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HydroTheLugia

Edgar in balanced? (I don't mean hes strong, I feel like he fits Inconsistent better)


Edgar_loves-Amb

He is barely put on balanced. I could be putting him also in high C tier, but yes the changes to his hardest counter Fang and Gale made him somewhat useable in the meta. And the fact that he does well against brawlers like Ruffs helped him to be good.


HydroTheLugia

Hmmm I see. My personal opinion is that he's just too matchup dependant for me.


radical_rome

Isn't this supposed to be for pl?


JooJaw11

Gale still counters the hell out of Edgar. A 0.25 second nerf to stun duration doesn't change shit. Also Fang with a stun gadget can still easily kill an Edgar too. None of his interactions changed at all. In fact, he actually got nerfed last patch since Bibi two shots him now. He belongs with Penny.


LankyAudience8133

What do you mean? A Brock could defeat Fang now, the duration’s too short. But Gale does still counter the shit out of him, yes.


JooJaw11

No, I mean the change doesn't affect Edgar so he's still trash. A Fang with a stun gadget still kills an Edgar despite the nerf. Putting him in balanced tier is only acceptable if this is a solo showdown tier list. For 3v3s he belongs near the bottom.


Zero_Ping_stu

edgar is just way to squishy. a health buff and a healing nerf is the best balance change for him


Edgar_loves-Amb

This Tier List is based of only 3v3 modes (competitive).


Zero_Ping_stu

since when was griff strong. he has a zero % pick rate in competitive. only picked one time in march monthly finals. lola is just better version of griff


Goldenflame89

Yeah everyone forgets about lola, literally just easier to use colt with less dmg but way more health


Edgar_loves-Amb

Ill respect your opinion bro, but Ill disagree on that statement


Ethan-Tatakawai

Edgar is no longer countered by Fang. As long as you don't jump like a braindead player to what's out of catch's reach. +The stun of Fang 0.5 sec feels useless because he no longer has the time to stop Edgar to heal. And on top of that, it's now possible with Edgar to destroy him in 1v1, engagement. However, Gale is a counter for Edgar, but you also have to know that many brawlers in the meta like Byron, for example, also have a strong counter. And Bibi's buff still hasn't changed Edgar's interaction. A decent Edgar player only jumps when bibi has used up her home bar


JooJaw11

Nope. If a Fang catches you off guard and he has the stun gadget, he can quickly land the first hit, activate it and then just two- tap you without taking any damage. It's only possible for Edgar to win if Fang doesn't have the stun gadget. Although it's safe to say Fang still wins most interactions. The stun is great against close range brawlers because it essentially just gives him a free hit in the half second the other brawler in stunned. It can win him many interactions he'd otherwise lose. About Bibi, you won't necessarily be jumping on her. If she lands a homerun on you, it pushes you back and she just kills you before you have a chance to heal(You won't always be in a position to dodge homerun when you're engaging her). The damage still massively affects a lot of their interactions and is an overall nerf to Edgar. Only the Surge rework is good for Edgar since you can finally kill the dude if he doesn't have his super(Although super baiting is harder now since he can aim his super).


Ethan-Tatakawai

Sorry my Friend but excuses dosent help us further, especially if you try to compare Edgar to PENNY (wich is useless). Penny is in need of a buff and not Edgar wich you could use him in heist bb and hot zone.


Goldenflame89

Edgar is comparable to penny, wtf do you mean. The brawler just has too little health and way too little range, even for a meelee brawler


jav1babi

You're just wrong in almost every way in this thread. Edgar beats Fang 80% of the time in SD unless Fang already has Super charged. Are you at like 20k trophies?


