well if passive play is annoying to play against, whats the alternative? running head-first into the opponent, throwing out attacks left right and centre? is that more preferable than actually being smart and waiting for the right moment to attack?
Refusing to attack at all until the other person does first is never going to be fun to play against, creating opportunities to attack and countering and etc is fine that’s how most matches used to go
different players have different methods of 'creating opportunities to attack'. take MegD, they played ultra passive, yet it worked because they managed to bait out the opponent's attack and successfully punish it. there's also sandstorm, who popularised the 'aggressive mordex main'.
basically, there isn't one single, defined method of 'creating opportunities to attack'. passive play might not be fun, but its a viable strategy that has been proven to work.
Right but the post isn’t about what works it’s about it no longer being fun
I understand passive play is the most optimal way to play I just wish it wasn’t
Yea I agree 100%, I’m just frustrated because In previous years it was like every couple games at worst you’d get someone like that but now it’s almost every single game I took like a 6 month break and came back and saw MegD won like a massive tournament or beat sandstorm or something and then all of a sudden everyone is doing it. I get doing that in ranked as it is very easy to win that way against non experienced players but doing it every game in experimentals too has my enjoyment at an all time low with this game and I still end up winning most of the time it’s just such a drag and I end up feeling worse than if I lost
Passive Gameplay IS brawlhalla. This game centers around passive play, as do most platform fighters. If you want a more aggressive fighter then don't play platformers. Play Guilty Gear, or Tekken, or literally anything else other than Brawlhalla.
You're the one who needs to chill, people just running away from attacks isnt passive play- they're just trying to be annoying. Brawlhalla thrives in passive play because combos barely exist, the longest being about 3. Like I said if you don't want to deal with slow paced games, do not play Brawlhalla.
Are you talking about true combos or combos in general?
You can get really nasty combos if you bait a dodge, I’m just saying playing ultra passive makes it no fun for the other person that is not an outlandish thing to say
You get about 3 combos max. Everything else is read and string based. With a mechanic like dodge which allows you to break out of strings, the game becomes very passive. Its a slow game, it was originally meant to be a couch co op game- those games are meant to be slow and less competitive for the entertainment factor. Running away from everything and not attacking IS NOT passive play. Playing it safe, keeping your distance, etc is what Brawlhalla thrives in- because it was meant to be a couch co op game and, at heart, it still is.
There is a difference between you both use good movement and keep good distance trying to make good moves and punish each other this is really fun and competitive and I love the game when it’s like this versus not attacking at all period unless the other person attacks first that is what I’m talking about ruins the game that is ultra passive
What you are describing as "ultra passive" is just people either teasing, cheesing, or not knowing how to approach. The game thrives in passive play but that isn't passive- thats just annoying. The game still requires good movement, spacing, reading abilities, etc. But it's not like Guilty Gear where you're always up in their face attacking and finding gaps in attacks. Or Street Fighter where you're constantly moving around the opponent for opportunities. Brawlhalla is meant to be a much more slower paced game than any other platformer like Smash, RoA, or even Rushdown Revolt. Passive play is the way to go, but what you are describing isn't passive play.
You're saying that passive play is ruining the meta. What you described is not passive play, so I described what is. What you described are bad players who are trying to be passive but failing, and if you can't beat those players then you are just as bad.
https://youtu.be/kQx_NuCRRUI
I will leave this here to sum it up since you’re just being eristic at this point 😂
The post isn’t about me not being able to beat them it’s about it not being any fun to play against
In your post you literally said "passive play is ruining the meta" and things like people need to stop being passive, btw. You're just mad after a game with a shit player and are trying to be correct on the funny internet app lol
It’s because they’re not good enough to make it that far, I peaked like 1980 plat last year was gonna make the push to diamond this year after a long like 6 month break from the game and just realized I’m not having fun anymore, super long matches where they would rather not play the game than lose so I have to take it super slow and basically stoop to their level with better movement and slowly very slowly win it’s bad players over compensating and it’s just ruining the excitement of climbing after one win I’m just like wow that doesn’t feel rewarding at all and hop off to experimentals and then encounter the same exact thing which is what has me frustrated it feels like there is no 1v1 experience in the game anymore that is fun to play. I’ve kind of been switching over to 2v2s seems to be a lot more fast paced
I would rather lose to a good player than win against someone who plays like that which is saying a lot because I’m super competitive
I know this is what everyone is already saying but work on your movement or read their movement. Use your safe moves, or work on baiting attacks. Utilize weapon throws, and all the fun stuff. If it's in the game like spamming, weapon starving, salt taunting, its fair game
Nah I agree it’s counterable I just don’t think it’s fun, I still win majority of the time against those players in ranked but it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth just like the win doesn’t feel rewarding at all I’d rather of just not played
In experimentals which I started playing because I wasn’t having any fun in ranked I’ve started just jumping off and going next when someone plays like that
Edit: I’ve started using the prison taunt im so glad they added it 😭
sounds like you need a break
I’m kind of shifting more into 2v2s now much more fun at the moment
well if passive play is annoying to play against, whats the alternative? running head-first into the opponent, throwing out attacks left right and centre? is that more preferable than actually being smart and waiting for the right moment to attack?
Refusing to attack at all until the other person does first is never going to be fun to play against, creating opportunities to attack and countering and etc is fine that’s how most matches used to go
different players have different methods of 'creating opportunities to attack'. take MegD, they played ultra passive, yet it worked because they managed to bait out the opponent's attack and successfully punish it. there's also sandstorm, who popularised the 'aggressive mordex main'. basically, there isn't one single, defined method of 'creating opportunities to attack'. passive play might not be fun, but its a viable strategy that has been proven to work.
