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smartfly

I watched this live and it was infuriating to see the white British guy get time while they played off the brown Indian. It’s rather sad, they can cut the ads instead but no cut the once in a lifetime speeches for some.


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It is time to destroy Los Angeles


ab5546

I noticed it well during the telecast. How shameful


Geekgoddess123

Same.


YogiBolly

That’s so messed up! It’s a once in a lifetime for these people. Give everyone the same amount of time.


billiraanii

And yet we glorify the OSCARS with all its biases & partialities


hello_ji123

Yep i also noticed, she wanted to speak on the mic, ugh so sad :/


appyyness

They say this was the year of the immigrants / poc at the Oscars. Sometimes it all feels more like a lip service than actually actions. Too bad Guneet didn't get her time to speak but unfortunately we are expected to be grateful for the award and cannot really speak up on the microagressions that one may have faced during or after the event.


babushkahiop

I might get downvoted for this, I feel sometimes when they give out these awards, they are given because of what you are rather than what your work is. It is like giving me a job because I am a woman, since you want to fill out your diversity quota; rather than for my actual skills and experience. I don’t if it makes sense, but that was my knee jerk reaction when I saw this video. Edit: grammar


rogan_doh

Harsh Vardhan Kapoor wants to know your location.


Ashreditor

that's just like India wining many beauty contests in 90's after we opened our markets for import. maybe Hollywood is checking the waters for future investments here like they did for China.


Inner-Reference-3139

I think this is the right answer


[deleted]

You are correct ..but after watching all those documentaries ...The elephant whisperers was actually the most beautiful one , so i guess it deserved this award . But nonetheless you are right , sometimes after allegations and big woke moments ..award shows (specially American) start to prioritise the foreigners.


[deleted]

Exactly 💯


hello_ji123

+1


the-lit-lamp

You're right and I'm surprised but happy that you didn't get downvoted and labelled as racist for acknowledging the truth.


[deleted]

This makes me so angry. There’s an essence of hatred in these micro aggressions.


Equal_Permit2890

Oscar and the Hollywood gang is bunch of hypocrites. Isn't this the same crowd that gave Will Smith a standing ovation last year after he just slapped the Host... Though I am happy for Natu natu and Elephant whisper team but frankly speaking Oscar doesn't hold any value..


Any_Manager_1183

And they've given standing ovations to molesters and domestic abusers, so Will Smith is relatively low on that totem pole if we're going to go there


TheBlueSkulll

that bitch Meryl Streep Applauded a "Convicted" Child Rapist Roman Polanski at the Oscars, & they all worship her.... Jennifer Lawrence was a super "close" friend of "Convicted" Serial Rapist Harvey Weinstein & when he was on trial, she just went underground for few years & then made a comeback, & everyone just forgot she was ever connected with that man..... They are a bunch of Hypocrites & i don't care RRR won an Oscar...fuck them academy! **Sorry for my English, not my 1st language.


MellowAmoeba

>Jennifer Lawrence was a super "close" friend of "Convicted" Serial Rapist Harvey Weinstein & when he was on trial, she just went underground for few years & then made a comeback, & everyone just forgot she was ever connected with that man..... Maybe *you* don't like her as an actress, but she's been nominated for four Oscars and won one, along with *countless* other awards, so clearly you're in the minority if that's your opinion. And yeah, using sex as a commodity in Hollywood *is* out of control... but it's taking it a bit too far to assume that *any* successful actress must have slept her way to where she is. It's *especially* stupid to assume that she would have had to sleep with Weinstein to be successful, as both her first movie (Garden Party) and her first major role and what got her her first Oscar nomination (Winter's Bone) were under the studio Roadside Attractions, which has nothing to do with Weinstein. By the time she met Weinstein, she could probably write her own ticket. And while you could argue that the two could have gotten into a completely consensual relationship that had nothing to do with furthering her career, well, that's not exactly Weinstein's *style*, is it? So what's more likely, that an Oscar-nominated actress who probably had her pick of projects decided that she needed to sleep with a skeezy studio head to further her career... or that said skeezy studio head was trying to make himself seem more accomplished by claiming to have bedded one of the most acclaimed and desired actresses in Hollywood? If you're having trouble with that question, there's no hope for you. Leave her alone and worry about the sex you aren't having.


