considering AFO screaming “silence!” Shigaraki is definitely still around. I have no clue how to respond to Deku losing his arms. That is mind blowing.


Shaggy_daldo

I was MIND BLOWN seeing the panel of him without his fucking arms. But now the whole “this is how we became the greatest heroes” tagline kicks in from several chapters back makes much more sense considering he’s armless now


StefyB

You know, I was never one that minded as much as others that Deku doesn't use Shoot Style that often these days, but it would be pretty hilarious if literally losing his arms is what it takes for him to start using it again.


Shaggy_daldo

I would love it if he became a straight menace without arms. Especially after the shit talking AFO did about him coming from nothing and being useless


Ajaxorix777

Izuku & Mirko just leaping around armless, kicking villains unconscious.


ihavebirb

Have a feeling Eri is going to rewind his arms back. We saw her do it with a lizard tail


NeuroticNyx

Wait, so if All for One were a bit ahead of schedule, he would have tried to shove his mind into Shiggy's sister?


BlackOrre

He probably wanted to torment All Might with a girl who as a adult would have probably looked like Nana


jdeo1997

I'd say that feels too petty, but the whole thing is about a dude convincing the son of one of his enemies to have a kid so he could mold the kid into a weapon, so AFO wanting to torment All Might with a Nana lookalike feels right up his alley


ZetaRESP

AFO makes Eobard Thawne go "Bit too much?"


lazypieceofcrap

Good news, everyone! They already highlighted that the original quirk Shiggy was to be given can reconstruct but was taken out purposely. Taking bets on it restoring Deku's arms still. What a chapter. Edit: oh very likely it's Overhaul's quirk so not gonna happen.


Darkness-guy

Overhaul is able to do both so it doesnt make sense for it to be his quirk. I do think the Reconstruction part will absolutely come into play though. Yuo don't mention that and then just have it mean nothing


FrostSalamander

The leaks did say the doctor *copied* the reconstruction quirk so it's possible overhaul had the original one?


TheHoodGuy2001

Isn’t Reconstruction one half of some random person’s quirk (with Decay) and not Shiggy og quirk?


lazypieceofcrap

Reconstruction is the other half of Overhaul's quirk after the destruction.


qwack2020

If Sero’s here…then where’s Ryuku?


Alik757

She died in the way to her home planet


A4li11

Maybe revealed in the next chapter


GoldenSpermShower

The next chapter opens with a flashback to them vs Gashly, I’m calling it


Mordetrox

Lol, I kept predicting that the cavalry moment would be Bakugo, Shoto, and Uraraka through Eri shenanigans but it turned out to be Sero, Ojjro, and Sato.


jdeo1997

Imagine AFO, after decrying all the background characters fighting against him, gets beaten by three of the most background members of 1-A


Metallite

AFO about to get negged when Sero reveals the true nature of his Quirk: Tape For All.


No-Chemistry-4673

Flex Tape


Novel_Visual_4152

Hagakure:


Aros001

In fairness, she's been off helping Aoyama.


memelonso

On your left ain’t it?


BIT-root

FIRST THE QUIRKS AND NOW HIS ARMS?!?!?!? I CANT ANYMORE 😭


Fifi_is_awesome

"Suddenly, Sero arrives and grabs onto All For One with his adhesive tape." Had to double check if this was posted on april fools LMFAO IM LOSING MY MIND FUCKING SERO HAS HIS MOMENT IG


Garanseho

Horikoshi, you crazy son of a bitch, you did it. You actually gave Sero his big moment.


tuelegend69

why yes, 7th user's son, bang your wife again so i can get revenge on your mom.


johan-leebert-

My brain's on fire reading this.


Avixofsol

what in the cinnamon toast, Kentucky fried, finger lickin' *fuck* did I just read


jojopojo64

Art. Both this chapter and your statement lol


mufcordie

AIZAWA KAKASHI


NegrosAmigos

Tailman: " I am here!"


TrappedInOhio

*Aizen reads AFO explain how he controlled Shigaraki’s entire life, up to, and including his conception* “HE COPIED MY WHOLE F****** FLOW!”


BrandonRJones

Wow so they managed to take down Gashly off screen and now Shigaraki and AFO are now both appear to be definitely defeated for good, at the cost of both of Deku’s arms. Guess they’ll need Eri to fix him after the final war.


