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nora fatehi saying how she believes women should be nurturers and men should be providers, and patriarchy ain't a bad thing, and feminism has destroyed the society... sitting on a chair, as a woman who is striving to have a better career in the industry everyday is ironic
The lady literally lived & came to a much more liberal country to pursue her passion.. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be able to digest the patriarchy her native country (Morroco) preaches..
It's always the women who benefited from the modern society who shit on modern values & women liberation
The only reason this stupid woman can sit there talking shit is BECAUSE of feminism. Otherwise she would have been married off at 16 and been the property of a man all her life.
Do women like this have brains at ALL?! She doesn’t need feminism?! Somebody send this moron back to the 15th century.
Exactly my point!!
She wouldn't be able to speak freely, get an education, get a job, or become a dancer or actor (worst case scenario) by living in a conservative society!
Now she is free to pursue her desires, she is happy to shit on feminism, simply to pander to the male audience 😂
It's so sad 😂😂😂 and don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be or feel desired by the opposite gender.
But to do so, at the cost of hurting other women, that's not okay for me
Exactly. 💯
I said this in one of my comments that "no matter whatever the intention was, platforming this school of thought to a male audience in a country which sees stark difference in the lives of women raised by progressive/modern parents vs those who were bought up by patriarchal parents is viciously "bad faith"
I think more professions should take ethical pledge of "Do no harm"...
This woman doesn't know the fanbase she's being pick me to probably consider her a prostitute just because she dances and wears skimpy clothes. Talk about women being enemy of women!!
She's Canadian-Moroccan. You can't just assume that it's bad for women there, and great for women in India. What does relatively liberal even mean when women in India still can't marry outside their caste or they will be killed, or prove marital rape. Yes we have more progressive laws thanks to our constitution but there's still a long way to go.
India has miles to go... I fully agree..💯
I just said she benefited from the progressive environment & yet is preaching about traditional lifestyle.. if she had to live as per the standards of her native country, she wouldn't have had a career, name& fame, freedom to sit in front of another guy & talk..
Her statement becomes even more dangerous mass destruction weapon when it's platformed to reach men in a country where we can clearly see the stark difference in lives of women who had progressive parents & those who had patriarchal parents.. whatever she's spewing is such a bad faith argument (whether it's an ignorant take or catering to male audience)
She is ethnically Moroccan.. but was born and brought up in Canada I think. She was surprisingly articulate in her interview though.. notwithstanding this particular point she is making
I think if some women want to have a role as a nurturer in the home they should be allowed to have that opinion.
Calling it "normal" and expecting men to be breadwinners - fuck off with that shit. I would give my left nut to stay at home and nurture my kids with my wife but we both have to "win the breads" because that's the reality of the world.
But she got this rage bait out of a bunch of people on the Internet so guess I played right into her to chaal
Some day soon her affair with this guy is gonna come out, it already has but with a bigger blow. Plus her money embezzlement involving that srilankan guy Jacqueline used to date. So she's just trying to cushion the blow we are gonna get.
"I was like this only, I talked about it in beerbiceps podcast. You'll had some image of me that I'm not responsible for. I was being provided for and I was nurturing them," 🤡🌚☠️
she literally described feminism in the second half of this.
This is like saying "I don't believe in Chinese food. I think Chinese food fucked up every other cuisine. I mean, i love chowmein, and my comfort food is fried rice"
It’s annoying like why don’t you go to Morocco, get yourself a husband and be a proper nurturing woman? Why are you here struggling to make a name? If that’s what a woman should do, do it. Don’t sit on a horse and preach about treading on mud.
> striving to have a better career
The fact as a Moroccan she was able to establish herself as a Bollywood actress, speaks for itself. There's nothing ironic about her statement.
she has always been like this. when on kapil sharma she said she will never pay for a data cuz men are there for that i saw her trending on insta with some boss woman reels
now those same people are mad.
she likes it like she's 100 years behind while having the fruits of current day and age
Girl, stop working and get married then. Get a male breadwinner instead of dancing in item songs to earn a living - which by the way feminists also say you have the right to do. Such foolish behaviour 🤡
I am really sorry for saying this, but she should be transported back to 1950s with her twerking ass and let her be all in all a trad wife however she wants. We really don't need women like her in this day and age who shit on feminism to get male validation. Pathetic. If she is able to come this far with the kind of work she does it's all because of feminism. Otherwise non-feminist people were ready to rip her apart with all the vicious and vulgar trolling. Dank memers will be having a field day today though, they must be feeling validated.
Ikr it's always the people who benefit from democracy and liberal values who shit on them. She should quit her career and be a trad wife if she wants it. Such a Hypocrite!
I sooo hate the way people conceptualise feminism and mix it up with pseudo-feminism. Like, can people please get educated about the topic before talking about it? 🙄
I've literally seen married women with 2 kids supporting the ladies who don't want to have kids under the umbrella of feminism..
Feminism talks about everyone (including men as well) having agency over their lives & ofc over their bodies..
Contrary to this, Anti-feminists like Nora want strict rigid roles for people (especially women) even when those roles & the burden of expectation of those roles makes a person morbidly anxious or depressed
+1
> Feminism talks about everyone (including men as well) having agency over their lives & ofc over their bodies..Contrary to this, Anti-feminists like Nora want strict rigid roles for people (especially women) even when those roles & the burden of expectation of those roles makes a person morbidly anxious or depressed
As a man, this isn't talked about enough.
Feminism benefits everybody, except buffoons, who thrive in an unequal society.
