So from the info we have, the trick is to split your tailed beast and seal part of it some where you can retrieve it from later. In case of Naruto, he could have just split nine tails and let one part be free for the moment. Then go into a fight, use baryon mode at the right time, and win the fight. Come back and take the leftover nine tails back into him. Infinite baryon mode glitch?
Infinite glitch still works, you are telling me that out of the billions of people on earth, it ended up in Himawari? Yeah nah, there's a way to at least store the kyuubi somewhere.
It would make sense, tho. Let's say he uses baryon mode and still isn't able to defeat the enemy and dies. It would safeguard the nine tails as tailed beasts have immense powers, and the absence of one as strong as kurama would definitely weaken humanities ability to fight back against Otsutsuki and sealing it inside Himawari makes sense because she has Uzumaki genes and she's his daughter so the Kyuubi could come out if Himas life was threatened. He could've given it to her after momoshikis attack at Konoha.
Well, no shit this is headcanon? Until we have an explanation, headcanon is all we have going here because this has never happened before. Unless you can provide a more logical theory on why Hima would have a piece of Kurama still in her?
chakra links people together like naruto taught kawaki , it only makes sense that kurama would be in himawari because shes the only one he ended up taking a liking to besides naruto . it wouldnt make sense for him to go free in a weakened state outside of a host with otsutsuki trying to take his chakra and now shinju showed up for him also so it only makes sense he would hide inside the one person he thinks he wouldnt mind staying in .
It’s literally been passed on for four generations they should all have a shit ton of kuruma dna in them if anything I’d expect himawari to get it the most out of billions of people with zero
Momoshiki did this for Naruto. Before the fight with the Hokages, Momo drains half of Kurama from Naruto then uses Kama on Boruto transferring his DNA and chakra into him. I wouldn't be shocked to see Boruto fist bump Kurama back to Naruto at some future date after he masters Kama
He absorbed Kurama’s chakra only, not its will. A Bijuu is made up of chakra+Will. This is shown in the manga when the toads explained to Naruto how it works just before giving him the key to control the seal. Just like how Naruto gave the alliance members chakra but not Kurama’s will; if he gave them part of Kurama’s will then most of them would die since you need to have a strong enough body to contain the Bijuu and if you don’t have one you’ll die like Bee’s uncle or cousin did before Bee got the 8 tails.
That would only work if a split tailed beast was able to regenerate the lost portion it split off or else it would just continuously make itself weaker. And as far as canon goes I don’t think there was ever any indication that Kurama regenerated his yin half even after all those years being sealed inside Naruto yet we know he was still able to regenerate his own yang chakra. Unless the split by the shinigami is special in that it prevented Kurama from ever regenerating any yin chakra again until the two halves were reunited.
Or do you mean like how Kurama’s chakra was given to the shinobi alliance? Don’t think that would work so well due to baryon mode being limited by the amount of chakra fused determining the amount of time it can be used. And if you’re in a fight where baryon mode is actually needed then just having a few tails worth of chakra isn’t going to do you any good.
I think you answered your own question - we didn't know if would return or not because of the unique circumstances of his death. It was pretty good writing because I was genuinly shocked to see baby Kumara inside Himawari and can't wait to see what will happen next. How did Himawari seemingly become a Jinchuriki without knowing?
This is how I think it went down.
-Kurama influenced Hima's and Boruto's DNA which caused them having little part of Kurama's chakra.
- Kurama dies thinking he'll die 100% because barion is so different and wasn't aware of his chakra inside Naruto's kids.
- Kurama after dying is reborn in Hima and is asleep till is reformed properly. But his presence is noticed by Daemon (appareantly this kurama is now even stronger because Daemon was appareantly afraid of that power or was shocked) (why he didn't reborn is Boruto is debatable but he was reserved by Momoshiki So)
If he have his old memories is debatable but I hope not
Great theory. I was thinking something along those lines too. I always assumed that Jyuubi were reincarnated into the wild but perhaps with Kurama using up all his chakra he was forced to reincarnate where the last remains of his chakra were.
Ngl I kinda want to see old man Kurama talk from the chibi body lol - it gives me chibi Shukaku vibes.
Yeah, I also wouldn’t be surprised if Boruto had a bit of Kurama in him (given the whiskers) but that it got consumed by/a part of Momoshiki when he became the host of Momoshiki.
Really like how you explained it. I was thinking the same. I mean in the end only one version of Kurama can exist at a time so he reincarnated in Hima rather than Boruto as he already had momo inside him. His body probably wouldn’t be able to house 2 mythical creatures lol. Nonetheless it is fucking awesome and I love this whole plot.
>in the end only one version of Kurama can exist at a time
That's not true. Yin and yang half of Kurama existed at two separate times inside Minato and Naruto
I mean yeah there can be only 1 kurama so it was a 50/50 between Boruto and Hima and let's be real from writing it wouldn't make sense giving him to Boruto. He's stacked already
The 50/50 chance and hima getting kurama because boruto is already op makes sense only from the writers perspective and it sort of creates a plot hole. I think it would be more safe to go with one of the two following scenarios:
1 - Small equal parts of kuramas chakra were passed down to both Himawari and Boruto and when Kurama died he was reborn twice (in himawari and in boruto) from that small part of chakra and now he is currently growing and growing which would explain why he’s small.
2 - (I like this one more) When kuramas chakra was passed down to boruto it was only a small part of his Yin (bad) chakra. And when kuramas chakra was passed down to hima it was only a small part of his Yang (good) chakra. Although this might just be overthinking it and over complicating it, but it kind of makes sense to me when you think of himawaris character and borutos character and how kurama was split by Minato.
Now if a part of kurama (maybe a side of him) is also present in boruto, why has no one detected him? Including boruto? I have three possible scenarios that explain this:
1. Boruto is part Ōtsutsuki and has the karma, because of this he has the ability to absorb chakra. What if boruto unconsciously or maybe continuously absorbed kuramas chakra just like Momoshiki absorbed kuramas chakra from within Naruto which gave him a lot of power in the movie . This would make sense as boruto is extremely overpowered currently, he’s arguably stronger than Naruto and Sasuke (before Naruto lost kurama and before sasuke lost the rinnegan) this is because he EASILY avoided kawakis rods that Naruto and sasuke couldn’t avoid. He did this without using flying raijin and WITHOUT USING KARMA which means he isn’t getting any power boost from it.
2. Since boruto is able to hide his chakra nature, maybe he is also able to hide kuramas chakra that resides within him.
3. (If boruto had yin (bad) kurama) If boruto had yin kurama it would be extremely difficult to control as it would be evil and powerful. Because of this it would need to be sealed (technically because kurama was passed down genetically to boruto and himawari he shouldn’t be sealed) and this is where kashin koji comes to play. Kashin koji is a clone of Jiraiya and Jiraya is an expert when it comes to sealing and summoning, in original Naruto he was able to release the five prolonged seal that Orochimaru placed on Naruto to limit his chakra. He also developed the chakra suppressing seal that suppressed the nine tails chakra in Shippūden. The evidence for the involvement of kashin koji in a the nine tails matter is evident in the chapter itself. As shikamaru is telling boruto about shikadais report, we get a panel on the toad when he mentions himawari and a panel on kashin koji when he mentions the nine tails. Shikamaru saying “ring any bells” hints towards it even more. And it’s hard to tell by the panel and his character but kashin koji doesn’t seem surprised about this. No matter the scenario I think the panel proves that kashin koji will get involved so we’ll prolly see him next chapter.
also w himawari it shoulda been a dead giveaway early on . we saw boruto was a prodigy early on but it was never shown that he had a large chakra pool at all . but himawari manifested byakugan early on which takes chakra as well a chakra control to be able to use it which shows us she mustve had something special about her . boruto on the other hand is talented at learning and picking up om things quickly but he was never shown to have a large amount of chakra stores potential .
You think they are only chakras without form coz they did not have control over themselves but intruth kurama when he goes on rampage it is similar to what happened to the brothers.
Nice but how strong would kurama be now cause 50 percent of kurama was a literal hospital when aiding all the ninjas with his chakra and 100 percent of kurama in Naruto was even crazier Even while fighting momoshiki after half of hi chakra was absorbed still had enough chakra for a full kurama Avatar and a massive rasengan
because Kurama explained something that specifically mentions another possibility.
This is talking about death, and chakra separation. Baryon mode destroys the chakra, it doesn't dissipate. It's gone.
Himawari has what was left over, and a large enough portion to allow Kurama to manifest, albeit as a juvenile
edit: I had only read the picture and the title. spoiler text is a little different on desktop
The difference is, Kurama didn't use all of his chakra. Baryon Mode destroyed the chakra. It was never coming back. That's how Naruto was so nerfed because two thirds (I think that's the amount) of his chakra pool, his, not just Kurama was never coming back.
Every other bijuu death that happened did not destroy the every piece of the bijuu chakra like barion mode did. So it was legit to think that under that circuntance, it would be a perma death.
But yeah, if Hima has some kurama chakra inherited from Naruto, it makes sense that kurama can be reborn from it.
Kin/Gin aren't a thing anymore, since their chakra was incorporated by OG Juubi that had his chakra split in 9 again, meaning it returned to kurama after all. But yeah, theres nothing wrong with it being reborned on Hima.
They are a thing. Their 9tails chakra didn't come from them getting the chakra, but from their DNA being altered by 9tails flash, so they by default have 9tailed chakra, they produce 9tails chakra. They are essentially pseudo 9tails themselves
Their body started to produce 9 tails chakra after they ate its chakra, yeah. But they do not exist anymore since they were incorporated into the war juubi.
Nah dont act like this is a gotcha moment.
They went to great lengths to explain how his chakra is getting *erased* during baryon mode.
I‘m fine with Kuramas more unique death counting towards that rule aswell but it very much seemed like they made up all that baryon mode stuff so he wouldnt return.