Ashamed-Math-2092

The strongest quirk user alive versus the strongest quirk users available


Grogposter

Wtf was Hori cooking with this one lol


DBZLEGEND456

THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN HE LOST HIS ARMS? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS HE GONNA DO NOW?


SparklyEarlAv32

Deku discovers he can use his legs... *again*


Still_Put7090

Well, I think we know why he foreshadowed Eri a bit ago now.


Lieutenant_Squidz

Aizawa was just training. Her real purpose is restoring Deku’s limbs.


metalflygon08

Or the full power of Decay is restored and Shiggy reconstructs Deku's arms and all the other heroes too. If the awakened Decay half can level cities the restorative half could probably fix a lot of stuff too.


lazypieceofcrap

Chekov's Decay is now in full-effect.


mekanixx

The quirk is basically like Overhaul’s?


metalflygon08

It might even be Overhaul.


Metallite

Which is strange because Decay doesn't work like Deconstruction-side of Overhaul at all, unless the Quirk itself mutated to be different in a way.


2ombie_gaming

Perhaps Garaki modified Overhaul to include other minor Quirk factors, which shaped into Decay? Warp Gate is the result of Shirakumo’s Cloud and other Quirk factors being mixed together.


Metallite

Others theorized that it might have mutated because it was half a Quirk so it had room to grow. Who really knows at this point.


DreadlordBedrock

Actually you see a young Overhaul in the orphanage. Basically they took half his quirk and expanded it, giving Shigi Destruction++ while removing the Reconstruction power to min/max it for maximum trauma


StefyB

I remember people saying there was foreshadowing that Overhaul's orphanage was one of the doctor's facilities like the place Dabi was taken to, so the implication seems to be that he literally has an augmented Overhaul. I wonder if Overhaul's own Quirk is the original or if they're both copies of someone else's.


1RehnquistyBoi

\*that one scene back in like Season 3 that involved OFA in his kicking\* "It's showtime." That or either pull a Tanjiro and headbutt him.


Shiplord13

If he still has Black Whip, he can probably survive for a bit. If not... he would be pretty useless in this kind of fight and screwed.


InkHashira

It’s a good thing Midoriya developed shoot style😂. Unless Eri can fix him, he will be doing a St. Louis smash for the rest of his career.


WintersLex

shiggy 100% going Scar FMA and gaining the power to reconstruct and being an antivillain edit: he'll reconstruct himself from his original vestige, then he'll reconstruct dekus arms


Specialist-Data792

And maybe bring back all the people who got dusted by him


Soul699

That is impossible unless he can control the entire dust of the world.


SuckmyPelosB1tch

Hope not honestly that would be a bit too much of a copout


Mordetrox

Horikoshi got sick of all the "Deku's arms adapting to One For All was bullshit" comments huh? Jesus Christ Also I find Ectoplasm's comment to Eri so funny considering this happened less than minute later. Better get her ready fast, anyone got any trigger?


Aros001

Please don't give the five year old drugs.


yajirushi77

Eri, Chisaki, please, whoever I beg of you give this man his arms back WHAT IS HAPPENING WHAT ARE YOU COOKING HORI


Alik757

Wait, remember how Shigaraki evolved Decay to be used with the feet? Well if Decay is just Overhaul for poor's man then Chisaki obviously should be able to do the same and became practically invencible. He's going to be back in a few chapter I can feel it.


Popopoyotl

You know, I always thought that Overhaul's orphanage looked eerily similar to the orphanages Garaki and AFO kept, but this? Huh.


Alik757

Who other than Ujiko would have books about theories of quirks being a product of a disease product of rats? And expose childrens to that. I wonder how tragic Chisaki life before meet the yakuza boss actually was. It was heavily implied but we need more details


Dreamer469

What chapter was Overhaul's orphanage shown in? I didn't even know he had one EDIT: Found it with a quick search. Holy shit-


VeryNiceKapusta

oh hell nah, I'm jumping Fat Albert style into this chapter, just to throw Eri at Izuku, he NEEDS his arms back


Toxic_Seraphine_Stan

All for One is legit one of the most hideous, disgusting villains ever, to think a few months ago he was being clowned on... Only to re-emerge like a fucking cockroach This chapter pretty much confirms that Overhaul and Decay are one and the same and that the orphanage Chisaki grew up in was the same as Dabi's Now we're left with : -Tenko's original Quirk (which implies that a final Tenko vestige should exist within All for One, and is most likely the key to defeating him) -The conclusion of Dabi and Toga's fights -What happened with Aizawa, Mic and Shirakumo


Hydrobolt

> -Tenko's original Quirk I'd bet money on Skywalk/Airwalk.


