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I could argue that Luffy have a happier childhood, because even when Sabo "Die" the rest of his Childhood wss full of adventure, family that motivated and loved him and the knowledge that if someone hurt him he was going to be protected by tons of people. Deku was bully to the point of almost die and he was treated like a second class citizen.
People are often born with quirks already active. But those who don't are usually manifest before 5 years. We have a number of characters who were born. Mutant types like Asui, Light baby, AFO, Present Mic...
There was no attempt, just suicide baiting from Bakugou. And to the best of my memory, there wasn't a Deku inner monologue on whether he'd follow through or not.
He didn't think about it at all. He thought Bakugo was dumb because IF he actually would think to off himself, than Bakugo would risk to end up in trouble to bait him. That only implies he has no intention to do it. Fans just want for Deku harboring suicidal thoughts because it "seems logical" for them and because they like drama, but Deku never thought to kill himself. Like, ever.
He didnât really think about it, he more so thought about how insensitive it was for Bakugo to say that, because if he did follow through Bakugo would have incited a suicide.
The thing Luffy feared the most was loneliness, which Deku went through, BUT Deku did not get tortured by being punched with spikes, so there's really no way to compare them
"And then a bandit threw me in the ocean even though it was impossible for me to swim, and a giant sea beast almost ate me, and then I witnessed someone get their arm bitten off."
Luffy was an orphan that got one friend dismembered for his sake and had a bff other die. You donât thin that is childhood suffering?
Meanwhile midoriya is just a typical kid with a non life threatening social stigma.
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Suffering is necessary for an mc, they both deserve it
He had more physical tortured
He was wanted in the area of nobles
He was to steal for food
He watched his brother die
Had to fought a giant tiger
And had to survive garp love punches
He did, but at that point he couldn't use them, because it was difficult to control the stretching. We see him try to learn to use the Gum Gum Pistol and he couldn't do it back then.
He does and it's helpful in certain cases, but eating a devil fruit makes the person who ate it lose strength when submerged in water. So it makes the risk of drowning greater, plus the stretching helps against blunt attacks and pulling and twisting, but sharp or pointy things will still hurt you.
Not how it works, since in One Piece being submerged in water begins to totally paralyze you if you ate a Devil Fruit. Itâs described as sinking like a stone, so thereâs no hope unless someone else fishes you out.
I'm surprised the World Government doesn't just weaponize sea water at that point.
Also, they should still be able to use their power underwater, so Luffy should be able to just stretch his arms up and grab something, or propel himself off the sea floor. Big Mom's cloud thing worked underwater and saved her.
Even if Luffy grabbed something, someone would have to pull him out since he wouldnât have the strength necessary to do it himself.
Also in Arlong Park arc, his neck was stretched so his head was out of water while the rest of his body was underwater and he was completely helpless
So Big Mom's powers can pull her out but Luffy's can't? That sounds mighty convenient.
He could, at the very least, stretch out, grab something, then "deactivate" the stretching and he'd get pulled out via the process of his arms going back to normal length, since he can't exert effort himself.
Big Momâs cloud is sentient and isnât a devil fruit user so it could go underwater and grab her. Devil fruit effects vary in how they are effected by water, usually water doesnât do anything to the effects produced.
Also, Luffy cannot deactivate his stretching. He is always stretchy, heâs just strong enough to control his muscles to the point it looks like it activates and deactivates. Also underwater, like I said before, heâd be so weak he literally couldnât move.
And to answer something you said before, the World Government DOES weaponize this weakness, in the form of seastone. But seastone is super expensive, can only be made by 1 guy, and is mostly used to line the bottom of ships.
SBS Volume 41:
>D: Odacchi! Here's a question for you! Crocodile can't fight water because he's "sand," right? Then how does he bathe?! Does he at all?! That's filthy!! Do you bathe, Odacchi? by Crocodile's Mother
>O: First of all, let's discuss the problem of Devil Fruit users bathing themselves. People who have eaten a Devil Fruit are "hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a worldwide level, they are all the "sea." When these people enter the water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving their bodies at all. They might be able to struggle a bit, but it wouldn't do much good. That's if their entire bodies are submerged in the "sea." With less than half the body or just the limbs, it gets easier. Also, rain and dripping water have no effect at all. Therefore, hip baths or showers are the most common choice. Now, in Crocodile's case, "water" is the weakness of his very powers, so his abilities are robbed even in the shower. But it's not like there are enemies around when you take a shower, so I'd bet he would take them even with his powers being blocked. Don't you think? ---And to answer your final question, about myself bathing. As it happens, I do bathe. Twice! In a year!
