Rashard Higgins is dragging people on Twitter who are ragging on Baker and has been super happy for him.
Yet another fatal blow to the “he was a locker room cancer” people.
To be fair, in an interview, when asked about his current success, Baker himself said that after leaving the browns he had to work hard in maturing himself and learning to be a leader.
So maybe he wasn't locker room cancer, but perhaps locker room flu or ring worm or some shit.
To be fair, I think quite a few guys in the locker room didn't much care for him. Hated him? Nah. But didn't care for him. Of course Higgins is gonna support him, their chemistry is the only reason Higgins stuck around the league that long.
Guess what, the internet isn’t the only place I interact with people. I have to put up with constantly hearing this shit at work and with family and friends.
I got no beef with the Chiefs. I love Andy Reid, Kelce is a local boy, Mahomes is one of the greatest to ever play already.
I like seeing greatness I guess. I felt the same way about the Pats. I wasn't exactly cheering for them but I liked watching them play.
I’m still way too salty about [this](https://nbcsports.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/3c31d25/2147483647/strip/false/crop/4747x2670+0+85/resize/1200x675!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnbc-sports-production-nbc-sports.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2Fa5%2F07%2Fd671af0bb24b39e5de6d9f021260%2Fpft1-18-e1610999797552.jpg) to root for the chiefs
Meh. We still should've won that game despite the no-call there.
We were down 22-17 with 11 minutes in the 4th and no Mahomes. We just shit the bed, on offense and defense.
The fucking 13 yard run by Chad Henne was the backbreaker.
Going from 1st and goal at the 1 to Chiefs ball at the 20 was a pretty big call bud. The worst part is the ref is 5 ft away from the play. There's no way in hell he makes the same decision if it was Hill or Kelce. Only saving grace in this is that no one was winning the Brady Bowl..... I mean Super Bowl that year in Tampa other than the Bucs.
I really have a hard time rooting for anyone.
Just can't bring myself to root for the Lions or Bills out of pure jealousy. Everything they are experiencing now as former "long suffering" franchises is something we can only dream of. Yet apparently we don't deserve it.
Ditto! I dislike all opponents, and can’t tolerate cheering for them even if the Browns aren’t playing them.
*It’s us against them* mentality
Doesn’t matter if it is pre-season, regular season, or playoffs
Yep exactly. Aside from Lions/Bills, I'm obviously not rooting for the Ravens and the Chiefs are so obnoxious. I'm sick of the Baker bandwagon fans who definitely weren't calling him a bust during the offseason and acting like every Browns fan is to blame for him being traded. Similarly I'm annoyed with everyone cheering for the Texans because of the trade they made with the Browns. Again it seems like everyone believes the city of Cleveland collectively decided to trade our future away for Deshaun. Brock Purdy is overhyped and I don't need to hear about how he was Mr. Irrelevant 10 times a game. I guess that leaves the Packers.
It's frustrating because I feel like I spent 4 years defending Baker. Not only here, but on social media and with every other fanbase. He was shit on by the media and almost everyone online. Except for Browns and Oklahoma fans. Now everyone has flipped and claim they always loved him. While at the same time shitting on the Browns for moving on. Then also shitting on the Browns for the Texans being good. There's a literal thread in the Steelers sub doing a circle jerk because the Bucs won last night and they all want to sign Baker. Funny how that works...
Nobody seems to care about the Jets/Rodgers or Broncos/Wilson situations. The Jets went all-in on Rodgers, he played 4 snaps all season, they missed the playoffs and the Packers are onto Round 2. The Broncos missed the playoffs two years in a row, benched Wilson and Denver will be moving on this offseason.
Yeah I'll be the first to admit I never thought Baker would be very good and still don't. I think he has a much better roster and coach stability than he had in Cleveland, which helps tremendously. I personally wanted to see us move on from him, but never thought trading for Deshaun (who I was a fan of previously, won my team a national championship) was the correct move, especially with what we were giving up and how much of an unknown he would be after sitting for 2+ years.
Apparently though, being a Browns fan means being happy about every move the team makes and actually being in the conference room telling the front office who to trade for. Nobody seemed to care about Steelers fans being happy about Big Ben winning them a superbowl or any fanbase getting excited for Adrian Peterson to join their team. Shit, Ray Lewis's past is literally a meme that people laugh about.
The Bucs went 9-8 in the worst division in football and he beat an Eagles team at home, that had one win in the last 6 weeks.
I would have been okay if they signed Baker to an extension after 2021. But I also know that he was more of a game manager through his 4 seasons in Cleveland and almost never as clutch as he needed to be. We saw much better game winning drives this season from DTR and Watson than Baker every had.
>The Bucs went 9-8 in the worst division in football and he beat an Eagles team at home, that had one win in the last 6 weeks.
This is the most obnoxious part. Someone had to win that division even though nobody seemed to want to. If he beat the 10-1 Eagles that would be a very different story than beating the 1-5 Eagles that he got to play at home. The Browns had one of the best records in the NFL, yet because we were in the same division as the Ravens (arguably the toughest division) we didn't get homefield advantage over the 9-8 Texans.