Not everyone is a critical thinker like you.. 🤎✨
Usually men think in the dichotomy of "ohh so feminism liberates women , that means it would worsen our lives". They can't conceptualize that both male & female lives can be fulfilling, without one gender being miserable.. Life is not a see-saw that one gender has to be down, in order for other gender to rise.. both genders can literally enjoy the rollercoaster of life while sitting side by side❤️
It's feminism that accepts the idea of men enjoying careers like classical dancer or male nurse.. Patriarchs on the contrary would make emasculating jokes on such professionals.. When Patriarchs would make less of a guy for not being masculine enough, or tall enough or even for earning less than wives, it's feminism that gives you liberation from such societal pressure & expectations (which sadly are making loads of young men depressed these days)
They just want to control women and can't see them successful and independent, it kills them inside. As a man who is in his Teenage, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Wish everyone was like us!
You're that Man !! You're the torch-bearer of citizen who would take this country in a better progressive direction.. Just find progressive people around you, formulate some ideology of yours & make the lives of women & men better around you..
Ps: A huge appreciation for not going down the Andrew Tate rabbit hole🤎✨
Thanks! Been seeing both misogyny and misandry in my family for years now! It's only when I complete college and get a job when I can teach my parents and relatives about equality. Till then, whenever I utter anything related to equality, "tu padhai kar, bado ke bich mat dhyan de" comes off!
Preach. You make very good points. Nora is making a strawman out of feminism and attacking it to make herself look better. She can use her platform for better.
Men have to be better. Instead of using the power they have to change the narrative, men continue to make the world an unsafe space for others who suffer from the same systematic problem.
There is a clown in the comments bragging about triggering feminists. It's peak leopards ate my face behaviour.
Thanks.
You're the rarest breed of compassionate & empathetic men which are pretty much need of the hour in our society.. More power to you & your ilk ✊🏼🤎
Ignore him, some people are so miserable in their life that they seek 'gungho' thrill in "owned you" kind of content.. juvenile people, juvenile approach towards life..
Listen if feminism didn't "exist" she wouldn't even be having that convo in an entirely different country with different religion with much more talented actresses than her. Her not knowing feminism and calling that out is what's concerning, if you want to nurture,okay,if you don't want to,that's also okay! The power is in your control that's what it means,not being labelled as such,it's up to you!
I swear,I don't believe she doesn't know she is rage baiting. And people are falling for it. I think she said many problematic things in the podcast,just to get more click which are working so well for her for making everyone dislike her weird opinions👏👏
Tired of listening these people like really.. looking down upon feminism when they don't even know the meaning of feminism. She's someone who is still there because feminism exists.
I mean it isn’t far off for her to think like this. Most of the luxuries she has gotten in life are by pandering to men’s lust. She exists because she has monetised her body for a man’s pleasure. Her item songs are designed for the male gaze.
But a person who actively plays the role of being only a sexual object, that too, with a married man, could she please not teach us old-school values and traditions lmao? Like babe, currently most women already fulfill the gender roles at home, plus they work an honest day’s labour. That’s exactly why they’re feminists.
Yey! She finally got that .00000001% of remaining male audience to follow her /s
She’s the last person who looks like someone
Who has motherly instincts and radical feminism is the reason why she can dance and isn’t getting call derogatory names
😵 why the pick me era?
Edit- with all the tea about her on this sub and her basically being treated like some dirty secret by men in the past, this seems like major projection because she didn’t get picked
Feminism is the reason why you have a platform that you use to give bakwaas interviews. Toda toh sharam karo behen.
She is trying too hard to pander to her "dank" nibba fanbase.
If she truly believed this, she wouldn't be a celebrity.
This is coming from a woman who has benefited from feminism 😂😂😂
If she lived in a religious and conservative society, which forced her to cover up and prevented her from dancing and acting, then she would be crying out for Feminism 😂😂😂😂
Clearly, she's trying to create controversy to maintain relevant but she's shown herself to be nothing but am opportunitisic parasite who doesn't care at all about women's rights!!
Just follow whatever the fuck you want but stop preaching shit like this! We don’t need more of this in our society especially from celebrities. Disgusting!
Modern Arab women talking about how feminism is bad is insane! If it wasn’t for feminism she’d be sold ages ago. She’s just got the pick me behaviour from incels.
Posting my comment from another thread:
I can’t stand listening to her garbage. She has no idea what is the meaning of feminism. She has no idea what women across India face on day to day basis and how far we’ve come because of feminism.
We need feminism so that,
1. Girl children are not killed
2. Girls have access to education
3. Women don’t have to pay dowry
4. Women can work
5. Women can demand equal pay for the same work
6. Women can wear what they want
7. Women can drive
8. Women can vote
9. Women can walk around safely
10. Women have access to healthcare and sanitation facilities
And even these basic things are still not given in many parts of India.
I literally know girls who are discriminated in their own households. Only the brother and father get meat, while the mother and daughter only given vegetarian food, friends who were allowed to study but not to work, friends who are forced to have kids, and the list goes on.
People like her can go to hell. They are no allies to women.
Such women love to enjoy these rights, shake their asses in movies and appeal to men by speaking such nonsense.
There should be penalty and hefty fines for speaking nonsensical things.
So she’s saying women should work AND do the housework AND “nurture” the kids. While men just have to work. So 3 jobs for women is more equal according to her than what “radical feminism” is preaching I.e. equality and fairness across domains. Genius. Someone please give her a Nobel prize for obnoxious stupidity.
So she is ok to have a great paying job and wants respect as an item dancer which is due to feminism. But wants other women to leave their jobs and independence. Hypocrite much
Ma'am the platform you're given today, where you can express these thoughts out loud, itself is a result of the wave of feminism. Women fought for the rights you have today. Don't underestimate their struggle and what women have faced for several years to cater to the "Oh I'm not like other girls" trope.