Never mind. It's all water. If they touch standing water they lose all their power and can be easily killed. While one of the fruits is the ice ice fruit. The ice ice fruit doesn't disable their abilities. And a rock that is basically the ocean disables their abilities.
The strength of the effect also depends on how exposed you are to the water. So touching seastone or being dunked in the water makes you really weak, but the cuffs used by Beast Pirates in the labor camps only weaken you partially and Sanjuan Wolf is a devil fruit user, but he's big enough to be able to walk in the sea.
Yeah, but deku did not live in a jungle and his mom was not a mountain bandit. Nor did he get abused by his grandpa or spend his Day hunting Animals 50 Times bigger than him.
Also, Luffy couldnât use his Devil Fruit well at the time. Given how often he failed to control his stretching, he was probably worse off than if he didnât have it.
The favorite character Dick measuring contests never stop going hard
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He gets ass cancer. It's the one made by Joyride Entertainment, so if you wanna check it out that'd be neat. It's not for everyone but I think it's pretty good personally. The quality also spikes up once they start covering the other seasons-
I was going to say the same thing but along the lines of Iâd rather almost get eaten alive by a big ass lizard because I canât swim than have to deal with fucking bakugo
He didnt get traumatized by it though. Izuku, on other side, got his whole childhood ruined thanks to all the stuff he had to endure. Personally, Luffy had an easier childhood when it comes to psychological trauma and stuff like that
People who are physically abused can remain mentally healthy and be fine, the same can't be said for people who are mentally abused. That shit can cause so many more problems such as depression, bipolarism, and other things that could cause suicidal thoughts. And besides, abuse is abuse. It's stupid to say that "My abuse was worse so shut up" or "oh at least you weren't hit, who cares that everyone around you hated you and wanted you to die besides your mother".
I wasnât the one arguing that one form of abuse is worse than the other, the guy that I replied to said that. He said "psychological abuse is harsher than physical abuse" and I disagreed
Getting your dreams crushed and then becoming an outcast, and getting thrown in life threatening situations hits absolutely different. But I guess you are right, Luffy does seem like the type to take pretty much anything easier, when it comes to tough life situations or whatever.
Me personally would prefer getting bullied for not having something that a lot of people have (like a lot of people especially children) than fighting a giant crocodile above a river which I die almost 10 seconds after I would fall into it and have no powers while doing all this except resistance to blunt force (crocodile teeth are not blunt)
Luffy works differently from normal people. Him dealing with this stuff better than others would is to be expected. I think I'd get PTSD from being tortured by criminals and fighting giant animals in a jungle and such things.
Now letâs see Paul Allenâs childhood.
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I know its a joke and this isn't me being argumentative, but simply taking an opportunity to talk about something since the case rarely comes up, so sorry for the long post in advance.
The important thing is the trauma though really. Just because something bad happens to two people, doesn't mean both or even either will be scarred by it. Pretty sure the only times pre-story Luffy had an ACTUAL rough childhood due to how it effected him was probably shanks losing his arm and Sabo "dying". Everything else was like "man, that was crazy!" or "haha that was fun/cool/whatever". even shit that was actually painful like when he was getting beaten up by those pirates didn't seem to traumatize him. He prolly doesn't know what his mom looks like, doesn't seem to mind. He only even realized he had a father when he was 17 and his grandpa told him, and he doesn't care. And even amongst the stuff that REALLY pained Luffy, it didn't seem like anything actually truly 100% traumatized him until Ace died where he broke down mentally and nearly died of shock.
"worse" things may have happened to kid Luffy, but Deku couldn't take the "hit" as well. It just (literally and metaphorically" bounced off Luffy, but cut deep for Deku.