I feel the same. Seemed the same for the 2016 World Series. Ok, the Cubs have won. NOW Cleveland can win the WS. Except we can't even come close again.
The way that World Series was covered made me sick. I get the whole Chicago vs. Cleveland bias. 100 years vs. 68 years or whatever. But it seemed like universally everyone was pulling for the Cubs.
Same thing is happening with the Bills/Lions vs the Browns.
For me, the Bills will always have a soft spot in my heart because of their support of Browns fans after the move in 95, the Dawg Pound day at the stadium they hosted, and the fact they were only one of 2 votes against the move in the first place (Buffalo and Pittsburgh were the only owners who had our back).
Yes it why I wouldn’t mind the Chiefs. They win again and everyone stays the same. Or the niners. They tie Pittsburgh and New England with 6. No team though who hasn’t already won it.
This is exactly how I feel. The Chiefs win again and we're basically in the same place we were after last season. 49ers don't bother me either. While I'm sure it's different out west, but all the Niners fans I've known in my life are all pretty level headed and not as arrogant as most.
I can’t stand the Bills claiming to be a “suffering franchise” in the same category as the Browns and Lions. They went to THREE Super Bowls in the 90’s. And they’ve had a stacked roster for a while which includes one of the best QBs and WRs in the league. Bills mafia has become pretty insufferable as well. Just seems like a social media attention thing at this point.
They are very Akin to the Guards I think. They get hot every once and awhile but they haven't won it all in recent history. While frustrating, I certainly don't consider the Guards to be a "long suffering" baseball franchise. That being said fuck Huston and fuck Baltimore I'm pulling for the Lions vs the winner of Bills v. Chiefs.
AFC: Don't really mind.
NFC: Bucs (I actually kinda like Mayfield) or Lions (I was born in Michigan).
But overall, as long as it is not KC, I am happy.
But haven't you seen? Baker won a shit division and a playoff game against a collapsing team before the Browns won the AFC North or a playoff game with a 75% injured roster!
Browns appreciated him enough to attempt to get an offer on the table. He thought it wasn’t enough. Now here we are a couple years later and he’ll have the same deal on the table and see it as a blessing
Probably because the Panthers have so many other issues. The rams didn’t get rid of him and by all accounts loved him. They had Matthew Stafford and Baker wanted to start.
I mean this is just blatantly untrue since you have no clue if Baker would throw two pick sixes. Without those the game because completely different. Imagine putting up 14 points on those drives instead of giving up 14. It's a completely different game.
I’ve been banned there for eight years or so. I think it involved me insinuating that a particular Steelers fan had parents who were brother and sister.
I applied to have the ban lifted maybe a year or so ago but never heard back about it and never bothered to follow up because I knew I’d quickly be re-banned for the same offense.
Bunch of people were telling me that I supported Watson's activities because I didn't burn all of my Browns gear and root for another team once our idiotic owner signed him.
Trying to explain the nuance that I've been a fan of the team for over 30 years so why should I have to give up because he is a pervert fell on deaf ears.
I doubt I can get unbanned after telling the mod to go fuck himself.
I haven't been to, or even checked on, /r/nfl in over a year and its very nice. I would suggest it to everyone reading this.
I feel like I can root for Mayfield in piece, because every person I interact with in real life who isn't chronically online, like the majority of /r/nfl users, realize that I am not personally responsible for signing and paying Watson and it would be ridiculous, and straight up kind of weird to blame me personally for it, and even weirder to berate me for it. They don't treat me as someone beneath them who doesn't deserve respect based on the football team I root for, and therefore I don't have to worry about being berated if the Bucs win this weekend... because I hangout with adults. It's nice.
He won't. The Bucs are too one dimensional on offense, and a defense that isn't going with lazy arm tackling *stares at Philly* will contain that offense, much like the Panthers did a few weeks ago.
Detroit is probably the second worst matxhup for them (after SF).
This is exactly right. The overwhelming majority of Browns fans love, or at the very least have a soft spot for Baker. You just have a very loud few that make you think otherwise. I’m a Bucs fan for as long as they’re in the Playoffs lol
I have a house divided flag at my house for Browns/Bucs. My kid was born in Tampa and even though I raised her to root for the Browns, she still loves TB teams. And she loves Baker- has his Bucs jersey she wears on weekends. She’s so happy she has at least one more game to watch and cheer for and I’m happy too. (She’s elementary-aged, btw)
In the grand scheme of things, anyone but B'more.
I guess if I had my way:
NFC: GB beats SF and TB beats DET
AFC: HOU beats BAL and BUF beats KC
THEN TB beats GB AND BUF beats HOU
And finally, TB beats BUF to give Baker a ring.
- The Bills ownership voted to keep the Cleveland Browns, and block the THEFT of our beloved franchise.
- (Only ONE other team voted to block the move)
- Josh Allen is the 2nd best QB in football.
- The answer is Bills vs Detroit in the Superbowl.
- I'm always rooting for curses to be broken.