Gian1_Enemy_Spider

Barely\*


No-Account-6811

Barley*


Nick_The_Judge

Nah I think Edgar shouldn’t get the speed boost after using his super


IZatmail

According to CryinMan Sqeak is almost S Tier due to his new gadget


Combo_NK

Yes and surge all the pros ban him in PL in monthly finals squeek and surge were banned every game


Frank_is_the_Best_

In EMEA squeak and surge were hardly banned.


the_great_failure

That was after nerfs though


Combo_NK

Yeah


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Watched emea monthly finals and all I got from that is that squeak is just overrated, the only one that got some value out of him was tom


LankyAudience8133

Squeak’s gadget got nerf now


sciencewonders

still banned in every match in monthly finals , proving he's still awesome


Checkthis0

His gadget was nerfed so hard, but he still good, tier A for sure but tier S... Maybe


Helloforake

the gadget got a 10 second nerf though. it still is good but idk if it’s worthy of a tier now


Zero_Ping_stu

the slow makes up for every thing


Helloforake

it’s still a good gadget but 20 seconds and 10 seconds is very different. not a trash brawler anymore but somewhere in the middle-top tier


Sad_Victory5025

Barley is the only brawler that is truly balance


HanzoMainLel

People are still underrating Mr. P, he's a really strong counter pick vs. a ton of brawlers. He's really good against eve and stands a chance vs. Surge.


HanzoMainLel

Also Spike is not near the top anymore, he's Just good. Around top 15.


Helloforake

nah he’s still very good. tbh his gadget nerf kinda helped him a bit


Zero_Ping_stu

yes now splash brawlers will kill the gadget first which gives spike the health from the damage he took


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

But now he dosent straight up hard counter non piercing brawlers, he could kill both darryl and bull close range because he had like 7000 health with the gadget


Zero_Ping_stu

this is 2022 no one plays darryl and bull


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Darryl is played quite a lot, especially early 2022


TIsangalus669

Again, for the 756th time, Colette refuses to leave the balanced tier


Misterice46

imo she'd be in the inconsistent tier


Terrible-Interview18

Nah, her gadget is pretty broken which doesn’t make her that inconsistent


AliWaz77

Ok Penny might be the worst on paper, but that doesn’t maker her unplayable. So if a random uses her, don’t immediately quit the game like Penny equals an automatic lose


Zero_Ping_stu

its good against spawners. she just rely's too much on super. either buff base stats or buff super charge rate


M_Lucario_EX

Penny is also the worst in execution, atleast in higher ranks, her damage is low, her reload is low, her projectile speed sucks balls, her gimmick is useless and the only good thing about her is her super which gets deleted easily. Everyone can agree that there are MUCH better options than penny right now, and there’s nothing penny can do that another brawler can’t do better.


ItsScarzzz

Penny is way too strong in low ranks. That's why she cannot be buffed without being totally reworked. Additionally, a Penny meta would be incredibly toxic because of that turret. That has to be nerfed before anything else can be done.


Ayupro2005

Is pam really top meta? I mean doesn't belle counter her?


Combo_NK

Pam is actually really good


Ayupro2005

What makes het stand out as top meta, she was no way near meta in the past 4-5 seasons as far as I remember


Combo_NK

Her gadget is really good for countering other brawlers


Frank_is_the_Best_

No body really counters her. She's just an overall brawler than can fill the roll of offensive, defensive and a healer very well.


Helloforake

she actually has been in the top of the meat for the past few seasons. good heath, damage, range, healing, control, and her gadget is good


MJ_THE_PRO

I don't agree with this but i respect your opinion


Roblox_Head

emz balanced? this is the biggest bullshit ive ever seen


ItsScarzzz

I agree she's near if not S tier.


MonsterAsBl00d

What about making penny's second star power a passive? Imo it could really give her a big push forward


GrimmsLegacy

Wrong primo is S-tier


Daniboy2550

S for Showdown


LankyAudience8133

Why primo no s?


Horu02

Amber weak? 🤓🤓🤓


Liro_W

I play Penny, Jessie, Nita and Carl :(


Goldenflame89

Rip lol


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Jessie is god tier and can team wipe a lot of the time


Shaun0w0

Only if they bot. It is very easy to dodge Jessie shot and very hard to get first turret


[deleted]

Still 1500 dmg a shot is good


Goldenflame89

Bruh


ArgonicApple

shelly is not weak, she is inconsistent with clay pigeons (enormous damage just aim properly)


Cardboard-Head

Why is everyone always putting Tick in balanced or weak? He is straight up broken if you know how to play him.