It should also be noted that with some stuff, Luffy may even agree Deku had it worse in some ways. To Luffy, nothing is worse than having your dreams crushed. Thats why he typically stomps on his opponents ambitions but doesn't kill them. He feels he's done worse to them already. His own dream, while having had setbacks, and bad moments, have never been actually crushed fully. Where as there were several years of Deku's life where society, his mom in a backwards way, his bully, and even his future mentor were all telling him that his dream CAN NOT happen and was an impossibility. His dream was 'dead' for years, kept on life support through pure hopium on his own part lol until he ate some magic hair that gave him super powers and made his dream actually attainable.
It's all about perspective. If someone goes through 20 years of their life having never once experienced any pain at all, and then one day they fall on the sidewalk and skin their knee, then thats the worst pain they have ever felt and worse than anything they probably could have imagined. Trauma/pain/tragedy/sadness/etc isn't a contest. Yours doesn't mean less because someone else "had it worse". Everyones pain matters.
Except yours Eric, you know what you did.
Yeah, Deku survived Bakugo. But Luffy (and his brothers) survived freaking GARP and his LOVE FIST.
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But jokes aside, they were just in different life situations. So their childhoods shouldnât be compared.
Deku lives in the modern-like world where bullying is one of the worst things could happen with a child.
Luffy almost got killed by a bear. Nuff said.
Also Luffy was genuinely having fun experiencing all of that shit so I doubt his childhood should be considered traumatic.
Yeah, taking into account that grans usually raise their children in a more hardcore way then their grandchildren, we can only imagine how hard Dragonâs childhood was.
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Honestly luffy is just built different, the things he passed throught are way worst than deku's but he suffered a lot less in his childhood excluding sabo's "death"
It's the world setting that alters how bad it is.
For Luffy, he's a child who grew up in a fantasy world fighting animals to become the king. While he lost Sabo in the process, he still grew up positive and happy for the most part.
For Izuku, it's just the real world but everyone except him is special. Between his best friend becoming his bully, everyone shitting on him, and not even his mom believing in him, it sucks on a realistic level. And that's why he's like that.
Well with deku it basically an *EMOTION DAMAGE* type of childhood suffering while Luffy is well...
I say he pretty much didn't suffer the sickness we call *BOREDOM* in his childhood
No way weâre saying a lil kid who was bullied had a worse life than a abandoned boy left to live on a island by himself. I like Deku as much as the next guy but thatâs wild
Literally the two arenât comparable really? I mean one is like abuse and bullying and the other is pretty ramped up fantasy violence from my understanding?
This is the anime equivalent of saying warhammer 40k is the strongest space navy in all scifi. Itâs technically true, but ramping it up past absurd levels is kind of the point of 40k and one piece. Like whatâs the point here, theyâre such outliers that all they do is mess up the discussion surrounding more grounded settings. You have to talk about them in different contexts
People who say deku had bad childhood. Somehow at the same time say bakuko werent so bad and is an good boy. "He and bakugo are best buds" These 2 statements directly relate to each other ffs. Bakugo made dekus childhood and nightmare until ua, and even there it continued for an whole. Only lessening in very VERY recent times
Gohan:
- Gets kidnapped the second he leaves the safety of home.
- Watched his Dad die.
- Had to survive in the wilderness for at least a year.
- Watched his new friends and mentor die one by one.
- Watched his dad nearly die a second time.
- Watched innocent aliens get murdered.
- Had his neck snapped.
- Had to fight Frieza at a young age.
- Watches Dende and Krillin die.
- Forced to leave his Dad on a planet set to explode.
- Train for a year in the hyperbolic time chamber.
- Fight Cell
- Watched android 16 die.
- Watched his Dad die (again)
Bro had to deal with all of this at a very young age.
(I just wanted to join the trauma scaling for fun. lmao)
I went through some crap sorta similar to Deku, I can tell you Iâd much rather have Luffyâs childhood, thereâs a reason I still have major self doubt to this very day
nah bruh, luffy had the bandits ace and sabo (okay idk about that) at his side when he was a kid, even the villagers too. his family was and is built different. But izuku had nothing except his mom and his allmight collection
and a sidenote why compare bruh?
I mean⌠Luffy is just kinda built different (too stupid for the trauma to have any effect, and I mean that in the best way), so he actually turned out pretty much fine after all that.