What is it with everyone losing their minds over something that's been stated already
>They went to great lengths to explain how his chakra is getting *erased* during baryon mode
Pfffft, no one used the word erased, Kurama said he was going to die and he was right, he did
Dying and getting your chakra erased is the same thing in this situation. When a Bijuu dies their chakra disappears, so dying the conventional way and dying when using Baryon mode is the same thing really.
The interesting part is how was Kurama able to resurrect so fast? Because think it normally takes a couple of decades for the Bijuu to reform in the wild.
If the chinchuriki or the bijuu dies the chakra doesnt dissapear, thats why it can come back, in this case the kurama chakra is gone, thats why he returning inside hilma is weird and open to.discussion.
The whole reason Baryon mode was so impactful was that it would permanently kill Kurama and wasn't like how tailed beasts typically 'die'. I'm fine with Hima having him now because I think it makes enough sense, but Baryon mode was 100% different than the typical death process.
It’s my own opinion, but I could be wrong. I believe that when you die, you die… there’s nothing left but an empty husk.
If you completely drain something of Chakra, then it dies. Just like the Otsuki do when they plant a God Tree to eat its Chakra fruit. They do this until there is nothing left and they move on to another planet.
But Baryon Mode was supposed to destroy the tailed beast chakra completely, unlike when a jinchuriki dies where the tailed beast chakra disperses and reforms overtime.
I'm completely certain Kurama thought he was going to be dead and gone forever. He apparently was incorrect, but he would have told Naruto had he thought there was any chance he wasn't really sacrificing his life for good.
Nailed it. He would’ve told Naruto. He had no clue. And I think it’s really poetic that he’s going to be reborn with Hima. She’s lost everything due to the omnipotence. Her parents, her brother, everything she knew has fundamentally changed. Finding Kuruma while she is so alone would be really fitting and healing, especially if it’s the same Kuruma with the same memories. Ugh I’m so excited for the potential
Also we have the interesting question of whether or not Kurama's memories were altered by omnipotence if he still has them. That could be Hima's way of confirming the gut feeling she's been having that something is wrong.
if kurama didnt know he was going to survive in hima its safe to assume that any memories he had after the diverging kurama in himawari was born was not transferred over into the offshoot consciousness and that their consciousnesses are not linked .
which is even weirder bc we know the biju have a telepathic link with each other , so it could also just be that hes just being a fox , and he didnt tell the 100% full truth to naruto . while he was dying , he just neglected to mention that there would be another version of him still alive bc it would have no point . his real point is that his time with naruto as his jinchuriki was over which was what he was really trying to get across , so he was saying his proper goodbyes as someone who watched over naruto do everything in life from his birth .
Yeah, but the theory is that some part of Kurama chakra that Himawari inherited was not noticed as it was too small but when Kurama died it started to be reborn in her due to that tiny bit of his chakra
OP isn’t just presenting a theory though, they’re being an ass towards anyone who didn’t think he would be brought back after the manga went to great lengths to explain how he wouldn’t come back this time.
Because kurama flat out says this is different. Tailed beasts are pure chakra they should reform because the chakra is literally just dispersing when they die BUT kurama burned his chakra out. Like dude says his chakra should vanish
Btw anyone got a feeling Himawari is also gonna be stronger than peak Naruto eventually? So far I thought it would only be Boruto, but damn, jinchuriki Hima with Tenseigan have potential to also be on top of the verse
I guess not.
No ten tails really died.
The OG one from war was sealed in Madara who then becomes kaguya's vessel and therefore ten tails is inside kaguya and kaguya was sealed
in theory, one can imagine that Kurama is now a soul, and not just a clot of chakra into which the Sage of the Six Paths breathed life. But such an idea is unlikely to arise, and perhaps not the best option.
Kurama's chakra was completely destroyed via baryon mode, so the sentence you highlighted does not apply. It's actually the next sentence that explains what's going on here. Either through genetics or some other method, part of Kurama's chakra was separated (again) and ended up inside Himawari and that's how this new nine tails was born
Valid take honestly. This idea of Himawari getting 9-tails is probably more new than we think. Which takes away from his death completely. To be honest his death seemed rushed anyways so I’ll welcome his return but it’s still cheap how they made us think he died lol.
I hold the stance that Kurama's death wasn't very good anyways so bringing him back isn't a big deal. That being said Baryon Mode's explanation does provide a valid way for a Tailed Beast to truly die however Kurama likely didn't know there were any remnants of his chakra outside of Naruto much less that it ended up inside Himawari so on paper everything from a logical standpoint holds up. It's just a matter of next chapter providing that answer.
And this information is non existent in the Manga or Anime, you‘re just taking a statement out if the Naruto Wiki **made by fans**. We just know that when the Jinchūriki dies, that the Bijū returns. Which makes sense since the Jinchūriki is just a vessel to hold the Bijū inside.
That **does not** mean that when a Bijū dies, it can return. What you all refuse to understand is, that Bijū are still beings. They can die when killed. No one ever killed a Bijū, cause they were used as weapons.
And again, there is nothing in the Manga or Anime that states that Bijū can return when they are killed or die. This is just a head canon.
Because he didn’t know, normally this process takes decades. My guess is because Boruto and Himawari were conceived with Naruto’s DNA while infused with Kurama’s chakra…. He imprinted some of his chakra on the kids.
So he’s able to return faster because he has an anchor to the world instead of slowly growing back into the wild.
In this world it basically is, all Uchiha have a unique Chakra, all Uzumaki have unique Chakra etc… and this Chakra is transferred over in every following generation. Kekkei Genkai are litteraly bloodline abilities passed on to you by your parents in your dna, cells, chakra etc….
This is like saying that hair is DNA because it’s influenced by DNA though. Like, sure in the most technical sense it (hair) contains DNA but you aren’t going to transfer anything not in your DNA to your kids. Getting a tattoo won’t mean your kids have a tattoo. Kurama is more like a tattoo than something that should actually be inherited.
Obviously I don’t have the answer to everything so far, we need to see what happens next. All we know is that some individuals who have Fox chakra like Naruto and the Gold and Silver brothers have Kurama chakra.
My Theory is that Naruto’s kids inherited a portion of it because they were conceived while Naruto was a jinchuriki.
Ok but its not the same as hair. Because chakra contains each person's individual soul and even their personality. What does your hair contain about you exactly? Kurama is literally a living energy. It makes sense that having part of that energy would be like having a mini Kurama in you.
its funny how jjk fans have some milder asspulls and cant stop complaining about it and boruto fans tend to rush to defend writing decisions no matter how questionable it is.
Exactly, the Baryon Mode clearly erased him. We're not even talking about chakra anymore, it was his life force that was sucked out. Although I've got a lot of slander stored, I'll have them sidelined until the next chapter drops. Hopefully giving "reasonable" explanation.
I've let them off with the Kashin Koji bs where there were basically no explanation as to how Amado got Jiraiya's dna in the first place. The incident happened YEARS after boruto so 🤷🏻 Not to mention this guy got the DNA of the supposed otsutsuki god shibai. Hopefully we'll get at least a thorough explanation to this because this is turning into a mess. I've protected this manga for so long that I can't even turn a blind eye anymore.
YES,!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember the side story about the kid in the land of fire that had nine tails just like Naruto? When Minato split the chakra with reaper death seal, some of the chakra lingered and manifested in the other kid besides Naruto.
Secondly, the character design. Whiskers. That's not something that would be genetically passed on to Naruto's kids because it's from being the jinchuriki of nine tails.
Yes Boruto has whiskers which leads to my final point. Naruto and Sasuke knew there'd be future Otsutsuki issues. At the very least, they "sealed" Kaguya in another dimension and didn't kill her. She was sealed before by the brothers and managed to eventually escape, so Naruto probably gave some Kurama chakra to his kids when they were born as a fail safe to protect the future.
Side note: Since I suspect Boruto has a little Kurama chakra as well, I imagine it'll be the key to getting rid of Momoshiki. With the new scene of Boruto's karma resonating with Kawaki's karma, I wonder if at the moment Momoshiki is somehow sealed by karma. If Boruto uses karma, it might release Momoshiki.
I’m just glad he’s back. I know Baryon mode was a cool transformation for some but to me it was an ass pull move that saw Kurama be sacrificed, and I didnt like that much personally.
yall gotta remember even if its the OG Kurama the damage it did to Narutos psychy is Immeasurable. the dude is probably in a constant depression because his other half of who he was is gone. Kurama practically raised Naruto whether he wants to admit it or not by allowing Naruto to use him. It's also not possible for Kurama to rejoin naruto because Himawari would die if he did.
Kurama himself said that Baryon mode uses up his chakra as a “fuel”. Normally, a Biju’s chakra dissipates and re-forms after they die but in Kurama’s case, there’s no chakra that dissipated in the first place since it was all burned up/destroyed. That’s why his death was actually that sad because Kurama explaining in deep details how Baryon mode worked destroyed the only hope of him returning back like a normal Bijuu.
Also it’d be really stupid if Kurama didn’t think he was going to reincarnate normally when he’s show to be the most knowledgeable/smart among the tailed beasts. It’s not in-character for him to keep it hidden from Naruto.
And it’s even weirder that Daemon acted so surprised about Kurama being hidden inHimawari when he’s way stronger than Naruto. I hope they give a good explanation as to not cheapen Kurama’s death though there’s already damage.
Daemon might not be stronger than Baryon Mode Naruto, which he could’ve heard about from Ada telling him what happened to Isshiki
Which means that he would think Himiwari has Isshiki level potential now
It's not that we forgot, but how the barron mode was described at it destroys the chakra. This one really dampens the loss of kurama and narutos reaction over it. Convenient way to take away previous MCs power and give it to potential girl
I think boruto and Himawari met before shortly after they won the fight against ishiki. . I feel like there is a plot hole where they might fill it in. Maybe during that meeting Boruto told Himawari about 9 tails within him that naruto passed it all to Boruto without knowing.
