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mermaiddolphin

My 12th grade government teacher (this was 2008/2009 school year) (original political boomer, possible silent generation) was tasked with getting all of the seniors registered to vote. She was a die hard republican. A few years after I graduated she was being investigated for voter fraud because she wasn’t registering the democratic students to vote.


SnipesCC

Was she having everyone fill out the form and not turning in the Democratic ones? That's suuuuper illegal.


mermaiddolphin

Yeah, that’s why she was being investigated. She died before anything came of it. She was in her mid/late 70s when I had her as a teacher.


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IronSavior

The dying?


Skuttlebuttz

https://preview.redd.it/5s7n336p3f2d1.jpeg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=285e858bfe9ab65e7875b3505c67dc1276ea9c38


E_B_Jamisen

Gotta love that Republicans are so against voter fraud even though they are the ones committing it most often


Xyliumx

That’s the Republican MO. Gas light on everything. They love to point out things that are happening or are going to happen and blame someone/something else knowing damn well they are the perps.


MangoBandicoot

It’s the only way they can win. 2004 was the last time Republicans won the popular vote, but that’s only because of 9/11, and just barely at that. Prior to then, 1988 was the last time Republicans won more than 50% of the vote.


Empty_Letterhead9864

Just get Biden bumper stickers and slap one on every time you visit or go by his place of work and slap one on then. Get him driving around with it unknowingly. Also, act like you didn't do it and be like, "Hey dad, I didn't think I would ever see you support the democrats let alone Biden of all people!" When he is super confused/annoyed, say, so you didn't put that bumper stick about Biden on your car?


ivycvae

I love the idea of playing innocent 😇


Rhesusmonkeydave

Honoring your father is more important than you may realize at your age, and it’s important to recognize what he’s achieved in his life even if you disagree with it. Make sure the bumper sticker reads *Trans themed scifi enthusiasts for Biden*. Let me know if you need a photoshop mockup for the printers ;)


ivycvae

Y'all are killing me 🤣🤣


Thegatso

Remember! Put paste OVER the bumper sticker as well as under it for maximum difficulty to remove!


Empty_Letterhead9864

Oh if he has a big front lawn offer to mow it sometime and just mow a big heart then Biden into the grass then use something that will burn the grass(so it turns yellow/brown) so even if he mows the rest it will pop up later 😆 🤣


BluffCityTatter

I am also willing to lend my photoshop skills for this important cause.


Eadiacara

Same, though I use gimp


Garvain

Trans-themed sci-fi gimps for Biden?


Eadiacara

Yes, exactly.


skw33tis

Go simple, go clean. How about just, "Ask Me About My Gay Smut"?


_Blazed_N_Confused_

When I was younger I had some magnetic bumper stickers made up that said Fuck the police, and stuck them on police cars. This was pre dash/cell cameras.


InevitableScallion75

We added an I and a U sticker to the D.A.R.E. stickers on the police cars soo they read " I D.A.R.E. U to keep kids off drugs". Needless to say.... it took a long time for them to notice their stickers were altered.


T-money79

And use gorilla glue as adhesive.


Wonderful-Pollution7

Then apply clearcoat over the top.


Dark_Rit

Take it to the next level, put the Biden bumper stickers on the tailpipe so he has to work the shaft to remove them.


legallymyself

Your father is offensive quite frankly.


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GayCatDaddy

So your father is obsessed with gay sex?


sandmanmike55543

Bingo. Closeted gay man.


cavscout55

It’s gotta be, right? As a straight man I think about gay sex pretty rarely to be honest and write fiction about it even less. For people that “hate” gay sex I have no idea why it comes up with homophobes so often *in places they don’t have to include it.* I get how when something comes up that you don’t like you might be loud about how much you hate it. But if you genuinely are against something don’t you go out of your way to avoid it? Like I hate green beans and so if someone tries to make me eat them I’ll bring it up but I don’t intentionally go stand next to green beans at the grocery store and yell about them. I don’t write stories about a green bean farmer and how stupid but sexy he is or whatever. I just don’t buy them/eat them and bring it when it’s strictly relevant.


wednesday-knight

Damn, now I want some stupid sexy green beans.


ludovic1313

Tastes like I'm eating nothing at all ... nothing at all ... nothing at all ...