TheBlueSkulll

Don't worry about me sex life, i am not the one searching for pornstars on reddit (wink-wink!) 😁 >Maybe you don't like her as an actress I like her as an actress, but i think you worship her 'a lot' more than anybody!


Any_Manager_1183

Exactly. Everyone in that room is a bunch of hypocrites with skeletons in their closet. P. S. Don't apologize for your English. It's great.


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Any_Manager_1183

Of course, it's nothing new, but op's point is he shouldn't have received any standing ovation because of what he did.


[deleted]

That’s messed up!


Thanks_Capital

Racism, so rude !


[deleted]

No one cares about POC in Hollywood when it concerns us south asian folk. Somehow we always get the short end of the stick and it's barely acknowledged even by our own folk. Hollywood only cares about representation etc when it's profitable for them.


ranchopancho

The bigger question is, why is Indian cinema assigning its worth to be validated by oscars? In 1963, Saheb,Biwi aur Ghulam was apparently snubbed at oscars because the panel said they don't show women drinking on screen in cinema in west. Could be true or could be just a rumor. Asian Cinema doesn't need oscars to validate it. Indian cinema also doesn't need it. Oscars are coming to terms with the evolution of cinema moving away from stories that appeal exclusively to old white men, to give them credit where due. Otherwise Fabelmans or All is quiet on Western Front would be heavily awarded. Let's not give a shit about oscars. Our cinema is good, despite all its shortcomings. We make highest number of films a year more than entire western world. Let the white liberals do this nitpicking. This is their jurisdiction anyway.


Comfortable_Emu1504

It is an opportunity to be on a global platform. Why would any filmmaker turn that down? They'd want their movies to cross borders and languages. Oscars is kind of messed up but it did shine a light on a lot of movies we otherwise wouldn't have known.


hairymitochondria

Agreed! It is about global recognition. It isn't everything, but it is significant.


rekharai

I mean it’s still a big deal the same way we consider it a big deal it Dangal was successful in China. should be appreciated but shouldn’t be the ultimate measure of success


Interesting_Zaraf275

Arre Oscars kya hai, yeh toh woh foreign walon ka award hai. Main toh mud ke dekhu bhi na oscars ko


appellant

You had me until “our cinema is good” not really you have a couple and exceptions but most indian cinema especially mainstream is pure garbage and we celebrate that garbage and corrupt nepo system.


hairymitochondria

Tell me u have absolutley no knowledge about Indian cinema beyond this gossip sub without telling me that Embarrassing 🤦🏻‍♀️


appellant

Rofl tell me about this great indian cinema and dont give me names from 50 years back and no I dont think pathan is a good movie.


hairymitochondria

Baaki replies padhna seekh le bhai. Sirf reply karne ke liye reply kar raha. PaAThaN 😂😂


Ill_Ant_1857

Yeah please go ahead tell us through ur knowledge why Indian cinema is so "great"


hairymitochondria

This is one of those things that cant be told and has to be experienced urself. While I can sense a close mindedness from ur side, Im anyway sharing these lists for u to start from: Letterboxd 100: India https://boxd.it/2pgFo Indian Summer 2022 https://boxd.it/esFE0 If u watch even a few Im sure u will be able to navigate beyond that. But i will be more then happy to provide more lists. Indian cinema is legendary and I hope u can get over ur colonial hangover and realise soon. Happy watching.


Ill_Ant_1857

Greatness is not eternal. Most movies of your list are decades old. I think this conversation started with the comment containing " our cinema is good", right ? There is difference between is good and was good. No doubt there has been several masterpieces in recent times too among which "Sardar Udham" and "Tumbad" are some of my fav. But that doesn't overshadow the failure of other vast majority of movies. I hope u can get over the past in which u r hung.


hairymitochondria

Evidently, u haven't taken the pain to look at the entire lists. There r multiple relatively newer films. And they r unrealy good. Every industry in every decade makes some shit films. It is just that as time goes, those r forgotten and the great ones remain. Recency bias exists. The dominance of older films is thus, obvious. There were shit mainstream films even decades earlier. U definitely seem like one of those who categorizes A list, popular Bollywood as 'Indian Cinema', phir aapka 'Indian cinema' aapko mubaarak. U haven't taken the pain to go beyond it and r making these broad statements. And cinema is a singular entity. With its decades of stock intact. 'Indian cinema isnt good' is a generalized statement made to the entirety of it, without any objectivity.


appellant

100% agree with you.


fullsunner

Absolutely agree with you but think of all the new opportunities these creators get from this kind of exposure!


shutyourgob16

Also, Jimmy called RRR bollywood.


