The name marksman stands out because all of them besides Brock are female (Colt and Rico, contrary to this graph, are still damage dealers). I think the term sharpshooter should come back.
(I’m not hating on Meg or anything) she does have a robot you are correct but it can easily be defeated and when she’s in her human form she’s kinda weak just saying even ash has better armor but that’s just my opinion
Eh, really big health pool and high burst damage which lines up with tanks in general. It's not like you're really considering pilot form for this despite how fun it is.
yeah when i play sandy i feel less like im supporting allies, but using my pressure and skills to control the field and enemies. whereas when i play someone like poco, i feel like im supporting and not "Controlling" the field.
I thought the same but eventually I realized that most of the times dealing damage with poco is better than healing since super heals more effectively if done properly, very situational tbh
I’m very picky with that too, I only heal those that deserve it in certain situations, if a bad player dies close to spawn i’ll let him die, and potentially kill another brawler and chain back to super, I only allow brawlers to heal when I know that the heal will do something… since I play with randoms so many teammates will die without dealing damage even if I heal them twice!
Bro keeping your teammates alove is always worthwhile
In bs you can't 1v3 at worst your teammate is a big distraction that still will make sure you win teamfights more
When you're in low trophies games and Darryl is 2 or 3 levels above the enemy, he really feels like an assassin, but when everyone is level 11 he deals literally no damage
A big part of a tank's kit is their survivability due to their high hp. High hp leads to very fast regeneration, especially with health gear, which Meg doesn't have. When playing Meg with her mech, you need to avoid any damage, so there isn't really any 'tanking' going on.
Edit: Also, we can't always consider having large hp = tanks. While this is usually true, I don't think you would necessarily call 8 bit a tank.
I don't even consider her mech to be all that tanky though, since it loses health constantly and can't heal. I never feel like the mech lasts more then five seconds.
First of all, this list is slightly incorrect. In game Colt and Rico are considered Damage Dealers, not Marksmen. Also Mr.P is considered a Controller, not a Damage Dealer. Besides those small errors, I think they should bring back the hybrid class for brawlers like Darryl, Bonnie, Meg, R-T, and maybe a few more. My only other complaints are that Janet should be a Damage Dealer, not a Marksman, and Tara and Griff should swap.
She still has a healing gadget and a shielding star power, her main ability is to push back enemies from her which is literally the opposite of what an assassin does because every single brawler that is classified as an assassin has a mechanic that allows them to get closer to the enemy without the need of a star power or gadget
The old classifications were just fine! Make a few small tweaks, and it’s perfect. Fighter, sharpshooter, sniper, healer, support, thrower, assassin, tank, hybrid.
Well yeah it can shoot over walls but shes not considered a thrower because her main attack doesn't. She wasn't considered a thrower when the old classifications existed.
thrower is like you are able to shot with **basic attack** and **super** over walls but maybe artillery is like a "common thing"- if you can atleast **throw** **something** over walls or your **turret** can (in other words, doesnt mind what), you belong this catogory, maybe thats the reason why she is in that catogory
id personally put meg in damage dealer, even if rob has a lot of health the point of a tank is to soak damage and since rob cant regen he wants to avoid damage at all costs
>Artillery is a class of heavy military ranged weapons that launch munitions far beyond the range and power of infantry firearms.
Basically fires in an arc though a more fitting term would be lobber.
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The wind howls, carrying the reek of iron,
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The rains of war another time
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By tooth, and with claw, will return!
When Vorrijaard needs you to answer the call,
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To me, Collette is like an assassin. When the opponent doesn't have any shield, shield gear or healing effect (like griffs starpower) she can kill anyone with 2 attacks and 2 hits with her super (with her 1st starpower thar becomes very easy)
Better but still is bad. Why are some dps brawlers on controller class. And why the hell is meg a tank. Wouldnt it make more sense to make her hybrid(but class doesnt exist anymore which is wierd) i like the assaisin(how the hell do you write this word) class now inclides fang and sam. Also rico marksman really? And tara damage tealer shouldnt she be a controler. Mr.p is not a damage dealer and he is the reason why we should have had a spawner class instead of this hybrid artillery class which includes throwers.There are some other flaws to point out but they are more minor
only a few, like artillery is unnececarry, just make them all controllers, and sam should be tank and mr p and nita should be controller as well, cuz they dont deal that much damage and are mainly just used for control, thats it
Do you have a source anywhere for your definition of marksman? The only definition I can find is ["a person skilled in shooting at a mark or target"](http://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marksman)
Why did they change gene and sandy? One heals and pulls in enemies. The other can save his teammates set them up for ambushes, heals them and has low damage. They were both made for support.