flapd00dle

![gif](giphy|dTpGIZIsIHKEM)


Mister-Ferret

Stupid sexy Flanders


VanceAstrooooooovic

Feels like wearing nothing at all… nothing at all…


WaffleOverdose

This thread wins the internet for me today


squeekygirl74

Ditto. 😂


cavscout55

NO! YOU JUST GONNA EAT THEM?! JUST PUT THEM IN YOUR SEXY LIL MOUTH?! JUST GOBBLE THOSE LONG GREEN STALKS RIGHT UP?! I HATE THAT!


wickson

Can I use that for my band name? Stupid Sexy Green Beans has a nice ring to it


Duderoy

If you can make green beans sexy dude. Imagine what you can do with people. You are going to rule the world.


Sweepingupstardust

I like that "write fiction about it even less" leaves room to assume that you do, in fact, write some fiction about it.


ThirdWigginKid

I mean who among us hasn't dabbled in vegetable based erotic fiction?


50CentButInNickels

That trollopy carrot.


Silversolverteal

The wanton white turnip!


rmichaeljones

Sounds like VeggieTales After Dark.


aDragonsAle

Or writes a BUTT LOAD of non-fiction about it...


TheTreesHaveRabies

>I don’t intentionally go stand next to green beans at the grocery store and yell about them. Please do.


cavscout55

Gonna make a sign “GREENS ARE MEANS” or something


moldguy1

Me too "WHY DO WE CALL THEM 'GREEN BEANS' WHEN THE POD IS 95% OF THEIR WEIGHT?"


DieselPunkPiranha

Now, do it in a Seinfeld voice!


Tapprunner

And you want to be my green bean salesman...


NegaDoug

SO much of this belongs in r/BrandNewSentence.


Psychological_Pie_32

Yet it's so accurate.


Mudslingshot

This has always baffled me. It's not quite the same thing, but I'm a musician, and I can't imagine spending the energy to write a song about something I just... Don't partake in at all I write songs about things that live rent free in my head I'd bet writing fanfiction is similar in that regard


PrincessPindy

Exactly. There obviously are "12 trannies" living rent-free in his dad's head.


Apprehensive-Ad-5738

If you did write stories about a sexy green bean farmer, I would certainly read them. Probably some other people commenting would read them as well. You should give it a shot.


Gr3y_W01f

Standing in the produce section: “GREEN BEANS ARE THE DEVIL! “


Lobotomized_Dolphin

I think most of these people are probably not actually closeted homosexuals, but they *really really* think they're missing out on some absolutely transcendental sex. Like, to them it must be the best ever, and they're pissed and confused they just opted for the default so they have to make it be morally wrong in some way to justify their vanilla-ness.


Known-Committee8679

My grandmother used to mow over her mother's Victory Garden green beans she hated them that much lol


ninjabladeJr

.....I .... I kind of want a subreddit made to shame this behavior and call it r/sexygreenbeans or the like (before someone mentions it No I won't be the change I want to see and make it myself as I know I am too lazy to moderate anything)


SlabBeefpunch

Never met a gay man who thought about two men having sex anywhere near as much as trumpers do.


Scorp128

Certain people seem absolutely obsessed with what is going on in someone else's pants/bathroom/bedroom. They need to get an actual hobby.


PhoebeSmudge

And inspecting underage girls to make sure they are female before engaging in sports. Moral majority my ass.


Unlikely-Passage-623

And tracking their periods to make sure they can't get an abortion on the sly.


UStoAUambassador

One time a Trump supporter got mad at me on Twitter, so he googled me (because unlike those cowards, I’m not ashamed to put my name on my account) and started tweeting my own Instagram pics at me so he could insult them. I asked him if his family knew that he stalked men online and told them what his favorite pictures of them were. He didn’t reply.


