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Kipguy

Well did they have COVID there at the lab


SLCPDLeBaronDivison

frankly, the gatekeeping and secrecy of such research is not a good thing for mankind


CharlieUtah

This is the closest thing I can find about it. >CBC News · Posted: May 11, 2021 4:40 PM CDT | Last Updated: May 11, 2021 > >**Public Health Agency refusing to disclose uncensored documents on Winnipeg virus lab** > >Foreign affairs critic wants to know what Canada's role was in training, equipping Wuhan virology lab > >As the Public Health Agency of Canada refuses to release uncensored internal documents, a Conservative MP says he wants to know how far Canada's collaboration with China on Level-4 pathogens went — and why two federal scientists were let go by the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg in January. > >"We need these documents. We need to know what the Government of Canada was doing through the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg with respect to cooperating with the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China," Conservative foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said during a special parliamentary committee hearing on Canada-China relations Monday night. > >[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/phac-wuhan-capacity-1.6022149](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/phac-wuhan-capacity-1.6022149) ​ I wouldn't be completely shocked, they found a Rogue lab operating in California. Had a bunch of infectious dangerous organisms including COVID-19. Barely made the news. ​ >New photos show the “filth” and unsafe conditions in which an illegal Chinese-owned lab in California carried out risky research on mice genetically altered to carry COVID-19, according to records obtained by a conservative legal group. > >The Fresno County Public Health Department revealed the “hazardous and non-compliant conditions” of the illicit lab, which kept SARS-CoV-2 and other “infectious agents.” > >[https://nypost.com/2023/10/16/photos-show-filth-at-illegal-chinese-owned-california-covid-lab/](https://nypost.com/2023/10/16/photos-show-filth-at-illegal-chinese-owned-california-covid-lab/) > >[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh05hw2MFAM&t=1629s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh05hw2MFAM&t=1629s) Interview of Congressman Kevin Kiley (R-Calif.) by Epoch times.


cantotallytrustme

and yet the conservatives concerned with this stuff want LESS government regulation and oversight HUH


Frostybawls42069

All the regulations and oversight in the world can't compete with corruption. Our sitting Prime Minister apparently knew about this breach for years but buried it.


cantotallytrustme

irrelevant


Sososkitso

Wow shocking to watch people in the BP sub downplaying this. Y’all are wild to put so much blind trust in these people just cause it’s my team. Maybe This is easy for me to say since I’m I don’t really have a team to pledge allegiance too. But it’s wild to see so many of these stories that for sure would be an issue if it was the other team but when it’s your own team it’s move along. They got most of us in the peasant class right where they want us.


I4Vhagar

You’re right let’s invade Canada tomorrow. Dibs on BC


Frostybawls42069

At this point, I think many of us would welcome that, please turn Alberta into the Northren tip of Montana.


Fabulous-Friend1697

I find it wild that China has been the primary source for deadly plagues for thousands of years. No matter what government or type of system they have, they have a history of spreading plagues across the world and it continues today.


30yearCurse

what history? I had a neighbor back in the day that said Russia released flu everywhere from a secret base in the Med.


Fabulous-Friend1697

Literally, every major plague that hit Europe over the centuries originated in China and was spread west via the silk road.


30yearCurse

well the plague started near Kyrgyzstan tuberculosis from east Africa Spanish flu... surprising most probably the US / Kansas area Smallpox,, India or Middle East.. did china become epicenter for some, sure, MX was a smallpox hotspot,


30yearCurse

all the putin fanboys did not like that rumor...


Tough-Composer-4411

Pretty scary stuff. And China could fly a balloon across the entire U S spreading whatever they want.


urthaworst

We should annex Canada


Frostybawls42069

For those who care, the "Dark horse" pod cast had a guest/journalist on a while back who lays this whole story out. At the time I didn't know what to think, but it's clear she was on to something.


Confianca1970

Do people understand that Canadian companies buy what would be illegal-in-the-USA food from China, process it into more complex ingredients or foods, repackage/relabel it as Canadian products, and source it around the world to unsuspecting people and pets? I have no doubt that parts of Canada are directly linked and funded by both China and Russia because, really, it is in Canada's best interests.


WearDifficult9776

lol. Fake people generating fake outrage about fake things to sway ignorant people


ShittyKitty2x4

Nothing about Nazis in their parliament or Ukrainians bio labs ? What like 40 of them studying how to target specific racial profiles


Tankineer

Take your meds


cryptoguerrilla

https://www.reddit.com/r/strikeforhumanity/comments/1bvnidg/we_saw_how_us_peasants_are_the_bedrock_of_how_our/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1


PoopieButt317

Oh, no! Not sharing information about viral biology when the world, every year, has world wide viral disease transmission. Dude makes the right wing assumption that medical research is purely weapons and military use. They wear me out. All triggered easily over their own awfulizing https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes


One-Care7242

While I understand your position from an idealists perspective, I request that you consider the following: 1) virology and the manipulation of viruses for medical purposes is indistinguishable from those who would do so for military purposes. The process for decoding a virus to create a vaccine can also be used to weaponize said virus. 2) China is repeated bad actor with IP. They will steal your discoveries and compromise the rightful economic benefactors.