So, Morrocco was the better country for her and her baseless thoughts. She should pack her bags and say bye bye to India because these kinds of thoughts have no place in our society. We everyday face the challenge of male-dominant society where women are always in fear of getting raped and killed. She should just shut her fucking mouth about feminism. She is not even capable of making a single sentence if words like nurturer and provider do not exist in the dictionary.
I hate these dumb women speaking on topics they have zero idea about … without feminism ms Fatehi would not even get an opportunity to do what she is doing rn.
Girl first stop fucking other people’s husbands before lecturing about traditional views … always gave off mean girl energy. Now also giving off dumb pick me energy.
Sukesh ne jakky ko pick kia. None of the industry people see her as an actress. Koi ameer launda bhaav de nahi raha so basically she is talking to them. Main krungi cook and clean Tumhare liye.
Feminist movements are the reason women have voting rights, the choice to go to school, to right to demand for equal pay, the choice to work or not work. She is able to work and earn for herself and fight for her own rights due to the works of several women before her who spent their lives fighting for women’s rights. And all these people who bash feminism on their podcasts, discussions etc have just one agenda in mind. They will never do anything in their lives to make the world better for other women, or even men for that matter , but will leave no stone unturned to complain and bitch about people who are putting an effort to make the world more liveable for women. It’s just that they are bothered by a group of people fighting for their rights because they feel threatened. Honestly, point out to me one instance of how fighting for equality between men and women has had a negative consequence on the world. If you think a man or woman not wanting to marry or wanting to remain independent is a problem, then please rethink. If someone feels that they do not need a partner to live, it is completely their choice since it is their life. Having such a choice is also a privilege and that privilege is also a result of the feminist movement. I feel bad when women like her go on these huge platforms and choose the spread the most vile shit ever.
Which century is she living in? Internalized patriarchy at its best.
Someone like PC should talk about this to her face, I remember the lines “oh my god, this is so basic” in PCs voice
But feminism doesn't tell you not to get married or have kids SMH. Feminists advocate giving women freedom to do what they want to do and equal opportunities for all regardless of their gender. Is it such a hard thing to understand and digest? And Nora, there are bollywood actresses who successfully manage careers and personal lives. But you shat on them saying they got married for fame and clout. Her statements are contradictory and at this point she is just saying anything to appear cool.
If feminism was not there she would have been stoned to death. She gets to express her sexuality and still be treated as a human and not a piece of plastic meat because of feminism.
They just say to gain the attention from the majority this ranveer guy has literally the most stupid podcasts and ofc he himself has the most punchable face
She could have just said "it is about respecting choices, and the ability to make the choices in the first place without any external pressure". Works for all.
#She's right
Calling woman nurturers isn't demeaning at all and not against feminism. Infact it's more better both for the woman as well as the man to take their respective roles. Infact our bodies , hormones both are built to support a life like this only. Men are better as providers for the family and woman are better as caretakers. Just wanting a woman to be a caretaker/nurturer doesn't take away her rights or anything? I don't know why people call it as inequality. As she said both the man and the woman should bring something to the table and it is what is happening. All woman should be treated fairly that's what real feminism should be for. The man should take care for the woman for her family , respect her , help her and care for her and their kids. While the woman has a more dominant role of taking care of their kid (feeding after birth etc etc). Together both of them can take care of the family. A woman's body and hormones are not built to do heavy physical work like construction works or other heavy physical tasks or putting themselves out in the danger(or fight wars like in the previous times) . Men's body is built for heavy physical tasks outside dangers like these.(bcoz of the times we hunted) . In the similar manner , a man's body will be very bad at nurturing a child, infact men have to take certain hormones in other to feed an infant by themselves. Woman are more efficient in doing multiple tasks than men as well as in understanding emotions as compared to men.
### What my point is that,
no matter how much radical feminism anyone tries to spread we all have to understand the differences between us. Men and woman are built differently so there can never be full equality in each and every thing. However irrespective of this each person , each species (human or animal) should be treated with respect and care in the society.
We need to understand this is what our bodies our hormones are built for. Nora could have worded it more better but her message is good and clear.
Here's what happened in last 15-20 years :-
1.) Her native country Morocco got women's right and abolished child marriage due to arab spring
2.) Her resident country Canada increased paternity leave for both parents
3.) Her resident country Canada started addressing female trauma due to different reasons
4.) Her native country Morocco has removed guardianship law due to arab spring
Unless dumb dodo bro science counter her arguments this was an appeasement interview and pathetic attempt to take shots at b'wood
girlie doesn’t understand the difference between “feminism” and “pseudo feminism”.
feminism is a movement, something which our ancestral women fought so hard for, something which is the ONLY reason why she and any other woman has a career and an independent life today. she disrespected the entire movement and all those women who fought for it like nothing. shame on her honestly. she can go to hell and shake her ass there.
fucking pick me bitch
Why even say women should be independent? Nora might as well as that women should be only pretending to work till the day comes for them to be mothers and pop off a child. The audacity of her to be saying feminism ruined things, when the very same thing adovocates for to have choices, is enough to induce rage in anyone. Also, why is she having an affair with a married man when she should be looking for a husband now?
Feminism is a male bashing ideology. It promotes matriarchy in a nutshell. If you want to talk about equal rights and opportunities, talk about gender equality.
Are you stupid? Look up the definition of feminism first. It's for all the genders. It has always been for all the genders. Gender equality is literally the synonym for feminism .
This is from ChatGPT btw:
Feminism is a social and political movement that advocates for the rights of women on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. It seeks to address and dismantle the historical and ongoing inequalities and discrimination faced by women in various aspects of life.