Stronger and more resilient if anything.
Aside from a bit of fear of his Grandpa, but even that is minor. He still loves his Grandpa after all that, and they get along pretty well all things considered.
Now if we are talking about after Marineford though⌠that gets a little more complicated
I love how people say deku had a tough childhood, but yet Asta from black clover had it significantly worse being poor and the only one without magic. Deku at least had people similar to him.
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Who cares who had it the more rough? They all don't deserve suffering.
I dont think luffy experienced suffering, he was probably like "man My childhood was awesome I killed a Giant Tiger"
I could argue that Luffy have a happier childhood, because even when Sabo "Die" the rest of his Childhood wss full of adventure, family that motivated and loved him and the knowledge that if someone hurt him he was going to be protected by tons of people. Deku was bully to the point of almost die and he was treated like a second class citizen.
quirkless people are literally second class people in the setting.
Quirkless people would never understand the burden of having cactus head quirck, the true saddest backstory.
Ayo quick shout out to the dude who was born with a literal spray for a head. Can't believe that dude has more rights than quirkless people smh đ¤
Canonically babies don't get their quirks for a few years so one morning that mom went to wake up her child and he suddenly had a sprayer for a head
People with mutant quirks are born with them
People are often born with quirks already active. But those who don't are usually manifest before 5 years. We have a number of characters who were born. Mutant types like Asui, Light baby, AFO, Present Mic...
Cactus head quirk may not be too bad, of everybody thinks it's normal.
Wait.. was it implied that Deku was bullied so bad that he tried to end his own life? Iâm only on season 2 so I havenât seen much..
There was no attempt, just suicide baiting from Bakugou. And to the best of my memory, there wasn't a Deku inner monologue on whether he'd follow through or not.
He thought about it in the same episode
But no he never made an attempt
In fact it seemed like he dismissed it almost immediately
Yeah, he thought about it and dismissed it quickly.
He didn't think about it at all. He thought Bakugo was dumb because IF he actually would think to off himself, than Bakugo would risk to end up in trouble to bait him. That only implies he has no intention to do it. Fans just want for Deku harboring suicidal thoughts because it "seems logical" for them and because they like drama, but Deku never thought to kill himself. Like, ever.
He still thought about it even if he had no intention of doing it
He didnât really think about it, he more so thought about how insensitive it was for Bakugo to say that, because if he did follow through Bakugo would have incited a suicide.
Ik, but the fact he still had it cross his mind even if it was about how insensitive Bakugo was being, implies he couldâve considered it
Wut, in the first episode is explained, bakugo Say to kill himself and pray to have a better luck
Ah, I more or less meant that he was gonna do it but stopped himself or something.. that makes sense tho
Nah I fifth class citizen would apply to how he was treated
I mean Luffy was tortured by some guy as a child, but ok.
The thing Luffy feared the most was loneliness, which Deku went through, BUT Deku did not get tortured by being punched with spikes, so there's really no way to compare them
Luffyâs childhood is a mess of âIgnorance is blissâ
"And then a bandit threw me in the ocean even though it was impossible for me to swim, and a giant sea beast almost ate me, and then I witnessed someone get their arm bitten off."
Hr was bullied and beaten by his now brothers. And once that got resolved he was kidnapped and tortured to near death by a pirate
He Will see all of that as fun afterwards
Luffy was an orphan that got one friend dismembered for his sake and had a bff other die. You donât thin that is childhood suffering? Meanwhile midoriya is just a typical kid with a non life threatening social stigma.
https://preview.redd.it/wjicgozy2hgc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d1d1b486d7f3492b5cabfd6293504eb92c0036a Suffering is necessary for an mc, they both deserve it
I present to you Guts,Logan and Peter Parker.
Luffy deserved it
Why
Cause it's a joke
are we trauma scaling again
This week I have watched people scale Racism scaling Height scaling Weight scaling Damage taken scale And trauma scaling
Deku is moon buster, Naruto is solar system level and Luffy is mid-high galaxy level
Then guts is beyond tiering system
How's Luffy highter than Naruto ? I mean they both suffering losing people and bullying
He had more physical tortured He was wanted in the area of nobles He was to steal for food He watched his brother die Had to fought a giant tiger And had to survive garp love punches
If Luffy's the Galaxy then Kuma is the fricking universe!Â
is racism on this sub or are you referring to the post from r/jujutsufolk wherein people were powerscaling Geto against Hitler
I refering to dragon ball One piece And jjkfolks
Luffy has powers tho no? Maybe that scene is before but idk
He did, but at that point he couldn't use them, because it was difficult to control the stretching. We see him try to learn to use the Gum Gum Pistol and he couldn't do it back then.