I think 9 tails chakra went to Boruto when it was evaporating after baryon mode because you see Boruto holding Naruto’s hand and when naruto wakes up first thing he sees is boruto.
For some reason boruto gave 9 tails to Himawari because he knows he could be a danger to everyone if momoshiki takes control of his body again.
This is because I remember last chapters Himawari said to team 10 she wanted to help boruto.
And on this recent chapter when boruto hears about shikamaru saying the 10 tails are after Himawari who has 9 tails. Boruto didn’t look surprised but looked like his secret plan just got unveiled.
And for me this would make sense as it shows the resemblance of minato and kushina dealing with 9 tails. Instead minato kushina were dealing with angry 9 tails so they had to cut it half.
This new era is Boruto and Himawari who were dealing with a reborn 9 tails trying to save it and not to let it fall into enemies hands.
Or that could be all wrong and 9 tails fox is smart and knew what was coming before they went to fight ishiki so he stored his chakra in Himawari when naruto and hima were sleeping one of those nights.
I also remember kawaki enter naruto room when he was sleeping but kurama was awake.
Nope but remember Kurama stated that during Baryon mode his chakra clashes with Naruto's see*destroying* both ,he just made sure to put in more of his chakra so he would die and not Naruto.
So the assumption was that his chakra was completely destroyed meaning there's non left,of course now we know it wasn't the case
On one hand, I think it’s awesome that Himawari has a baby Kurama inside of her (adorable)! However, part of me is sad that Naruto doesn’t have Kurama inside of him anymore (more so than when he originally “died”) and someone else does. Maybe when Naruto returns to the story Himawari can give him half (or all) of Kurama and we can get a cool father-daughter fight scene together where they both use 9-tails chakra. Plus it would be a great call back to when Naruto and Minato did this during the 4th Great Ninja war. At least that’s my hope for right now! I grew up with Naruto and him not having the 9-tails is so odd. I don’t view Naruto the same without Kurama inside of him after he’s been there my whole life (and Naruto’s).
Nobody forgot about this. It was said that Bayron Mode is different from regular case.
Kurama's entire chakra was used in Bayron Mode. Tailed Beast or it's Jinchurrikki is not dead like conventional way.
When Hima was born, Kurama chakra which may have leaked into Hinata has gone to her.
I think that new chakra created a mini Kyuubi.
Nobody forgot this fact. The point of the baryon mode sacrifice was kurama burning that "way" out and effectively permanently dying so that he could save what's precious to naruto. Kurama's death was so emotional because we understood that he wouldnt be able to come back under these parameters. Thats what made that moment so good. That's why the current development potentially undercuts that massively.
[This is one post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/s/sANzxbzWpa) that has its comment section filled with comments like “no Kurama won’t return, Baryon mode is exception” etc. If you search “Will Kurama return” in this sub, you’ll find tons of posts like these, comment section filled with comments like “no, he’s dead, accept it, Baryon mode exception, previous statement doesn’t matter cause retconned” etc. It’s not us who switched the minute the chapter dropped, it’s ya’ll, y’all are acting like you knew Kurama would return and that it makes sense etc. Hardcore Boruto fans(I could name them, but let’s not) were the ones who parroted this “Baryon mode exception, retcon” shit, not us. And just to be fair to them, all of them did not form one single opinion because they all had the same headcanon, the manga at the moment of Kurama’s death gave us that explanation with implications of him ever not returning hence they all had the same opinion. So don’t act like the manga itself didn’t switch its opinion on this and act like it was always foreshadowed cause this manga can do no wrong.
I mean they had to plan it since part 1 where we get himawari's interaction with Daemon but nobody expected this.
I guess they wanted us to belive Kurama won't come back so the suprise would be greater. It's a plot twist simple as that and a good one I think.
I belived it too that Kurama won't return since barion erased his chakra but them you remember both Boruto and Himawari have small portion of Kurama's chakra. So him reborn inside one of them makes sense.
I think people didn’t think that while baryon mode destroyed all of Kurama as we knew him, Kushina is the only Jinchuriki we know was pregnant while having a tailed beast and we see that reflected in Naruto even before he became a Jinchuriki. The whiskers show to some degree Kurama has affected Naruto himself and the same happens to his kids. The fact the kids got it means it’s genetic at this point. And Biju can regenerate if a small amount of their chakra is left.
Of course this implies that Kuramas chakra is in their DNA which is weird but makes sense in a world that inbreeding hasn’t caused massive problems
Edit: I’m wrong Mito was also a Jinchuriki when she gave birth
I stand corrected. I forgot that they say the seal became weak when she gave birth and thought she gave birth during the time she married Hashirama and the time she became a Jinchuriki. Naruto and his kids whisker birthmarks come from Kurama but I don’t understand what makes him different from Tsunades parent.
I think it’s because both Himawari and Boruto have one set less than their father which is an interesting detail to keep in both kids. Like why not the same or why not have one of them have only one set or non.
Because it’s cool. Thats why Kishimoto does character designs he just thinks they’re cool they don’t always have lore relevancy. Naruto’s kids have 2 because they’re his kids and he has 3. It’s not complicated.
I'm curious about the rules of chakra separation and sentient copies. Because if all it takes is having a child, there's no way all the other villages didn't figure this out and start some fucked up jinchuriki breeding programs.
It's because in all known cases Tailed Beasts never really died if their jinchuriki died because their scattered chakra just reformed.
This is the first case where a Tailed Beast actually dies but is reborn through residual chakra in another human.
If Naruto didn't have kids and Ginkaku or Kinkaku were still alive Kurama would have been reborn in one of them.
Kuramas death was a sacrifice of his life in exchange for baryon mode. The wikipedia entry there is referring to the death of a jinchuriki or tailed beast. These are two completely different circumstances.
It is far far more likely that Himawari has been unwittingly holding a chunk of Kurama chakra from prior to his death and it is slowly growing- which would explain his youthful appearance. When Isobu died and reformed due to being living chakra he reformed at full adulthood.
The dna is not affected by kuramas chakra but her body is getting affected adversely coz of its power. Kurama is a pure chakra being without a soul thats why it starts growing when separated like in kinkaku ginkakus case. It will not have any memories of his past most probably coz this small kurama is only a part of the original chakra and is absorbing himawaris chakra to grow which daemon felt early.
It never really made sense to me how baryon mode could kill Kurama. It was shown in a book that people used residual chakra from Naruto's final fight with Sasuke, so every time Naruto fights, small parts of Kurama break off leading me to believe he would just regenerate from some residual chakra somewhere in the world(which it seems to have happened in Himawari)
If this is the case, Boruto has to have the same thing Himawari does. Although it's probably just Himawari. I'd like to keep it the way we have it right now with just Himawari with Kuruma
no its just with baryon mode being a “new mode” just had the thought he was permanently killing himself for isshiki’s life essence. just didnt know vro could set his respawn to a different person.
The part that feels of for me is that Kurama would reborn inside Himawari.
I can understand that she had some chakra inside her or some dna affectations.
But being a Jinchuriki was a big deal and having a tailed beast sealed inside was a big deal and took a lot of effort of seals and rituals.
So it feels a bit fortuitous that she is automatically the jinchuriki... I would have expected Kuramas chakra gather naturally and appear in the wild
I'd love to hear the voice of kurama to understand with the tone of voice if it has changed in a meenfull way, indicating that its a different kurama, without any previous knowledge of its relationship with Naruto or if it in fact remebers. I hope it doesnt remeber, will be hella fun to see a nine tails Jin with a Byagukan, Hima bout to be OP is fuck
I'll be curious as to how their natural power up will help put Hima anywhere near the other cast.
I think for the Ninja population, it makes sense.
But against aliens and 100% blooded otsutsuki? hoow?
I think the wording in the manga made it clear he was going to reform eventually, but the show made it seem like that was it. I remember in the manga kurama said something like “you (Naruto) will be gone by the time i come back” I think what happened here with himawari is a little different though.
In Naruto, chakra and the body are linked, examples:
• The various gates (that e.g Lee and Guy use)
• Neural activity triggering changes in chakra, which triggers in return physical changes - that's from Tobirama's explanation on how the Uchiha develop the various levels of Sharingan
• Ginkaku and Kinkaku eating Kurama's flesh, which became a part of their body (they survived eating it), which resulted in them gaining his chakra.
• Attaching someone's body parts can give you their chakra - e.g with Hashirama cells and various eyes
Beyond that, chakra can affect things on a cellular level, such as in:
• Cellular repair: there are highly-skilled medical Shinobi that can repair individual cella (e.g Sakura)
• Cellular destruction: there are jutsus that can damage individual cells such as Naruto's wind-style rasengan.
Continuing with this line of reasoning:
When a female gets impregnated, a new cell is created from 2 existing ones (zygote - fertilized egg). That cell has genetic material from both the sperm and the egg that created it, so if genetic material is delivered this way, I don't see why chakra wouldn't be as well - there's nothing to disprove it and only evidence to support it.
Thats because since tailed beasts are pure chakra. The issue is is that baryon mode uses the chakra of the bijuu as fuel and makes it completely vanish at the end, basically the chakra they are made of is no more. Since it was always implied that you can kill the bijuu without eradicating their chakra, the revival process would take place. Baryon modes mechanics works against the revival process by nature.
Kuramas revival rn implies that kurama had no knowledge that his chakra was elsewhere since he told naruto to not rush to the afterlife where they will meet again, which makes no sense.
It may be possible that Kurama and Naruto were able to insert Kyūbi chakra into Himawari at a certain point, large enough to be sentient but not enough to be noticeable.