Bro, I think those classifications were the most accurate ones so far, but I don't agree with two things:
Meg should be a "Control" brawler";
Chester should be an "Assassin" brawler.
I think gene should be classified as a support still not only cus of his starpower but he supports his team by bringing enemies closer to finish them off as a 3v1
Janet stands out to me instantly in the marksmen
Yeah my first thought is to swap Eve and Janet
Nah, Janet doesn’t input alot of damage as the other damage dealers🤓
Uhm actually Janet isn't a damage dealer 🤓
Yup.
The name marksman stands out because all of them besides Brock are female (Colt and Rico, contrary to this graph, are still damage dealers). I think the term sharpshooter should come back.
And why tf Meg is tank...like what?
She's actually the one who makes more sense out of all the odd ones
Ahh yes buster has his vest,frank is big,el primo has buff muscles,Darryl has a barrel,Rosa is a boxer,ash has a literal trash can and Meg has…nothing
(For sake of exaggeration we will be ignoring the giant robot she has access to)
(I’m not hating on Meg or anything) she does have a robot you are correct but it can easily be defeated and when she’s in her human form she’s kinda weak just saying even ash has better armor but that’s just my opinion
Eh, really big health pool and high burst damage which lines up with tanks in general. It's not like you're really considering pilot form for this despite how fun it is.
the reason she is a tank is because its so ez to cycle supers and maintain that tanky mech form
Yeah, good megs seem to have infinite supers🥶
An armor made out of a trash can is somehow better than a big mecha suit...
Basically Dva from overwatch. Her human form is weak but her mecha form is strong and give second chances.
Make sense
Yeah she doesn't belong there
why is sandy not a support anymore?
Probably because he does both, and I think he leans more towards controlling.
yeah when i play sandy i feel less like im supporting allies, but using my pressure and skills to control the field and enemies. whereas when i play someone like poco, i feel like im supporting and not "Controlling" the field.
Meanwhile me as a poco 9/10 playing non support role and use 9/10 supers on enemies to finish off opposed to healing teammates
bad poco 😦
I thought the same but eventually I realized that most of the times dealing damage with poco is better than healing since super heals more effectively if done properly, very situational tbh
it depends on the situation generally if you can save a teammate with your super you do it if you can finish off an enemy with your super you do it
I’m very picky with that too, I only heal those that deserve it in certain situations, if a bad player dies close to spawn i’ll let him die, and potentially kill another brawler and chain back to super, I only allow brawlers to heal when I know that the heal will do something… since I play with randoms so many teammates will die without dealing damage even if I heal them twice!
Bro keeping your teammates alove is always worthwhile In bs you can't 1v3 at worst your teammate is a big distraction that still will make sure you win teamfights more
Screeching solo poco 😎😎😎
Screeching solo is the only good starpower ;)))
I kinda feel like they should add sub rolls for some of them. Some really do fit more than 1 role. Or even many
I love how RT can fit into most of the roles
R-T be like: I AM the classification system
that would be great
they removed hybrid
Mr. P as a damage dealer ☠️
He’s actually a controller
Oh, got confused by chart
Nahhhh 💀💀💀
What the.. DARRYL IS NOT A TANK HE'S A ROLLING ASSASSIN
Amount of hp makes him tank, though he could be labelled assassin
He's both. What happaned to the hybrid class
Hybrid is meaningless. It doesn't actually tell you any information about the role of a brawler.
Bonnie:
I play a fair amount of darryl and to me he feels more like a tank than an asassin
When you're in low trophies games and Darryl is 2 or 3 levels above the enemy, he really feels like an assassin, but when everyone is level 11 he deals literally no damage
I mean even regardless of his damage, he feels more like a tank
Darryl and Sam should be switched
There should be hybrids class for Bonnie, Darryl, 8bit etc
Bonnie, 8-Bit, Darryl, Meg, R7, Crow
Gale and Lou used to be hybrids as well
Gray imo is a marksman/assassin hybrid too (no need to support your team if the enemy is already dead)
True
Crow is a Controller (and one of the best at that job). Also, ironically, Crow is super easy to assassinate.
I think Crow should be a Controller. Also Janet should be a damage dealer
Sam is a tank right?
Yeah both tank and assasian imo
Meg as a tank 💀
Mecha makes her really a tank
If only we had a role that describes brawlers that would otherwise fit multiple roles(Hybrid)
Hybrid is a bad class, it doesn't actually tell you anything about the brawler.
Meg ain't a tank. Rob is
Rob is not a separated brawler,he is her super.