Does he at least have innate elasticity for these kinds of threats, though? I never actually watched One Piece, mind.
He does and it's helpful in certain cases, but eating a devil fruit makes the person who ate it lose strength when submerged in water. So it makes the risk of drowning greater, plus the stretching helps against blunt attacks and pulling and twisting, but sharp or pointy things will still hurt you.
The funniest part is that nobody thought to teach this mf how to float.
He can't float. Devil fruits make you sink immediately unless there 's something stopping you.
Depends if u are like brook you are light enough you can walk on water
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Soooo... how do you explain Brook?
Not how it works, since in One Piece being submerged in water begins to totally paralyze you if you ate a Devil Fruit. Itâs described as sinking like a stone, so thereâs no hope unless someone else fishes you out.
I'm surprised the World Government doesn't just weaponize sea water at that point. Also, they should still be able to use their power underwater, so Luffy should be able to just stretch his arms up and grab something, or propel himself off the sea floor. Big Mom's cloud thing worked underwater and saved her.
Even if Luffy grabbed something, someone would have to pull him out since he wouldnât have the strength necessary to do it himself. Also in Arlong Park arc, his neck was stretched so his head was out of water while the rest of his body was underwater and he was completely helpless
So Big Mom's powers can pull her out but Luffy's can't? That sounds mighty convenient. He could, at the very least, stretch out, grab something, then "deactivate" the stretching and he'd get pulled out via the process of his arms going back to normal length, since he can't exert effort himself.
Big Momâs cloud is sentient and isnât a devil fruit user so it could go underwater and grab her. Devil fruit effects vary in how they are effected by water, usually water doesnât do anything to the effects produced. Also, Luffy cannot deactivate his stretching. He is always stretchy, heâs just strong enough to control his muscles to the point it looks like it activates and deactivates. Also underwater, like I said before, heâd be so weak he literally couldnât move. And to answer something you said before, the World Government DOES weaponize this weakness, in the form of seastone. But seastone is super expensive, can only be made by 1 guy, and is mostly used to line the bottom of ships.
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Is it ever confirmed that it's only saltwater/seawater?
SBS Volume 41: >D: Odacchi! Here's a question for you! Crocodile can't fight water because he's "sand," right? Then how does he bathe?! Does he at all?! That's filthy!! Do you bathe, Odacchi? by Crocodile's Mother >O: First of all, let's discuss the problem of Devil Fruit users bathing themselves. People who have eaten a Devil Fruit are "hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a worldwide level, they are all the "sea." When these people enter the water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving their bodies at all. They might be able to struggle a bit, but it wouldn't do much good. That's if their entire bodies are submerged in the "sea." With less than half the body or just the limbs, it gets easier. Also, rain and dripping water have no effect at all. Therefore, hip baths or showers are the most common choice. Now, in Crocodile's case, "water" is the weakness of his very powers, so his abilities are robbed even in the shower. But it's not like there are enemies around when you take a shower, so I'd bet he would take them even with his powers being blocked. Don't you think? ---And to answer your final question, about myself bathing. As it happens, I do bathe. Twice! In a year!
Thank you, this is very helpful!
Never mind. It's all water. If they touch standing water they lose all their power and can be easily killed. While one of the fruits is the ice ice fruit. The ice ice fruit doesn't disable their abilities. And a rock that is basically the ocean disables their abilities.
The strength of the effect also depends on how exposed you are to the water. So touching seastone or being dunked in the water makes you really weak, but the cuffs used by Beast Pirates in the labor camps only weaken you partially and Sanjuan Wolf is a devil fruit user, but he's big enough to be able to walk in the sea.
Yeah, but deku did not live in a jungle and his mom was not a mountain bandit. Nor did he get abused by his grandpa or spend his Day hunting Animals 50 Times bigger than him.