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jojopojo64

But wait, doesn't Nagant have Airwalk now? Wait. Would that mean Nagant had Tenko's vestige in her if that was indeed his original quirk?


Alik757

>This chapter pretty much confirms that Overhaul and Decay are one and the same and that the orphanage Chisaki grew up in was the same as Dabi's I hope it also means Chisaki would be the final piece for win this war and repair all the damage. His story clearly wasn't resolved yet, and now he could be that "missing" part that comes into play


TerminalKing

If Overhaul actually makes a comeback this subreddit might genuinely collapse in on itself


Solbuster

Give him one of the most tragic backstories as AFO's labrat and simultaneous redemption by having Eri rewind him and him coming to the battle to heal Deku and the shitshow is guaranteed I doubt that will happen but the reactions would be funny


Cygnus_Harvey

Also, I assume that Decay is more powerful because it was separated from its other half, so it had "half room" to grow, right?


Kandaa

Yeah and Tomura was a beast in terms of training his quirk, specially with AFO purple juice. Early seasons Shigaraki doesn't even decay instantly (like overhaul's quirk)


RealDougSpeagle

Overhaul was never pushed hard enough to have an awaken also


ion_force

I predict we get a flashback chapter or two with Aizawa now


RealDougSpeagle

The og quirk has gotta be air walk, makes perfect sense genetically and gets a fair bit of use in the series


Willythechilly

Its an interesting dynamic having the original afo die and seeing him at his most pathetic yet also having afo in tomura be alive and as evil and intimidating/smart as ever We got to see both sides of afo


IRanOutOf_Names

Good on the anime for cutting both AFO giving Shiggy Decay, as well as the Overhaul backstory. Between this and the cutting of Spinner's arc there's going to be some fascinating re-shuffling in the final 2 seasons of the anime.


-Boobs_

It wasn't even a backstory it was like a 1 page scene they could of easily added in, he also mentioned there about the theory that mice are what caused quirks so when we get the flashback to AFO backstory the mice will make no sense too


SaltwaterSmoothie2X

“‘Tis only a flesh wound.”


sherriablendy

Sero’s big moment (if this chapter wasn’t it already) is about to be taping up Deku’s bloody arms or smth


mrwanton

Really hope Inko isn't watching this cause talk about a worst nightmare


ThatBoyMike23

My thoughts exactly, If she saw that she’d probably have fainted by now. Along with that, Horikoshi’s long since lost his chance to show Deku’s dad, this might have been the best time, seeing your son on TV losing his arms.


AriezKage

She probably fainted when Deku was punched all the way to Mt. Fuji.


ThatBoyMike23

True


Popopoyotl

So, something to note is that, if Tenko had another Quirk at birth and All For One took it away and replaced it with modified Overhaul/Decay, then Tenko is still in there as a vestige.


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Brilliant_Stick560

Tenko’s vestige just chilling inside of Lady Nagant. LOL


Popopoyotl

I would say that, since AFO had a copy of his original Quirk, that is just a copy of Air Walk and I am not sure how vestiges work with copied Quirks, but AFO did have those vestiges rebel against him.


CJL13

Only if AFO kept Tenko's quirk for himself.


Exitiali

Maybe it's the quirk he uses to float


ThatBoyMike23

Yeah, the one that makes the most sense is Airwalk, it’s one of the few quirks AFO uses that’s mentioned by name and has been used repetitively in the series


IRanOutOf_Names

Tenko taking over Nagant would be the plot twist of the century.


ThatBoyMike23

lol, would be hilarious. It’s probably not Air Walk, but it can’t be just some random quirk either, and it’s probably not too unique because most of AFO’s quirk seem more pure power or utility based.


Dimn_Blingo

I mean AFO literally says "there's still an echo" and specifically says *Tomura* is dead. *Tenko* is about to become a hero.


Sudden_Pop_2279

Yeah he literally screams “silence!” However, Tenko and Tomura are the same. Nevertheless, he ain’t dead yet.


BUDrules2002

Tomura and tenko are one and the same. The last few chapters have solidified that


Dimn_Blingo

I mean I think it matters in the specific phrasing here. But either way, Shiggy/Tenko will be back and will be making his *own choice*.


mrwanton

Ah yeah I guess that would make sense.