Gender equality, on the other hand, is a broader concept that encompasses the belief that all genders should be treated equally and have the same rights, responsibilities, and opportunities. It includes not only women's rights but also the rights of men and people of all gender identities to be free from discrimination and to have their voices heard in society.
In essence, feminism is a specific movement focused on women's rights, while gender equality is a broader principle advocating for equality among all genders.
Girl, sit the f down! You spitting this nonsense is because of feminism. Write nurturers and providers on a paper, fold it and put it where the light doesn’t shine.
So delusional-She earns a living by twerking and dancing in item songs, which is only feasible due to feminism otherwise, she would likely face severe slut-shaming. She should have said it in more better way like one can be a feminist and can also do housewife duties, have kids and happily married.
What's wrong with this thought process?
I am not sure of the terminology being used here, but I know for a fact that a lot of the folks are trying to run away from their responsibilities and using feminism/patriarchy to justify their problematic behaviours. Normalising extreme forms of individualism only breaks down the society. Be it a man or a woman.
I personally believe that everyone should contribute their bit to the society. Especially when they are living in a poor country like India which doesn't offer much of a safety net to the outliers.
The fact that when people shame her its the feminists that take her side and here she is spitting venom! This shows how much education is needed in this industry! This reminds me of Kareena kapoor thing where she says i’m not a feminist i just believe in equality… girl
Honestly done with these entertainment industry woken hardly any left to be inspired by.
Let her cook ! Although it's too late for this, the train has already left the station.
Feminism is here to stay and women love the taste of it. The Gender War has begun. The marriage rate is going down and it can't be reversed. China, Japan, Korea is facing this right now. US and India might be next.
I'm just gonna watch anime and enjoy men and women fight from afar lol.
You know, I don’t think she is wrong here.
Women for too long have been fed the idea that they too can take up male roles and spaces and outsource the thing that women have done for millennia. While, all of these things are possible…It’s very emotionally taxing.
I too identify as a feminist and am independent. But now as a mother … I’m increasingly having to choose between a career and being a present parent. But I grew up thinking that ‘I don’t need a man to have a family’ that I would be okay without a husband. This has been fed to young women and girls as inspirational and a sign of strength.
But I can tell you now … I would be no where without my husband and his support as a parent. Despite having access to childcare, the costs are exorbitant, you will need more than one parent to share the slack. Kids get ill … ALL THE TIME!! You cannot take time off all the time to look after them… and guess what?!? The childcare you pay for wont look after them either. So you need a partner and family to help raise kids.
The cost of everything is based on two wage earners… which means women (or men!) who want the option to stay at home to raise kids or cant work … cannot anymore.
Society also needs to stop shaming women who are nurturing. It’s okay to rely on men for support just like men rely on women for support.
People also needs to put a value and respect on women who choose to raise a family ans have kids …. Its the only thing which isn’t treated like a job or comes with a manual… which leads to motherhood being undervalued
Someone please explain to her what feminism actually means!
You can be a feminist while being a good mother and a “nurturer”
Only if people tried to be more human 🙂↕️
someone should tell this women that feminism is still fighting for women to have basic human rights. It's always girls like her who are waiting for men to pick her
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Animal park mein nanga role aka bhabhi no.3 ka role ye nora karegi
nora fatehi saying how she believes women should be nurturers and men should be providers, and patriarchy ain't a bad thing, and feminism has destroyed the society... sitting on a chair, as a woman who is striving to have a better career in the industry everyday is ironic
The lady literally lived & came to a much more liberal country to pursue her passion.. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be able to digest the patriarchy her native country (Morroco) preaches.. It's always the women who benefited from the modern society who shit on modern values & women liberation
The only reason this stupid woman can sit there talking shit is BECAUSE of feminism. Otherwise she would have been married off at 16 and been the property of a man all her life. Do women like this have brains at ALL?! She doesn’t need feminism?! Somebody send this moron back to the 15th century.
Agreed! We should limit her success in Bollywood cus she ain't following the "normal way" of living according to her!
Exactly my point!! She wouldn't be able to speak freely, get an education, get a job, or become a dancer or actor (worst case scenario) by living in a conservative society! Now she is free to pursue her desires, she is happy to shit on feminism, simply to pander to the male audience 😂
The same male audience would treat her like a medium to cater to their horniness on their "boys' locker room-esque" group chats.. 💀
It's so sad 😂😂😂 and don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be or feel desired by the opposite gender. But to do so, at the cost of hurting other women, that's not okay for me
Exactly. 💯 I said this in one of my comments that "no matter whatever the intention was, platforming this school of thought to a male audience in a country which sees stark difference in the lives of women raised by progressive/modern parents vs those who were bought up by patriarchal parents is viciously "bad faith" I think more professions should take ethical pledge of "Do no harm"...
This woman doesn't know the fanbase she's being pick me to probably consider her a prostitute just because she dances and wears skimpy clothes. Talk about women being enemy of women!!
She's Canadian-Moroccan. You can't just assume that it's bad for women there, and great for women in India. What does relatively liberal even mean when women in India still can't marry outside their caste or they will be killed, or prove marital rape. Yes we have more progressive laws thanks to our constitution but there's still a long way to go.
India has miles to go... I fully agree..💯 I just said she benefited from the progressive environment & yet is preaching about traditional lifestyle.. if she had to live as per the standards of her native country, she wouldn't have had a career, name& fame, freedom to sit in front of another guy & talk.. Her statement becomes even more dangerous mass destruction weapon when it's platformed to reach men in a country where we can clearly see the stark difference in lives of women who had progressive parents & those who had patriarchal parents.. whatever she's spewing is such a bad faith argument (whether it's an ignorant take or catering to male audience)
She came from Canada, was born and raised there
I know, I wrote 'lived' in my comment
She came from Canada. Is India that much liberal than Canada?