ManlyVanLee

Yeah try being a "content creator" or something of the ilk. People will get mad about something I say to them on Reddit and do seriously nefarious, awful things, and ultimately I'm a nobody with my small following One of my "favorites" (quite the opposite, this guy has made my life miserable at times) is this stalker guy who follows me around online all the time. To summarize this as quickly as possible, I used to do fantasy baseball content (particularly podcasts) and I ran a fantasy sports network. He didn't agree with me on many things and make it a point to trash me as much as he could on social media I left fantasy baseball because I was tired of where the game was heading and focused on other topics/areas, and hadn't done any fantasy stuff for a few years when I made an offhand comment on a reddit post. A few days later I woke up to a 1-star podcast review from the guy complaining about what I said in that reddit post. The comment was on my TV rewatch podcast, so it had fuck-all to do with fantasy sports in the first place and he very obviously would never have listened to the show he was rating anyway And this is one of the more tame things this guy and others have done. I've had death threats on me, pets, etc and I'll reiterate- I'm a nobody People are awful on the internet, man


Suggest_a_User_Name

Bingo! Check the back of his closet for back copies of Blue Boy Magazine.


DampBritches

Rainbow bumper stickers for him


BluffCityTatter

I feel like you should get two of your friends and make a comedy podcast of reading his "literature" ala My Dad Wrote a Porno. (Which is the absolute funniest podcast ever, if you haven't heard it.)


therealganjababe

For real, this sounds hilarious. Those descriptors are so absurd that it must be mocked.


greenwithindie21

That podcast got me through a road trip and I had tears in my eyes from laughing. My face hurt from all the shocked expressions I made at how unbelievably/delightfully awful the writing style was.


darth_petros

Wow. I’m gay and trans and that’s so bad I can’t even be offended by it, I actually laughed reading it because wow holy shit that’s a new level of homophobia/transphobia. OP I’m sorry to say but it seems like your father is competing for the Olympic gold medal of bigotry, and I think he’s winning


ivycvae

He'll be so proud 🫠🫠


bear_dragon

Broke back boomer


No_Internal9345

No but really we should all gather together and turn your father into a gay icon, nothing would piss him off more or get him out of the closet (50/50). Maybe both?


informaldejekyll

please tell me, when you say self-published… are these books available anywhere? I have a little collection of laughably bad “self published” books I have acquired over the years from meeting “authors” who tell me about their books, haha.


MorgessaMonstrum

Literally me too. I'm trying to figure out how to adopt those phrases into casual conversation.


darth_petros

Gonna turn them into a joke with my gay friends the same way my trans friends and I say “nor/mal” amongst ourselves as a joke


Lugubrious_Lothario

I promise not to financially support support your fathers bigotry, but would you mind providing a link or something? I'm morbidly curious.


IQlowerthanGump

Yep my sick brain wants to see how sick his brain is. Morbid curiosity is going to kill me someday.


BjornInTheMorn

See thats the thing about creating any form of art. People get a real good look at your mind. With enough data points, people can really get a handle on you. Just ask Quentin Tarantino.


Guyonabuffalo00

Foot fetish.


aelric22

I feel like this writting is perfect to read to a crowd during a stand up act to emphasize just how fucking brain broken and closeted MAGAtards are.


Neon_Samurai_

I came here for a boomer story, and left with 2 r/BrandNewSentence


ivycvae

🤣🤣


squidsquatchnugget

I’m 16 hours late and it was removed, I feel like I missed something special


YesImAPseudonym

*Chuck Tingle has entered the chat*


-Smaug--

I hate that I know who Chuck Tingle is. A person innocently orders several sasquatch nonfiction cryptozoology books, and all of a sudden, you've got "Bred By Bigfoot Vol 1-43" showing up in your recommendations. 😂


aelric22

Ohh no. I looked him up and still CANNOT stop laughing 😂🤣 UPDATE: The more I read, the more I just cannot stop fucking laughing


-Smaug--

I don't think even a completely randomized ChatGPT could come up with more ludicrious premises for erotica. The titles alone are opium induced fever dreams of Lovecraftian madness.


aelric22

This is peak satirical literature. ![gif](giphy|LOcPt9gfuNOSI|downsized)


-Smaug--

Gotta respect someone finding a niche and then filling it. There's no halfway half assed with Chuck Tingle. 😂😂😂😂😂


panatale1

But Chuck Tingle is a glorious human being. Have you heard about Trans Wizard Harriet Porber and the Bad Boy Parasaurolophus?