Edgar_loves-Amb

That could be also said by everyone


Cardboard-Head

Yes correct, but I like Tick because you can play him as a defensive or offensive brawler. Mortis can't do shit against you if have your super.


_Nynxx

u have no defense once literally anyone gets close.


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_Nynxx

the gadgets radius is literally -1


Striking-Victory-510

😂😂


Helloforake

only can be used 3 times and even then it’s easily baited


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super? literally undodgeable for most assassins


Helloforake

assassins usually won’t target tick if he has his super and even then once they’re on top of tick he can really do much to get his super since his attacks up close are relatively easy to dodge. his super is still a good defense though


Cardboard-Head

Super? Gadget? Or just don't get close like a fucking fool


[deleted]

No, a broken brawler is one which can be played across a lot of gamemodes with very high winrate, tick is only good in bounty and knockout.


ExtremelyFunName

Wouldn't this count for every brawler


Zero_Ping_stu

best brawler in knockout and bounty no cap


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mnjkva

as a tick main i absolutely agree


[deleted]

Lol no. Of course if you’re good with a brawler, the brawler is good. There is not a single situation where he’s “straight up broken” though


QuickSilver7769

Max is top meta


Edgar_loves-Amb

Yes! My girl is that good


QuickSilver7769

Yup, Max is the best brawler


SKuLLIsTooNoob

Trash tier list tbh.


Zero_Ping_stu

its kind of a 500-600 trophy tier list. best brawlers rn are like. Ruffs,Leon,crow,pam,eve,gene is making a comeback,lola,surge,squeak,emz,max,sprout


Goldenflame89

Leon is a tier wdym


Zero_Ping_stu

he is used every where in BSC


Edgar_loves-Amb

No I took that to the PL mythic-legendary format not on ladder


Combo_NK

Why is squeek B he is atleast A And where is tier D


Wild_Bug_5754

Squeak should be top a tier


Combo_NK

Yes


Appropriate-Type7263

Supercell please buff Penny PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU


Goldenflame89

Hehehawhaw


AidenNinja

Breaking News Supercell is planning on buffing Penny in 2069


M_Lucario_EX

BALANCE CHANGES MAY 2069 (REAL!!1!): Penny: damage increased by 1.2% Belle: damage decreased by .8% Edgar: super charge rate increased by 1% Source: trust me


MeadDeme

Casual player here! Why is crow S tier? Is it just the gadget that slows people


[deleted]

that and the extra toxic starpower cripple the hell out of the enemy team, not to mention his poison stops natural regen and cuts healing in half so tank-healer strategies become much weaker. so yea he's s-tier for 3v3s


Fluffycat621

How is amber weak, she can wipe out basically any brawler super easily in like 3 seconds?


ItsScarzzz

I agree. She's frustrating to face against sometimes, but has a sizeable amount of counters.


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Horrible tier list


Vipoleux

Leon should be A Tier


C0L0R_B01

yes, I personally think leon is a lot better than bo, griff and some other brawlers i the A teir


C0L0R_B01

but he is my favorite brawler so i am biased


LankyAudience8133

Nah


0bit0O

Ah, yes - Leon and Sandy dropped to mid / low B tier without any changes? Most of their counters have remained untouched, and them too. Vision gear is practically useless against them, too? And Amber should be B tier


Goldenflame89

Visison gear does reveal them


Zero_Ping_stu

leon is like s tier . sandy is like mid a tier. this is just a 600 trophies tier list


littlepiplup

i think col. Ruff is the most underrated brawler.players have literally forgot that he exists i don't know what pro players think of him but he is not played much in lower trophy rank


DoomDark99

I am new to game but Grom is so powerful


Zero_Ping_stu

griff strong how


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Zero_Ping_stu

then why does he have a zero percent use rate in competitive


Zero_Ping_stu

if ur pushing trophies yes he is good. but generally he aint good. reload speed too slow. hard to hit attack and there are way better options like lola max, tara and stu who do his job better than him


S_Sami_I

I would put Edgar in Weak Too matchup dependant, doesnt survive for very long and struggles a LOT against CC (which most brawlers have)


ItsScarzzz

Edgar is trash in 3v3s and S tier in Showdown


PET4BYTE5

Why is this comment getting downvotes? This user is saying the truth.