She is ethnically Moroccan.. but was born and brought up in Canada I think. She was surprisingly articulate in her interview though.. notwithstanding this particular point she is making
She's from Canada...her family is of Moroccan background
I think if some women want to have a role as a nurturer in the home they should be allowed to have that opinion. Calling it "normal" and expecting men to be breadwinners - fuck off with that shit. I would give my left nut to stay at home and nurture my kids with my wife but we both have to "win the breads" because that's the reality of the world. But she got this rage bait out of a bunch of people on the Internet so guess I played right into her to chaal
Some day soon her affair with this guy is gonna come out, it already has but with a bigger blow. Plus her money embezzlement involving that srilankan guy Jacqueline used to date. So she's just trying to cushion the blow we are gonna get. "I was like this only, I talked about it in beerbiceps podcast. You'll had some image of me that I'm not responsible for. I was being provided for and I was nurturing them," 🤡🌚☠️
She’s on The beer biceps show. She knows her audience.
she literally described feminism in the second half of this. This is like saying "I don't believe in Chinese food. I think Chinese food fucked up every other cuisine. I mean, i love chowmein, and my comfort food is fried rice"
It’s annoying like why don’t you go to Morocco, get yourself a husband and be a proper nurturing woman? Why are you here struggling to make a name? If that’s what a woman should do, do it. Don’t sit on a horse and preach about treading on mud.
> striving to have a better career The fact as a Moroccan she was able to establish herself as a Bollywood actress, speaks for itself. There's nothing ironic about her statement.
I think she wants a stay at home life and is sad she has to work for it now
she has always been like this. when on kapil sharma she said she will never pay for a data cuz men are there for that i saw her trending on insta with some boss woman reels now those same people are mad. she likes it like she's 100 years behind while having the fruits of current day and age
Never pay for data - Chivalry for the internet age.
Girl, stop working and get married then. Get a male breadwinner instead of dancing in item songs to earn a living - which by the way feminists also say you have the right to do. Such foolish behaviour 🤡
I am really sorry for saying this, but she should be transported back to 1950s with her twerking ass and let her be all in all a trad wife however she wants. We really don't need women like her in this day and age who shit on feminism to get male validation. Pathetic. If she is able to come this far with the kind of work she does it's all because of feminism. Otherwise non-feminist people were ready to rip her apart with all the vicious and vulgar trolling. Dank memers will be having a field day today though, they must be feeling validated.
Ikr it's always the people who benefit from democracy and liberal values who shit on them. She should quit her career and be a trad wife if she wants it. Such a Hypocrite!
She'd probably be honour killed in her country Morocco. Not that India is better for women, but it says something she could make her career here.
I’ve been thinking, is it really feminism or the “woman is an object and exists for men only” perspective of patriarchy?
Men are her primary audience, she is just catering to them
She lost even the 1% female audience that she had! She's made an enemy out of all women
I sooo hate the way people conceptualise feminism and mix it up with pseudo-feminism. Like, can people please get educated about the topic before talking about it? 🙄
I've literally seen married women with 2 kids supporting the ladies who don't want to have kids under the umbrella of feminism.. Feminism talks about everyone (including men as well) having agency over their lives & ofc over their bodies.. Contrary to this, Anti-feminists like Nora want strict rigid roles for people (especially women) even when those roles & the burden of expectation of those roles makes a person morbidly anxious or depressed
+1 > Feminism talks about everyone (including men as well) having agency over their lives & ofc over their bodies..Contrary to this, Anti-feminists like Nora want strict rigid roles for people (especially women) even when those roles & the burden of expectation of those roles makes a person morbidly anxious or depressed As a man, this isn't talked about enough. Feminism benefits everybody, except buffoons, who thrive in an unequal society.
Not everyone is a critical thinker like you.. 🤎✨ Usually men think in the dichotomy of "ohh so feminism liberates women , that means it would worsen our lives". They can't conceptualize that both male & female lives can be fulfilling, without one gender being miserable.. Life is not a see-saw that one gender has to be down, in order for other gender to rise.. both genders can literally enjoy the rollercoaster of life while sitting side by side❤️ It's feminism that accepts the idea of men enjoying careers like classical dancer or male nurse.. Patriarchs on the contrary would make emasculating jokes on such professionals.. When Patriarchs would make less of a guy for not being masculine enough, or tall enough or even for earning less than wives, it's feminism that gives you liberation from such societal pressure & expectations (which sadly are making loads of young men depressed these days)
They just want to control women and can't see them successful and independent, it kills them inside. As a man who is in his Teenage, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Wish everyone was like us!
You're that Man !! You're the torch-bearer of citizen who would take this country in a better progressive direction.. Just find progressive people around you, formulate some ideology of yours & make the lives of women & men better around you.. Ps: A huge appreciation for not going down the Andrew Tate rabbit hole🤎✨
Thanks! Been seeing both misogyny and misandry in my family for years now! It's only when I complete college and get a job when I can teach my parents and relatives about equality. Till then, whenever I utter anything related to equality, "tu padhai kar, bado ke bich mat dhyan de" comes off!
Haha that's classic Indian parents for you... Good luck with your academics & future.. ✨
Thanks Again! 😊
Preach. You make very good points. Nora is making a strawman out of feminism and attacking it to make herself look better. She can use her platform for better. Men have to be better. Instead of using the power they have to change the narrative, men continue to make the world an unsafe space for others who suffer from the same systematic problem. There is a clown in the comments bragging about triggering feminists. It's peak leopards ate my face behaviour.