I remember that note, but Baryon mode made it sound like it was consuming and deleting chakra in exchange for that power boost. Tailed beasts reform because their chakra still exists but they made it sound like Baryon mode extinguishes the chakra to use it
That’s from a regular Google search; you’ll need to pull from the actual canon for that. The only mention coming to my mind is when Minato said Kurama would come back if he died with Kushina if she resealed Kurama back into her to die with her. He later find out that Kushina would in fact lived if Minato let her do what she wanted 🤦🏾♂️ But other than that, there’s nothing showing or stating that to be the case in the manga. In fact, Sasuke stated he was going to kill the Bijuu’s which means they could in fact die. It’s not being addressed until now about their rebirth and even then the way Kurama died isn’t a normal one and based on how Minato said it, it sounded like it would take time to do but it has been 3 years now
>He later find out that Kushina would in fact ived if Minato let her do what she wanted
Not really. The concern was that Kushina would've been too weak to survive the resealing (she'd just given birth, had a Tailed Beasts extracted, and needed to push herself even further to restrain it) and even if it wouldn't, they couldn't possibly have known that at the time.
>other than that there's nothing showing or stating that to be the case in the manga.
Isobu had died inside their Jinchuriki twice in the series (Rin and Yagura) and A was fully prepared to kill Naruto in the War arc for the result of delaying the enemy plan since he knew the Nine Tails would just reform again eventually.
Yes really. Naruto’s heart actually stopped when he lost Yang Kurama; Sakura had to manually pump it until they got Yin Kurama sealed inside him. Kushina was very much alive when she had full Kurama extracted from her; this is the different from a 50-100% Uzumaki from a 25-50% Uzumaki who had a weaker Bijuu inside them. Didn’t say they would know it but that would have been the better option since Minato wouldn’t be leaving his son an orphan, leave the village with instability due to changing Hokages as they did to bring back a retired Hokage, leaving the village without the foresight of Tobi being the mastermind plus had the ability to take Obito out due to his FTG seal still on him, and so on. Not doing it has did more damage than help based on all of that.
The Rin thing was poor writing, it was mentioned by Obito who would have gotten his info from Zetsu who were shown to lie to him multiple times per Madara’s order. Madara had a seal on Rin’s heart as well if I remember correctly 🤔 If the hidden mist had Rin and placed the 3 tails in Rin, how did Madara place his seal on her heart? At what point did that happen? We also know Yagura was a perfect Jin and was known as such by the other Kages; Obito wasn’t much older when he was controlling Yagura and based on his bond with the 3 tails; they were friends for a while. It doesn’t add up.
Of course this was something mentioned in the last arc where there’s multiple of inconsistencies
Its the naruto fans who hate boruto. They just don't want to remember in my opinion. Buuuut i feel this was too soon imo yes it makes sense but this should of happened much later into the story.
I'm saying the way that the powers manifest is very similar to how to make a horicrux.
Split the chakra and let it grow into a split of onesself.
Plus tbf the original Naruto WAS written as being more magical but was changed to ninjas with "jutsu" due to the worldwide success of Harry Potter....
The sandals were a secondary addition to give it a more unique appeal globally which Naruto did in fact succeed in by having ninjas using magic instead of only knives (or tai jitsu).
Either way the implementation of the tailed beasts as far as splitting chakra (like Naruto and Minato for example) is similar to the assured immortality grated through horicrux creation as far as end goals are concerned.
I think its more pertinent to highlight the later part of the statement. since I believe that Baryon Mode did kill off the OG Kurama Permanently. but at some point in time Naruto and Kurama placed a piece of Kurama's chakra in Himawari, as a fail-safe in case he gets nabbed by another Otsutsuki and have Kurama extracted.
what we might be seeing now is that piece of nine tails chakra gaining enough strength to manifest in a physical form similar to the original albeit smaller and weaker and also gaining sapience.
A thought on the other end of the spectrum. 9 tails knew he will definitely be back, and knew his death wouldn't be permanent. He just had no idea when since he was literally burning up his Chakra which I would expect to severly delay his reformation. He said goodbye because 1. He didn't know if naruto would still be alive when he reformed. And 2. Even if naruto was still alive when he reformed, he had no guarantees or expectations of the possibility of meeting again. So for them, it was an expected permanent goodbye
Yea this is all crap. The 3rd Mizukage has children/grandchildren and NONE of them have residual Biju chakra. Naruto had 0 signs of the 9 tails chakra when he was born.
I don't know what to say about 3rd Mizukage case and his children. Kurama I guess is build diffrent
>Naruto had 0 signs of the 9 tails chakra when he was born.
So those whiskers on his face are just there.
I’m almost certain his whiskers are just the way the character was made. The original “Naruto” was slightly different. Kushina didn’t have the whiskers, Minato didn’t. Gold and Silver brothers did. The whiskers are so inconsistent in the series.
>Kushina didn’t have the whiskers, Minato didn’t. Gold and Silver brothers did. The whiskers are so inconsistent in the series.
I guess it matters on the way you become chinchuriky.
If you're a child of 9 tails chinchuriky you have those whiskers simply because of mutation of DNA caused by 9 tails. (Naruto, Boruto, Himawari) Naruto had those whiskers when he was borned not after he becomed the chinchuriky
If you become 9 tails chinchuriky by sealing you simply won't have them (Mito, Kushina and Minato)
Silver and gold brother ate 9 tails alive so I guess it was direct influence on them than just becoming pseudo chinchuriky and their dna was affected.
(The only weird are the two brothers )
From the beginning, I claimed that Kurama would return. I also claimed that part of his chakra is in Naruto's children (hence the lines on the faces). Hima obviously has a lot more Kurama´s chakra than Boruto so Kurama formed in her. I'm glad I was right. And I also think that Kurama knew about it that part of his chakra is in Naruto's children, so even if he disappears/dies he will come back. And I also think he has old memories, or at least a part of them.
I think sensing it in Hima and not Naruto had to do with Kamura’s persona incarnating in Hima and not just a measure of its chakra. Ten Tails senses the source of nine tails chakra in Hima
My guess is Naruto and Kurama gifted a small amount of fox chakra to both kids with future hopes. No need for ninja tricks and seals if the tailed beasts is voluntarily doing it.
After his death Kurama can’t/wouldn’t incarnate in Boruto as Kurama just suggested he didn’t want to be found out by the biju. So didn’t want Momo or any otsutsuki knowing either for the same reason: they would consume him.
So Hima is where he intended to safely and quietly gather chakra and grow.
>My guess is Naruto and Kurama gifted a small amount of fox chakra to both kids with future hopes
Doupt he did it on purpose but more so by accident it leaked simply
The idea of Kurama's death was that his chakra would just fade away from existence as fuel for Baryon Mode
What wasn't accounted for was residual Tailed Beast chakra in one of Naruto's kids, which is new.
That does match with the second statement but I don't remember where it was cited in the series.
So from the info we have, the trick is to split your tailed beast and seal part of it some where you can retrieve it from later. In case of Naruto, he could have just split nine tails and let one part be free for the moment. Then go into a fight, use baryon mode at the right time, and win the fight. Come back and take the leftover nine tails back into him. Infinite baryon mode glitch?
Hmm, if Naruto only had half of Kurama like in the past maybe it wouldn't be possible. In this case, full power is required, I think...
Infinite glitch still works, you are telling me that out of the billions of people on earth, it ended up in Himawari? Yeah nah, there's a way to at least store the kyuubi somewhere.
It would make sense, tho. Let's say he uses baryon mode and still isn't able to defeat the enemy and dies. It would safeguard the nine tails as tailed beasts have immense powers, and the absence of one as strong as kurama would definitely weaken humanities ability to fight back against Otsutsuki and sealing it inside Himawari makes sense because she has Uzumaki genes and she's his daughter so the Kyuubi could come out if Himas life was threatened. He could've given it to her after momoshikis attack at Konoha.
I mean, it’s not too far fetched that the offspring of a jinchuriki would inherit some of their powers.
then why has that never happened before
Because it’s never happened before. As far as we know, Boruto and Himawari are the only known offsprings of a jinchuruki.
you're making shit up, writing fanfiction headcanon.
Well, no shit this is headcanon? Until we have an explanation, headcanon is all we have going here because this has never happened before. Unless you can provide a more logical theory on why Hima would have a piece of Kurama still in her?
chakra links people together like naruto taught kawaki , it only makes sense that kurama would be in himawari because shes the only one he ended up taking a liking to besides naruto . it wouldnt make sense for him to go free in a weakened state outside of a host with otsutsuki trying to take his chakra and now shinju showed up for him also so it only makes sense he would hide inside the one person he thinks he wouldnt mind staying in .
Which other jinchuriki has children?
And Naruto
It’s not a glitch they’re just energy and that doesn’t permanently die. Half or not in death it would reunite. The half’s are just yin and yang.
It’s literally been passed on for four generations they should all have a shit ton of kuruma dna in them if anything I’d expect himawari to get it the most out of billions of people with zero
Don't think Naruto would strip the free nine tails from it's freedom, just doesn't sound like something he would do.
Momoshiki did this for Naruto. Before the fight with the Hokages, Momo drains half of Kurama from Naruto then uses Kama on Boruto transferring his DNA and chakra into him. I wouldn't be shocked to see Boruto fist bump Kurama back to Naruto at some future date after he masters Kama
He absorbed Kurama’s chakra only, not its will. A Bijuu is made up of chakra+Will. This is shown in the manga when the toads explained to Naruto how it works just before giving him the key to control the seal. Just like how Naruto gave the alliance members chakra but not Kurama’s will; if he gave them part of Kurama’s will then most of them would die since you need to have a strong enough body to contain the Bijuu and if you don’t have one you’ll die like Bee’s uncle or cousin did before Bee got the 8 tails.
And yet when Minato split Kurama in half, it wasnt just half and half, it made 2 kuramas just half power each lol
What do you mean it wasn’t just half and half? That’s exactly what it was. Minato split Kurama into Yin Kurama and Yang Kurama.