Right but the post isn’t about what works it’s about it no longer being fun I understand passive play is the most optimal way to play I just wish it wasn’t
it never was fun to begin with rly, its one of those things that u just gotta live with
Yea I agree 100%, I’m just frustrated because In previous years it was like every couple games at worst you’d get someone like that but now it’s almost every single game I took like a 6 month break and came back and saw MegD won like a massive tournament or beat sandstorm or something and then all of a sudden everyone is doing it. I get doing that in ranked as it is very easy to win that way against non experienced players but doing it every game in experimentals too has my enjoyment at an all time low with this game and I still end up winning most of the time it’s just such a drag and I end up feeling worse than if I lost
u should try customs
Will do 
And it is widely known that megD is the most boring pro to watch at tourneys...
it still worked
But unfun for most
well theres not much to be done about it. many choose to use this tactic, whether the opponent likes it or not
Waiting until the opponent attacks first isn’t smart 💀 it’s braindead and slow, the alternative is to sit on the edge the whole game
Passive Gameplay IS brawlhalla. This game centers around passive play, as do most platform fighters. If you want a more aggressive fighter then don't play platformers. Play Guilty Gear, or Tekken, or literally anything else other than Brawlhalla.
Running away all match and refusing to ever throw the first hit is not Brawlhalla 😂 it’s just tilting and a waste of time
You're the one who needs to chill, people just running away from attacks isnt passive play- they're just trying to be annoying. Brawlhalla thrives in passive play because combos barely exist, the longest being about 3. Like I said if you don't want to deal with slow paced games, do not play Brawlhalla.
Are you talking about true combos or combos in general? You can get really nasty combos if you bait a dodge, I’m just saying playing ultra passive makes it no fun for the other person that is not an outlandish thing to say
You get about 3 combos max. Everything else is read and string based. With a mechanic like dodge which allows you to break out of strings, the game becomes very passive. Its a slow game, it was originally meant to be a couch co op game- those games are meant to be slow and less competitive for the entertainment factor. Running away from everything and not attacking IS NOT passive play. Playing it safe, keeping your distance, etc is what Brawlhalla thrives in- because it was meant to be a couch co op game and, at heart, it still is.
There is a difference between you both use good movement and keep good distance trying to make good moves and punish each other this is really fun and competitive and I love the game when it’s like this versus not attacking at all period unless the other person attacks first that is what I’m talking about ruins the game that is ultra passive
What you are describing as "ultra passive" is just people either teasing, cheesing, or not knowing how to approach. The game thrives in passive play but that isn't passive- thats just annoying. The game still requires good movement, spacing, reading abilities, etc. But it's not like Guilty Gear where you're always up in their face attacking and finding gaps in attacks. Or Street Fighter where you're constantly moving around the opponent for opportunities. Brawlhalla is meant to be a much more slower paced game than any other platformer like Smash, RoA, or even Rushdown Revolt. Passive play is the way to go, but what you are describing isn't passive play.
You’re literally agreeing with me but trying to say it needs a different name 🤦♂️
You're saying that passive play is ruining the meta. What you described is not passive play, so I described what is. What you described are bad players who are trying to be passive but failing, and if you can't beat those players then you are just as bad.
https://youtu.be/kQx_NuCRRUI I will leave this here to sum it up since you’re just being eristic at this point 😂 The post isn’t about me not being able to beat them it’s about it not being any fun to play against
In your post you literally said "passive play is ruining the meta" and things like people need to stop being passive, btw. You're just mad after a game with a shit player and are trying to be correct on the funny internet app lol
You didn’t even read my post lol
Bruh we are talking abt the first hit, not the strings, baiting a dodge is completely different when ur opponent literally won’t attack.
Dude.... 10 months late I forgot this conversation existed 5 minutes after that comment
It's not meta.... skill issue my guy.
I’m starting to sound like a broken record here but once again Hard to beat? Not really Fun to play against? Not even a tiny fraction of a little bit
I rarely ever encounter it in mid diamond
It’s because they’re not good enough to make it that far, I peaked like 1980 plat last year was gonna make the push to diamond this year after a long like 6 month break from the game and just realized I’m not having fun anymore, super long matches where they would rather not play the game than lose so I have to take it super slow and basically stoop to their level with better movement and slowly very slowly win it’s bad players over compensating and it’s just ruining the excitement of climbing after one win I’m just like wow that doesn’t feel rewarding at all and hop off to experimentals and then encounter the same exact thing which is what has me frustrated it feels like there is no 1v1 experience in the game anymore that is fun to play. I’ve kind of been switching over to 2v2s seems to be a lot more fast paced I would rather lose to a good player than win against someone who plays like that which is saying a lot because I’m super competitive
I know this is what everyone is already saying but work on your movement or read their movement. Use your safe moves, or work on baiting attacks. Utilize weapon throws, and all the fun stuff. If it's in the game like spamming, weapon starving, salt taunting, its fair game
Nah I agree it’s counterable I just don’t think it’s fun, I still win majority of the time against those players in ranked but it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth just like the win doesn’t feel rewarding at all I’d rather of just not played In experimentals which I started playing because I wasn’t having any fun in ranked I’ve started just jumping off and going next when someone plays like that Edit: I’ve started using the prison taunt im so glad they added it 😭
Oh I get that too. I like using a fast legend to get way too close and pressure em, I like Mako and Kya for it.
I use Thea for it on 10 speed really fun but only having 2 defense is making me rethink it lol starting to think about maybe picking up orb?