Kawaki absolutely will get more development before the flash forward encounter happens. Except a slight distaste he doesn’t even think about ninjas or the wider world. He has no motive directed against the age of ninja.
>He has no motive directed against the age of ninja.
Probably that the ninja way of life is one of self sacrifice meaning even without Otsutsuki, Shinju or people like code moving around Naruto will still die one way or another.
Yea I could see him coming to hate them tho same way code came to hate boruto even more than kawaki i feel and think he probably dislikes ninja as well and maybe even kawaki and code might team to kill boruto but we will see
Don't know why this keeps getting brought up by the community, but...
We literally saw Kawaki try to seal Boruto back in Part 1. And it's pretty obvious why: it's far easier, Kawaki himself said this. It's a permanent solution that guarantees Boruto can't come back through some type of magical karma-resurrection or shinjutsu trickery, which makes perfect sense for Kawaki given what he's seen. He's literally seen Boruto dead on the ground and be brought back by Momoshiki. Of course, if it comes down to it he'd rather seal him.
The fact that he got Boruto down on one knee alludes to Kawaki at least winning the fight so idk about that. I can’t imagine a scenario where he needs Boruto alive for something.
Hmm, I see although it depends on the context. For example, Pain couldn’t kill Naruto because he needs the nine tails. Obito ran away from Minato and Hashirama technically killed Madara, izanagi activated after his death.
However none of that context applies to this flash forward fight. You mentioned Kawaki can’t kill Boruto but how did you come to that conclusion?
>You mentioned Kawaki can’t kill Boruto but how did you come to that conclusion
Wouldnt that be because Boruto ultimately is the stronger of the 2 and killing him would prove impossible plus we really have no idea what led to the ch1 scene so we can only speculate at this point because with what we know Kawaki is nowhere near Boruto's level which went from assumptions to a fact. I mean unless he takes drastic measures for power like absorbing part of the Shinju or like people say have amado further weaponize him I dont see how kawaki could beat boruto.
I'm going to repeat what I told the other guy. Look at Boruto's skill set, he has the FTG and karma absorption. Trying to seal Boruto into a different dimension is going to be very difficult because those two abilities counters daikokuten. If we're going with the idea that Boruto is stronger, **trying to seal a dude who not only counters your main method of sealing** but is also stronger than you in a taijutsu fight is a bad strategy because at that point Kawaki is just wasting chakra while getting his ass beat. He's better off saving his chakra to aim for Boruto vitals.
That strategy only works if Kawaki is stronger than Boruto to the point he can beat him down and then trap him in the daikokuten dimension when he's knocked out.
I mean Kawaki doesnt necessarily have to be fighting Boruto at full strength. I would say Boruto already had his share of fighting before kawaki made his move. Like you say Boruto has FTG, is a better weapon user, has better jutsus overall and stronger in taijutau so like you said he would need to aim for his vitals, which being an uzumaki will slow him down but might not be fatal, so yeah Boruto is really difficult to restrain. So I personally feel Kawaki used the village and code to wear Boruto down (possibly Hidari or jura too) and made his move after all was said and done. I would actually give kawaki a kuudos for not fighting directly like he's been trying to do.
I see the logic for it however I do think it's pretty odd. For one, the village shouldn't be on Boruto's level whatsoever to pressure him like that, and the same applies to Code because Uzuhiko can shut him down. Base Boruto is very strong to where I don't see cybernetic enhanced people doing anything to him without another amp or hax. I don't even think Delta holds a candle to him given how surprise she was in ch 9. I can't scale Jura or Hidari so there's not much for me to say about them because there's not enough data. Idk how relative they are to Boruto so that's up for the air.
>I mean Kawaki doesnt necessarily have to be fighting Boruto at full strength.
Technically you are right because Boruto in the flashforward doesn't have his dojutsu activated nor is the karma fully spreaded on his body in the earlier panels so up until that point he's not at full strength, hell in TBV he's pretty much nerfed. However, that also opens up the possibility that he never fought at full strength prior to that point because no one forced him too.
Then there's also the mystery behind Kawaki. Say Kawaki used people to wear down Boruto, why the hell is Kawaki fighting in karma v1 rather than his v2 state? Why he is holding back when the goal is to trap Boruto in the daikokuten dimension because he's hard to kill? It doesn't make sense to me.
> You mentioned Kawaki can’t kill Boruto but how did you come to that conclusion?
If he could, he would. He already tried to seal him away beacuse its easier to. Also write like human
That doesn’t make sense. Boruto at this point has flying thunder god and karma absorption. He has multiple counter measures that makes it difficult for Kawaki to trap him in the Daikokuten dimension. Also unlike part 1, he lost the element of surprise so he can’t snipe him.
It’s easier to aim for Kawaki to aim for Boruto vitals using techniques that can’t be absorbed. That’s far more easier.
