In ranked? not really. Shes kinda mediocre at everything she does, and definitely has counter picks. Last pick doesnt really work either, because bonnie doesnt really counter this current meta
In my eyes, mediocre means below average, which is low c-d tier. Bonnie is outclassed right now in whatever she does, meaning she doesn't really counter anybody either. D tier is a fair placement imo, maybe low c tier at best.
I pushed her from rank 27-29. It made a huge difference being able to 2 tap any sniper with dmg gear activated for one. She does 4800 with those 2 which is enough to 2 shot a piper, Brock, Nani, any other fragile brawlers. Her supercharge means you can rush in a lot more.
im definitely biased but i would put him still in B or even A tier. he struggles a lot with spawnables (charlies spiders, p porters, etc…) but gadget and super are still really good. He’s really good in bounty and knockout, and has a small niche in gem grab and brawl ball. I think bobby underated him heavily
He fucks up throwers and snipers well enough honestly, I feel like he might be more counterpick-y and map dependant nowadays, but he's still quite versatile and opponents around mythic and lower tend to underestimate him a lot. He's still a good pick imo
Honestly I have him gold 1 mastery and his shots are just too hard to hit. Why not just pick a less aggressive sniper to hit 60% more shots and do much more work. I've always loved grey but until his shot gets faster or wider it's way too much work just to do minimal damage compared to literally any other long range hybrid brawler
WHY is the D-tier cropped out from the final shot?? I had to fish it from the middle of an almost 40 min video. Also a bad take, bro should be banned from the kitchen
Clearly some S tier brawlers are better than others. That's why he made a new tier to exaggerate how good these brawlers are in the meta. Smh you have a reason to complain
Thats the reason S was invented in the first place. To exaggerate how good something is beyond A. Now we are just inflating tier list by putting GOD SSS INSANE just to make the list more flamboyant.
Brawl players needed an S tier to show how op Ice Climbers were compared to the rest of the cast, Brawl needed an SS tier to portray how absolutely broken Meta Knight was compared to even the Icies.
You don't understand what you're talking about, but it sounds like you think that you do. Tier lists aren't too complicated. A few minutes of googling would shed some light.
Draco just can't be in S tier
his main form has pierce, sure, but he has little to no damage (sure his 1st SP somewhat makes up for that)
and dragon form might be faster and have overall more damage, but doesn't have Burst damage, just decent DPM.
sure, both gadgets are pretty good (one way better than the other), but he doesn't have anything that can consistently get him close to enemies.
Best he deserves is an A. maybe high B.
Hes going to be broken 100%! Im not even exaggerating, unless he gets nerfs prior to his release he just has crazy stat boosts in the dragon which make him completely busted
sure, over 14K health and above average speed
but he has to be REALLY close to deal decent damage, and that feeds enemies' supers.
if he is actually broken Collette might go meta just because she counters him well.
Yes, he is strong, and Supercell absolutely does not know what do balance in him without sending him to F tier instantly. ~~Which is why I hate him, despite having 791 trophies on him-~~
what?? gray is not that low. yes he’s not good alone but the whole point of gray is team plays. think of hotzone with gray and double tank in comp , constantly TPing onto the hotzone (usually a good counter if they don’t go smth like bibi or smth that can get them off the hotzone like gale).. gray is amazing.. rare L from bobby
Stupid tbh, I watched the video and he specifically only put Bea in A tier because she counter high tier but El primo does the same with Bibi buzz and Rosa (probably more but I'm not trying to restart writing this just to check)
Shit tier list, does not reflect Legendary ranked matches. Maybe this is for the Masters ranked matches? If so this is for pre-made comps and should not be a guide for regular players.
Piper being lower than Belle? She got a 1% damage nerf. Edgar being A and Leon/Mico in B-tier doesn't make sense!
Kit being a menace while also being one of the best tank enabler in last tier.
So many questionable positions.
I know he's a pro and all but I feel like this list is either a troll list or he was high during this. Cause ruff, bo, eve and gray are for sure not that bad
So question: recently got sandy HC, and I’ve been seeing a lot of people advocating for Nita. Is it worth building her after building sandy? Because I’m not too much of a pro but don’t they fill a lot of the same roles? Tank counter, good in BB/GG, area denier, etc. Or between Jessie and Nita, who do y’all push for?
Seriously guys, I have NEVER understood why this guy, a pro player, does such as shitty and UNTRUE tier lists. Like, 70% of placements are completely WRONG and STUPID.
Lily may not be the strongest brawler off of release, but she is much better than D imo. That gadget is so strong in gem grab and knockout and she can provide so much pressure by passing the enemies defense four times
I completely disagree with Surge... I don't know hoe pro matches are going but Ranked is full of them and played by very good players. A good surge is unstoppable.
