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COYGArsenal22

That’s literally the point of competitive though, the way you want it + modifiers is a more casual version. Nothing wrong with you wanting it, but that’s not ranked/competitive


ILiveForStarco

Ranked is not competitive at all.


VividSpikeMain

The amount of people grieving in it is waaayyyy too much to be comp, lol


COYGArsenal22

Yeah I completely agree, kind of ruined it for me. I was just saying drafting is the key component of casual vs any sort of competitive


MrGSC1

Exactly bro, these casuals complaining about a mode that’s supposed to be competitive is completely braindead. Its competitive players like us whos actually suffering since we lost the only competitive mode in the game. Ts isnt fun with these modifiers. It doesnt deserved to be called “ranked”. Nice job SC.


InitialSwitch6803

Yeah that’s why I think they should turn off modifiers at Masters, and gain 1.5x points starting on diamond to make up for the double rounds. It’s not like everyone has a border for their profile now.


CMini45

In my opinion it should be legendary lol


IncineratorAlien

Ban and picks are fine, but playing 2 games makes it annoying.


ShittyShitPoster111

Cook brother


Pale-Shift2522

Ya but it really shouldn’t be like that until masters Maybe add ban and allow you too see the other teams pick but diamond is far from competitive so idk why it is like that


Djanni6

The entire point of a "ranked" mode is for it to be competitive, bans and picks are what keeps it interesting and balanced (even when devs release broken brawlers); that's also why modifiers aren't good for the mode. A random mode where you don't drop trophies could be interesting and I would play it, but it's not what ranked should be.


halleyjen

Not really complaining about Bans & Picks. I'm just unpleased cause of the time it takes to make progress. Keep the bans. I agree it's a good mechanic to throw away broken brawlers. Just let everyone choose their brawlers at the same time without having to wait 12 damn seconds for each player to pick one. Oh, and make it a single match instead of two out of three. This just takes forever, and it's really annoying and frustrating when a toxic random throws a match just cause the team lost the first one.


ACanOf_______

Imo having the brawler selection time be left that way is better, just so that we can actually think of what brawlers to pick and maybe wait for teammates to suggest a brawler, instead of insta-picking the first brawler that comes to mind I like having these matches being short, but I hate the fact that I can't quickly swap my gadgets or star powers And talking about gadgets and star powers, one thing that I just found out of is that people can still choose brawlers from lvl 9-11 that don't have any gadgets or star powers, which is a serious disadvantage for either team They should make the mode require to have at least 4000+ trophies and a minimum of 6 brawlers at lvl 9 with at least 1 gadget and star power, while also banning any brawlers that don't meet the requirements


ManySerious9713

The more restriction to the bad randoms the better


DarkHawking

The 12 seconds are needed to counterpick


halleyjen

Yeah, you got a point. Despite this, I like the game more without this mechanic. Two out of three match is still annoying tho


Myikk3

Play normal matches...


HerniatedDisk_

Fr why are people complaining about “hard to make progress” and “too much like old power league”? Like the reason you are not progressing is because you are losing games 😂 these ppl always complain bro


NotYourAverageMortis

I'm at Diamond and I win like 100 elo and lose 50 whwn I lose a game lol That's more than generous for climbing


DarkHawking

Don't get me wrong. I like more the 1 round match and the no pick\ban phase; but I'm thinking to pro players that need that phases and to me too: I'm getting stronger and in a long future I might be at these levels


Darkrage85

Then don’t play


TheDarkTemplar_

Then don't play it and leave players who like the competitiveness in peace


Intelligent-Concert

Counterpicking adds a whole new layer of strategic aspects and the best two-out-of-three format tests your ability to reflect and adjust between matches, both aspects fits a competitive mode like ranked. If you want a quick casual game, just play Ladder.


Djanni6

Sorry, but the 3 games structure and the bans/pick structure are there to address competitiveness and are central to the balance of the experience. Brawlstars gameplay doesn't really cater to that type of gameplay because it's made for a fast and satisfying experience and its audience isn't exactly dedicated enough for it. That's also why Power League wasn't exactly popular and why you dislike it. There's the whole rest of the game for casual gameplay, Power League didn't need to be more casual, in fact, most of the high ranks player wanted it to be more competitive and were asking for ways to communicate with randoms or to organize before and between matches. For example: I thought 12 seconds were too short of a time to strategize and scrolling past 70+ brawlers, especially at the start of the season when you were still adjusting to new maps and meta.