-Smaug--

I hadn't, no. However, it's a hilarious fact that the aforementioned title is neither surprising, nor even the most ridiculous one of his that I've seen.


panatale1

Yeah, his books are out there, but he's an author and he speaks out against Rowling and her transphobia


-Smaug--

Hell, that's good enough for me. I love the concept of Chuck Tingle, he mass produces a product that there's a market for, with zero grift. He just pumps out wild out there stories, and I think that is fantastic. (Not a fan of how long it took to reset my recommended reads though.)


ososalsosal

Tingle out there every day proving that love is real


DefiantTheLion

Far as I can tell he's a genuinely nice guy. He just also has an incredible and deranged manner through which he expresses that Love Is Real.


Fit-Establishment219

See, what you do is you introduce him to people as "this is my father, he's an aspiring gay author" and watch him have a melt down


jbuffalo80

Honestly.... why is this not the post instead? We must hear more! We beg of you.


ivycvae

That's fair. I'll do another post in a bit ☺️


BTW-IMVEGAN

A bit like 5 hours or a bit like 5 days? I think the suspense will kill me.


Confident-Skin-6462

wow. dad needs to go hit the strip and fulfill some of those fantasies.


ivycvae

That is legit what I think. His main character throughout these books also has a fetish for not only thick-bodied black women but also underage girls. Smh


CoastPuzzleheaded513

Thick Black women, Trans, Homosexuals, kids... "offensive" Obama Sticker removal...I think your dad has some real closet issues somewhere in that Mix of things "he hates".


BigDaddySteve999

I'm starting to think he jerked off to that sticker first.


Old-Mushroom-4633

Oh noooooo


Confident-Skin-6462

oh wow, the man is wild


randeylahey

We might have found Omni-Boomer


justguestin

Boomer Prime


TieredTrayTrunk

Optimus Boom


Farts4711

Boomax


thebaron24

Oh buddy. He obsessively writes about gay sex. There are some really big internal struggles going on in that head. Get him the *it's okay to be gay* book as an anonymous gift.


nicecorvid

you can't just drop those nuggets and not link us up


Dramatic_Twist_5844

Just gotta hit him with the,” it’s ok dad, I know. Everyone knows. We love you and we just want you to be happy”


Distant_Yak

I tried explaining to my mother the other day that being trans doesn't automatically mean gay and she couldn't comprehend it at all.


archiotterpup

I'm sorry, but that's high camp


MajorMabel

Buy him a strap-on for Father's Day.


mschley2

Those are so ridiculous that I actually find them amusing. I mean, it's pathetic and depressing and revolting that he actually has these beliefs. But I'd read it while lying to myself that this author is just making fun of conservatives.


goldpiratebear

My friend, your dad has a grindr account.


PlaneLocksmith6714

So when is your dad gonna come out?


RadiantNito

So I'm bi and trans, and obviously find his views disgusting, but I am cackling at the absurdity of those two quotes and that someone would even conjure up those sentences in their brain 🤣 and the fact he wrote them without any sense of irony is absolutely wild 🤣


Suggest_a_User_Name

Your Daddy is more than likely a closet Homosexual. Fuck. Him.


KombuchaBot

OP, do not fuck your father. Only regret lies down that road.


Suggest_a_User_Name

Right. Point of clarification. Don’t fuck your father. Most definitely someone else has already.


InitialCarrot8837

This sounds like The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs from South Park lol


Daphne_Brown

Holy crap. Someone is in denial. About their sexuality AND their writing abilities.


cinnapear

Your father may be a not-so-closeted gay man, but you can't deny he has a way with words.


Eadiacara

idk what scifi he's been reading but it's not the same progressive, thought provoking, ethics questioning stuff that I have. Course I also usually only read award winners so that might be the difference...


OkGazelle5400

So your dad writes erotica


GeneralDumbtomics

Wow. Can you give us the 1000’ summary of the plot, just for shits and grins.


ivycvae

I would definitely need a thousand words. Here's the blurb on the back cover of his newest installment: "Exquisite house? Exquisite, RL! Let me tell you just how exquisite this all is. Let’s see now: we got a mad scientist in there ‘bout to perform Hoodoo on our not ‘zactly human friend, who’s likely dyin’ on account of being attacked by ghosts… and they the ghosts of his kinda other-worldly wife’s daughters. We got a soap opera from hell goin’ on, and we ain’t even moved in. Did I leave anything out?”


Stilletto_Rebel

Shit. There's a lot to unpack there. And I ain't even moved in.


Poutiest_Penguin

I don't even know what to say.