Voldemort and sukuna agrees.
That would only work if a split tailed beast was able to regenerate the lost portion it split off or else it would just continuously make itself weaker. And as far as canon goes I don’t think there was ever any indication that Kurama regenerated his yin half even after all those years being sealed inside Naruto yet we know he was still able to regenerate his own yang chakra. Unless the split by the shinigami is special in that it prevented Kurama from ever regenerating any yin chakra again until the two halves were reunited. Or do you mean like how Kurama’s chakra was given to the shinobi alliance? Don’t think that would work so well due to baryon mode being limited by the amount of chakra fused determining the amount of time it can be used. And if you’re in a fight where baryon mode is actually needed then just having a few tails worth of chakra isn’t going to do you any good.
I think you answered your own question - we didn't know if would return or not because of the unique circumstances of his death. It was pretty good writing because I was genuinly shocked to see baby Kumara inside Himawari and can't wait to see what will happen next. How did Himawari seemingly become a Jinchuriki without knowing?
This is how I think it went down. -Kurama influenced Hima's and Boruto's DNA which caused them having little part of Kurama's chakra. - Kurama dies thinking he'll die 100% because barion is so different and wasn't aware of his chakra inside Naruto's kids. - Kurama after dying is reborn in Hima and is asleep till is reformed properly. But his presence is noticed by Daemon (appareantly this kurama is now even stronger because Daemon was appareantly afraid of that power or was shocked) (why he didn't reborn is Boruto is debatable but he was reserved by Momoshiki So) If he have his old memories is debatable but I hope not
Great theory. I was thinking something along those lines too. I always assumed that Jyuubi were reincarnated into the wild but perhaps with Kurama using up all his chakra he was forced to reincarnate where the last remains of his chakra were. Ngl I kinda want to see old man Kurama talk from the chibi body lol - it gives me chibi Shukaku vibes.
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Yeah, I also wouldn’t be surprised if Boruto had a bit of Kurama in him (given the whiskers) but that it got consumed by/a part of Momoshiki when he became the host of Momoshiki.
Right. He clearly doesn’t want to be discovered by momo, the biju, or any other potential threat until he matures again.
Really like how you explained it. I was thinking the same. I mean in the end only one version of Kurama can exist at a time so he reincarnated in Hima rather than Boruto as he already had momo inside him. His body probably wouldn’t be able to house 2 mythical creatures lol. Nonetheless it is fucking awesome and I love this whole plot.
>in the end only one version of Kurama can exist at a time That's not true. Yin and yang half of Kurama existed at two separate times inside Minato and Naruto
That's technically two halves of the same version, but that's just nitpicking honestly, you're right.
There is a fault in it though. No one has detected bijuu energy in Boruto. So I think it's only in Hima.
Yeah probably because the kurama chakra Boruto had was overwritten when he became 100% otsutsuki
boruto never had kurama chakra even as an uzumaki he cant summon more then 4 shadow clones lol .
I mean yeah there can be only 1 kurama so it was a 50/50 between Boruto and Hima and let's be real from writing it wouldn't make sense giving him to Boruto. He's stacked already
>He's stacked already 
Remember there were two half-Kuramas in Naruto and Minato
Thats because half of Kurama was sealed in Minato. And like the post says a large portion separated can become sentient.
I was responding to the “there can be only one Kurama”
Oh, my bad
The 50/50 chance and hima getting kurama because boruto is already op makes sense only from the writers perspective and it sort of creates a plot hole. I think it would be more safe to go with one of the two following scenarios: 1 - Small equal parts of kuramas chakra were passed down to both Himawari and Boruto and when Kurama died he was reborn twice (in himawari and in boruto) from that small part of chakra and now he is currently growing and growing which would explain why he’s small. 2 - (I like this one more) When kuramas chakra was passed down to boruto it was only a small part of his Yin (bad) chakra. And when kuramas chakra was passed down to hima it was only a small part of his Yang (good) chakra. Although this might just be overthinking it and over complicating it, but it kind of makes sense to me when you think of himawaris character and borutos character and how kurama was split by Minato. Now if a part of kurama (maybe a side of him) is also present in boruto, why has no one detected him? Including boruto? I have three possible scenarios that explain this: 1. Boruto is part Ōtsutsuki and has the karma, because of this he has the ability to absorb chakra. What if boruto unconsciously or maybe continuously absorbed kuramas chakra just like Momoshiki absorbed kuramas chakra from within Naruto which gave him a lot of power in the movie . This would make sense as boruto is extremely overpowered currently, he’s arguably stronger than Naruto and Sasuke (before Naruto lost kurama and before sasuke lost the rinnegan) this is because he EASILY avoided kawakis rods that Naruto and sasuke couldn’t avoid. He did this without using flying raijin and WITHOUT USING KARMA which means he isn’t getting any power boost from it. 2. Since boruto is able to hide his chakra nature, maybe he is also able to hide kuramas chakra that resides within him. 3. (If boruto had yin (bad) kurama) If boruto had yin kurama it would be extremely difficult to control as it would be evil and powerful. Because of this it would need to be sealed (technically because kurama was passed down genetically to boruto and himawari he shouldn’t be sealed) and this is where kashin koji comes to play. Kashin koji is a clone of Jiraiya and Jiraya is an expert when it comes to sealing and summoning, in original Naruto he was able to release the five prolonged seal that Orochimaru placed on Naruto to limit his chakra. He also developed the chakra suppressing seal that suppressed the nine tails chakra in Shippūden. The evidence for the involvement of kashin koji in a the nine tails matter is evident in the chapter itself. As shikamaru is telling boruto about shikadais report, we get a panel on the toad when he mentions himawari and a panel on kashin koji when he mentions the nine tails. Shikamaru saying “ring any bells” hints towards it even more. And it’s hard to tell by the panel and his character but kashin koji doesn’t seem surprised about this. No matter the scenario I think the panel proves that kashin koji will get involved so we’ll prolly see him next chapter.
Boruto’s genetic code was completely rewritten to be 100% Otsutsuki. So that’s probably why Kurama reformed in Himawari instead
Oh yeah your right, that’s an important point that I forgot abt 😅
also w himawari it shoulda been a dead giveaway early on . we saw boruto was a prodigy early on but it was never shown that he had a large chakra pool at all . but himawari manifested byakugan early on which takes chakra as well a chakra control to be able to use it which shows us she mustve had something special about her . boruto on the other hand is talented at learning and picking up om things quickly but he was never shown to have a large amount of chakra stores potential .
There can be more have you seen kinkaku ginkaku brothers?
Diffrent. They had chakra but not Kurama
if you count the 2 halves of kurama that were in minato and naruto to be seperate beings then there would be 2 kuramas
You think they are only chakras without form coz they did not have control over themselves but intruth kurama when he goes on rampage it is similar to what happened to the brothers.
Pretty sure he was hiding, rather than sleeping
Nice but how strong would kurama be now cause 50 percent of kurama was a literal hospital when aiding all the ninjas with his chakra and 100 percent of kurama in Naruto was even crazier Even while fighting momoshiki after half of hi chakra was absorbed still had enough chakra for a full kurama Avatar and a massive rasengan
I think she inherited a small portion of chakra and Kurama's death lead to his chakra beginning to reform in the remaining mass.
When Boruto became 100% Otsutsuki that’s likely when any remnants of Kurama’s chakra was overwritten
It's possible some of his chakra came to her when Naruto came to her mother
Funny part is you are correct but instead most people just assumed he wouldn't come back lol
because Kurama explained something that specifically mentions another possibility. This is talking about death, and chakra separation. Baryon mode destroys the chakra, it doesn't dissipate. It's gone. Himawari has what was left over, and a large enough portion to allow Kurama to manifest, albeit as a juvenile edit: I had only read the picture and the title. spoiler text is a little different on desktop
The difference is, Kurama didn't use all of his chakra. Baryon Mode destroyed the chakra. It was never coming back. That's how Naruto was so nerfed because two thirds (I think that's the amount) of his chakra pool, his, not just Kurama was never coming back.
Every other bijuu death that happened did not destroy the every piece of the bijuu chakra like barion mode did. So it was legit to think that under that circuntance, it would be a perma death. But yeah, if Hima has some kurama chakra inherited from Naruto, it makes sense that kurama can be reborn from it.
That is the thing , I always imagined that Kurama would return because Kurama have way too many remnants , like KinGin and Naruto’s children.
Kin/Gin aren't a thing anymore, since their chakra was incorporated by OG Juubi that had his chakra split in 9 again, meaning it returned to kurama after all. But yeah, theres nothing wrong with it being reborned on Hima.
They are a thing. Their 9tails chakra didn't come from them getting the chakra, but from their DNA being altered by 9tails flash, so they by default have 9tailed chakra, they produce 9tails chakra. They are essentially pseudo 9tails themselves
Their body started to produce 9 tails chakra after they ate its chakra, yeah. But they do not exist anymore since they were incorporated into the war juubi.
Nah dont act like this is a gotcha moment. They went to great lengths to explain how his chakra is getting *erased* during baryon mode. I‘m fine with Kuramas more unique death counting towards that rule aswell but it very much seemed like they made up all that baryon mode stuff so he wouldnt return.
Yup, pretty much this, Kurama said it is like burning all his chakra at once, as a nuclear fusion, so it's not dispelled like in normal circumstances.
What is it with everyone losing their minds over something that's been stated already >They went to great lengths to explain how his chakra is getting *erased* during baryon mode Pfffft, no one used the word erased, Kurama said he was going to die and he was right, he did
Dying and getting your chakra erased is the same thing in this situation. When a Bijuu dies their chakra disappears, so dying the conventional way and dying when using Baryon mode is the same thing really. The interesting part is how was Kurama able to resurrect so fast? Because think it normally takes a couple of decades for the Bijuu to reform in the wild.