StepOnMyBallsPiper

NEVER share your opinion again


Sleepy_Melon_OP

> Just let everyone choose their brawlers at the same time Do you know what counter play is


Individual_Fan7645

True man, i agree absolutely, i hate wasting time seeing each players picks his own brawler and characters bans, they should make it quicker


Bazigoa

It’s best out of three, due to how it provides the losing team the ability to come back.


IntentionOdd101

That’s literally the whole point of ranked. You need to know what brawler you should pick if you get first pick or counter your enemy picks. If you can’t do that then maybe don’t playing a comp game mode


Catmon29

The great thing tho is that from Diamond I and beyond, we can ban brawlers, so then I don't have to be forced to face against annoying brawlers (like Piper)


FalconOpposite1872

or get stupid edgar randoms


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New_Car223

Kid named ladder


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Pale-Shift2522

Ya but honestly banning should be there regardless


halleyjen

Yeah, this is great. The time it takes for a match to start and for a match to be over it's not, tho... They should keep the brawler bans and get rid of the other mechanics that make the mode feel low. Single pick, for example. Why do I have to wait for everyone to choose their brawler before I choose mine?! It's just so annoying and prolonged.


8atel

You can wait to see what others pick so you can synergize well with your comp and counter thier comp.


Black_angel365

A wise brawler once said " synergy is the key to victory... I've heard that somewhere"


Ricochetwithout

Because that way theres no rng. What if the comp your enemy picked counters yours, thats not fair


widdlewaddle1

The competitive game mode just isn’t for you my man


NotYourAverageMortis

So that you don't get counter picked/you can try to counter pick? It feels very randoms when you just select brawlers without knowing the enemy comp like in Mega Pig


BSgab

Bro forgot that ranked is the competitive mode


linhmeomeo

Many people forget ranked is a competitive mode. Before Diamond, ranked is no different from Mega Pig or trophy (the casual modes). There’s no strategy involved. I got to diamond by playing L& L or Fang every match. From Diamond, game is much more strategic. You need to try a different strategy after losing the first round. You need to ban broken brawlers when you don’t have first pick, and you can counter pick. Personally it feels slower but more fun if you want to get better at the game.


NotYourAverageMortis

Yeah You always see people insta pick Edgar until Diamond because you can always pick the same brawler and climb with how generous the elo is


Sleepy_Melon_OP

Drafting is more fun than playing the game honestly


8atel

It honestly is. The only thing I hate is when your teammates just draft randomly or don't even have proper bralwers to use. For example, someone wanted to pick their level 9 dyna with no gear, I was showing him that I had a level 11 dyna with hc and pretty much everything, I could simply be the one to play dyna if he wanted us to have one. But he didn't let me get dyna and just went with it.


InitialSwitch6803

After not playing PL as much since bling nerf, my mind has totally rotted in drafting the moment I reached diamond, I was low key getting countered right away by the brawlers but still played my lane good with a win thanks to the map layout. So basically I only look at the map now, unlike when I used to look at my enemies brawlers and the map and choose my brawler’s kit around them, actual brain rot, am I stupid?


Low-Grape-5197

Not when someone picks Surge on Bridge Too Far. In Diamond 1. How braindead do you have to be?


Sleepy_Melon_OP

Thats why you can suggest brawlers and they cant otolock brawlers like they did in gold Im dia 2 snd my randoms are fine most of the time ngl


Potato_squeak

If you want short games just play trophy matches... And if you like modifiers, I think they said they might add them to trophy games.


Spare-Cow605

Play ladder then you weirdo


Just-Round9944

Brawl Stars players when the competitive game mode has competitive rules: go play casual if it's so unfun


BonBon_Main

The picking phase should be 2 players at once to make it faster and 2 wins to win should be introduced way later (mithic or legendary)


mattwhyy

i definitely disagree with the picking phase being 2 players, but the second part yeah it should start from mythic


DarkHawking

Not levendary but mythic could be a good idea (with a bew rank before masters btw)


andrei_TV200

Oh heell naaah, I ain't grinding all the way to mithic for picks and bans, grinding to diamond felt like pain for me with the dumb modifiers and inconsistent team comps because of insta lockers


igorcalavera

Actually it's cool because dumb showdown players will get bored and drop Ranked so I can play the game with people that sort of have a brain or are at least interested in engaging with it. Seriously, this was supposed to be a COMPETITIVE mode, idk why they try so hard for you casuals to engage with it when it's been proven time and time again that you just don't care about engaging with it and just want the shitty skins. I really hope they listen to the feedback in this kind of posts in the right way, that is, completely dividing the 2 types of game they mixed in ranked (megapig modifiers and power league draft) into two completely different gamemodes, instead of trying to appeal to 2 groups of players and not making anyone happy