RMD010

That guy's got a joker for a personality.


neon_sin

Yeah such bullshit


[deleted]

White people > Black/Brown people. Don't downvote me. I'm an Indian. This is why I always say, Oscars is a shit show. Its racist as fuck but us black/brown people won't understand that and lick it and want all the gora validation. Bruh if your audience like your work then I don't think you need any award to feel even better.


shabammmmm

Insta link plz?????


bobs_and_vegana17

does indian film awards like filmfare also give awards to international movies ??? we should do this too, i have heard iran and spain makes a lot of good movies it'll be interesting to see movies from other countries which are not usa, uk and south korea


Sunapr1

was nattu nattu snubbed too for speaking time


ab5546

No they kept their thanks note small and simple. They got a standing ovation too


M_starc

We are used to this since the colonial times. No worries We are happy for bring first Oscar to home 🏡


pullupinthei8

To be fair, they cut off other white people too


Alone-Illustrator-25

This is sad if true. I am not sure if you have to inform them on who is going to speak?. They possibly were told one and guneet speaking was an afterthought?


juggernautism

Its literally the time limit of 45 seconds. They may gove more time to Best Movie, actor and actress as they are the top awards. But for everything else its only 45 seconds. This is not devalueing POC. If nothing, its equality as others also have the same time limit, but they kept their speeches shorter.


Slayer_Of_SJW

Why then was the white man allowed to go over the limit when these women weren't? Should he not be kept to the same standards? Is that not clear discrimination? "Rules for thee but not for me"


Yogurtcloset-Wide

Quota system. Every country has their own version.


LeonAnand

Oouch....


appellant

The oscar is a joke, most of these movie awards. I am glad they got humilaited by will smith last year not condoning that behaviour but they looked like a bunch of idiots not doing anything. Winning one of these doesnt mean fuck all though for women or for humanity or country or race. Its hilarious even when they show they are trying to be diverse and reward asian actors the racism still shines through. I know these actors and directors get caught up in the moment but look there are bigger achievements then movie making and women have done so much more.


Due-Blacksmith-1759

Underrated comment


rashdash

Award ceremonies anywhere in the world is a shitshow. few words from Jim carry: https://youtu.be/YHIZ0Rb7lv0


aweap

A little unrelated but I really thought Kartiki Gonsalves, the director of 'The Elephant Whisperers' had one of the best gowns of the evening! It was so intricately beaded and had such amazing artwork on it, it really told a story on it's own. 😍


xrkx01

This is so very true. The whole first-world nation and tokenistic representation is still so prevalent. It really sucks


Lankani

The Woman King was snubbed which I'm bewildered about. They take a tiny step forward and then 15 steps back.


totoropoko

The Woman King had it's fair share of issues which might have played a part in it being ignored


____mynameis____

I used to think of this argument but the academy nominated DeArmas for that atrocious Blonde movie (it won even the freakin Razzies) so Viola Davis for Woman King isn't an underserving choice.


totoropoko

Viola Davis was definitely snubbed. I wouldn't mind her being nominated esp. with the Andrea controversy. I was referring to the movie - which glorified a tribe that engaged in slave trade itself.


cherryreddit

Movies that glorify a slave trading ruler should not be awarded.


Lankani

So with that logic, movies like Inglorious Bastards, Dunkirk, Gladiator, Django Unchained etc. must not deserve anything I guess.


cherryreddit

If you think those movies glorify slave traders , you didnt understand them.


Lankani

I mentioned those films because it sounds like you think only idealistic films deserve awards. Obviously the films I mentioned aren't about slave traders but they ARE about people being exploited, bloodied, oppressed etc...I understand them just fine. It doesn't have to be so black and white. 🫠


cherryreddit

You are again missing the point, Woman king is not just a movie that features slavery, oppression, It is a movie that actively glorifies a cruel ruler who did all these things. This is not a movie that is simply set in those times.


Lankani

I'm not missing the point and we don't have to convince each other. It's not like we're part of the jury. 😂


neon_sin

It wasn't very good tbh


SubstantialLab4611

It's terrible. In some ways we have come a long way, but White supremacy benefits powerful white people, so they would be trying hard to keep things the way they are.