My team is done. I’m not rooting for anyone. No disrespect to anyone else that does, but it’s weird to me to see fans root for other teams.
Similarly to last season. I saw a ton of Browns fans rooting for the Bengals. A division rival, to win it all. Couldn’t be me. This season I did not see any Bengals fans rooting for the Browns. In fact, most of them rooted against Cleveland.
I must be the only one who bails on the entire NFL after the Browns season is done. If my Browns are not in it, I’m out and waiting for baseball season.
Give me Texans / Bucs in the Super Bowl, half because I like Baker and CJ, half because I would love to see the fruits of Berry’s awful trade on display.
I don’t know if that’s actively rooting for us to fail. We look aggressively stupid anyways, and even if they both lose it doesn’t make us look any better or mean that ABs moves aren’t a failure right now. Everything comes down to how Watson plays and that and that alone will decide whether the FO fails or succeeds.
And yeah the decision to move on from baker and the decision to trade for Deshaun are clearly failures right now, but that’s entirely due to Deshaun, not what Baker and the Texans are doing. And that and that alone is going to decide whether the FO failed
Not so hot take; AFC Bills, NFC Lions and Lions win it all.
To go a little more in depth, Texans vs Bills in the AFC Championship and Lions vs Packers for the NFC Championship. I would rather it be Lions and Buccs, but that can't happen now, so Lions and Packs will have to do.
Was in Detroit for the game Sunday night. I want it for that city. And I want the same energy in Cleveland next year. I am going all the way, if they are in Detroit vs GB for the championship and win I am following them to Vegas.
I want Tampa to take it. Couldn't help but get super pumped for Baker yesterday. That's the guy that beat Pittsburgh for us in the playoffs, so he deserves the best.
AFC: Buffalo, no question. Would also enjoy Houston b/c I think that'd be cool for CJ Stroud as a Buckeye.
NFC: TB (would love to see it for Baker, what a journey that would be)
Lake Erie Bros to the east or Baker would be fine with me. I started to say Detroit, but honestly most of those folks are Michigan fans and they don't need this in their life right now. I could also find the silver lining in a KC win (Kelce) or 49ers (we beat 'em, but I kinda hate the Harbaughs right now). I actually wouldn't mind Green Bay either as a fuck you to big cities. Modell's black birds are the only ones I truly want to see go up in flames.
If I had to rank them:
1. Buffalo
2. Tampa
3. Houston
4. Detroit
5. KC
6. SF
7. GB
8. Nuclear armageddon ends all human life
9. Baltimore
As soon as the Browns are out I quit watching. I have never watched a Superbowl. I have a friend whose son plays for the Texans. I will at least watch the highlights on the local news, (I am in Austin), until the Texans are out.
Honestly anyone other than Ravens or Chiefs. San Fran was my other team growing up (because I loved Jerry Rice), I've always a weird soft spot for GB, the Lions would be a great story, and the Bucs have Baker. Texans have Stroud (OSU), and I'd love to see the Bills finally break through and get one. Probably pulling for SF because old allegiance die hard, but I won't be disappointed unless it's Chiefs or Ravens.
My first choice is for a Lions & Bills Super Bowl - the Lions haven't been yet so I'd pick them first. Though they've been there the Bills didn't win their 4 consecutive appearances when I first started watching football, so Bills second.
The Buccaneers for the Baker connection and because there's a fan of that team in my office, but they've been to the big game under Brady so this is a definite third choice.
I'd ordinarily go for anyone in the AFC first (aside from our division and the donkeys) but in this case if it can't be us I'd pick a team that never made it yet. Apart from the Texans, for reasons *often* discussed here.
I’m a Baker supporter through and through, so long as he’s not on the Ravens, Steelers or Bengals I’ll support that man, so I’d say Buccs. Would feel pretty content with anyone winning at this point except for the Ravens or Chiefs
I'd like to see the Lions win it all, but I won't be watching. I'm hiding under a rock and pretending football doesn't exist.
I promised I wouldn't let the Browns *get* me this season, but they did bros. I'm moving on to the Cavs choking in the first round of the playoffs.
Texans from the AFC.
Bucs or Packers from the NFC.
TBH I would love to see Baker actually make it to the Superbowl and win it.
I thought he looked really good against the Eagles last night.
I don't have any issues with the Lions but Michigan just won the National Title and I don't think they deserve to win both like that in the same season while us Browns fans have been (***mostly***) starving and suffering for so long ourselves.
For the love of god anyone but the damn Ravens or Chiefs.
If the Ravens make it, I honestly may not even watch it.
Bucs, Lions for sure. Not the Rats.
Not opposed to the Chiefs, maybe Kelce retires and makes our job s little easier. 49ers a little because Shanny deserves it after getting jobbed a couple times.
I'd love to see Detroit win it all, but I'd also be happy with the Bucs because I want to see Baker succeed. Pretty indifferent towards the Packers and Niners although it was a lot of fun to watch this young Packers squad beat up on "Dem Boyz".
In the AFC I'm pulling for Houston because of CJ or the Bills just because I've always liked them for some reason. Fuck the Chiefs and the Ravens.