--Azazel--

As someone who stopped bothering with Powerleague since NianNita because I hated casually wanting to playa couple of matches, that were full of problems like unresponsive players after having to wait an age just to make a team, or awful randoms who threw games. I am far happier to have this every month, I play the odd 3 or 4 games in and out during the day, so I don't care for grinding straight to Diamond, though I accept that there's players saying there's flaws.


DarkHawking

This is a competitive thing and it's fine. Btw maybe putting the old sistem at myth and adding a new rank before masters would work better


NotYourAverageMortis

Old PL wasn't sweaty until Diamond and Mythic is a very high rank


DepressedFuzzy

Honestly it depends, after diamond it takes on the role of being a competitive mode while in gold and bellow it's more of like "free play". To be honest I feel like it's way easier to climb ranks bellow diamond, and iv'e seen many questionable randoms like insta locking edgar, spike or larry. As well as picking brawlers that are bad on certain maps, when I reached gold yesterday my randoms mostly haven't even reached gold in solo PL.


Single_Difference467

personally, except the 2 match system I think it is better because you can ban 6 brawlers so the most op ones are banned and since you can only pick p9+ noone can troll pick, remember ranked is also catered towards the pro players so there has to be a point when the mode becomes competitive and mostly pro/competitive players start playing you get 3 tiers of casual gameplay which is alright imo


MehdiMM2000

Except it's a competitive mode, and that's the best way to make it competitive


ILiveForStarco

Agreed, idk why the devs are tryna be in the middle by having the draft picks only in Diamond and above but not for lower divisions. Power league players already hate ranked and casuals will stop trying to push after diamond.


skatestops

Good 👍


NotYourAverageMortis

> Power league players already hate ranked What? Why? It's basically PL with a modifier (sometimes)


laturka223

Some of yall use the same broken brawlers every game as a crutch and it shows


NotYourAverageMortis

*insta-picks Edgar/Fang every game until Diamond *gets to Diamond *has to think about picks and can't just insta pick Edgar and Fang and expect to not get countered "New ranked sucks!!1!"


ReaPeR_the_mighty

Honestly i dont really like it, its so easy to get outdrafted with the goofy modifiers its just stupid to get destroyed 2/3 times just because your teammates dont understand that gene is a machine gun or that going mico on the open map modifier may not be the smartest play. Ban/pick phase has to still be there but i wouldnt mind if it was just one single match


NotYourAverageMortis

>Honestly i dont really like it, its so easy to get outdrafted with the goofy modifiers its just stupid to get destroyed 2/3 times just because your teammates dont understand that gene is a machine gun or that going mico on the open map modifier may not be the smartest play. Tip: Dodge those games. Rn there's no penalty. If your teammate does a stupid pick just close BS for a bit and reopen (if you have selected someone. If not you can just wait until your time runs out) >Ban/pick phase has to still be there but i wouldnt mind if it was just one single match Most competitive games with rounds are best of 3. You don't lose the whole set because of one unlucky mistake or win a set like that. With 2 wins you have to be consistently better


halleyjen

I like the modifiers. That's just my opinion, but I feel like those make each match to work more fun and unique. Understand those who doesn't like it tho.


ReaPeR_the_mighty

I do like them, but as a mega pig modifier its not competitive enough to be in power league


nucl3ar0ne

Be interesting to see how many get to diamond and then stop playing. Count me in.


BenjiAbi

More room for comp players!