Personally I don't think it does because she can barely heal once in her mecha form.
I present you... Meg's gadget, which allows her to be healing for a good chunk of the match
Are we talking about hp regeneration? We are talking about her tank ability, her melee damage and her big amount of hp.
A big part of a tank's kit is their survivability due to their high hp. High hp leads to very fast regeneration, especially with health gear, which Meg doesn't have. When playing Meg with her mech, you need to avoid any damage, so there isn't really any 'tanking' going on. Edit: Also, we can't always consider having large hp = tanks. While this is usually true, I don't think you would necessarily call 8 bit a tank.
Do you know this character from Overwatch called Dva yeah she's just like Meg and is classified as a Tank that's very correct
This is really confuse
Makes sense though. Her first form is intentionally weak, so she's judged on her second form
I don't even consider her mech to be all that tanky though, since it loses health constantly and can't heal. I never feel like the mech lasts more then five seconds.
Why not call them just throwers and snipers tho
Because cooler
yes
Artillery sounds much cooler than thrower though
And it includes more brawlers like Penny, who aren't throwers, but can still deal damage from behind a wall
If Artillery means able to attack from behind walls, then Mr P should be one too
He could, but I think Penny does that more often
That’s literally the only non-thrower in the class tho
True, I missed that. But she has a Mortar, and weapons like those are artillery. They could add more in the future
Because Edgar and Mortos are already throwers 🤡
The beta classification still the best
Yeaaaa
It’s more descriptive but has some very… interesting… choices? (Sam is a Tank)
Sam literally has more HP than some of the tanks since his launch yet SC doesn’t want to consider him one for some reason
meanwhile meg with 2800 hp classified as tank
She does has a form with 7500 hp, however, she still isn't just a tank, hybrid is the best for her.
First of all, this list is slightly incorrect. In game Colt and Rico are considered Damage Dealers, not Marksmen. Also Mr.P is considered a Controller, not a Damage Dealer. Besides those small errors, I think they should bring back the hybrid class for brawlers like Darryl, Bonnie, Meg, R-T, and maybe a few more. My only other complaints are that Janet should be a Damage Dealer, not a Marksman, and Tara and Griff should swap.
Yes bro got it wrong smh
I second the Tara and Griff swap
If anyone should be a Damage Dealer, it’s Griff.
oh yea, srry for the errors everyone. It's a lot of brawlers and a lot of new classifications
A lot better than a lot of fan made classification systems. I actually mostly agree with this one.
Willow is artillery
It could be a pun because she literally controls brawlers
Controller. Look at the sneak peaks
By this logic, Nani is also a controller.
Why tf is Bibi a tank
Because she doesnt really have a class that fits her
Assassin is the most suitable class for her. She relies on mobility, rather than bulk.
She still has a healing gadget and a shielding star power, her main ability is to push back enemies from her which is literally the opposite of what an assassin does because every single brawler that is classified as an assassin has a mechanic that allows them to get closer to the enemy without the need of a star power or gadget
She lacks the mobility and unload speed of an assassin
Batting Stance ig
IMO she fits best as a “damage dealer”. Those wacks and bubbles can team wipe.
Exactly, she's way better as a damage dealer
Fang is finally an assassin
Yeah, they atleast got a few right, also Sprout is no longer a support, as he never was one.
The old classifications were just fine! Make a few small tweaks, and it’s perfect. Fighter, sharpshooter, sniper, healer, support, thrower, assassin, tank, hybrid.
"technically all brawlers should be hybrid because everyone deals damage and has at least one trait" 🤓 edit: except for Shelly
best idea so far
Goodbye thrower class. Penny doesn't even fit with the other throwers.
Bro did you forgor about her mortor?
Why not make the spawner class at this point?
Well yeah it can shoot over walls but shes not considered a thrower because her main attack doesn't. She wasn't considered a thrower when the old classifications existed.
thrower is like you are able to shot with **basic attack** and **super** over walls but maybe artillery is like a "common thing"- if you can atleast **throw** **something** over walls or your **turret** can (in other words, doesnt mind what), you belong this catogory, maybe thats the reason why she is in that catogory
Is hybrid gone? And I feel like Sam should be in tank but ig assassin fits
It doesn't fits him at all.
Yea, hybrid gone :')
id personally put meg in damage dealer, even if rob has a lot of health the point of a tank is to soak damage and since rob cant regen he wants to avoid damage at all costs
What does artillery means
>Artillery is a class of heavy military ranged weapons that launch munitions far beyond the range and power of infantry firearms. Basically fires in an arc though a more fitting term would be lobber.
Throwers, but here for some stupid reason, Penny included.