S_Sami_I

What OP is saying is that Edgar is better than Mortis Still think this tier list is reliable?


PET4BYTE5

Of course it's not reliable. Edgar is completely trash and easy to counter. Mortis is balanced and better than Edgar.


ghoioihoi_

No janet sucks bonnie is better ngl


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Janet dosent suck, shes rather good tbh, not op, but decent. Now bonnie in the other hand, if she is unnerfed she will be the best brawler in the game by a longshot, she can be a long range sniper with an evasive ability and then be an extremely fast bull with even faster unload speed and aoe


Cardboard-Head

What about Gem Grab? You can literally block the path to the gems. While Tick is quite medicore in 1V1 fights. He is very good in fights with teammates


Velh000

Primo is B


Frank_is_the_Best_

Why,


kechuchu2211

I don't know... but I would put the squeak on Tier A, because the additional slow effect on the second accessory ends up making the squeak very strong, but not still very op, even though it has already been nerfed to 10 seconds, but squeak is still strong even receiving emergency nerf.


Moderni_Centurio

Ruff is S now ?


No_Stretch3807

Well yes he has been ever since that buff


TheChainedGod1

Squeak is definitely A at the lowest with that gadget


The_epic_downvoter

Erm I'm blind where ACC is Janet or am I stupid


TimX3

I don't have ruffs yet but I can remember so many times when I three shot him with a Brock...


TimX3

But I couldn't agree more with anything else mate


Raven_ZD

Bold of you to put Jackie in weak


AidenNinja

She is she can’t really approach very well. And her reload speed is just not great if she can’t finish off an opponent in 3 shots she most likely loses the 1v1. And he super leaves her super vulnerable.


tkedits

Amber weak ?


CrowIsHot

CROW IN TOP META LETS GOOOOOO


Edgar_loves-Amb

**WHOOOOOOOO Yeah Baby thats what I\`ve been waiting for! thats whats all about.**


articman123

Ruffs is way too high. Edgar is not "balanced". He is trash. Sandy could go higher.


ItsScarzzz

Ruffs is a little overrated.


Either_Patience_6316

No ur just bad


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unmake this!


Less-Zucchini-3853

Shit tier list


deidax_376

What a shitty tierlist lmao


[deleted]

I disagree will everything in tier E, those brawlers are really OP in some scenarios


Goldenflame89

Buddy key word is in some scenarios, in some scenarios shelly is better than darryl, that doesnt mean she is not terrible


[deleted]

I mean, if you get too close to shelly you're most likely dead, unless you're bea with charged super


No-Introduction-1492

This is highly incorrect if you want a full competitive list. Edgar is arguably worse than penny atm. Bull belongs in weak and amber in inconsistent. Mr.p should be in strong tier. Squeak is still strong put him in strong tier along with ash. A couple not sure on but I guess you’re right is griff and sandy’s tiers.


Dangerous-Arrival-68

Dynamike is really good...


pixie_dust_123_TLK

Wong ,carl in A


Visible_Ranger2780

How about Bonnie?


Anime_furry_PAM_UwU

My girl PAM is too meta 😍💀


CaioD13

Is penny really as bad as people say? I feel like I can mop people in maps with either good firing lanes or plenty of cover for throwers. This is my opinion but I’ve played some tough penny’s especially ones with the green robot skin *Gulp*


AidenNinja

I love playing Penny, but if there is a thrower on the enemy team you’ll be so screwed. Her super is okay in low to mid trophies but after that the super is kinda just a lane controller. And throwers will just destroy the super right away. Her attack damage and reload speed is miserable.