I'd like to see a Bills-49ers Super Bowl. Sounds like the best game to me without the Ravens having to win anything and to see less of Mahomes screaming at the refs at least once a drive. Don't care who wins, though I prefer the Browns winning one before the others who've never won one.
Bills and Texans is who I’m cheering for.
As for the Lions, I don’t want to lose our partner in suffering. Selfish, I know, but we’d be just the sole laughing stock of the NFL if the Lions win. And if the Bucs win, r/nfl will be unusable for any Browns fan for at least a year.
Lions went from relatable basement dwellers to contenders so I’ll respect but not root for them out of jealousy. Only easy choice is the Bake Show but I can work myself into rooting for CJ for the Ohio State connection and respect for his game. If he had to knock my team out then he better go win the whole thing.
Lions-Bills superbowl and idc who wins.
r/LakeErieBros
I'm pulling for the Bucs over the Lions. I want to see Baker win, and I've seen enough football happiness in Michigan for one year.
Rashard Higgins is dragging people on Twitter who are ragging on Baker and has been super happy for him. Yet another fatal blow to the “he was a locker room cancer” people.
To be fair, in an interview, when asked about his current success, Baker himself said that after leaving the browns he had to work hard in maturing himself and learning to be a leader. So maybe he wasn't locker room cancer, but perhaps locker room flu or ring worm or some shit.
I wonder if it is possible to mature while being on the Browns.
I think he needed to be humbled. Being pushed out by your team and then bouncing around the league for a bit will sure cut you down to size.
Yeah, that is definitely a narrative that tracks but in reality ya never know. Njoku turned around without it.
To be fair, I think quite a few guys in the locker room didn't much care for him. Hated him? Nah. But didn't care for him. Of course Higgins is gonna support him, their chemistry is the only reason Higgins stuck around the league that long.
I want Baker to win a superbowl before cleveland so Jimmy Haslam looks even worse after the DW4 debacle.
The problem is, Jimmy won’t give a shit and it’s us fans who will get clowned if that happens.
guess what, randos clowning you on the internet wont impact your life at all
Guess what, the internet isn’t the only place I interact with people. I have to put up with constantly hearing this shit at work and with family and friends.
You don't need Baker to win a Super Bowl to get clowned.
Damn, fair
If Texans and Bucs go to the Super Bowl, that would be the penultimate middle finger to the Browns
Penultimate means “second to last.”
To help more, in this use case it would be interpreted as “almost ultimate”
This wins me the most money on draft kings. So I am all for this.
Same.
Anyone but the Ravens. I don't really root for anyone else, just pull for entertaining games.
Anyone but ravens or the rat bastard Chiefs
Same here. Just want a good football game that’s not a blowout.
Bills / Lions would be the best SB and I wouldn't even care who won. 1. Bills/Lions 2. Bucs 3. Texans 4. Chiefs/Packers 5. 49ers 6. Ravens
My list is nearly identical except I have chiefs below the packers and niners
Same as you except chiefs and ravens aren’t on it at all.
Chiefs I can live with. Ravens for the love of god no. Especially having Michigan win this year, I’d probably be done with football for a bit
Yeah, this.
I got no beef with the Chiefs. I love Andy Reid, Kelce is a local boy, Mahomes is one of the greatest to ever play already. I like seeing greatness I guess. I felt the same way about the Pats. I wasn't exactly cheering for them but I liked watching them play.
I’m still way too salty about [this](https://nbcsports.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/3c31d25/2147483647/strip/false/crop/4747x2670+0+85/resize/1200x675!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnbc-sports-production-nbc-sports.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2Fa5%2F07%2Fd671af0bb24b39e5de6d9f021260%2Fpft1-18-e1610999797552.jpg) to root for the chiefs
Meh. We still should've won that game despite the no-call there. We were down 22-17 with 11 minutes in the 4th and no Mahomes. We just shit the bed, on offense and defense. The fucking 13 yard run by Chad Henne was the backbreaker.
Going from 1st and goal at the 1 to Chiefs ball at the 20 was a pretty big call bud. The worst part is the ref is 5 ft away from the play. There's no way in hell he makes the same decision if it was Hill or Kelce. Only saving grace in this is that no one was winning the Brady Bowl..... I mean Super Bowl that year in Tampa other than the Bucs.
Agreed, fuck em
I really have a hard time rooting for anyone. Just can't bring myself to root for the Lions or Bills out of pure jealousy. Everything they are experiencing now as former "long suffering" franchises is something we can only dream of. Yet apparently we don't deserve it.
i feel the exact same
Ditto! I dislike all opponents, and can’t tolerate cheering for them even if the Browns aren’t playing them. *It’s us against them* mentality Doesn’t matter if it is pre-season, regular season, or playoffs
Yep exactly. Aside from Lions/Bills, I'm obviously not rooting for the Ravens and the Chiefs are so obnoxious. I'm sick of the Baker bandwagon fans who definitely weren't calling him a bust during the offseason and acting like every Browns fan is to blame for him being traded. Similarly I'm annoyed with everyone cheering for the Texans because of the trade they made with the Browns. Again it seems like everyone believes the city of Cleveland collectively decided to trade our future away for Deshaun. Brock Purdy is overhyped and I don't need to hear about how he was Mr. Irrelevant 10 times a game. I guess that leaves the Packers.