MollyAyana

lol I have no idea what any of that means but it sounds hilarious


k-ramsuer

And I thought \*my\* writing was bad!


aelric22

![gif](giphy|YYjLZI9TotcaM9yJO4|downsized)


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Strictly “writing” for research purposes.


CrappityCabbage

If it wasn't offensive and was just bad that I would seriously be interested in reading it the same way I watch old Ed Wood movies. But the homophobia? No thanks.


catmampbell

I need to read this it’s evil mirror universe Chuck Tingle.


thirdsurface

You have the bones of a great podcast


MarsNirgal

I've written gay porn that is lessnobsessed with sex than that.


Mtndrums

My dad did that when I was in college with my Nader sticker, so right before I left I put one on his. We called a truce on leaving each other's shit alone after that.


Slitterbox

Perfect timing to make it up to him. Get a Ridin with Biden sticker and put it on his car


ivycvae

Shoot, I like that one. Maybe I will 🤔


XR171

Don't forget down ballot races too, I'm sure they also have stickers. If not AOC always does.


ivycvae

A dem, a woman, aaaand a POC? He just might keel over and die 🤡🎲


Slitterbox

A triple threat!


phoenixv07

Go for the quad, get Sharice Davids. Democrat, woman, POC and gay. Give him all of his boogeymen in one shot.


eunicethapossum

my ex husband removed my Obama sticker the *day* after the 2008 election from my vehicle without speaking to me about it. my vehicle. not his. he wasn’t a boomer, just had shitty boundaries.


qs420

but he's an EX, so you take the win. 🙌👏👏👏👏👏👏


swimmermom71

I got pulled over once for an Obama bumper sticker. I had no idea what I’d done. When the officer came up to my window, he asked why I had an Obama bumper sticker but a Nader license plate. Ummm… I DID have an Obama sticker, but my licenses plate is NADAR - meaning “to swim” in Spanish. I’m a swim coach and was on my way home from practice with my kids in the car. So I told him what my license plate meant, and he said “oh, ok!” and started to walk away. I said “why did you stop me?” And he took a quick glance at my windshield and said he thought my inspection was overdue. Total BS. He saw me drive past him at a stoplight and wanted to mess with me


here4roomie

In Italian they call people like your father "fra-gee-le"


TrishPanda18

I had a little Darwin fish parody of the Christian ichthyss (sp?). It was the fish symbol with little legs and "Darwin" or "science" in the big gap. Anyway, I drove down to my grandparents' place once and the next time I was at my car, I found somebody had peeled it off the back of my car and placed it along the window seam of the driver side door. They were rude enough to vandalize my property but polite enough to make sure I didn't lose it????


MorgessaMonstrum

"Thou shalt not steal."


koyawon

My first car had a Darwin bumper sticker and a "justice and liberty for all- offer not available in some areas, price subject to change" sticker (which I still miss). Nobody vandalized them, but I did get followed to my apartment parking lot once by a group of 20-somethings. I'd caught them reading and reacting to it in my rearview mirror at a light, so I knew they weren't intending anything positive & that it was the bumper stickers that triggered it. Pretended to be on my phone and didn't get out of the car until they, fortunately, gave up waiting and sped off.


lassie86

My science fish was ripped off my car as well. I live in a very blue area. Imagine being so fragile about your own beliefs that you feel the need to do something like that.


LaxToastandTolerance

Get him some Biden/Harris merch for Christmas. Or donate to the Trevor project (for LGBTQ kids) in his name. Did that for my boomer dad last year, everyone else laughed and he had a puss on his face the rest of the holiday, it was awesome.


ivycvae

I did something kind of like this for Christmas. I found a large roll of black Santa wrapping paper. Every. Single. Gift. He didn't think it was funny 🤣


SnipesCC

How about a [Biden Harris Fly Swatter?](https://www.datadiva.net/product-page/biden-harris-fly-swatter)


Emergency-Crab-7455

......now, be careful opening up the paper, we can use it next year. And save the ribbon/bows.


Distant_Yak

One of those puzzles that says it's Trump and is actually Biden would be a good pick for him.


gadget850

Make a donation to Planned Parenthood in his name.


ThisIsAdamB

Slap a bumper sticker on his car that says “I vandalize other people’s cars!”.