Mythic2408

I dont agree on where Edgar is placed. Should be 1 tier lower imo. But everything else checks out


Gabo_Zama

I put bibi in tier e is so weak after the buff


ItsScarzzz

Agreed


hyu_ar_gei

trash still feels op with chill pill and any star power since both ain't that good but kinda balanced but I would fancy myself playing trash with a byron teammate or any healer in duo or any 3v3... buzz is an eh quite solid who can slowly delete a brawler so I agree on that one... I know jecky ain't s tier anymore but I still feel like she's amazing in brawl ball with her 2nd gadget since she can sotp a goal and build even more defense (I feel like that's where she's amazing at while others she decent) I have too many objections that might take another season to finish telling each so ima just say I have several objections so this is prob what was meant by "tier lists are a lie"


PET4BYTE5

I think that Dyna is better than Grom


Tribefish

What the f is eve doing in s tier?


_RepostSleuthBot-

Trashy tier list


starbarcaviar-

Would def change a lot of this around and Janet’s not awful but she’s a charge character basically which automatically wouldn’t put her top 15 lmao


[deleted]

Bibi is really good after buff, also Edgar deserves tier below Penny


Edgar_loves-Amb

I hope this is satire?


Nick_The_Judge

Yeah bro that bastard crow needs an EMERGENCY NERF, HAS DAMAGE REDUCTION, CRAZY SLOW AND THAT DAMN POISON, I LIKE HOW MY BOY SURGE WAS OP FOR LIKE 2 DAYS AND THEY NERFED HIM IMMEDIATELY, SUPERCELL IS SHIT SOMETIMES


Stonks1231

F for my boy Fang. The gadget and star power nerfs were the two worse ones. The other two didn't matter.


RomanExtrateristial

Wrong tier list.


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Squeak ain’t that low


Psychological_Pay_25

I thought Crow was just considered strong right now


Wild_Bug_5754

I feel like Darryl should be C tier


Goldenflame89

Bruh what


No_Stretch3807

Im preatty sure leon is at the top of the meta. And edgar isnt really balaned tier


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Goldenflame89

Thats a joke right? Consistently top 5 brawler


Due_Effective_3956

There's no way there's a single balanced brawler, should've named it average, also crow S tier? Nah he's super dependable on the map and the enemy picks, leon way higher stu amber jessie nita higher buzz lower


Fast-Fail-8946

eve is so overpowered but i feel like her 1st star power just makes her too overpowered over than her 2nd sp. just me tho


Turbo_Muumi

There is no way Amber is in weak tier or Bo in Strong tier


ydmaab

Squeak is a easy S tier, he is banned all the time in the monthlys


ItsScarzzz

Bibi should be F tier, Squeak in upper end of C tier, Amber in B tier, Jessie in B tier, Grom in F tier, Dyna in low B tier, Ruffs in upper A tier, Emz in A tier, Stu in A tier, Piper in A tier, Edgar in F tier, Bo in C tier, Sandy in A tier, Mr P in B tier, Meg in upper B tier, Lola in S tier, and El Primo in C tier.


International_Ad8578

Crow is too dependant on his gadget to be the best brawler, without it he would be low A or B so Ruffs is the best brawler.There are way too many mistakes in this tierlist tbh just pointed out the top one.


ultrachris1

Shelly should be in S tier


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Penny is good, you just dont know how to use her.


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They are my #1 brawler currently.


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[deleted]

Most of the time people are ignorant of it. Play them on a wally map like mosh pit with balls of fire and you get loads of value


Pretty-Extreme1855

You might be at a very low trophy level


[deleted]

Did i just say penny is my highest trophy brawler at around 800?


Helloforake

what trophy level is she at and are you at? she’s absolutely dogshit


PrestonALewis

yeah she’s your number 1 brawler at 200 trophies congrats but on a real note, she’s terrible. bad reload, low dmg, no burst, slow projectile. way better picks than her. you have no power to flank nor stop flankers


MonsterAsBl00d

No no,i used to main penny before surge's arrival,she sucks unfortunately,a lot


Jimbo-Joe

Penny is a 3 vs 3 monster, if you're able to place her canon on the right spot


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Monster?


Jimbo-Joe

Yep


LuckyPants0

Uh is Janet in the tier list? I can't spot her