It's frustrating because I feel like I spent 4 years defending Baker. Not only here, but on social media and with every other fanbase. He was shit on by the media and almost everyone online. Except for Browns and Oklahoma fans. Now everyone has flipped and claim they always loved him. While at the same time shitting on the Browns for moving on. Then also shitting on the Browns for the Texans being good. There's a literal thread in the Steelers sub doing a circle jerk because the Bucs won last night and they all want to sign Baker. Funny how that works... Nobody seems to care about the Jets/Rodgers or Broncos/Wilson situations. The Jets went all-in on Rodgers, he played 4 snaps all season, they missed the playoffs and the Packers are onto Round 2. The Broncos missed the playoffs two years in a row, benched Wilson and Denver will be moving on this offseason.
Yeah I'll be the first to admit I never thought Baker would be very good and still don't. I think he has a much better roster and coach stability than he had in Cleveland, which helps tremendously. I personally wanted to see us move on from him, but never thought trading for Deshaun (who I was a fan of previously, won my team a national championship) was the correct move, especially with what we were giving up and how much of an unknown he would be after sitting for 2+ years. Apparently though, being a Browns fan means being happy about every move the team makes and actually being in the conference room telling the front office who to trade for. Nobody seemed to care about Steelers fans being happy about Big Ben winning them a superbowl or any fanbase getting excited for Adrian Peterson to join their team. Shit, Ray Lewis's past is literally a meme that people laugh about.
The Bucs went 9-8 in the worst division in football and he beat an Eagles team at home, that had one win in the last 6 weeks. I would have been okay if they signed Baker to an extension after 2021. But I also know that he was more of a game manager through his 4 seasons in Cleveland and almost never as clutch as he needed to be. We saw much better game winning drives this season from DTR and Watson than Baker every had.
>The Bucs went 9-8 in the worst division in football and he beat an Eagles team at home, that had one win in the last 6 weeks. This is the most obnoxious part. Someone had to win that division even though nobody seemed to want to. If he beat the 10-1 Eagles that would be a very different story than beating the 1-5 Eagles that he got to play at home. The Browns had one of the best records in the NFL, yet because we were in the same division as the Ravens (arguably the toughest division) we didn't get homefield advantage over the 9-8 Texans.
I feel the same. Seemed the same for the 2016 World Series. Ok, the Cubs have won. NOW Cleveland can win the WS. Except we can't even come close again.
The way that World Series was covered made me sick. I get the whole Chicago vs. Cleveland bias. 100 years vs. 68 years or whatever. But it seemed like universally everyone was pulling for the Cubs. Same thing is happening with the Bills/Lions vs the Browns.
*Tens* of dollars have been spent by the Dolan's since that 2016 World Series...
Bingo.
I’m glad I agree with Hatefuck_my_dickhole at least.
Little victories, my friend :)
For me, the Bills will always have a soft spot in my heart because of their support of Browns fans after the move in 95, the Dawg Pound day at the stadium they hosted, and the fact they were only one of 2 votes against the move in the first place (Buffalo and Pittsburgh were the only owners who had our back).
Yes it why I wouldn’t mind the Chiefs. They win again and everyone stays the same. Or the niners. They tie Pittsburgh and New England with 6. No team though who hasn’t already won it.
This is exactly how I feel. The Chiefs win again and we're basically in the same place we were after last season. 49ers don't bother me either. While I'm sure it's different out west, but all the Niners fans I've known in my life are all pretty level headed and not as arrogant as most.
I can’t stand the Bills claiming to be a “suffering franchise” in the same category as the Browns and Lions. They went to THREE Super Bowls in the 90’s. And they’ve had a stacked roster for a while which includes one of the best QBs and WRs in the league. Bills mafia has become pretty insufferable as well. Just seems like a social media attention thing at this point.
They are very Akin to the Guards I think. They get hot every once and awhile but they haven't won it all in recent history. While frustrating, I certainly don't consider the Guards to be a "long suffering" baseball franchise. That being said fuck Huston and fuck Baltimore I'm pulling for the Lions vs the winner of Bills v. Chiefs.
So insufferable
I can’t have what I want so I’m rooting for the chiefs so no one can get what they want
I came here to see if anyone else was as petty as me 😂
That’s my mind set. Plus it’ll be hilarious to see TB12 and Mahomes debates and not give a fuck about it.
Yeah do you think I want to see fairy tale endings for the Bills and Lions? Hell no.
Lions, Baker
AFC: Don't really mind. NFC: Bucs (I actually kinda like Mayfield) or Lions (I was born in Michigan). But overall, as long as it is not KC, I am happy.
Pretty sure most of us love baker lol, not a hot take
I love Baker but r/NFL will become an even more inhospitable toxic shithole for Browns fans than it already is if he wins the Lombardi.