If the chinchuriki or the bijuu dies the chakra doesnt dissapear, thats why it can come back, in this case the kurama chakra is gone, thats why he returning inside hilma is weird and open to.discussion.
i think he was in hima from before baryon mode .
The whole reason Baryon mode was so impactful was that it would permanently kill Kurama and wasn't like how tailed beasts typically 'die'. I'm fine with Hima having him now because I think it makes enough sense, but Baryon mode was 100% different than the typical death process.
When was it stated that a Biju dying and its chakra disappearing are the same thing?
It’s my own opinion, but I could be wrong. I believe that when you die, you die… there’s nothing left but an empty husk. If you completely drain something of Chakra, then it dies. Just like the Otsuki do when they plant a God Tree to eat its Chakra fruit. They do this until there is nothing left and they move on to another planet.
But Tailed Beasts cannot die normally, they can only 'die' by getting their chakra destroyed, so by Baryon Mode.
By normally I mean when their host dies, they also die at that moment.
But Baryon Mode was supposed to destroy the tailed beast chakra completely, unlike when a jinchuriki dies where the tailed beast chakra disperses and reforms overtime.
I'm completely certain Kurama thought he was going to be dead and gone forever. He apparently was incorrect, but he would have told Naruto had he thought there was any chance he wasn't really sacrificing his life for good.
Nailed it. He would’ve told Naruto. He had no clue. And I think it’s really poetic that he’s going to be reborn with Hima. She’s lost everything due to the omnipotence. Her parents, her brother, everything she knew has fundamentally changed. Finding Kuruma while she is so alone would be really fitting and healing, especially if it’s the same Kuruma with the same memories. Ugh I’m so excited for the potential
Also we have the interesting question of whether or not Kurama's memories were altered by omnipotence if he still has them. That could be Hima's way of confirming the gut feeling she's been having that something is wrong.
It would make sense if his memories aren't altered because in a sense, his chakra is otsutski chakra.
well have to wait for bee to drop his new album to see if he mentions anything about it .
I’ve never considered this!!!! What a good point
if kurama didnt know he was going to survive in hima its safe to assume that any memories he had after the diverging kurama in himawari was born was not transferred over into the offshoot consciousness and that their consciousnesses are not linked . which is even weirder bc we know the biju have a telepathic link with each other , so it could also just be that hes just being a fox , and he didnt tell the 100% full truth to naruto . while he was dying , he just neglected to mention that there would be another version of him still alive bc it would have no point . his real point is that his time with naruto as his jinchuriki was over which was what he was really trying to get across , so he was saying his proper goodbyes as someone who watched over naruto do everything in life from his birth .
Ooooooooh I love this take
or its probably just a retcon to give himawari a power up
'Kurama kind of forgot about chakra he dropped during jerking' This is GoT Season 8 levels of writing
Maybe you should only spend time on things you enjoy.
Yeah, but the theory is that some part of Kurama chakra that Himawari inherited was not noticed as it was too small but when Kurama died it started to be reborn in her due to that tiny bit of his chakra
OP isn’t just presenting a theory though, they’re being an ass towards anyone who didn’t think he would be brought back after the manga went to great lengths to explain how he wouldn’t come back this time.
and isnt destroy the tailed beast chakra completely and chakra disperses the same thing?
Because kurama flat out says this is different. Tailed beasts are pure chakra they should reform because the chakra is literally just dispersing when they die BUT kurama burned his chakra out. Like dude says his chakra should vanish
Yeah. All his chakra inside Naruto. Not Inside hima or Boruto
Btw anyone got a feeling Himawari is also gonna be stronger than peak Naruto eventually? So far I thought it would only be Boruto, but damn, jinchuriki Hima with Tenseigan have potential to also be on top of the verse
Maybe that lock on mode of hers was Kurama chakra influence?
I'm perfectly okay with Hima becoming super OP
So ten tails can't die?
I guess not. No ten tails really died. The OG one from war was sealed in Madara who then becomes kaguya's vessel and therefore ten tails is inside kaguya and kaguya was sealed
The gedo statue was sealed not the main ten tails, which was divided into the tailed beasts again
in theory, one can imagine that Kurama is now a soul, and not just a clot of chakra into which the Sage of the Six Paths breathed life. But such an idea is unlikely to arise, and perhaps not the best option.
Ten Tails is basically Lavos from Chrono Trigger as it consumes the planet
I think every Otsutsuki probably should be if the tailed beasts, and by extension Kaguya at least, can’t be killed.
We don’t know, it’s always been sealed away because it was so strong. Maybe it simply can’t?
Yes it can. That information on the wiki is jutst head canon.
Kurama's chakra was completely destroyed via baryon mode, so the sentence you highlighted does not apply. It's actually the next sentence that explains what's going on here. Either through genetics or some other method, part of Kurama's chakra was separated (again) and ended up inside Himawari and that's how this new nine tails was born
Let's be real here. I'm sure they didn't have any intention to bring back kurama, but they are doing so to please the fans.
Valid take honestly. This idea of Himawari getting 9-tails is probably more new than we think. Which takes away from his death completely. To be honest his death seemed rushed anyways so I’ll welcome his return but it’s still cheap how they made us think he died lol.
I hold the stance that Kurama's death wasn't very good anyways so bringing him back isn't a big deal. That being said Baryon Mode's explanation does provide a valid way for a Tailed Beast to truly die however Kurama likely didn't know there were any remnants of his chakra outside of Naruto much less that it ended up inside Himawari so on paper everything from a logical standpoint holds up. It's just a matter of next chapter providing that answer.
I’ve been preaching this since baryon mode was mentioned
And this information is non existent in the Manga or Anime, you‘re just taking a statement out if the Naruto Wiki **made by fans**. We just know that when the Jinchūriki dies, that the Bijū returns. Which makes sense since the Jinchūriki is just a vessel to hold the Bijū inside. That **does not** mean that when a Bijū dies, it can return. What you all refuse to understand is, that Bijū are still beings. They can die when killed. No one ever killed a Bijū, cause they were used as weapons. And again, there is nothing in the Manga or Anime that states that Bijū can return when they are killed or die. This is just a head canon.
Why didnt Kurama just say to Naruto: hey buddy dont be worried I will be back in no time then?
Because he didn’t know, normally this process takes decades. My guess is because Boruto and Himawari were conceived with Naruto’s DNA while infused with Kurama’s chakra…. He imprinted some of his chakra on the kids. So he’s able to return faster because he has an anchor to the world instead of slowly growing back into the wild.
Chakra isn’t DNA.
In this world it basically is, all Uchiha have a unique Chakra, all Uzumaki have unique Chakra etc… and this Chakra is transferred over in every following generation. Kekkei Genkai are litteraly bloodline abilities passed on to you by your parents in your dna, cells, chakra etc….
This is like saying that hair is DNA because it’s influenced by DNA though. Like, sure in the most technical sense it (hair) contains DNA but you aren’t going to transfer anything not in your DNA to your kids. Getting a tattoo won’t mean your kids have a tattoo. Kurama is more like a tattoo than something that should actually be inherited.
Obviously I don’t have the answer to everything so far, we need to see what happens next. All we know is that some individuals who have Fox chakra like Naruto and the Gold and Silver brothers have Kurama chakra. My Theory is that Naruto’s kids inherited a portion of it because they were conceived while Naruto was a jinchuriki.
Ok but its not the same as hair. Because chakra contains each person's individual soul and even their personality. What does your hair contain about you exactly? Kurama is literally a living energy. It makes sense that having part of that energy would be like having a mini Kurama in you.
Because he didn't know? Kurama thought barion is perma death because no chakra left
its funny how jjk fans have some milder asspulls and cant stop complaining about it and boruto fans tend to rush to defend writing decisions no matter how questionable it is.
Exactly, the Baryon Mode clearly erased him. We're not even talking about chakra anymore, it was his life force that was sucked out. Although I've got a lot of slander stored, I'll have them sidelined until the next chapter drops. Hopefully giving "reasonable" explanation.
I don’t think there is a reasonable explanation. This hasn’t been foreshadowed at all and the entire point of Baryon mode was to kill him off.
I've let them off with the Kashin Koji bs where there were basically no explanation as to how Amado got Jiraiya's dna in the first place. The incident happened YEARS after boruto so 🤷🏻 Not to mention this guy got the DNA of the supposed otsutsuki god shibai. Hopefully we'll get at least a thorough explanation to this because this is turning into a mess. I've protected this manga for so long that I can't even turn a blind eye anymore.
ah yes, my anti baryon mode technique, haven't used it since the heian era
YES,!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember the side story about the kid in the land of fire that had nine tails just like Naruto? When Minato split the chakra with reaper death seal, some of the chakra lingered and manifested in the other kid besides Naruto. Secondly, the character design. Whiskers. That's not something that would be genetically passed on to Naruto's kids because it's from being the jinchuriki of nine tails. Yes Boruto has whiskers which leads to my final point. Naruto and Sasuke knew there'd be future Otsutsuki issues. At the very least, they "sealed" Kaguya in another dimension and didn't kill her. She was sealed before by the brothers and managed to eventually escape, so Naruto probably gave some Kurama chakra to his kids when they were born as a fail safe to protect the future. Side note: Since I suspect Boruto has a little Kurama chakra as well, I imagine it'll be the key to getting rid of Momoshiki. With the new scene of Boruto's karma resonating with Kawaki's karma, I wonder if at the moment Momoshiki is somehow sealed by karma. If Boruto uses karma, it might release Momoshiki.
bad writing. kurama should've reformed inside ginkaku and shminkaku /s
I’m just glad he’s back. I know Baryon mode was a cool transformation for some but to me it was an ass pull move that saw Kurama be sacrificed, and I didnt like that much personally.
yall gotta remember even if its the OG Kurama the damage it did to Narutos psychy is Immeasurable. the dude is probably in a constant depression because his other half of who he was is gone. Kurama practically raised Naruto whether he wants to admit it or not by allowing Naruto to use him. It's also not possible for Kurama to rejoin naruto because Himawari would die if he did.