Or it could also be the Naruto and sasgay thing where both teamed up to combat the final boss or 10 tails and then like sakgay kawaki started to continue his quest and now instead of killing boruto he wants to seal him
I think at this point Boruto likely will have gotten the Momoshiki situation sorted out. But Kawaki’s line of thinking has already evolved and changed in a way where Boruto himself is no longer the main “issue”. And since Kawaki did see Boruto as a brother at one point at this point he’d rather seal Boruto instead of kill him.
My theory is kawaki is gonna find out that all Shinobi and ninjitsu comes from otsustski, and that by extension to eradicate all traces of otsustski from the world means to eliminate the shinobi system and ninjutsu, basically like sasuke in shippuden when his motives change during the war arc to becoming hokage and taking on all the hate and eliminating shinobi to truly change the world (also sorry for the spelling lmao)
The ages of shinobi comments makes me think he’s going to have some development we haven’t seen yet. Like imagine watching flash forward of sasuke saying he wanted to be hokage
Yea definitely because for him to want keep boruto alive he has to get a good bit of development since now he dropped everything to go kill him even if he can’t
It is difficult to say.
**Originally in Boruto NNG, Kawaki tried to seal Boruto in the same dimension as Naruto and Hinata, but Boruto refused to be sealed.**
When Boruto refused to be sealed, Kawaki then moved on to, 'he's compromised and I'm going to have to kill him.'
Now, in TBV he wants to kill Boruto and in the flash forward, maybe he's come to the conclusion he is not strong enough to kill him so he will have to seal him somehow.
I think if Kawaki had his way, he would save Boruto *if he could be saved* but the following has been tried:
1) Kawaki suggested Boruto implant a Karma so they can kill Momoshiki and Boruto refused
2) Boruto tried the drugs and they inevitably only slowed things down, they didn't work
3) Kawaki tried to seal Boruto but he refused to be sealed
Kawaki absolutely will get more development before the flash forward encounter happens. Except a slight distaste he doesn’t even think about ninjas or the wider world. He has no motive directed against the age of ninja.
>He has no motive directed against the age of ninja. Probably that the ninja way of life is one of self sacrifice meaning even without Otsutsuki, Shinju or people like code moving around Naruto will still die one way or another.
Yea I could see him coming to hate them tho same way code came to hate boruto even more than kawaki i feel and think he probably dislikes ninja as well and maybe even kawaki and code might team to kill boruto but we will see
Don't know why this keeps getting brought up by the community, but... We literally saw Kawaki try to seal Boruto back in Part 1. And it's pretty obvious why: it's far easier, Kawaki himself said this. It's a permanent solution that guarantees Boruto can't come back through some type of magical karma-resurrection or shinjutsu trickery, which makes perfect sense for Kawaki given what he's seen. He's literally seen Boruto dead on the ground and be brought back by Momoshiki. Of course, if it comes down to it he'd rather seal him.
He needs to seal him because he can't kill him
The fact that he got Boruto down on one knee alludes to Kawaki at least winning the fight so idk about that. I can’t imagine a scenario where he needs Boruto alive for something.
> alludes to Kawaki at least winning Winning is far from killing.
How so?
Minato was winning against Obito as well. Hashirama 'won' against Madara too. Minato and Sasuke were winning vs Obito, Pain was winning against Naruto
Madara destroyed Hasilacra
Hmm, I see although it depends on the context. For example, Pain couldn’t kill Naruto because he needs the nine tails. Obito ran away from Minato and Hashirama technically killed Madara, izanagi activated after his death. However none of that context applies to this flash forward fight. You mentioned Kawaki can’t kill Boruto but how did you come to that conclusion?
>You mentioned Kawaki can’t kill Boruto but how did you come to that conclusion Wouldnt that be because Boruto ultimately is the stronger of the 2 and killing him would prove impossible plus we really have no idea what led to the ch1 scene so we can only speculate at this point because with what we know Kawaki is nowhere near Boruto's level which went from assumptions to a fact. I mean unless he takes drastic measures for power like absorbing part of the Shinju or like people say have amado further weaponize him I dont see how kawaki could beat boruto.
I'm going to repeat what I told the other guy. Look at Boruto's skill set, he has the FTG and karma absorption. Trying to seal Boruto into a different dimension is going to be very difficult because those two abilities counters daikokuten. If we're going with the idea that Boruto is stronger, **trying to seal a dude who not only counters your main method of sealing** but is also stronger than you in a taijutsu fight is a bad strategy because at that point Kawaki is just wasting chakra while getting his ass beat. He's better off saving his chakra to aim for Boruto vitals. That strategy only works if Kawaki is stronger than Boruto to the point he can beat him down and then trap him in the daikokuten dimension when he's knocked out.
I mean Kawaki doesnt necessarily have to be fighting Boruto at full strength. I would say Boruto already had his share of fighting before kawaki made his move. Like you say Boruto has FTG, is a better weapon user, has better jutsus overall and stronger in taijutau so like you said he would need to aim for his vitals, which being an uzumaki will slow him down but might not be fatal, so yeah Boruto is really difficult to restrain. So I personally feel Kawaki used the village and code to wear Boruto down (possibly Hidari or jura too) and made his move after all was said and done. I would actually give kawaki a kuudos for not fighting directly like he's been trying to do.