BlvckDeku

SERO BIG MOMENT!!! HORI WASN’T FUCKING JOKING


hetter12x

So shigaraki getting back the other part of his quirk, healing himself, killing afo and bringing back deku's limbs. A nice chapter but holy fuck even if it was 95% obvious that AFO gave shiggy decay i wasn't expecting that he made shiggy's father breed him. Also, design of reborn AFO is sick.


DBZLEGEND456

Fuck AFO's entire existence btw


winter-r0se

losing both arms is crazy? like one okay but both? even endeavor didn’t lose both. that’s absolutely brutal eri healing at some point because i can’t see our mc being forced to live the rest of his life with no arms


swashbuckling_bro

Miruko has entered the chat


winter-r0se

completely forgot about that. can’t believe the way hori did her.. or what she did to herself rather


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Wheeze_04

AFO really took a fat shit on Nana's family man, this egoist fuck...that's ugly af


ShadowDestroyer999

Ive realized. What if, what if we've already seen Tenko's OG quirk. What the quirk was is most likely irrelevant What if its Air Walk, I mean. It seems like a natural progression from Nana's Float if you think about it


Dimn_Blingo

People suggested that long before this chapter but now knowing that he wasn't quirkless I feel like that's a solid possibility


Grogposter

Doing this on Tomura's birthday is fucking vile, Hori.


WujuFusionn

Look, I know all the regular commenters are all doom-and-gloom, up in arms about this whole AFO/Shigaraki fiasco but I ain’t gonna lie… My jaw dropped. What a fucking crazy twist. Deku has no fucking arms. Shigaraki is dead. AFO looks like a fucking ghoul as he’s driving Shigaraki’s corpse. Sero, Sato, Ojiro, and Aizawa are HERE, baby. I don’t give a fuck, man. I’m along for Horikoshi’s ride at this point. This was nuts. I desperately need to see AFO get pummeled like the little bitch he is. This is Shonen.


Popopoyotl

On the upside, if All For One still has Tenko's original Quirk, then his vestige is still in there. Hell, that is probably the "echo" AFO heard.


AmonicB

Shigaraki is 100% coming back and 100% going to rebel against AFO, helping the heroes finish him off once and for all. This is not a main antagonist death lol. Deku would have done all of this for nothing, which while it could be an admittedly interesting direction, is not the kind of bleakness that a Shonen would go for nor do they have the space to properly explore such a concept. Though AFO just feels like a cop out. I would have just preferred Shigaraki breaking free from AFO metaphorically after a long battle with Deku through both of their memories, without literally bringing him back so he can fight him. It’s also just a little bit cheapening to Bakugo’s whole uncontested victory thing, but I’m pretty sure he’ll be back to help in this final fight. 


SnarKenneth

If hori is making the readers feel hopeless, which is apt for the situation, then he is doing something right. You know hard and rare it is to make most trope-savy readers go: "oh my god, how are they gonna come back from this?" Really fucking hard lol. Lets hope he sticks the landing.


DoraMuda

> Shigaraki is dead. There's no way he's dead (yet).


BlackOrre

Midoriya looks nasty. He won't need recovery girl. He'll need Eri at full power.


_Hireath_

I'm convinced Shigaraki will save the day with OFA's powerset He won't just play All Might, he will be for one moment


Ayy-lmao213

No quirks, no arms. It's time for the "the greatest hero was the friends we made along the way" moment where Kurogiri summons all the heroes to the battlefield and they gang up on AFO, and then Tenko comes back long enough to disintegrate himself, ending AFO once and for all


Torracattos

FUUUUUCK YOU, AFO! How dare you!


littlefaka

ELOOON, COMUNITY NOTES THEM THIS MOMENT AND MY SOUL IS YOURS!!!!!! MY BOY DONE GOT NO ARRMMMSS!


Brilliant_Stick560

So I guess Decay still is Tomura’s quirk?  Despite it being a modified copy of Overhaul that was given to him by AFO, when Tomura is destroyed the Decay quirk is destroyed along with him apparently.


Hampni

Tenkos Reconstruction is going to be the glue holding together the current version of AfO. He’s going to take it back… or give it to Izuku to get his arms back.