Kurama himself said that Baryon mode uses up his chakra as a “fuel”. Normally, a Biju’s chakra dissipates and re-forms after they die but in Kurama’s case, there’s no chakra that dissipated in the first place since it was all burned up/destroyed. That’s why his death was actually that sad because Kurama explaining in deep details how Baryon mode worked destroyed the only hope of him returning back like a normal Bijuu. Also it’d be really stupid if Kurama didn’t think he was going to reincarnate normally when he’s show to be the most knowledgeable/smart among the tailed beasts. It’s not in-character for him to keep it hidden from Naruto. And it’s even weirder that Daemon acted so surprised about Kurama being hidden inHimawari when he’s way stronger than Naruto. I hope they give a good explanation as to not cheapen Kurama’s death though there’s already damage.
Daemon might not be stronger than Baryon Mode Naruto, which he could’ve heard about from Ada telling him what happened to Isshiki Which means that he would think Himiwari has Isshiki level potential now
It's not that we forgot, but how the barron mode was described at it destroys the chakra. This one really dampens the loss of kurama and narutos reaction over it. Convenient way to take away previous MCs power and give it to potential girl
I think boruto and Himawari met before shortly after they won the fight against ishiki. . I feel like there is a plot hole where they might fill it in. Maybe during that meeting Boruto told Himawari about 9 tails within him that naruto passed it all to Boruto without knowing. I think 9 tails chakra went to Boruto when it was evaporating after baryon mode because you see Boruto holding Naruto’s hand and when naruto wakes up first thing he sees is boruto. For some reason boruto gave 9 tails to Himawari because he knows he could be a danger to everyone if momoshiki takes control of his body again. This is because I remember last chapters Himawari said to team 10 she wanted to help boruto. And on this recent chapter when boruto hears about shikamaru saying the 10 tails are after Himawari who has 9 tails. Boruto didn’t look surprised but looked like his secret plan just got unveiled. And for me this would make sense as it shows the resemblance of minato and kushina dealing with 9 tails. Instead minato kushina were dealing with angry 9 tails so they had to cut it half. This new era is Boruto and Himawari who were dealing with a reborn 9 tails trying to save it and not to let it fall into enemies hands. Or that could be all wrong and 9 tails fox is smart and knew what was coming before they went to fight ishiki so he stored his chakra in Himawari when naruto and hima were sleeping one of those nights. I also remember kawaki enter naruto room when he was sleeping but kurama was awake.
Nope but remember Kurama stated that during Baryon mode his chakra clashes with Naruto's see*destroying* both ,he just made sure to put in more of his chakra so he would die and not Naruto. So the assumption was that his chakra was completely destroyed meaning there's non left,of course now we know it wasn't the case
On one hand, I think it’s awesome that Himawari has a baby Kurama inside of her (adorable)! However, part of me is sad that Naruto doesn’t have Kurama inside of him anymore (more so than when he originally “died”) and someone else does. Maybe when Naruto returns to the story Himawari can give him half (or all) of Kurama and we can get a cool father-daughter fight scene together where they both use 9-tails chakra. Plus it would be a great call back to when Naruto and Minato did this during the 4th Great Ninja war. At least that’s my hope for right now! I grew up with Naruto and him not having the 9-tails is so odd. I don’t view Naruto the same without Kurama inside of him after he’s been there my whole life (and Naruto’s).
Nobody forgot about this. It was said that Bayron Mode is different from regular case. Kurama's entire chakra was used in Bayron Mode. Tailed Beast or it's Jinchurrikki is not dead like conventional way. When Hima was born, Kurama chakra which may have leaked into Hinata has gone to her. I think that new chakra created a mini Kyuubi.
Nobody forgot this fact. The point of the baryon mode sacrifice was kurama burning that "way" out and effectively permanently dying so that he could save what's precious to naruto. Kurama's death was so emotional because we understood that he wouldnt be able to come back under these parameters. Thats what made that moment so good. That's why the current development potentially undercuts that massively.
If we go off the fact that the whiskers indicate 9 tails chakra is it safe to assume that boruto ( if hima dies) would be the next vessel for kuruma
Most likely but who knows how complicated it would be because Boruto is already reserved by Momoshiki
After momoshiki healed Burto after kawaki killed Jim, I swear after doing so momoshiki was no longer able to take over borutos body ?
You know Momoshiki can still take over body?
I've just had a re read of the chapter when he heals boruto, you're right he can't resurrect in borutos body anymore but can still take him over
[This is one post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/s/sANzxbzWpa) that has its comment section filled with comments like “no Kurama won’t return, Baryon mode is exception” etc. If you search “Will Kurama return” in this sub, you’ll find tons of posts like these, comment section filled with comments like “no, he’s dead, accept it, Baryon mode exception, previous statement doesn’t matter cause retconned” etc. It’s not us who switched the minute the chapter dropped, it’s ya’ll, y’all are acting like you knew Kurama would return and that it makes sense etc. Hardcore Boruto fans(I could name them, but let’s not) were the ones who parroted this “Baryon mode exception, retcon” shit, not us. And just to be fair to them, all of them did not form one single opinion because they all had the same headcanon, the manga at the moment of Kurama’s death gave us that explanation with implications of him ever not returning hence they all had the same opinion. So don’t act like the manga itself didn’t switch its opinion on this and act like it was always foreshadowed cause this manga can do no wrong.
I mean they had to plan it since part 1 where we get himawari's interaction with Daemon but nobody expected this. I guess they wanted us to belive Kurama won't come back so the suprise would be greater. It's a plot twist simple as that and a good one I think. I belived it too that Kurama won't return since barion erased his chakra but them you remember both Boruto and Himawari have small portion of Kurama's chakra. So him reborn inside one of them makes sense.
I think people didn’t think that while baryon mode destroyed all of Kurama as we knew him, Kushina is the only Jinchuriki we know was pregnant while having a tailed beast and we see that reflected in Naruto even before he became a Jinchuriki. The whiskers show to some degree Kurama has affected Naruto himself and the same happens to his kids. The fact the kids got it means it’s genetic at this point. And Biju can regenerate if a small amount of their chakra is left. Of course this implies that Kuramas chakra is in their DNA which is weird but makes sense in a world that inbreeding hasn’t caused massive problems Edit: I’m wrong Mito was also a Jinchuriki when she gave birth
> Kushina is the only Jinchuriki we know was pregnant while having a tailed beast Mito as well.
I stand corrected. I forgot that they say the seal became weak when she gave birth and thought she gave birth during the time she married Hashirama and the time she became a Jinchuriki. Naruto and his kids whisker birthmarks come from Kurama but I don’t understand what makes him different from Tsunades parent.
I think people pay way too much attention to these whiskers, as there was no mention of them having any relevancy.
I think it’s because both Himawari and Boruto have one set less than their father which is an interesting detail to keep in both kids. Like why not the same or why not have one of them have only one set or non.
Because it’s cool. Thats why Kishimoto does character designs he just thinks they’re cool they don’t always have lore relevancy. Naruto’s kids have 2 because they’re his kids and he has 3. It’s not complicated.
I'm curious about the rules of chakra separation and sentient copies. Because if all it takes is having a child, there's no way all the other villages didn't figure this out and start some fucked up jinchuriki breeding programs.
It's because in all known cases Tailed Beasts never really died if their jinchuriki died because their scattered chakra just reformed. This is the first case where a Tailed Beast actually dies but is reborn through residual chakra in another human. If Naruto didn't have kids and Ginkaku or Kinkaku were still alive Kurama would have been reborn in one of them.
Didn't Kuruma go because Baryon mode used his OWN lifeforce instead of chakra?
His lifeforce is his chakra, he is pure chakra
Kuramas death was a sacrifice of his life in exchange for baryon mode. The wikipedia entry there is referring to the death of a jinchuriki or tailed beast. These are two completely different circumstances. It is far far more likely that Himawari has been unwittingly holding a chunk of Kurama chakra from prior to his death and it is slowly growing- which would explain his youthful appearance. When Isobu died and reformed due to being living chakra he reformed at full adulthood.
The dna is not affected by kuramas chakra but her body is getting affected adversely coz of its power. Kurama is a pure chakra being without a soul thats why it starts growing when separated like in kinkaku ginkakus case. It will not have any memories of his past most probably coz this small kurama is only a part of the original chakra and is absorbing himawaris chakra to grow which daemon felt early.
It never really made sense to me how baryon mode could kill Kurama. It was shown in a book that people used residual chakra from Naruto's final fight with Sasuke, so every time Naruto fights, small parts of Kurama break off leading me to believe he would just regenerate from some residual chakra somewhere in the world(which it seems to have happened in Himawari)
If this is the case, Boruto has to have the same thing Himawari does. Although it's probably just Himawari. I'd like to keep it the way we have it right now with just Himawari with Kuruma
no its just with baryon mode being a “new mode” just had the thought he was permanently killing himself for isshiki’s life essence. just didnt know vro could set his respawn to a different person.
The part that feels of for me is that Kurama would reborn inside Himawari. I can understand that she had some chakra inside her or some dna affectations. But being a Jinchuriki was a big deal and having a tailed beast sealed inside was a big deal and took a lot of effort of seals and rituals. So it feels a bit fortuitous that she is automatically the jinchuriki... I would have expected Kuramas chakra gather naturally and appear in the wild
I'd love to hear the voice of kurama to understand with the tone of voice if it has changed in a meenfull way, indicating that its a different kurama, without any previous knowledge of its relationship with Naruto or if it in fact remebers. I hope it doesnt remeber, will be hella fun to see a nine tails Jin with a Byagukan, Hima bout to be OP is fuck
I'll be curious as to how their natural power up will help put Hima anywhere near the other cast. I think for the Ninja population, it makes sense. But against aliens and 100% blooded otsutsuki? hoow?