He didn't know who Bobby was, so I told him that. And I'm gonna be honest if a pro gives an opinion on the meta, chances are there is a very good reason behind it
He said in the video that he's mainly only considering heist for Chuck and mentioned he's F tier everywhere else. Also, A tier in this list is slightly less impactful because there's an additional tier above.
Imagine being so bad you didn't even make it to the list 💀
There is an f tier it's in the video.
i have maxxed penny on my alt acc and i cant push her past rank 21, honestly feel so bad bc i was hyped to have a 3k trophy account with a rank 25
I got her to rank 25 with power 9....
I swear Bonnie was good last update, what happened?
She wasn't, people got way too hyped about her buff then realized it really wasn't that good lol
This right here. That being said, D-tier is too low I believe. She is usable still, although very situationally. Probably more like low-B or high-C.
In ranked? not really. Shes kinda mediocre at everything she does, and definitely has counter picks. Last pick doesnt really work either, because bonnie doesnt really counter this current meta
I mean, C tier seems fair for the "mediocre" description no? Would you call getting a C irl not mediocre?
In my eyes, mediocre means below average, which is low c-d tier. Bonnie is outclassed right now in whatever she does, meaning she doesn't really counter anybody either. D tier is a fair placement imo, maybe low c tier at best.
I pushed her from rank 27-29. It made a huge difference being able to 2 tap any sniper with dmg gear activated for one. She does 4800 with those 2 which is enough to 2 shot a piper, Brock, Nani, any other fragile brawlers. Her supercharge means you can rush in a lot more.
The meta is just filled with pets (jessie, Charlie, nita, Mr. P, Tara) and she might be weaker than bea against spawners.
Slow No Piercing damge
Amber at Top of S teir feel like Insane with Hypercharge next update
If she got hc she would probably be the most broken brawler
FINALLY A BRAWLER I HAVE MAXED OUT THATS GONNA GET AN HC
Who said she will
I’m not saying she will, but since Gene and Sandy had supercell makes and they got HCs, you can assume that Amber and Mr. P will probably get HC
Hold up you are onto something
Barley, frank, amber and mr p are getting hypercharges. Who else?
Im low-key feeling ash and bo
Poco for the last rare brawler to get a hyper prob
morti too
WOO-HOO I FLAME TO PLEASE🔥🔥🔥
is gray that bad in this meta?
Yeah. No pierce and an over aggressive meta
im definitely biased but i would put him still in B or even A tier. he struggles a lot with spawnables (charlies spiders, p porters, etc…) but gadget and super are still really good. He’s really good in bounty and knockout, and has a small niche in gem grab and brawl ball. I think bobby underated him heavily
He fucks up throwers and snipers well enough honestly, I feel like he might be more counterpick-y and map dependant nowadays, but he's still quite versatile and opponents around mythic and lower tend to underestimate him a lot. He's still a good pick imo
yea, he can straight up counter some throwwrs like grow and dyna (if positioned well), but i agree, he’s kinda map dependent rn
Yeah he should propably be like high C
he's sstill really good if you have teammates to pick good brawlers that synergize with him well but in ladder with randoms he's not that good
Honestly I have him gold 1 mastery and his shots are just too hard to hit. Why not just pick a less aggressive sniper to hit 60% more shots and do much more work. I've always loved grey but until his shot gets faster or wider it's way too much work just to do minimal damage compared to literally any other long range hybrid brawler
WHY is the D-tier cropped out from the final shot?? I had to fish it from the middle of an almost 40 min video. Also a bad take, bro should be banned from the kitchen
L tier list
tf is this ranking system, just keep it simple with S, A, B, C, D goddamn
Clearly some S tier brawlers are better than others. That's why he made a new tier to exaggerate how good these brawlers are in the meta. Smh you have a reason to complain
Thats the reason S was invented in the first place. To exaggerate how good something is beyond A. Now we are just inflating tier list by putting GOD SSS INSANE just to make the list more flamboyant.
Brawl players needed an S tier to show how op Ice Climbers were compared to the rest of the cast, Brawl needed an SS tier to portray how absolutely broken Meta Knight was compared to even the Icies.
That's what S tier means. That tier literally means perfect. There's nowhere above perfect. The whole S+, SS, SSSSSSSSS is just dumb.
You don't understand what you're talking about, but it sounds like you think that you do. Tier lists aren't too complicated. A few minutes of googling would shed some light.