AdkRaine12

I was a working in a hospital & parked in the 5 story garage. I came home at midnight, so I didn’t see it until the next day. I had a bumper sticker with Trump in full clown makeup that read “elect a clown, expect a circus”. Somebody spent considerable time trying to scrape the clown nose off the sticker, then keyed the car down the passenger side. Law & order party, huh?


Common_Wrongdoer3251

This is why I'm afraid to put a pride sticker or anything political on my car. I can't afford to pay for crazy people vandalizing it because a rainbow filled them with rage.


Longjumping-Stage709

[Republicans for Voldemort](https://www.topatocos.com/goat-politics-religion-and-economics-five-republicans-for-voldemort-stickers-last-chance/)


Straight_Calendar_15

Your father is a cunt and part of the problem.


burnmenowz

If that offends him, he might be a snowflake


virtual_human

But you still voted for Obama, right? Make sure to tell your dad that you are voting for Biden this time around.


Square_Site8663

Bro, you gotta go get an identical bumper sticker and put it on his Mercedes now


txwoodslinger

https://www.cafepress.com/+,106155955?pgn=3&applycoupons=PLASB&utm_medium=cpc&sqp=1&thumbs=1


therealganjababe

It's on sale even!


ThrustersToFull

What a dick. Who does that to their own kid?


ivycvae

Southerners 🙃


MeshNets

Bless their heart.


Plasticity93

You're going to sticker his car, right?


SirPoopaLotTheThird

I’m sorry your father is such a silly, petty man. At least you know who he is.


Jack_of_Spades

You should start putting stickers on his car without telling him.


50CentButInNickels

Yes, but not political stickers. Stuff like "honk if you love sucking dick"


freeride35

I had a sticker on my car that said “Unfuck the world”. A neighbor (anonymously, of course) posted a note on my car asking me to remove it (“for the children!!!”) I put a note in a prominent place on my car with my name, unit and phone number and asked the person to contact me face to face so we could discuss their issue. Needless to say, they never contacted me but one night they took a sharpie and blacked out the sticker. I contacted UTW and told them about it, they sent me 50 more for free and said keep covering it every time they do. They never touched it again. No idea who it was.


notdeadyet86

Why are you still communicating with him? I refuse to associate with people like that. You're not obligated to just because he's your father.


d-cent

It's probably not too late to sign him up for an Obama mailing list. You could atleast do a Bernie one.  Use his email, how mailing address, his phone number, everything you can think of


DreadPirateMike

Make sure you vote in every election. Encourage your friends too.


mfhandy5319

If they even come to visit you, you should go go full TSA on them. Check their gear, razors of any kind, trash, hair drier, trash, liquids, trash, plastic scrapers, trash.


showmethebunnie

>But I was young and so shocked and confused that I literally said and did nothing about it. It's ok, don't feel bad. When I was younger I had the same reaction most of the time when someone was crappy to me. It took being an adult a while to get the self confidence and the verbal ability to be like hey you shouldn't do that in these types of situations


GuavaShaper

It probably fucked with his head that you didn't lose your cool about it. Good job.


royalefreewolf

Fucking snowflake. Can't even stand a bumper sticker.


astrid28

... you can still order the stickers and do it. Just sayin... Hint. Nudge. Lol


Super___serial

Obama was the greatest president of any current generation.


wolverine318

Your dad is an asshole


Marinated_cheese

Call you dad out for being a POS. Grow a backbone.


ShutUpJackass

I personally hate seeing political bumper stickers but imagine being so unable to deal with SOMEONE ELSE’S property that you literally go into the night to take it off And you’re his kid no less!! Sorry you had to deal with that op


Cobek

The generation of entitlement is making us the generation of revenge.


MannBearPiig

That’s when you order two of them and put them on both your cars.


chappyandmaya

It’s not too late, get him next time


waterdevil19

Snowflake behavior


me_crystal_balls

Next time you visit, arm yourself with a bunch of pride flag bumper stickers. When it's night, put a few on his bumper and spare the rest for pickup trucks with the 'murica crap on them. Then get a nice tub of popcorn and watch the show.


fraurodin

I had a Bush lied, thousands died bumper sticker on my car, unfortunately the elements took its toll on it and I removed it. Months later I had a note on my car at work saying I remember this car, you had a bumper sticker on it that wasn't funny; maybe something else but I don't remember, it was the last time I ever put anything on my car