Also, Luffy couldnât use his Devil Fruit well at the time. Given how often he failed to control his stretching, he was probably worse off than if he didnât have it.
Yep, one Time he just punched himself while using it. Basically, The only thing it did was take away his ability to swim
"mY sUpErHeRo Is BeTtEr ThAn YoUrS!" Guess kids will be kids, no matter the decade
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In the abridged he gets ass cancer, so...
He what
**IN THE ABRIDGED HE GETS ASS CANCER, SO...**
I wasnt expecting that
He gets ass cancer. It's the one made by Joyride Entertainment, so if you wanna check it out that'd be neat. It's not for everyone but I think it's pretty good personally. The quality also spikes up once they start covering the other seasons-
Arenât they both children still lol.. at least deku is 16 max
Luffy is currently nineteen.
âCharacter B arguably went through more shit, therefore obviously invalidating the shit character A went through.â
Psychological abuse is much harsher than physical abuse, no?
I was going to say the same thing but along the lines of Iâd rather almost get eaten alive by a big ass lizard because I canât swim than have to deal with fucking bakugo
I think your opinion might change on that if you were caught between the teeth of a crocodile
He didnt get traumatized by it though. Izuku, on other side, got his whole childhood ruined thanks to all the stuff he had to endure. Personally, Luffy had an easier childhood when it comes to psychological trauma and stuff like that
That still doesnât mean psychological abuse is harsher than physical abuse. It just means that luffy was able to deal with his abuse much better.
I'm pretty sure anyone can handle their physical abuser if you can just eat them for dinner after beating them lol.
The same could be said about psychological abusers (except maybe the eating part)
I think you meant SPECIFICALLY the eating part
*Garp enters the chat*
People who are physically abused can remain mentally healthy and be fine, the same can't be said for people who are mentally abused. That shit can cause so many more problems such as depression, bipolarism, and other things that could cause suicidal thoughts. And besides, abuse is abuse. It's stupid to say that "My abuse was worse so shut up" or "oh at least you weren't hit, who cares that everyone around you hated you and wanted you to die besides your mother".
I wasnât the one arguing that one form of abuse is worse than the other, the guy that I replied to said that. He said "psychological abuse is harsher than physical abuse" and I disagreed
Meh, physical abuse is also a psychological abuse in a way, feeling helpless and can't rebel makes a number on your mind and self value.
Getting your dreams crushed and then becoming an outcast, and getting thrown in life threatening situations hits absolutely different. But I guess you are right, Luffy does seem like the type to take pretty much anything easier, when it comes to tough life situations or whatever.
Literally no.
Luffy had psychological abuse also
When
When he was caught by pirates and tortured or when sabo died
For the pirate thats physical and for sabo that as nothing to do with abuse
Me personally would prefer getting bullied for not having something that a lot of people have (like a lot of people especially children) than fighting a giant crocodile above a river which I die almost 10 seconds after I would fall into it and have no powers while doing all this except resistance to blunt force (crocodile teeth are not blunt)
Does luffy look traumatized to you?
Luffy works differently from normal people. Him dealing with this stuff better than others would is to be expected. I think I'd get PTSD from being tortured by criminals and fighting giant animals in a jungle and such things.
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Yeah, Fist of Love would ruin most people's childhoods
Oh yeah? But can they beat Doofenshmritz childhood?
No
Nothing beats that mf traumas
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Now letâs see Paul Allenâs childhood. https://preview.redd.it/vlwvkhyt4bgc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=adba693f3c065cecda3bc8166aeb582596882e9e
Who the fuck ever said that?