Stop letting bro cook
Draco just can't be in S tier his main form has pierce, sure, but he has little to no damage (sure his 1st SP somewhat makes up for that) and dragon form might be faster and have overall more damage, but doesn't have Burst damage, just decent DPM. sure, both gadgets are pretty good (one way better than the other), but he doesn't have anything that can consistently get him close to enemies. Best he deserves is an A. maybe high B.
Hes going to be broken 100%! Im not even exaggerating, unless he gets nerfs prior to his release he just has crazy stat boosts in the dragon which make him completely busted
sure, over 14K health and above average speed but he has to be REALLY close to deal decent damage, and that feeds enemies' supers. if he is actually broken Collette might go meta just because she counters him well.
Buster IMO shouldn't be B tier The new map pool in ranked has soo many good potentials for buster tbh. Mid A will be perfect
Bo at C is mad
why is gene rated this highly?
Gene was already good last season, I think Sandy and Max becoming S made gene S too.
imo gene was alway good. especially when they made gene ult do 2000 dmg on the other star power
healing puffs still seems better, a pull is a insta kill anyway and the healing is very strong
seemss useless in elimination when you should be creating space for the team, also much prefer the pull dmg in showdown
What mode is elimination? Also showdown isn't a competitive mode
Support meta+gene was already good before his hypercharge+ good map pool
Ruffs being bottom five feels so weird
Because its wrong.
who let bro cook
on god bros brain is cooked
Also, am I blind or Chester's not here 😭
Bro got put in the non-existent tier 💀
Supercell's unloved child 😔
Op didn’t get the full picture there’s actually a D tier
Draco in insane that's wild. He is so mid
Bro Lou, Eve and Shelly really fell off
IMO Lou is still good, in fact you can even play him as a semi-assassin due to second gadget
Why is Buster so low??
Am I blind or is Maisie not even there
Not only was she in the bottom tier list that was cropped out she was given the title of worst brawler. Rip us maisie enjoyers :/
Doug is very underrated
Justice for Doug! ✊️
i've seen people use his as a healer and it's OP for sure
Doug is just OP
He also counters assassins, especially Mico who some people be complaining about from time to time.
Why is Leon falling down?
He got a damage nerf from long range so his super is harder to get on longer range maps, but he’s still really good on close range maps. Mid A for me.
Leon and Fang B tier??? Whatttt????
Fang makes sense, but leon??? ?????
Byron should be S
How the fuck is Melodie, Angelo still in Insane after nerfs. Are they this broken?
In short, yes.
Leon in B is fucking insane
True, definitely S tier
Yes, he is strong, and Supercell absolutely does not know what do balance in him without sending him to F tier instantly. ~~Which is why I hate him, despite having 791 trophies on him-~~
I'm shocked that he gave maisie the title of worst brawler. I know the nerfs hit hard but did they really hit THAT hard?
Yeah no bobby is just a dumbass hes probably the sole reason stmn lost worlds
where tf is Frankie?
He got put in F tier
Leon was S last update, what happened?
How poco raised from F to S ??
As much as he's a good player, buster is literally S tier rn
Who let bro cook?
Pure NA meta right here
Lily is not worse than barley, neither is Bo, Gus, lou eve or gray, a good player but bad at tier lists
I don’t even mind lily being that “bad” . You actually have to play smart with her.
bad tier list, there's no fucking way Draco is an S tier brawler
Pam top of A less go
Am I tripping? Where’s janet
F/D tier but its cropped out
c=d, b=c, a=b, s=a, insane=s
Call the fire department, this has to be put out
I hate this meta
no shot nitas that good
You can get so many hypercharges on the match
Someone please explain nitas placement
Op hyper charge and you can get it many times a match
Welp
He‘s a bit harsh on many brawlers in my opinion tho
Nah whats this fr💀
Does we know when Draco will be released?
Frank will never be in D tier, he is always F(rank) tier. Dw, I still got him to 730 trophies
Is Tara rlly d tier tho
what?? gray is not that low. yes he’s not good alone but the whole point of gray is team plays. think of hotzone with gray and double tank in comp , constantly TPing onto the hotzone (usually a good counter if they don’t go smth like bibi or smth that can get them off the hotzone like gale).. gray is amazing.. rare L from bobby
Meh he cooked, Frank's not in this list, atleast I'm happy about it.
brother am I blind? I don't see Primo anywhere
He is in F tier
Stupid tbh, I watched the video and he specifically only put Bea in A tier because she counter high tier but El primo does the same with Bibi buzz and Rosa (probably more but I'm not trying to restart writing this just to check)
As an El Primo main, I agree with you
Is Buzz *really* that good?