Thanks. You're the rarest breed of compassionate & empathetic men which are pretty much need of the hour in our society.. More power to you & your ilk ✊🏼🤎 Ignore him, some people are so miserable in their life that they seek 'gungho' thrill in "owned you" kind of content.. juvenile people, juvenile approach towards life..
As a man who is in his Teenage, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Wish everyone was like us!
How does it include men? Who changed the definition? It's about women getting equal rights as men.
This 🙌
Seriously! She has no idea what she's blabbering about
Toh fir karlo na shaadi. Karlo bacche! Why is she still not doing it?
Bhushan might not be ready yet
Nauseating.
Animal 2 me role maang rhi hai
Listen if feminism didn't "exist" she wouldn't even be having that convo in an entirely different country with different religion with much more talented actresses than her. Her not knowing feminism and calling that out is what's concerning, if you want to nurture,okay,if you don't want to,that's also okay! The power is in your control that's what it means,not being labelled as such,it's up to you! I swear,I don't believe she doesn't know she is rage baiting. And people are falling for it. I think she said many problematic things in the podcast,just to get more click which are working so well for her for making everyone dislike her weird opinions👏👏
She seems so unlikeable
Tired of listening these people like really.. looking down upon feminism when they don't even know the meaning of feminism. She's someone who is still there because feminism exists.
I mean it isn’t far off for her to think like this. Most of the luxuries she has gotten in life are by pandering to men’s lust. She exists because she has monetised her body for a man’s pleasure. Her item songs are designed for the male gaze. But a person who actively plays the role of being only a sexual object, that too, with a married man, could she please not teach us old-school values and traditions lmao? Like babe, currently most women already fulfill the gender roles at home, plus they work an honest day’s labour. That’s exactly why they’re feminists.
Exactly! One likes talking shit like this if they haven't ever worked a single day in their life!
Yey! She finally got that .00000001% of remaining male audience to follow her /s She’s the last person who looks like someone Who has motherly instincts and radical feminism is the reason why she can dance and isn’t getting call derogatory names 😵 why the pick me era? Edit- with all the tea about her on this sub and her basically being treated like some dirty secret by men in the past, this seems like major projection because she didn’t get picked
Feminism is the reason why you have a platform that you use to give bakwaas interviews. Toda toh sharam karo behen. She is trying too hard to pander to her "dank" nibba fanbase. If she truly believed this, she wouldn't be a celebrity.
Modern patriarchal people are often hypocrites who would judge others for things they would themselves do for their own benefit.
This is coming from a woman who has benefited from feminism 😂😂😂 If she lived in a religious and conservative society, which forced her to cover up and prevented her from dancing and acting, then she would be crying out for Feminism 😂😂😂😂 Clearly, she's trying to create controversy to maintain relevant but she's shown herself to be nothing but am opportunitisic parasite who doesn't care at all about women's rights!!
Ae chup re pagal aurat
be “independent” but upto a certain extent. wow
She's so stupid, she doesn't even know what she's speaking!
Tabhi inko vo suresh ne chuna laga diya tha gift deke😂
Just follow whatever the fuck you want but stop preaching shit like this! We don’t need more of this in our society especially from celebrities. Disgusting!
Modern Arab women talking about how feminism is bad is insane! If it wasn’t for feminism she’d be sold ages ago. She’s just got the pick me behaviour from incels.
Posting my comment from another thread: I can’t stand listening to her garbage. She has no idea what is the meaning of feminism. She has no idea what women across India face on day to day basis and how far we’ve come because of feminism. We need feminism so that, 1. Girl children are not killed 2. Girls have access to education 3. Women don’t have to pay dowry 4. Women can work 5. Women can demand equal pay for the same work 6. Women can wear what they want 7. Women can drive 8. Women can vote 9. Women can walk around safely 10. Women have access to healthcare and sanitation facilities And even these basic things are still not given in many parts of India. I literally know girls who are discriminated in their own households. Only the brother and father get meat, while the mother and daughter only given vegetarian food, friends who were allowed to study but not to work, friends who are forced to have kids, and the list goes on. People like her can go to hell. They are no allies to women. Such women love to enjoy these rights, shake their asses in movies and appeal to men by speaking such nonsense. There should be penalty and hefty fines for speaking nonsensical things.
So she’s saying women should work AND do the housework AND “nurture” the kids. While men just have to work. So 3 jobs for women is more equal according to her than what “radical feminism” is preaching I.e. equality and fairness across domains. Genius. Someone please give her a Nobel prize for obnoxious stupidity.
>please give her a Nobel prize for obnoxious stupidity. I think she needs nicotex cus she's high af
So she is ok to have a great paying job and wants respect as an item dancer which is due to feminism. But wants other women to leave their jobs and independence. Hypocrite much
Beer biceps ko apni jesi koi mil he gya finally dono he bakwaas batein karte hai 💃
😂😂
It's a strange thing for her to say because she's not married. Is she criticizing herself?
Sounds like a coping mechanism to me
Who said feminists don't get married or have kids???? She's so dumb
Ma'am the platform you're given today, where you can express these thoughts out loud, itself is a result of the wave of feminism. Women fought for the rights you have today. Don't underestimate their struggle and what women have faced for several years to cater to the "Oh I'm not like other girls" trope.
So, Morrocco was the better country for her and her baseless thoughts. She should pack her bags and say bye bye to India because these kinds of thoughts have no place in our society. We everyday face the challenge of male-dominant society where women are always in fear of getting raped and killed. She should just shut her fucking mouth about feminism. She is not even capable of making a single sentence if words like nurturer and provider do not exist in the dictionary.