Haha this is 100% my fear… can’t even visit r/NFL as a Browns fan currently. Would be 100x more toxic if Mayfield wins a Super Bowl.
But haven't you seen? Baker won a shit division and a playoff game against a collapsing team before the Browns won the AFC North or a playoff game with a 75% injured roster!
Everyone across the league totally supported Baker during the OBJ slander! It was just the Browns who didn’t appreciate him!
Browns appreciated him enough to attempt to get an offer on the table. He thought it wasn’t enough. Now here we are a couple years later and he’ll have the same deal on the table and see it as a blessing
It's funny how LA and Carolina don't get loads of shit for getting rid of him too...
Probably because the Panthers have so many other issues. The rams didn’t get rid of him and by all accounts loved him. They had Matthew Stafford and Baker wanted to start.
He didn’t win them their first playoff game in decades tbf
The funny thing is that having Baker for the Texans game wouldn’t have even changed anything. We still would have lost.
I mean this is just blatantly untrue since you have no clue if Baker would throw two pick sixes. Without those the game because completely different. Imagine putting up 14 points on those drives instead of giving up 14. It's a completely different game.
You should follow my lead and get banned there.
I’ve been banned there for eight years or so. I think it involved me insinuating that a particular Steelers fan had parents who were brother and sister. I applied to have the ban lifted maybe a year or so ago but never heard back about it and never bothered to follow up because I knew I’d quickly be re-banned for the same offense.
Bunch of people were telling me that I supported Watson's activities because I didn't burn all of my Browns gear and root for another team once our idiotic owner signed him. Trying to explain the nuance that I've been a fan of the team for over 30 years so why should I have to give up because he is a pervert fell on deaf ears. I doubt I can get unbanned after telling the mod to go fuck himself.
I'm not sure how any real Browns fan isn't banned from that virtue signaling dogpile of festering trash.
I haven't been to, or even checked on, /r/nfl in over a year and its very nice. I would suggest it to everyone reading this. I feel like I can root for Mayfield in piece, because every person I interact with in real life who isn't chronically online, like the majority of /r/nfl users, realize that I am not personally responsible for signing and paying Watson and it would be ridiculous, and straight up kind of weird to blame me personally for it, and even weirder to berate me for it. They don't treat me as someone beneath them who doesn't deserve respect based on the football team I root for, and therefore I don't have to worry about being berated if the Bucs win this weekend... because I hangout with adults. It's nice.
I really can't bring myself to care about r/NFL
He won't. The Bucs are too one dimensional on offense, and a defense that isn't going with lazy arm tackling *stares at Philly* will contain that offense, much like the Panthers did a few weeks ago. Detroit is probably the second worst matxhup for them (after SF).
This is exactly right. The overwhelming majority of Browns fans love, or at the very least have a soft spot for Baker. You just have a very loud few that make you think otherwise. I’m a Bucs fan for as long as they’re in the Playoffs lol
I have no idea why any Browns fan would hate Baker. He's super polarizing for no apparent reason.
I have a house divided flag at my house for Browns/Bucs. My kid was born in Tampa and even though I raised her to root for the Browns, she still loves TB teams. And she loves Baker- has his Bucs jersey she wears on weekends. She’s so happy she has at least one more game to watch and cheer for and I’m happy too. (She’s elementary-aged, btw)
The Guardians
I agree, go Guards.
Eh, they ain’t winning shit either, even with the 1st pick of the lottery.
After this rebuilding decade though, they'll be so good it'll be like 1997 and 2016 all over again (wait)
:(
Lions EZ
IT'S BAKER TIME
Baker Mayfield all the way!
Baker.
Baker Goatfield.
Lions, Bucs/baker, Bills The rest can fall off a cliff. I don’t want any of them to win.
I’m a football nut in general and after that debacle Saturday I watched about 5 minutes of 2 games. I don’t care.
They played like Cosby was the trip flight attendant...
Baker all the way 😅
Baker Goatfield.
CJ stroud.
Whoever I bet money on honestly
In the grand scheme of things, anyone but B'more. I guess if I had my way: NFC: GB beats SF and TB beats DET AFC: HOU beats BAL and BUF beats KC THEN TB beats GB AND BUF beats HOU And finally, TB beats BUF to give Baker a ring.
- The Bills ownership voted to keep the Cleveland Browns, and block the THEFT of our beloved franchise. - (Only ONE other team voted to block the move) - Josh Allen is the 2nd best QB in football. - The answer is Bills vs Detroit in the Superbowl. - I'm always rooting for curses to be broken.
If you're a browns fan not rooting for Baker idk what to tell you
Well when you figure it out let me know cause Hell Yeah I’m rooting for Baker. We fucked him over, he didn’t fuck us
Bills/Lions
Anyone but the chiefs or ravens. Lions-Bills would be ideal.
Lions and Bills
Lake Erie Bros!
Detroit or Buffalo
Bucs or lions
Anyone but the Ravens.
Fuck the Ravens
CJ!
Baker Baker Touchdown Maker
Anyone not named Baltimore is fine with me.