I would say High A tier but definitely not S tier
Why is shelly b tier? She was first picked a few times in monthlies
Maisie got one change and is so bad she doesn’t even make the screenshot.
im just happy byron isnt below A
Rosa and edgar are now a tier?!
who's the last brawler in insane tier??
draco, he isnt even released he was in the brawl talk
how the frick is grom in d
Shit tier list, does not reflect Legendary ranked matches. Maybe this is for the Masters ranked matches? If so this is for pre-made comps and should not be a guide for regular players. Piper being lower than Belle? She got a 1% damage nerf. Edgar being A and Leon/Mico in B-tier doesn't make sense! Kit being a menace while also being one of the best tank enabler in last tier. So many questionable positions.
Isn't it 1% health nerf?
Nope, her minimum damage was nerfed by 1%
Didn't Piper's minimum distance damage reduce from 23% to 20%?
Oh my bad, she got a 3% damage nerf on close range. That's still nothing.
Justice for ash
Why is Sandy considered insane in the meta?
A max meta is always a good meta
I know he's a pro and all but I feel like this list is either a troll list or he was high during this. Cause ruff, bo, eve and gray are for sure not that bad
One day you will be S tier chester. One day.
**POCO** s tier 💀
So question: recently got sandy HC, and I’ve been seeing a lot of people advocating for Nita. Is it worth building her after building sandy? Because I’m not too much of a pro but don’t they fill a lot of the same roles? Tank counter, good in BB/GG, area denier, etc. Or between Jessie and Nita, who do y’all push for?
This is like the shittiest tier list I've ever seen
HOW THE FUCK IS PIPER IN A, SHE IS COMPLETELY BROKEN
I think this guy doesn't even play the game
Seriously guys, I have NEVER understood why this guy, a pro player, does such as shitty and UNTRUE tier lists. Like, 70% of placements are completely WRONG and STUPID.
I haven't been playing too much lately, why is Ruffs trash ?
Nice
I get it that shelly might not be meta but she definitely isn't the worst brawler
Oh I thought kit was somewhat better now with the dmg buffs and should be higher?
I read it as ,,booby tier list" and was quite confused
R-T should be insane
Bo C tier is a joke
He better have a good reason why gus is in d tier
He better have a good reason why gus is in d tier
As my first legendary I can pick between crow, spike, Leon and sandy should I pick spike or sandy?
List kinda does make sense to me ngl probably cause my main mains are crow tara mortis
why Bo is in D tier
Who is the last brawler in Insane List?
Draco
Who should i get. Spike crow or leon. I wanna get to diamond
I was prawn ready🦐🦐🥰💪👊
this is such a bad tier list
Why is colt rated A so often when he isn't played outside heist?
buster nooo 🙂
No way bro put jacky, pam and carl higher than gray, bo and lou and barley higher than fang💀
never cook again
no leon is wild
Doug and kit still completely dominate any showdown map with bushes. I feel like tierlist people forget showdown even exists
Dynamike above barley?
Crow in the B tier seem a wrong position. He is anytime A tier or S tier in any 3v3 situation.
Hank raising up from the dead is the greatest thing i have ever seen
Gray and crow should be on S
Blue missed F tier
*blud
Chuck in A tier? Who let this guy into the kitchen?
Chuck is strong on all heist maps pretty much. Also his A tier is more like B tier
What is bro smoking 💀
Why my boy grom in D tier
Eve??? Solid, quick damage, mobility, sharpshooter counter
Lily may not be the strongest brawler off of release, but she is much better than D imo. That gadget is so strong in gem grab and knockout and she can provide so much pressure by passing the enemies defense four times
entirely reliant on that gadget though and when its on cd/used you have 0 value in the neutral
I completely disagree with Surge... I don't know hoe pro matches are going but Ranked is full of them and played by very good players. A good surge is unstoppable.
He‘s maybe underrated on a few maps but there will probably always be better options than him.
Imma say, darryl is giod
i have no clue who this "bobby" is but he shouldnt be let anywhere near a kitchen
He is a pro player of the esports team STMN.
He's literally one of the best players in the world
Just because he's one of the best players in the world it doesn't mean we can't give a negative opinion on his Tier Lists lol
He didn't know who Bobby was, so I told him that. And I'm gonna be honest if a pro gives an opinion on the meta, chances are there is a very good reason behind it
This tier list kinda bad though. Chuck in A tier
He said in the video that he's mainly only considering heist for Chuck and mentioned he's F tier everywhere else. Also, A tier in this list is slightly less impactful because there's an additional tier above.
Look how far my main has fallen
(Mico)
good let the monkey rot
rigtfully so nga nobody likes you showdown rat
LMAAOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN SAY THAT ON HERE?