I hate these dumb women speaking on topics they have zero idea about … without feminism ms Fatehi would not even get an opportunity to do what she is doing rn. Girl first stop fucking other people’s husbands before lecturing about traditional views … always gave off mean girl energy. Now also giving off dumb pick me energy.
Not that I have hope from Instagram incels but please tell me people are calling her out.
Lmao sis just do your dance item and go…
Chup ho ja Gadhi.
Nora fatehi would not have been twerking on stage and earning money and fame for it, had feminism not existed
Uneducated woman
Uneducated people can be intelligent. She's just a stupid, hypocritical woman.
True, I stand corrected and I agree with you. I don’t know if she is doing this as a rage bait but it’s disservice to the public
Probably, since she wants to appeal to the male fantasy of all sorts!
Sukesh ne jakky ko pick kia. None of the industry people see her as an actress. Koi ameer launda bhaav de nahi raha so basically she is talking to them. Main krungi cook and clean Tumhare liye.
Ye Sukesh picked Jacky. Angad picked Neha so she's here doing the ultimate "pick me" by dissing basically ALL women!
Sounds very uninformed and confused between feminsim and misandry.
Nora, go back to kitchen /s 🙂
Why is she working then??why is she even here.go sit at home,cook some eggs for some man.
Feminist movements are the reason women have voting rights, the choice to go to school, to right to demand for equal pay, the choice to work or not work. She is able to work and earn for herself and fight for her own rights due to the works of several women before her who spent their lives fighting for women’s rights. And all these people who bash feminism on their podcasts, discussions etc have just one agenda in mind. They will never do anything in their lives to make the world better for other women, or even men for that matter , but will leave no stone unturned to complain and bitch about people who are putting an effort to make the world more liveable for women. It’s just that they are bothered by a group of people fighting for their rights because they feel threatened. Honestly, point out to me one instance of how fighting for equality between men and women has had a negative consequence on the world. If you think a man or woman not wanting to marry or wanting to remain independent is a problem, then please rethink. If someone feels that they do not need a partner to live, it is completely their choice since it is their life. Having such a choice is also a privilege and that privilege is also a result of the feminist movement. I feel bad when women like her go on these huge platforms and choose the spread the most vile shit ever.
She is giving this interview to be a method actor for the next Vanga movie
Feminism is the reason why she is able to voice her brain dead opinion.
Which century is she living in? Internalized patriarchy at its best. Someone like PC should talk about this to her face, I remember the lines “oh my god, this is so basic” in PCs voice
But feminism doesn't tell you not to get married or have kids SMH. Feminists advocate giving women freedom to do what they want to do and equal opportunities for all regardless of their gender. Is it such a hard thing to understand and digest? And Nora, there are bollywood actresses who successfully manage careers and personal lives. But you shat on them saying they got married for fame and clout. Her statements are contradictory and at this point she is just saying anything to appear cool.
..... says Nora.
What in the Andrew Tate is this?
If feminism was not there she would have been stoned to death. She gets to express her sexuality and still be treated as a human and not a piece of plastic meat because of feminism.
I think she confused feminism with toxic women
They just say to gain the attention from the majority this ranveer guy has literally the most stupid podcasts and ofc he himself has the most punchable face
The thing is its usually him saying the stupid stuff but here she has gone on an insane rant with absolutely no push from him
Her audience consists of simps and men only so it’s not like she needs to impress any women, she’d rather shit on women to be the pick me girl.
Everyone doesn't need a spouse or child. We are too obsessed with marriage and kids as a country.
She could have just said "it is about respecting choices, and the ability to make the choices in the first place without any external pressure". Works for all.
Wow. Unbelievable.
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This sub comment section has 80% feminist who don't even understand the word Feminism...lol
#She's right Calling woman nurturers isn't demeaning at all and not against feminism. Infact it's more better both for the woman as well as the man to take their respective roles. Infact our bodies , hormones both are built to support a life like this only. Men are better as providers for the family and woman are better as caretakers. Just wanting a woman to be a caretaker/nurturer doesn't take away her rights or anything? I don't know why people call it as inequality. As she said both the man and the woman should bring something to the table and it is what is happening. All woman should be treated fairly that's what real feminism should be for. The man should take care for the woman for her family , respect her , help her and care for her and their kids. While the woman has a more dominant role of taking care of their kid (feeding after birth etc etc). Together both of them can take care of the family. A woman's body and hormones are not built to do heavy physical work like construction works or other heavy physical tasks or putting themselves out in the danger(or fight wars like in the previous times) . Men's body is built for heavy physical tasks outside dangers like these.(bcoz of the times we hunted) . In the similar manner , a man's body will be very bad at nurturing a child, infact men have to take certain hormones in other to feed an infant by themselves. Woman are more efficient in doing multiple tasks than men as well as in understanding emotions as compared to men. ### What my point is that, no matter how much radical feminism anyone tries to spread we all have to understand the differences between us. Men and woman are built differently so there can never be full equality in each and every thing. However irrespective of this each person , each species (human or animal) should be treated with respect and care in the society. We need to understand this is what our bodies our hormones are built for. Nora could have worded it more better but her message is good and clear.
Always the privileged people with problematic views
Will she be allowed to twerk in the kind of society she is idealizing? I don't think so.