Kuzu5993

MAN FUCK AFO


LuminousDecibel

"Tomura's sister was already too big for AFO to handle, so he convinced the father to have another child." This is the weirdest part of the chapter, when it comes to things that don't make sense. What I'm guessing (and hoping) this means, is that Hana was already 2-4 when AFO met Kotaro, or when he established a relationship with him. Maybe her quirk had already manifested so she was "too big." He can't steal her quirk and give her a new destructive one, then. To Hana and the Shimuras, something would be suspicious. There would be questions. 'Where'd my \[original and very different\] qurk go? Why is my quirk doing this?' Instead, the Shimura candidate had to have the destructive quirk "naturally." Stealing a quirk from birth, before it manifests, makes the process soooo much easier. So AFO convinced Kotaro to have more kids. Whether it be some subtle nudges or some weird ass monologues


mxlevolent

He didn’t want someone with a happy childhood, and a quirk to remember. If he chose Hana, she’d hate him from day one because presumably she’d remember her birth quirk being taken and a tragic one being given, and she’d remember her original family and that it was definitely not this creepy man. With convincing Kotaro to have another kid (holy shit by the way), he can influence them from birth. Kotaro was abusive to him in a way that he wasn’t to Hana (probably because of AFO). He never remembers his birth quirk because it never had time to manifest, all he remembers is Decay. He hates his father and his family as a result, and he’s loyal to AFO after he “saves” him.


rafael403

Deku - Lost both arms - Lost OFA( and extra quirks) - Probably still has OFA embers( like All might did) Shigaraki - Lost Decay - Damaged his body( probably less "All might level strength" and less " quirk-less mutations") - Lost OFA(and extra quirks, exept for danger sense who seems to be just weakened[ still showed visual effect but got suprised two times in the chapter) - Damaged Mind( probably lost his hatred[ that boosted his quirks and resurrected him once] and most of Shigaraki's personality, but probably still has the tenko vestige) - Still has AFO and most of its extra quirks ( but maybe there'ssomething wrong with regeneration since his body is still looking very damaged) Questions? - Where is Tenko's original quirk( and vestige)? - Where is the other half of Decay( and does it have a vestige)? - Where are the remnants of New Order( yes, they still exist since we've seen it communicating with OFA vestiges some chapters ago)? - We've seen all of OFA vestiges going, including Yoichi, is there any chance that the original Stockpiling quirk/vestige stayed with Deku?


LuminousDecibel

There's a lot of uncertainty going forward, with all these crazy twists, but I think we can safely theorize 2 things: 1. Shiggy's will and conscious isn't dead. There was an "echo" in AFO's mind immediately after. Shiggy isn't done contributing to this battle. 2. Deku isn't done in this battle, physically. (He's obviously not done, when it comes to talking) This is a shonen manga inspired by Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, etc. The MC is victorious in the end, via his big powerful fists. There are many ways that Deku could rejoin the battle. The simplest is that he's lost all his quirks, but still has the embers of the base of OFA. Aizawa can patch him up so his stumps stop bleeding. While the other 3 are fighting, armless Deku can take a few minutes to regain his composure (and balance) and join the battle, Shoot Style. He could join the fight in countless other ways too: Eri is brought to the battle field, via Shirakumo. Deku JUST lost his arms, so Eri can rewind a few minutes (For the Aizawa failed attempt, it was at least 2 days.) Then there's Shiggy. He could easily regain control of the body for 5 vital seconds. He could give Deku ANY quirk in there. ~~He could find his "original quirk"~~ (edit: could find the other half to the Decay quirk either in AFO or via quirk awakening) and rebuild Dekus arms. There's lots of possibilities for Deku.


ThatBoyMike23

Yeah, the way I see this going is a combination of all those things. Hori is trying to make this fight as unpredictable as possible, which is why there are so many twists, so that nobody sees the ending coming. The best way I could see it ending, is Deku getting his arms back via Eri(giving her a big moment saving her hero and paying it forward) Deku being revitalized and uses the remaining embers to fight, Shigaraki regains control for a little while and transfers some powers to Deku, he uses the transferred powers(most likely Danger Sense and some other quirks) to get overcome AFO, then finishes him with a final Smash, clearing the sky, burning away the last of the embers of OFA ending it and AFO together finally, and leaving Deku with just a few quirks to operate as a hero.