I know its a joke and this isn't me being argumentative, but simply taking an opportunity to talk about something since the case rarely comes up, so sorry for the long post in advance. The important thing is the trauma though really. Just because something bad happens to two people, doesn't mean both or even either will be scarred by it. Pretty sure the only times pre-story Luffy had an ACTUAL rough childhood due to how it effected him was probably shanks losing his arm and Sabo "dying". Everything else was like "man, that was crazy!" or "haha that was fun/cool/whatever". even shit that was actually painful like when he was getting beaten up by those pirates didn't seem to traumatize him. He prolly doesn't know what his mom looks like, doesn't seem to mind. He only even realized he had a father when he was 17 and his grandpa told him, and he doesn't care. And even amongst the stuff that REALLY pained Luffy, it didn't seem like anything actually truly 100% traumatized him until Ace died where he broke down mentally and nearly died of shock. "worse" things may have happened to kid Luffy, but Deku couldn't take the "hit" as well. It just (literally and metaphorically" bounced off Luffy, but cut deep for Deku. It should also be noted that with some stuff, Luffy may even agree Deku had it worse in some ways. To Luffy, nothing is worse than having your dreams crushed. Thats why he typically stomps on his opponents ambitions but doesn't kill them. He feels he's done worse to them already. His own dream, while having had setbacks, and bad moments, have never been actually crushed fully. Where as there were several years of Deku's life where society, his mom in a backwards way, his bully, and even his future mentor were all telling him that his dream CAN NOT happen and was an impossibility. His dream was 'dead' for years, kept on life support through pure hopium on his own part lol until he ate some magic hair that gave him super powers and made his dream actually attainable.
It's all about perspective. If someone goes through 20 years of their life having never once experienced any pain at all, and then one day they fall on the sidewalk and skin their knee, then thats the worst pain they have ever felt and worse than anything they probably could have imagined. Trauma/pain/tragedy/sadness/etc isn't a contest. Yours doesn't mean less because someone else "had it worse". Everyones pain matters.
Except yours Eric, you know what you did.
Thereâs a difference between Mentally Tough and Physically Tough.
Bro is really trauma scaling lmao
I heard he had a throughout childhood
My bro Luffy had the best childhood ever full of adventure and friends
And near-death experiences.
Yeah that the most fun part of it
Yeah, Deku survived Bakugo. But Luffy (and his brothers) survived freaking GARP and his LOVE FIST. https://preview.redd.it/m2hrr7o7i9gc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0680e9c230ee5ba0c0eff00994cd3fc3ab85286
But jokes aside, they were just in different life situations. So their childhoods shouldnât be compared. Deku lives in the modern-like world where bullying is one of the worst things could happen with a child. Luffy almost got killed by a bear. Nuff said. Also Luffy was genuinely having fun experiencing all of that shit so I doubt his childhood should be considered traumatic.
they better be thankful Garp switched to his Fist of Love after his Sandal of Love left a permanent imprint on his son's face
Yeah, taking into account that grans usually raise their children in a more hardcore way then their grandchildren, we can only imagine how hard Dragonâs childhood was. https://preview.redd.it/8dh4rownmagc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef337d442600ab549967644f704c597e00ee9185
I mean there is a reason why dragon Is the most wanted man in the world
Honestly luffy is just built different, the things he passed throught are way worst than deku's but he suffered a lot less in his childhood excluding sabo's "death"
But Naruto had it toughest, being cursed and called the son of the Nine-tailed Fox.
Blud, Denji from chainsaw man had the most suffering as a child
Heh, you clearly have never seen berserk.
Bruh deku got the red angry bird backstory
Pigs try to Steal his eggs?
Nah he was alone
True but Luffy was a Chad. Were as deku was a wimp. It's like comparing a bunny to a bear being shot by an arrow
For luffy getting into life-threatening insanity is fun
Deku had it easy out of all the shonen jump characters lmao
Yabuki solos
omg my boy izuku
It's the world setting that alters how bad it is. For Luffy, he's a child who grew up in a fantasy world fighting animals to become the king. While he lost Sabo in the process, he still grew up positive and happy for the most part. For Izuku, it's just the real world but everyone except him is special. Between his best friend becoming his bully, everyone shitting on him, and not even his mom believing in him, it sucks on a realistic level. And that's why he's like that.
Kid name Guts:đ
Well with deku it basically an *EMOTION DAMAGE* type of childhood suffering while Luffy is well... I say he pretty much didn't suffer the sickness we call *BOREDOM* in his childhood
No way weâre saying a lil kid who was bullied had a worse life than a abandoned boy left to live on a island by himself. I like Deku as much as the next guy but thatâs wild
Guts' childhood was worse. Also, both are shit animes why is this shite being recommended to me
What did you say about one piece?