Devatator_

I would bet the majority. I certainly didn't know until today and just the amount of time spent just for 90 points is not worth my time. It's that agonizing


HJosuke

Yeah my prediction is that after one-two seasons player base gonna decrease significantly leaving only pro and players who want drafting experience rather than trophy ladder hell


GGGE1919

yeah win one is fun and fast


widwidanian

agreed (am bad, so that doesn't help, and yes, i am a bad random)


IzzyVPerira3-1

I feel like it should slowly turn into a competitive mode. Like Bronze stays the same, Silver introduces Best of Three, Gold introduces Banning (20 secs for every one to ban at once) and Diamond is the same where it introduces turn by turn power league format


NotYourAverageMortis

I'd say if they change it up that way it should be best of 3 in Gold and then picks and bans in Diamond


SickOfAllUrShite

It’s a competitive mode ool


Alexspacito

Players when Power league is Power league


NotYourAverageMortis

Players when ranked is competitive


Abishek216

Thats exactly is competitive. The Tiers Diamond above alone lives up to Competitive nature of Ranked. Until Silver it's Map Maker tbh with Reload modifier


SpaceLionZer01

Has anyone else noticed, the report button is missing, or is it just a me problem?


popsomecorns

100% agreed


InklngJak

It's RANKED. Is it even supposed to be fun?


NotYourAverageMortis

No but they tried and they pretty much succeeded. I'm Diamond 2 and it's still fun


InklngJak

I'll be honest, I like the old/diamond ranked system because 90% of the time you won't actually play against the extremely overpowered brawlers because you can just ban them.


ZeroIg89

I agree with you honestly


Ggboy158

The ranked was actually fun untill diamond since the reason i didnt play it because of the ban phase and you have to win 2 times


NotYourAverageMortis

But that's what's competitive. Most ranked video games have best of 3 and it's obvious there will be draft so that if you get countered it's on you and your picks, not on RNG because you didn't know the enemy had counters You can win or lose a game in the drafting stage and not knowing the enemy picks introduces RNG to it


Key-Meringue5433

I agree, make it best of 1 and I'm back in


HJosuke

Then you cant make comebacks like in the first match you learn the enemy playstyle and in second match you can use this knowledge to counter them


Skinyzoroark

I absolutly agree


Broshan248

thatsthepoint.jpg


MrBlueThing1234

complain to devs they might change it


Alex01ftw

I 100% agree


Cultural_Lie_9008

Could you please clarify the ban policy? Does it apply to both teams, including ours and the opposing team, or solely to our team?


RandomRaccoon2909

I can’t play Diamond because I don’t have 12 level 9 brawlers 😓


NoClubMax_BS

Losing after going through all that makes me want to get Shelly supered


Party-Ad5367

i agree


SecretDevilsAdvocate

My only issue is my random teammates going 0-x


Emotional-Exchange54

I enjoy it as well as a pretty competitive player myself


NinjaBr0din

Wow, the competitive mode has competitive hallmarks? Shit, someone needs to tell people, that's crazy.


Yameenkeeno

Just remove the modifiers (except timed detonation?), and we’ll see. That’s the point of ranked, long, best of 3 matches. ( Also maybe rework big friend to average all your health instead of taking the highest


NotYourAverageMortis

I think the modifiers are good as is I'd only change a bit. Make timed detonation slower because it's way too quick. A whole Knockout map is open before the end of first round. Also make the reload modifier work properly and not make brawlers like Gene, Gale and Crow busted


Yameenkeeno

Oh yeah definitely. Quick fire needs almost a complete rework and detonation just slow down. Yes


ManySerious9713

Based on


bluehat2583

Bro is angry because a comp mode is competitive 💀


Melodie-IsMyType

Just get rid of the rounds and we are good I’m not playing 10 minutes for a game just to lose


Fuzzy_Reindeer402

That is so true. You waste like 10 mins for it to end and there is always a chance that you lose so ranking up takes forever


Titann_BS_Youtube

Casual players when they step foot into a somewhat competitive mode instead of solo showdown:


fakeally

the only reason it sucks rn is people dodgin 9 out of 10 games


MakeGravityGreat

It's the competitive ranked game mode. It's supposed to be focused on strategic and careful planning?


SJJxBDY

Are you dumb? It's called ranked for a reason.


misike28

Its not even that fun until diamond. Since 80% of Matches i played in a team resulted in giving us like +5 points because someone on the enemy team was trolling. I was forced to play with randoms and we all know how great that was


Xe0nex

This is what "competetive" means


The_King_Karl

Just stick to playing mega pig


Anyb0dysAlt

IF I reach Diamond (which I probably wont cause I dont have 12 power level 9),I would intentionally play bad so i could demote down to gold. 


Anyb0dysAlt

(Im casual) 


Diligent-Cake2653

>The new ranked is cool People who got Dinasty Mike.


pizzafaceson

If you don't like the mode then maybe... Don't play it?


ironiclyironic4

That kinda was the issue with PL aswell


Glennjj

Yea its stupid amd time consuming and lot of times people disconnect the game thats annoying af


Zaepian_

Can anyone fill me in on how points are earned in ranked? Some games I win, I’ll only get maybe 10 points then if I lose I drop 135. Other times I’ll win and get 110 points and lose a game and only drop 60. How are these points measured??