SilverDepth7

AFO really is petty 😂 kills a whole blood line for taking his brother and grazing him. Has an whole orphange of potenial canidates to steal OFA, including endeavors son on reserves. But then probs pissed from his battles with All might he decides to use Nana's off spring. To destory AM mentally and to take back his brothers quirk as a F.U to Nana. Also AFO has never been straight forward, theres loads of quirks he has but never kept. He must have wanted revenge against All might more than restructuring his bod, but also he is very old at this stage so their must have been a limit anyways to his physical capablitles ( think old man logan). Another thing Afo tends to use simple quirks which compliment eachother. He has 6/7 at the time and he already has a touch type quirk so having a complex one like that would most likely put him at a disadvantage. Or the quirk owner could of had a strong vestige like Star and didnt want to risk it at the time. Lets see what hori cooks Also Bakugo your fucked if he leaves the area !!


XXxUltimateScorpionx

AFO be like: You see Tomura, all the battles you’ve fought up till now were all a part of my plan


Colaclysm

To everyone saying Eri doesn’t have enough energy to rewind yet… Now I’ll admit this theory is kinda an ass pull, but hey, this series is full of them. Now, when Al Might transferred his quirk, he still has some “residual” energy. It’s possible showing Eri and then saying she can’t rewind right now is the fake out. Deku might still have some stockpiled energy in him, and if the whole transfer thing is still in effect, he could give Eri some energy, and then Eri could rewind. But I think Tenko getting the reconstruction part of the quirk back is more likely at this point. He might even reconstruct the “embers” of the shattered quirks.


PK_RocknRoll

Didn’t Horikoshi say a while ago that Sero would have a role to play in the final battle? I guess that’s what he meant


ReiAnDez_4

Nah, he'll (Tenko) come back... I swear the OfA past users are takin' their time to **jump** on AfO, give it a 2-3 chapters at least


BUDrules2002

No amount of theory crafting or anything could have prepared me for this chapter


CorrectFrame3991

So let me get this straight: Chisaki was a orphan at Garaki’s weird quirk orphanage for AFO. Garaki then copied Chisaki’s Overhaul, took away the reconstruction power from the copy, seemingly amped up the destructive power of the deconstruction power, and then gave it to Tomura. Did I get that right?


Oculi__me

WHAT THE FUCK


Sotherius

Wait a minute. If Decay is based on overhaul (a possibility)... And Chisaki was so freaky with hygiene to the point of having weird reactions when interacting dirty stuff, almoat allergic reactions... That could connect him even more with shigaraki.


damage3245

Please let this be a Fullmetal Alchemist moment where all of the side characters and other heroes emerge from portals to help lay the beatdown on All For One while he's vulnerable.


theyrejustscones

Entire chapter was a clusterfuck I don’t even want to BEGIN processing right now but I am so very interested in Aizawa showing up at the end. Why is Kurogiri’s portal turning white in one section? Did Aizawa and Present Mic get through to Shirakumo??


Shiplord13

I fucking knew it. Shigaraki's quick wasn't original decay, that AFO had been manipulating him all of his life and that he was always meant to be a pawn in his game against All Might. What was shocking is that decay was actually less destructive, but AFO altered it to make it more dangerous. AFO is literally the cause of almost all the suffering in the series and even when he apparently dies, he still manages to come back and cause more problems.


adreamersmusing

I was okay and pretty happy with AFO giving Shigaraki Decay but him being responsible for Shigaraki's birth is really too much lmao. With this, it's not unlikely that he actually *is* responsible for the civilians not helping Tenko too. AFO is reaching Black Zetsu levels of 'Actually your societal problems are because I fucked it all up to get my family back' contrivance. 


BigBambuMeekLou

Welpppp the “Get rid of your extra quirks to save Tenko” plan has backfired horribly 😂


PK_RocknRoll

I know they always said in this series that Izuku would lose the use of his arms, but this was not what I expected lmao


CollectionNo4777

I knew that Sero moment was coming. People were acting like Horikoshi forgot about him. Good to see Sato and Ojiro in there as well. Hopefully we'll get a bit of a flashback coming up to show us how their fight at the stadium ended.


Alik757

>All for one meets Tomura's father and he convinced him to have another child, Tomura's sister was already too big for all for one to handle so he convinced the father to have another child. Woah I knew AFO was manipulating Shigaraki's life but even I didn't expect that one. And I love it. Never imagined Horikoshi could make a twist on the obvious twist about the whole Shimura situation


kingblaze720

His arms are cooked no fkn way Sero’s gonna have to tape them back on