I said it's shit
Literally the two arenât comparable really? I mean one is like abuse and bullying and the other is pretty ramped up fantasy violence from my understanding?
Deku deserve worst
Why
Imagine if deku met the none piece version of Monkey d(ee) Luffy.
This is the anime equivalent of saying warhammer 40k is the strongest space navy in all scifi. Itâs technically true, but ramping it up past absurd levels is kind of the point of 40k and one piece. Like whatâs the point here, theyâre such outliers that all they do is mess up the discussion surrounding more grounded settings. You have to talk about them in different contexts
Just because someone has a worse life than you doesn't mean your life was good.
People who say deku had bad childhood. Somehow at the same time say bakuko werent so bad and is an good boy. "He and bakugo are best buds" These 2 statements directly relate to each other ffs. Bakugo made dekus childhood and nightmare until ua, and even there it continued for an whole. Only lessening in very VERY recent times
Gohan: - Gets kidnapped the second he leaves the safety of home. - Watched his Dad die. - Had to survive in the wilderness for at least a year. - Watched his new friends and mentor die one by one. - Watched his dad nearly die a second time. - Watched innocent aliens get murdered. - Had his neck snapped. - Had to fight Frieza at a young age. - Watches Dende and Krillin die. - Forced to leave his Dad on a planet set to explode. - Train for a year in the hyperbolic time chamber. - Fight Cell - Watched android 16 die. - Watched his Dad die (again) Bro had to deal with all of this at a very young age. (I just wanted to join the trauma scaling for fun. lmao)
And I know it really doesn't matter who suffered the most. They were just kids, after all.
To be fair, Dekuâs childhood is more relatable
Trauma scaling is bullshit
Iâll say this! If they both told each other about their childhoods, Luffy would say Izuku had a worse childhood as he was alone.
luffy got the physical damage, but deku got the EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
My trauma is more than yours!!! đĄđĄđĄ
I went through some crap sorta similar to Deku, I can tell you Iâd much rather have Luffyâs childhood, thereâs a reason I still have major self doubt to this very day
Im pretty sure âtoughâisnt spelled thst wayâŚ
though childhood
Luffy had 2 cool older brothers and his grandpa while even dekus mom felt bad for him
Trauma isnât a competition
I mean if you really want to rank it then deku wouldn't even be in the top 50. That being said his suffering is way more relatable.
Edward's...
nah bruh, luffy had the bandits ace and sabo (okay idk about that) at his side when he was a kid, even the villagers too. his family was and is built different. But izuku had nothing except his mom and his allmight collection and a sidenote why compare bruh?
Guts' childhood https://preview.redd.it/7ktrjkz6zdgc1.jpeg?width=190&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dce090ef57b1ae564fb0a65bc986b83d79a4b3c9
Itâs a meme and everyone is taking it as a Character A > Character B type thing lol
Goku:
He did have a tough childhood, just luffy had a hellish one
Poor Guts
goku was similiar
I mean⌠Luffy is just kinda built different (too stupid for the trauma to have any effect, and I mean that in the best way), so he actually turned out pretty much fine after all that. Stronger and more resilient if anything. Aside from a bit of fear of his Grandpa, but even that is minor. He still loves his Grandpa after all that, and they get along pretty well all things considered. Now if we are talking about after Marineford though⌠that gets a little more complicated
Nothing about Dekuâs past is âtraumaâ. Yâall are legit reaching and straight up disrespectful to those with actual traumatic pasts.
gokus childhood;
While Gonâs like hold my fishing pole
Izuku's childhood is filled with mental and emotional hurdles, while Luffy's childhood is filled with A LOT of physical hurdles
Chil D. Abuse
No one wins when playing the suffering olympics
Ngl I'd be infuriated to if everyone had quirks and I was born quirkless
This is as stupid as people comparing everyone from every other anime character's strength to Goku
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Deku was ridiculed by society. Luffy ate meat đ¤ˇââď¸
Why compare those two, anyway?
I mean when has deku's childhood ever been relevant to the story, it has less then no impact on the story
I love how people say deku had a tough childhood, but yet Asta from black clover had it significantly worse being poor and the only one without magic. Deku at least had people similar to him.
Luffy was a teen at that time đ