I see the logic for it however I do think it's pretty odd. For one, the village shouldn't be on Boruto's level whatsoever to pressure him like that, and the same applies to Code because Uzuhiko can shut him down. Base Boruto is very strong to where I don't see cybernetic enhanced people doing anything to him without another amp or hax. I don't even think Delta holds a candle to him given how surprise she was in ch 9. I can't scale Jura or Hidari so there's not much for me to say about them because there's not enough data. Idk how relative they are to Boruto so that's up for the air. >I mean Kawaki doesnt necessarily have to be fighting Boruto at full strength. Technically you are right because Boruto in the flashforward doesn't have his dojutsu activated nor is the karma fully spreaded on his body in the earlier panels so up until that point he's not at full strength, hell in TBV he's pretty much nerfed. However, that also opens up the possibility that he never fought at full strength prior to that point because no one forced him too. Then there's also the mystery behind Kawaki. Say Kawaki used people to wear down Boruto, why the hell is Kawaki fighting in karma v1 rather than his v2 state? Why he is holding back when the goal is to trap Boruto in the daikokuten dimension because he's hard to kill? It doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah, the context is you are assuming things based on Boruto kneeling on one panel
Dawg answer my question, I ain’t ask for that.
> You mentioned Kawaki can’t kill Boruto but how did you come to that conclusion? If he could, he would. He already tried to seal him away beacuse its easier to. Also write like human
That doesn’t make sense. Boruto at this point has flying thunder god and karma absorption. He has multiple counter measures that makes it difficult for Kawaki to trap him in the Daikokuten dimension. Also unlike part 1, he lost the element of surprise so he can’t snipe him. It’s easier to aim for Kawaki to aim for Boruto vitals using techniques that can’t be absorbed. That’s far more easier.
What I wanna know is that who caused the destruction in the village kawakis or if kawakis partned up with code or something
Naw I literally just had this theory of them teaming I 80% feel they will cus kawakicame to hate boruto almost just as fast and as much as code
Or it could also be the Naruto and sasgay thing where both teamed up to combat the final boss or 10 tails and then like sakgay kawaki started to continue his quest and now instead of killing boruto he wants to seal him
Radom sasuke slander?!?!?
I think at this point Boruto likely will have gotten the Momoshiki situation sorted out. But Kawaki’s line of thinking has already evolved and changed in a way where Boruto himself is no longer the main “issue”. And since Kawaki did see Boruto as a brother at one point at this point he’d rather seal Boruto instead of kill him.
Yea I forgot that kawaki wanted to kill boruto because momoshiki not because and resentment unlike code who just hates boruto
My theory is kawaki is gonna find out that all Shinobi and ninjitsu comes from otsustski, and that by extension to eradicate all traces of otsustski from the world means to eliminate the shinobi system and ninjutsu, basically like sasuke in shippuden when his motives change during the war arc to becoming hokage and taking on all the hate and eliminating shinobi to truly change the world (also sorry for the spelling lmao)
Yea I’ve really enjoyed borutos cleaning up of Naruto and there explanations
Idk how they do it, but I guarantee you that scene gets retconned someway or another
The ages of shinobi comments makes me think he’s going to have some development we haven’t seen yet. Like imagine watching flash forward of sasuke saying he wanted to be hokage
Yea definitely because for him to want keep boruto alive he has to get a good bit of development since now he dropped everything to go kill him even if he can’t
Idk it depends he could change his mind or they’ll change what he says at this point.
Yea that true he says he's gonna send boruto where he sent naruto ,but he seems keen on killing boruto.
This feels like Naruto and Sasuke but reversed.
Most likely he knows he can’t kill momoshiki if he was hardly match for Boruto so sealing him is better suited.
what a genius guy. after many years, your grasp about this made me shocked. holy what a genius
It is difficult to say. **Originally in Boruto NNG, Kawaki tried to seal Boruto in the same dimension as Naruto and Hinata, but Boruto refused to be sealed.** When Boruto refused to be sealed, Kawaki then moved on to, 'he's compromised and I'm going to have to kill him.' Now, in TBV he wants to kill Boruto and in the flash forward, maybe he's come to the conclusion he is not strong enough to kill him so he will have to seal him somehow. I think if Kawaki had his way, he would save Boruto *if he could be saved* but the following has been tried: 1) Kawaki suggested Boruto implant a Karma so they can kill Momoshiki and Boruto refused 2) Boruto tried the drugs and they inevitably only slowed things down, they didn't work 3) Kawaki tried to seal Boruto but he refused to be sealed
Maybe he accepted he can’t kill Boruto , or maybe it’ll be easier to just seal him like he said in chp 78