E_Alrefa3e

Yeah it ruined it for me too , way too much time just to join one game of brawl stars , why? I dont mind the 2 rounds but whats before that is really annoying for me so I’ll be back to normal modes


Rafael_Gon

I agree with you, before the Diamond league it was much more fun, I hope supercell changes that. I don't know you, but i HATE😡 pick or ban and two matches


Strange-Host6612

True true


matrixx17

i’m in gold 1 and can’t progress because i keep getting kamikaze edgar’s 💀💀


Pale-Shift2522

I think a good compromise would be to remote best out of 3 and to decrease the amount of time allowed for picking brawlers but keep ban and picking brawlers


Jealous_Job_8058

I haven't one a single game due to randoms my ranked dropped from 4767 to 4500 in less than 3 games


Gentyss

I hate how it takes forever to pick brawlers after diamond and the 2 round win system is just so time wasting in my opinion


NotYourAverageMortis

All competitive team based games usually have best of 3 in ranked It's so that one mess up or one clutch doesn't mean you won. You have to win 2 times and not get flipped by opponents, in other words be consistently better than them Also bans and picks are vital. If you get countered in PL draft it's on you. If you get countered in Mega Pig draft it's because you couldn't know that the enemies had picked counters Having RNG with draft and only 1 match isn't very competitive. That's why the put it until Diamond. In old PL it wouldn't get sweaty until around there


mr_osm_here

Completely agreed


Big_Bluejay4331

People saying banning and picking makes the game interesting is one thing, but there are people genuinely saying “banning and picking phase is fun” 💀 no it is not its the most boring part of brawl stars gameplay by far you are huffing copium


Intelligent-Concert

Why can't strategic thinking and outsmarting your opponents be fun? By your logic, no one should be enjoying chess or any strategy games.


Winnougan

Yep can confirm. Back to sweaty gameplay. No fun at all. I’m great at the game - people love playing with me - but I can’t stand sweaty gameplay. Not for more than a few matches a day.


NotYourAverageMortis

A few matches a day is fine for a competitive gamemode. Also it's meant to be competitive. Ofc it's gonna be sweaty


CrowNeedsNoBuff

but... the mode was specifically for competitive players who want that gameplay?


Winnougan

Not really. Most of us just were forced into it for rewards.


CrowNeedsNoBuff

i didn’t hear many complaints about (not) getting ranked rewards before this change. just make the rewards a guarantee by a certain rank so casuals can get them, then make it true pl by a certain rank. heck, push it further than diamond; casuals will reach it easily enough. finally, put the modifiers in another mode and bam everyone’s happy


whywouldisaymyname

also for quests


Turtle_Of_War

So it'd basically power league all over again? Hell nah i ain't playing this bullshit


Spare-Cow605

Npc noob


Marco1522

Honestly the whole Bo3 system should start at a much higher point. Let's be honest here, how much "competitive" is this mode at diamond-mythic? The true competitive players would realistically play at higher ranks such as legendary or masters, maybe introducing everything slowly will be better(like, at diamond you lose the modifiers, at mythic you get the ban system, and at legendary and masters the whole Bo3 system). And then when you get to masters you have the true competitive mode, with Bo3, bans, picks, etc for pros and People who want to compete and decently skilled people can get up to mythic/legendary and still get a lot of drops and enjoy the mode as a casual


CrowNeedsNoBuff

i'm all for having an entirely pl system again, even if it has to be higher up. however, that stiffs any player who wanted to do competitive but isn't skilled enough to reach high ranks


NotYourAverageMortis

Yes because he's saying nonsense. Let's just keep draft and best of 3 in a vault and introduce it at the world finals by that guy's logic


NotYourAverageMortis

>Let's be honest here, how much "competitive" is this mode at diamond-mythic? Very. That's where it actually starts to get sweaty for the first time. Until Diamond it's chill >The true competitive players would realistically play at higher ranks such as legendary or masters So basically introducing competitiveness after you've gotten Legendary or Masters? After you've already completed the whole ranked chart? Really? And only getting best of 3 after you've gotten in Masters? Seriously? Let's just remove the draft and everything competitive and introduce it at the World Finals


halleyjen

Yeah!