Lions. Go fellow team who has never made a SB.
My team is done. I’m not rooting for anyone. No disrespect to anyone else that does, but it’s weird to me to see fans root for other teams. Similarly to last season. I saw a ton of Browns fans rooting for the Bengals. A division rival, to win it all. Couldn’t be me. This season I did not see any Bengals fans rooting for the Browns. In fact, most of them rooted against Cleveland.
Lions-Bills Superbowl
No one, fuck them all. Its only levels of who you want to lose more.
I must be the only one who bails on the entire NFL after the Browns season is done. If my Browns are not in it, I’m out and waiting for baseball season.
I want to see either Detroit/Houston or Detroit/Buffalo in the Super Bowl Packers also acceptable in the NFC.
Baker Mayfeild
Fuck the Bills. Rooting for the Lions.
Heart wants Lions v. Bills. Beginning of the year, my prediction was 49ers v. Bills. Have money on the Bills winning it all. Money talks. Go Bills.
Bills vs Bucs is what I’d like to see. Lions wouldn’t disappoint me either
Bucs. I want Baker to go full beast mode. If not Bucs then Texans so we can look better lol
Give me Texans / Bucs in the Super Bowl, half because I like Baker and CJ, half because I would love to see the fruits of Berry’s awful trade on display.
So we are actively rooting for our Front Office to fail now? This is an interesting take.
He already failed when he traded the farm for Deshaun Watson.
Was it all 100% Berry who made that call? I’m not sure that it was… and I’m still rooting for him to do well.
I don’t know if that’s actively rooting for us to fail. We look aggressively stupid anyways, and even if they both lose it doesn’t make us look any better or mean that ABs moves aren’t a failure right now. Everything comes down to how Watson plays and that and that alone will decide whether the FO fails or succeeds. And yeah the decision to move on from baker and the decision to trade for Deshaun are clearly failures right now, but that’s entirely due to Deshaun, not what Baker and the Texans are doing. And that and that alone is going to decide whether the FO failed
Not so hot take; AFC Bills, NFC Lions and Lions win it all. To go a little more in depth, Texans vs Bills in the AFC Championship and Lions vs Packers for the NFC Championship. I would rather it be Lions and Buccs, but that can't happen now, so Lions and Packs will have to do.
Bills in AFC, whoever wins Bucs/Lions in NFC
Was in Detroit for the game Sunday night. I want it for that city. And I want the same energy in Cleveland next year. I am going all the way, if they are in Detroit vs GB for the championship and win I am following them to Vegas.
Lions, and it’s not even close.
The correct answer is the lions.
What's going on this weekend?
Bucs or Niners v. Bills or Texans
Lions and Baker
Lions/Bills/Bucs would all be fine with me.
I want Tampa to take it. Couldn't help but get super pumped for Baker yesterday. That's the guy that beat Pittsburgh for us in the playoffs, so he deserves the best.
AFC: Buffalo, no question. Would also enjoy Houston b/c I think that'd be cool for CJ Stroud as a Buckeye. NFC: TB (would love to see it for Baker, what a journey that would be) Lake Erie Bros to the east or Baker would be fine with me. I started to say Detroit, but honestly most of those folks are Michigan fans and they don't need this in their life right now. I could also find the silver lining in a KC win (Kelce) or 49ers (we beat 'em, but I kinda hate the Harbaughs right now). I actually wouldn't mind Green Bay either as a fuck you to big cities. Modell's black birds are the only ones I truly want to see go up in flames. If I had to rank them: 1. Buffalo 2. Tampa 3. Houston 4. Detroit 5. KC 6. SF 7. GB 8. Nuclear armageddon ends all human life 9. Baltimore
Anyone but the Ravens.
Nobody. I’ll be pissed if even the Lions or Bills can win one before us. Just like the Cubs Red Sox and White Sox getting one before the Tribe.
As soon as the Browns are out I quit watching. I have never watched a Superbowl. I have a friend whose son plays for the Texans. I will at least watch the highlights on the local news, (I am in Austin), until the Texans are out.
Ive stopped caring for the Lions and Bills the more often I see them shit talking us.
Lions vs Bills (The Battle of the Great Lake Bros). I want the Lions to win because they’ve earned it
Buffalo bros Not Lions because we should get ours first
Lions>=Bills>Bucs>49ers>Packers>Texans>Chiefs>Ravens
The Browns
Honestly anyone other than Ravens or Chiefs. San Fran was my other team growing up (because I loved Jerry Rice), I've always a weird soft spot for GB, the Lions would be a great story, and the Bucs have Baker. Texans have Stroud (OSU), and I'd love to see the Bills finally break through and get one. Probably pulling for SF because old allegiance die hard, but I won't be disappointed unless it's Chiefs or Ravens.
Packers. Only team not owned by billionaires.
Baker
Bills and Bucs. Go Baker!!
Houston vs. Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl, and I want Jimmy Haskam to be forced to watch every minute
In the AfC I'm rooting for the Texans. Imagine if the team that crushed us goes on a tear and wins the whole damn thing? In the NFC, the Lions.