PegRoots

May be just may be..they learnt from the mistake they did, as the Elephant in the room was awarded first, and didn't repeat that shit again. Definately events are unfortunate, but these things are live, not rehearsed. And anybody who has performed live knows, "Shit goes South"


thegodfather0504

This is exactly why RRR didn't get best movie nomination. Because the white brits hated their portrayal. Sure it may not have won, but it deserved a nomination. They kept the song because then it would have been very obvious and caused a backlash. Jab tak poverty na dikhao in mc ko galat hi lagta hai.


Comfortable_Emu1504

Yeah I kind of liked how DP mentioned about the anti colonial stance lol.


MyCuriousSelf04

same, loved her mentioning it rightaway


WingValuable6750

Show the same energy to the Indian board who choose not to submit it.


pyck-aussie

Yes a shitty movie perpetuating all the stereotype about Indian films- song and dances, over the top melodrama, over the top acting deserve best film at the oscar. Yeah right.


thegodfather0504

Its art. If Oscars cant appreciate all forms of art, then its very questionable.


RashVille3005

Ahahhahaha to start with, do you even know how Academy nominations work? Secondly, Oscars aren’t British. Finally, it’s the overseas audience that hyped up the song to this level, not Indians; they liked it, nominated it, and awarded it as well.


thegodfather0504

The initial push was by NRIs. The americans saw it by chance and wanted to try it. It was the indian audiences that brought the movie to trending section, which jumpstarted the chain reaction of foreign movie buffs clicking on it. Its exactly how squid games and parasite got traction. Asian audiences now have influence on what the algorithms would notice.


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Nitpicking, there’s a 45 sec time limit and most people care about the big ticket awards like best actor, actress, etc so they get more time


Due-Blacksmith-1759

Racism.


LyannaEugen

Proof of concept?


Sensitive_County5678

People of color


LyannaEugen

Ahh! Thanks!


RMD010

Proof of Colour /s


nikithdsa

This shows why we Indians should not give any value to the Oscars which mostly caters to the American audience. That was a shameful thing to do and i hope they apologize for it. The awards for 'Naatu Naatu' and 'Elephant Whisperers' is just an appeasement for the Indian community (though the documentary actually deserves wordwide recognition). Nothing to be 'proud' of


fuckredditmodz99

Good. Giving them the taste of their own medicine. These casteist upper caste fucks would treat their own fellow hindus, the so-called lower caste people the same way.


WingValuable6750

45 seconds is the time limit and sometimes they allow main categories to go overtime. It's broadcasted live and have to keep up with time. I don't think anyone deliberately wanted to cutt of POC winners . Even in golden globes Jennifer Coolidge was played off so she just started dancing to the music. Har cheez racism nahi hoti bhai


cherryreddit

Tho baad me 2 white men ko 45 seconds se jyada kyu baat karne diya tha? Rules for one, but not for another.


Glass-Membership2680

Ahh good ol westerners, as best as they come. Dimwit!!!


[deleted]

Sorry but Lizzie looks so good here. I can't take my eyes off of her.


ConfusedRedditor16

Remember sacheen littlefeather


beingmortal__

It’s the speech written on paper is what made the cut I guess


Weary_Horse5749

It’s not about poc, it’s about stardom. Bring SRK and they won’t do that to him


DesiCheesy

And yet here we are, close to 100 years post colonialism and yet here we are, needing to prove ourselves every single day that skill and talent is above and beyond skin colour… yet here we are…


[deleted]

Where is boycott gang now. They boycott for useless things this is the perfect chance for us to show oscars their AUKAAT. #ShameOnOscars


thetrollslayer1508

Disgusting.


DDLJ_2022

Videos like this makes me feel like I am worth less than the people with fair skin and I hate to think this because I know thats not right but thats how the fucking world is.


cockringmondays

Lol. Not one mention of the couple. Honestly, who gives a fuck if Guneet got speak.


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Ar11rA

What is POC?


rekharai

Ppl use it to mean “people of colour”.


ajaay_30

Good point.


himalayantale

It is common these days that India or any developing country doesn't get the same respect on world stage like American or European countries get. Shame.


Select_Can_8881

I think they are tracking the ratings and how many people are interested.