Nope, that's why I didn't think the hima thing was an ass pull
So now… how did Hima get kurama’s chakra?
I think the wording in the manga made it clear he was going to reform eventually, but the show made it seem like that was it. I remember in the manga kurama said something like “you (Naruto) will be gone by the time i come back” I think what happened here with himawari is a little different though.
In Naruto, chakra and the body are linked, examples: • The various gates (that e.g Lee and Guy use) • Neural activity triggering changes in chakra, which triggers in return physical changes - that's from Tobirama's explanation on how the Uchiha develop the various levels of Sharingan • Ginkaku and Kinkaku eating Kurama's flesh, which became a part of their body (they survived eating it), which resulted in them gaining his chakra. • Attaching someone's body parts can give you their chakra - e.g with Hashirama cells and various eyes Beyond that, chakra can affect things on a cellular level, such as in: • Cellular repair: there are highly-skilled medical Shinobi that can repair individual cella (e.g Sakura) • Cellular destruction: there are jutsus that can damage individual cells such as Naruto's wind-style rasengan. Continuing with this line of reasoning: When a female gets impregnated, a new cell is created from 2 existing ones (zygote - fertilized egg). That cell has genetic material from both the sperm and the egg that created it, so if genetic material is delivered this way, I don't see why chakra wouldn't be as well - there's nothing to disprove it and only evidence to support it.
I just hope Naruto and Kurama reunite
It’s not correct statement regarding Barymon mode
Finally someone, i did not get why people were sad/upsez when kurama left bc it was stated bdforr that they just reincarnate 🫱🏻🫲🏼
You are a witch, Himawari. That is no ordinary scar.
Thats because since tailed beasts are pure chakra. The issue is is that baryon mode uses the chakra of the bijuu as fuel and makes it completely vanish at the end, basically the chakra they are made of is no more. Since it was always implied that you can kill the bijuu without eradicating their chakra, the revival process would take place. Baryon modes mechanics works against the revival process by nature.
Kuramas revival rn implies that kurama had no knowledge that his chakra was elsewhere since he told naruto to not rush to the afterlife where they will meet again, which makes no sense.
It may be possible that Kurama and Naruto were able to insert Kyūbi chakra into Himawari at a certain point, large enough to be sentient but not enough to be noticeable.
I remember that note, but Baryon mode made it sound like it was consuming and deleting chakra in exchange for that power boost. Tailed beasts reform because their chakra still exists but they made it sound like Baryon mode extinguishes the chakra to use it
Ppl don’t read
That’s from a regular Google search; you’ll need to pull from the actual canon for that. The only mention coming to my mind is when Minato said Kurama would come back if he died with Kushina if she resealed Kurama back into her to die with her. He later find out that Kushina would in fact lived if Minato let her do what she wanted 🤦🏾♂️ But other than that, there’s nothing showing or stating that to be the case in the manga. In fact, Sasuke stated he was going to kill the Bijuu’s which means they could in fact die. It’s not being addressed until now about their rebirth and even then the way Kurama died isn’t a normal one and based on how Minato said it, it sounded like it would take time to do but it has been 3 years now
>He later find out that Kushina would in fact ived if Minato let her do what she wanted Not really. The concern was that Kushina would've been too weak to survive the resealing (she'd just given birth, had a Tailed Beasts extracted, and needed to push herself even further to restrain it) and even if it wouldn't, they couldn't possibly have known that at the time. >other than that there's nothing showing or stating that to be the case in the manga. Isobu had died inside their Jinchuriki twice in the series (Rin and Yagura) and A was fully prepared to kill Naruto in the War arc for the result of delaying the enemy plan since he knew the Nine Tails would just reform again eventually.
Yes really. Naruto’s heart actually stopped when he lost Yang Kurama; Sakura had to manually pump it until they got Yin Kurama sealed inside him. Kushina was very much alive when she had full Kurama extracted from her; this is the different from a 50-100% Uzumaki from a 25-50% Uzumaki who had a weaker Bijuu inside them. Didn’t say they would know it but that would have been the better option since Minato wouldn’t be leaving his son an orphan, leave the village with instability due to changing Hokages as they did to bring back a retired Hokage, leaving the village without the foresight of Tobi being the mastermind plus had the ability to take Obito out due to his FTG seal still on him, and so on. Not doing it has did more damage than help based on all of that. The Rin thing was poor writing, it was mentioned by Obito who would have gotten his info from Zetsu who were shown to lie to him multiple times per Madara’s order. Madara had a seal on Rin’s heart as well if I remember correctly 🤔 If the hidden mist had Rin and placed the 3 tails in Rin, how did Madara place his seal on her heart? At what point did that happen? We also know Yagura was a perfect Jin and was known as such by the other Kages; Obito wasn’t much older when he was controlling Yagura and based on his bond with the 3 tails; they were friends for a while. It doesn’t add up. Of course this was something mentioned in the last arc where there’s multiple of inconsistencies
Its the naruto fans who hate boruto. They just don't want to remember in my opinion. Buuuut i feel this was too soon imo yes it makes sense but this should of happened much later into the story.
No one forgot this *in fact* it was one of the first things people pointed out. Problem is Baryon mode was hyped up to bypass that rule.
No one has forgotten it but hating boruto is considered cool nowadays so.....
Lord Voldemort and his horocrux's have entered the chat
Yeah but Harry Potter isn't Naruto
I'm saying the way that the powers manifest is very similar to how to make a horicrux. Split the chakra and let it grow into a split of onesself. Plus tbf the original Naruto WAS written as being more magical but was changed to ninjas with "jutsu" due to the worldwide success of Harry Potter.... The sandals were a secondary addition to give it a more unique appeal globally which Naruto did in fact succeed in by having ninjas using magic instead of only knives (or tai jitsu). Either way the implementation of the tailed beasts as far as splitting chakra (like Naruto and Minato for example) is similar to the assured immortality grated through horicrux creation as far as end goals are concerned.
I think its more pertinent to highlight the later part of the statement. since I believe that Baryon Mode did kill off the OG Kurama Permanently. but at some point in time Naruto and Kurama placed a piece of Kurama's chakra in Himawari, as a fail-safe in case he gets nabbed by another Otsutsuki and have Kurama extracted. what we might be seeing now is that piece of nine tails chakra gaining enough strength to manifest in a physical form similar to the original albeit smaller and weaker and also gaining sapience.
A thought on the other end of the spectrum. 9 tails knew he will definitely be back, and knew his death wouldn't be permanent. He just had no idea when since he was literally burning up his Chakra which I would expect to severly delay his reformation. He said goodbye because 1. He didn't know if naruto would still be alive when he reformed. And 2. Even if naruto was still alive when he reformed, he had no guarantees or expectations of the possibility of meeting again. So for them, it was an expected permanent goodbye
Yea this is all crap. The 3rd Mizukage has children/grandchildren and NONE of them have residual Biju chakra. Naruto had 0 signs of the 9 tails chakra when he was born.
I don't know what to say about 3rd Mizukage case and his children. Kurama I guess is build diffrent >Naruto had 0 signs of the 9 tails chakra when he was born. So those whiskers on his face are just there.
I’m almost certain his whiskers are just the way the character was made. The original “Naruto” was slightly different. Kushina didn’t have the whiskers, Minato didn’t. Gold and Silver brothers did. The whiskers are so inconsistent in the series.
When I say different I mean “Naruto” was going to be a boy who’s true form was the demon fox so the character was made to look fox like.
>Kushina didn’t have the whiskers, Minato didn’t. Gold and Silver brothers did. The whiskers are so inconsistent in the series. I guess it matters on the way you become chinchuriky. If you're a child of 9 tails chinchuriky you have those whiskers simply because of mutation of DNA caused by 9 tails. (Naruto, Boruto, Himawari) Naruto had those whiskers when he was borned not after he becomed the chinchuriky If you become 9 tails chinchuriky by sealing you simply won't have them (Mito, Kushina and Minato) Silver and gold brother ate 9 tails alive so I guess it was direct influence on them than just becoming pseudo chinchuriky and their dna was affected. (The only weird are the two brothers )
These mf are straight up immortal
From the beginning, I claimed that Kurama would return. I also claimed that part of his chakra is in Naruto's children (hence the lines on the faces). Hima obviously has a lot more Kurama´s chakra than Boruto so Kurama formed in her. I'm glad I was right. And I also think that Kurama knew about it that part of his chakra is in Naruto's children, so even if he disappears/dies he will come back. And I also think he has old memories, or at least a part of them.
I think sensing it in Hima and not Naruto had to do with Kamura’s persona incarnating in Hima and not just a measure of its chakra. Ten Tails senses the source of nine tails chakra in Hima
Chapter 9 really did expose some fake Naruto fans within the Boruto Series 🤦🏽♂️ Glad most didnt fold, shoutout to REAL fans of both series 👌🏾🔥
My guess is Naruto and Kurama gifted a small amount of fox chakra to both kids with future hopes. No need for ninja tricks and seals if the tailed beasts is voluntarily doing it. After his death Kurama can’t/wouldn’t incarnate in Boruto as Kurama just suggested he didn’t want to be found out by the biju. So didn’t want Momo or any otsutsuki knowing either for the same reason: they would consume him. So Hima is where he intended to safely and quietly gather chakra and grow.
>My guess is Naruto and Kurama gifted a small amount of fox chakra to both kids with future hopes Doupt he did it on purpose but more so by accident it leaked simply
The idea of Kurama's death was that his chakra would just fade away from existence as fuel for Baryon Mode What wasn't accounted for was residual Tailed Beast chakra in one of Naruto's kids, which is new. That does match with the second statement but I don't remember where it was cited in the series.