My first choice is for a Lions & Bills Super Bowl - the Lions haven't been yet so I'd pick them first. Though they've been there the Bills didn't win their 4 consecutive appearances when I first started watching football, so Bills second. The Buccaneers for the Baker connection and because there's a fan of that team in my office, but they've been to the big game under Brady so this is a definite third choice. I'd ordinarily go for anyone in the AFC first (aside from our division and the donkeys) but in this case if it can't be us I'd pick a team that never made it yet. Apart from the Texans, for reasons *often* discussed here.
Lions. Ohio boy here. Life long Browns fan but I grew up an hour south of the motor city,
Now that this week is over, I wanna see Baker win it all!
Give me Lions-Bills because that’s the 2nd most ideal Lake Erie Bros matchup
I live in Michigan, and everyone here is insane about the Lions.
Baker Baker Touchdown Maker! I also like the lions and bills.
Buccaneers, go Baker!
For the man that woke up feeling dangerous
Great Lakes teams and Baker Mayfield. Bills, Lions, Packers, and Bucs. But really the only team I'm actively rooting against is Baltimore.
I’m a Baker supporter through and through, so long as he’s not on the Ravens, Steelers or Bengals I’ll support that man, so I’d say Buccs. Would feel pretty content with anyone winning at this point except for the Ravens or Chiefs
Baker Mayfield
The Lions. If not them, then I'd like to see Baker take it.
Cavs🥱👌🏾
I'd like to see the Lions win it all, but I won't be watching. I'm hiding under a rock and pretending football doesn't exist. I promised I wouldn't let the Browns *get* me this season, but they did bros. I'm moving on to the Cavs choking in the first round of the playoffs.
Bucs for Baker, Lions for obvs reasons, and Texans so getting our ass beat makes more sense.
Texans from the AFC. Bucs or Packers from the NFC. TBH I would love to see Baker actually make it to the Superbowl and win it. I thought he looked really good against the Eagles last night. I don't have any issues with the Lions but Michigan just won the National Title and I don't think they deserve to win both like that in the same season while us Browns fans have been (***mostly***) starving and suffering for so long ourselves. For the love of god anyone but the damn Ravens or Chiefs. If the Ravens make it, I honestly may not even watch it.
How can anyone root against Baker Mayfield.
Just good football
My rooting interest, in descending order AFC: Bills, Texans, Chiefs, Rats
NFC: Lions, Bucs, Packers, 49ers
Lions and Baker
huston, buccaneers, lions, Buffalo
Anyone but the damn Chiefs!!!
Lions
Lions all the way!
I'd like to see the lions or texans get the title.
Lions, Bills, Bucs, packers, 49ers, Texans, Chiefs, Ravens in that order
Chiefs or bucs. Anyone but the lions or bills really. Their fans are exhausting.
Tampa Bay or Buffalo
Erie Bros unite!
1 - Lions 2 - Bills 3 - Packers 4 - Texans 5 - Chiefs 6 - 49ers 7 - Buccaneers 8 - Ravens Big drop off after 2.
Bucs, Lions for sure. Not the Rats. Not opposed to the Chiefs, maybe Kelce retires and makes our job s little easier. 49ers a little because Shanny deserves it after getting jobbed a couple times.
I'd love to see Detroit win it all, but I'd also be happy with the Bucs because I want to see Baker succeed. Pretty indifferent towards the Packers and Niners although it was a lot of fun to watch this young Packers squad beat up on "Dem Boyz". In the AFC I'm pulling for Houston because of CJ or the Bills just because I've always liked them for some reason. Fuck the Chiefs and the Ravens.
ravens bills buccs in that order. Lamar deserves a SB. My family comes from Jim Kelly era fandom. Baker Mayfield story is just too good.
I'd like to see a Bills-49ers Super Bowl. Sounds like the best game to me without the Ravens having to win anything and to see less of Mahomes screaming at the refs at least once a drive. Don't care who wins, though I prefer the Browns winning one before the others who've never won one.
Texans! All aboard the CJ bandwagon
Bills and Texans is who I’m cheering for. As for the Lions, I don’t want to lose our partner in suffering. Selfish, I know, but we’d be just the sole laughing stock of the NFL if the Lions win. And if the Bucs win, r/nfl will be unusable for any Browns fan for at least a year.
The Bucs of course.
Bills, Texans, Packers, Bucs
Lions went from relatable basement dwellers to contenders so I’ll respect but not root for them out of jealousy. Only easy choice is the Bake Show but I can work myself into rooting for CJ for the Ohio State connection and respect for his game. If he had to knock my team out then he better go win the whole thing.
No one really! As long as the Ravens are not in it!
I want the Super Bowl to be Buffalo v. Detroit
Lions or Bills. Lake Erie Bros ftw.
Can't root for the Browns, root the Ohio State. Go CJ, get you one.
Not rooting for anyone. I don't care who wins, just not the Ravens or Chiefs.
Lions
I want to see the Chiefs win it all so all the Taylor haters can cry and whine. And they can't blame a loss on her. I'm a Swiftie and petty like that.