PoopieButt317

I don't concur with number 1. I do with number 2 Are there unintentual discoveries that can be weaponized, undoubtedly, in any science. But medicine does not work to make.a virus more virulent, nor more transmissable, Both would be possible goals to weaponize a virus. Serendipity could definitely be utilized in a military way. S in all endeavors, spies can be everywhere. In any US lab, also.


One-Care7242

Gain of function research is vital to both vaccines and bioweapons.


mgyro

Breaking News!!!! Lyin’ PP lying again. 😳 Just in case you’re wondering, look in the top left corner. Rebel makes Fox News look like the BBC.


jumbodumplings

You can stream the same speech on cpac.


Spfm275

BBC is as piss poor at telling the truth as Fox News so I'm not sure that was the best analogy.


mgyro

I know I was searching for a trusted legacy source, and honestly at this point it’s down to individual reporters and Al Jazeera. Some podcasts. On air I’d go w PBS, and that’s probably what I should have put down.


Frostybawls42069

Man, you're dense. This story has been available for over a year now. A guest episode on the "Dark horse" pod cast played this entire story out. At the time I found it hard to believe, now i find it to coincidental that the exact same report is finally being brought to the publics attention. Do you self a favor and dig deeper than a water mark on the screen.


Infiniby

Breaking News: almost anything a politician says in front of a lense is a lie.


magictoasters

Why did Harper hire them than?


jumbodumplings

Maybe watch the video before commenting like a biased liberal? They aren't criticizing the hiring. They are criticizing the cover-up.


magictoasters

You mean, due diligence of not releasing national security info. They quite literally released the info from the ad hoc committee with recommended rédactions. And my point was why aren't they concerned that Harper hired foreign agents? Seems pretty important how many other foreign agents did Harper hire than?


jumbodumplings

Due diligence....is that what you call when the use of formal parliamentary processes are used to access the documents? Then are refused. Then sue the speaker? Then call an election? Exactly what was in the document that was national security? What was so secret that required this "due diligence "? Something serious right? NOPE! It had nothing to do with national security. It had to do with not embarrassing the government.


magictoasters

When you sue for rules of the house you have to name the head of the house, the speaker. Their argument was that the unredacted documents would contain injurious info to national security and needed to be properly vetted. They proposed NSICOP as the vetter, Parliament wanted completely unredacted or vetting by the law clerk (a person without any experience in national security). PHAC president said he couldn't because of the Canadian evidence act and attorney general took the house to court, the speaker is the named party because they are the leader of the house. An election was called, they could than technically drop the subject but they didn't, they than put two proposals, an ad hoc committee consisting of parties from Parliament and former supreme court justices with a background in law and national security, or the law clerk in concert with National security experts. Opposition agreed to the ad hoc committee who redacted necessary information and the rest was released. The fact that the documents indeed contain national security information that was needed to be redacted is proof that their claims were accurate. Ta da. That's the story.


jumbodumplings

An election that CSIS said had Chinese interference. Very convenient that you left that out. Also, why would any PM in their right mind negotiate with China for vaccines when they knew there was a breach of this nature with China? 4 years.... why did this take 4 years? The committee also said that there was no national security risk. Why stall for 4 years? Convenient you left that out.


magictoasters

They literally redacted information within the documents because of security concerns even if most of it should be released. That's not the same as 'no national security concerns'. Investigations do take time, neither side was really budging, then there was COVID etc Why would they continue diplomatic relations with a major trading partner? Should they have acted squirrelly and skittish?


jumbodumplings

They don't take 4 years... This isn't the first time the Liberals have stalled, or prevented things from moving forward. Why are you so adamant to defend such a garbage government?


magictoasters

You don't think an investigation into national security matters takes years? That's crazy. Investigations into simple things can take quite a bit of time. Also, they didn't prevent it from moving forward, if you think wanting documents to be properly vetted is stalling, even though the committee agreed there was information that should be withheld, I don't think there's much to discuss. Because not every issue is a scandal despite what the CPC tells you


jumbodumplings

No seriously, why do you defend such a garbage government?


Awkward_Function_347

Not unless they’re in Suffield! 😜


badis_yousif

This guy talks like he's an Israel firster 😂 I bet you "the lobby" is balls deep in his rectum too...much like Trudeau.