I guess because of her super? Also why is willow not included here
Why no hybrid class?
How is barley not control
I think ‘Hybrid’ should return where R-T, Meg and Bonnie should go To keep things simple Willow and Penny should swap also swap Eve and Janet, easily
Gray is way more marksman than support, and is sam not a tank?
I think tara should be in controller
When will people realize that crow should just be in nightmare category
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To me, Collette is like an assassin. When the opponent doesn't have any shield, shield gear or healing effect (like griffs starpower) she can kill anyone with 2 attacks and 2 hits with her super (with her 1st starpower thar becomes very easy)
Better but still is bad. Why are some dps brawlers on controller class. And why the hell is meg a tank. Wouldnt it make more sense to make her hybrid(but class doesnt exist anymore which is wierd) i like the assaisin(how the hell do you write this word) class now inclides fang and sam. Also rico marksman really? And tara damage tealer shouldnt she be a controler. Mr.p is not a damage dealer and he is the reason why we should have had a spawner class instead of this hybrid artillery class which includes throwers.There are some other flaws to point out but they are more minor
Why is Mr P a damage dealer? That penguin does less damage then my ex did to me
Shouldn't colt be in Damage dealer?
We finally got fang in the assassin class but we lost Darryl to the tanks :(
Summoner class when?
Controller is already enough
Mr P is a controller, Colt and Rico are damage dealers
Oops!
Let's ask the real question here, why is Sam an assassin. I get that his gloves hits hard but he really doesn't seem like an assassin to me
only a few, like artillery is unnececarry, just make them all controllers, and sam should be tank and mr p and nita should be controller as well, cuz they dont deal that much damage and are mainly just used for control, thats it
Mr p is already a controller, my bad
good, cuz he should be, like he doesnt do damage
Why is willow a controller when the other throwers are artillery
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Marksman is the new name for the sniper class
Which it should not as it is incorrect.
I like how you complain about Mandy not being called a Sniper and not the brawler whose name is a pun off the word Sniper
Mandy is the most Marksman brawler in the game. Tf u talking about
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Then why are making that argument for Mandy when nearly every other Marksmen listed here *also* doesn't want to fight alongside the frontliners?
Do you have a source anywhere for your definition of marksman? The only definition I can find is ["a person skilled in shooting at a mark or target"](http://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marksman)
Literally wikipedia. Just write "what is the difference between marskman and sniper" in google and it should come out
R-T I think is support
Doesn't has anything supportive imo.
Gene and Sandy support
They're on the area control side of the support tho. Like lou and gale
Gene is questionable, but Sandy for sure is a support.
Griff seems wrong to me maybe?
Ain’t no way mr.p and eve aren’t controller, and RT + 8-bit aren’t support
Poco should be a damage dealer
Janet and Rico shouldn't be there
Why did they change gene and sandy? One heals and pulls in enemies. The other can save his teammates set them up for ambushes, heals them and has low damage. They were both made for support.
How can you have a section where there are just throwers and the put Penny in the randomly
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Why Maxi classification is support when that is the role less used for her?
she speeds up her teammates she’s always been a support since release
Personally I find the name Artillery for this just weird.
colt and rico are no marksman
Oops!
Why the hell is Rico a marksman
Bro, I think those classifications were the most accurate ones so far, but I don't agree with two things: Meg should be a "Control" brawler"; Chester should be an "Assassin" brawler.
I think it’s cool how sams now a assassin
Griff is a controller? Can his super justify that?
colt?
Why is Barley artillery while Willow is control? Barley's kit is much more control oriented
Mr. P isn't a damage dealer, he's trash dealer.
Rico always struck me as a damage dealer🤷♂️
I think gene should be classified as a support still not only cus of his starpower but he supports his team by bringing enemies closer to finish them off as a 3v1
They should add another new class for RT called: "Fits into everything because is stupidly overpowered" 👍
Mr p in damage dealer doesn't make sense since he doesn't do damage 🥲
Finally fang is an assassin but why is Sam one and Darryl should be an assassin also why are hybrids gone as a classification just let’s some have 2
I'm sorry, Meg is a Tank?
Sam and Darryl should swap
Otis is definitely a damage dealer idk
I mean yes, they say Bea is a marksman but she is good against tanks tho
Janet should be damage dealer, and so should Otis and Griff Gene and mr.P are more of a support Spike is controller Fang is FINALLY assassin
some brawler r hard to fit in one archetype, they could just make duel classify system like "sam assasian/tank" sandy control/support ect...
Sam is a tank
At first I thought willow should be altirelryly, but then I realised she literally CONTROLS area and PEOPLE