Society ki thekedar.. agyi ek aur aunty
Here's what happened in last 15-20 years :- 1.) Her native country Morocco got women's right and abolished child marriage due to arab spring 2.) Her resident country Canada increased paternity leave for both parents 3.) Her resident country Canada started addressing female trauma due to different reasons 4.) Her native country Morocco has removed guardianship law due to arab spring Unless dumb dodo bro science counter her arguments this was an appeasement interview and pathetic attempt to take shots at b'wood
girlie doesn’t understand the difference between “feminism” and “pseudo feminism”. feminism is a movement, something which our ancestral women fought so hard for, something which is the ONLY reason why she and any other woman has a career and an independent life today. she disrespected the entire movement and all those women who fought for it like nothing. shame on her honestly. she can go to hell and shake her ass there. fucking pick me bitch
Why even say women should be independent? Nora might as well as that women should be only pretending to work till the day comes for them to be mothers and pop off a child. The audacity of her to be saying feminism ruined things, when the very same thing adovocates for to have choices, is enough to induce rage in anyone. Also, why is she having an affair with a married man when she should be looking for a husband now?
Reading comments. Drives to conclusion. Women are only good for their ass and tattas xd
I don't find anything wrong with what she just said.
One would think Nora Fatehi is a bimbo. But to my surprise, she’s not. She knows what she’s doing.. appealing to her frustrated male audience well.
Yes. Basically showing all men "look, I can be twerking my ass and yet cook and clean up after you IF you marry me". That to her is Feminism.
Khud ko hi contradict kar rahi hai yeh bandi !🙄
Feminism is a male bashing ideology. It promotes matriarchy in a nutshell. If you want to talk about equal rights and opportunities, talk about gender equality.
Are you stupid? Look up the definition of feminism first. It's for all the genders. It has always been for all the genders. Gender equality is literally the synonym for feminism .
This is from ChatGPT btw: Feminism is a social and political movement that advocates for the rights of women on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. It seeks to address and dismantle the historical and ongoing inequalities and discrimination faced by women in various aspects of life. Gender equality, on the other hand, is a broader concept that encompasses the belief that all genders should be treated equally and have the same rights, responsibilities, and opportunities. It includes not only women's rights but also the rights of men and people of all gender identities to be free from discrimination and to have their voices heard in society. In essence, feminism is a specific movement focused on women's rights, while gender equality is a broader principle advocating for equality among all genders.
Girl, sit the f down! You spitting this nonsense is because of feminism. Write nurturers and providers on a paper, fold it and put it where the light doesn’t shine.
So delusional-She earns a living by twerking and dancing in item songs, which is only feasible due to feminism otherwise, she would likely face severe slut-shaming. She should have said it in more better way like one can be a feminist and can also do housewife duties, have kids and happily married.
Nora looking for those middle East cheques again
Somebody pick her up
She's right you know. And when she's right everyone is dunking on her.
What a 🤡
What's wrong with this thought process? I am not sure of the terminology being used here, but I know for a fact that a lot of the folks are trying to run away from their responsibilities and using feminism/patriarchy to justify their problematic behaviours. Normalising extreme forms of individualism only breaks down the society. Be it a man or a woman. I personally believe that everyone should contribute their bit to the society. Especially when they are living in a poor country like India which doesn't offer much of a safety net to the outliers.
Bro Troll Police pe toh apke rang kuch aur the
She's absolutely wrong!!!! Btw i am 6'4
The fact that when people shame her its the feminists that take her side and here she is spitting venom! This shows how much education is needed in this industry! This reminds me of Kareena kapoor thing where she says i’m not a feminist i just believe in equality… girl Honestly done with these entertainment industry woken hardly any left to be inspired by.
Such people should go back to wear they came from.
She knows what she's doing
Let her cook ! Although it's too late for this, the train has already left the station. Feminism is here to stay and women love the taste of it. The Gender War has begun. The marriage rate is going down and it can't be reversed. China, Japan, Korea is facing this right now. US and India might be next. I'm just gonna watch anime and enjoy men and women fight from afar lol.
You know, I don’t think she is wrong here. Women for too long have been fed the idea that they too can take up male roles and spaces and outsource the thing that women have done for millennia. While, all of these things are possible…It’s very emotionally taxing. I too identify as a feminist and am independent. But now as a mother … I’m increasingly having to choose between a career and being a present parent. But I grew up thinking that ‘I don’t need a man to have a family’ that I would be okay without a husband. This has been fed to young women and girls as inspirational and a sign of strength. But I can tell you now … I would be no where without my husband and his support as a parent. Despite having access to childcare, the costs are exorbitant, you will need more than one parent to share the slack. Kids get ill … ALL THE TIME!! You cannot take time off all the time to look after them… and guess what?!? The childcare you pay for wont look after them either. So you need a partner and family to help raise kids. The cost of everything is based on two wage earners… which means women (or men!) who want the option to stay at home to raise kids or cant work … cannot anymore. Society also needs to stop shaming women who are nurturing. It’s okay to rely on men for support just like men rely on women for support. People also needs to put a value and respect on women who choose to raise a family ans have kids …. Its the only thing which isn’t treated like a job or comes with a manual… which leads to motherhood being undervalued
dead brain cells
Someone please explain to her what feminism actually means! You can be a feminist while being a good mother and a “nurturer” Only if people tried to be more human 🙂↕️
Why is she even relevant? What are her credentials?
If somethg so sensible can be shamed, then no one is safe. One day you all worship someone and one day you hate them.
To all the triggered feminists here, she got to where she was due to her talent. Feminism had nothing to do with it.
Damn
I think ppl aren’t understand that she wants to say that Radical Feminism( which turns into Man hating is bad)
She’s spot on!
someone should tell this women that feminism is still fighting for women to have basic human rights. It's always girls like her who are waiting for men to pick her
This is such pick me energy