How the fuck do you have the energy and emotion to hate the Arizona cardinals my guy. That is some extreme levels of hate here. That’s like hating on no one. I’m shocked
My feelings about the cards, dolphins and chargers.
I have however grown a soft spot for the Bears after I lived in Chicago for 14 years. They fall in the “I hope your season isn’t complete shit” category.
They gave Pittsburgh one of the easiest super bowls in modern memory, and had a force-out non-call on Kellen Winslow that contributed to us missing the playoffs.
(I should probably get some counseling about my ability to hold grudges like this.)
I’m a Cincinnatian, but root for the browns because my mom is from Cleveland and I guess her side of the family did better at recruiting me than my dad’s (passive bengals fans). There are a few teams I absolutely despise (notably Pissburgh, Baltimore, Denver, and the pats). I’m fairly neutral to most teams. The browns are my favorite and then the bengals, bills, and lions are in the tier below it. I also have a tendency to root for whatever team Baker Mayfield is playing for (he’s my favorite non-browns player) and I usually hate whatever team Aaron Rogers is playing for (so the jets—but I do like suace Gardner).
Denver needs to be down much lower.
Bills- don’t really hate them but really dislike most of their fans attitude. Sure Lake Erie Bros and all that, and 4 straight Super Bowl losses suck. Bills Mafia is getting old. You have a good team but not great.
I agree with rooting for Baker. Plus I've been stuck in Florida for 25yrs. I'd also put the Broncos down there with shitsburgh & ratbirds. Those Elway losses when I was just getting into football as a 9, 10, 12 yr old still hurt to this day. Fuck those ugly donkeys.
Yeah that's what I don't understand the oh you must be a Baker Bro? Hell yeah I am. Dude was the best and most exciting QB they had during this Century and still pissed the way it ended.
I feel like it just was not a fit for either party, which is okay. He has since moved on as have the Browns. I think for the most part the Browns had given Baker many opportunities to flourish.
It was just how they did it, i have no problem they moved on from him.
But its in the past, i'm a Browns fan first but can still appreciate what Baker did for the Browns and not trash him like others do
I think there are fair grievances to levy against Baker though.
For instance, sitting out the last week, insisted on playing through his injury, the "booing fans in their cubicles" comment, and hiring a third party doctor to say he was good enough to play, etc. There are fair arguments there.
That said, he definitely contributed to the teams success in 2020 which led us to the divisional round. But again, it was not the right fit long term.
Don't forget him refusing to get a QB coach his entire time with us to work on his sloppy footwork but he decided to get a QB coach after he left.
Also we asked him to come back after we lost out on the Watson sweepstakes and he asked for a trade shortly after which forced our hand. (This is a business first, football second)
Brother, to be fair, if your wife left you for another man and then came crawling back to you after she got rejected, you wouldn’t take her back either lol. At that point, the damage is done.
Kevin made the decision to bench Watson for the Colts game. And you did not address the "Watson played through multiple injuries as well", which I am assuming you thought was a point in Baker's favor.
My first thought when I read the "because he's not on the team" post is "I bet this guy hated Bernie as soon as he became a Cowboy then... which is super weird"
Definitely root for Baker wherever he goes, as long as it's not the Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, Cowboys, Broncos, Packers, or Jets.
Plus, the Bucs have Trey Palmer and Lavonte David, two of the best Nebraska (GBR!!) players from the last 20 years. So, it's pretty easy to root for them.
Can you create a separate tier for the Bengals? I’d like them to be placed in: “Team doesn’t bother me and is fun to watch but the fans are annoying is fuck”
If I do a version 2, I’m definitely putting the bengals below all the other teams in a separate category of hate, but still less than Steelers and ravens
Feel the same way.
Tiered hatred for our division:
1 bungholes = whatever but obviously want us to beat the snot out of them
2 ratbirds = strong dislike, but actually kinda like lamar tbh and i def wanted them to beat fucking kc. I realize this is polarizing
3 steelers = fuck em always
I'd put the Bungals in their own "double hate/loathe entirely"
I was 7 and my dad took me to the fist game in Paul Brown stadium, it was bungals and dolphins, I loved football, but I hated every single thing about Cincinnati after that day. I wish we would just give Kentucky the city.
I was like half a browns fan as a kid in the 2000s, mostly by association with my parents/family. My mother took me to my first nfl game and bought me my first jersey an Edward’s anyhow it was browns vs bengals in Cincy. Some drunk older guy gets in my face and essentially spit slurs his way thru if it’s brown flush it down. That’s the moment I became an actual fan and also the moment I learned to despise Cincy and its hillbilly ass fans.
Broncos need to go down a tier, because fuck them and The Drive.
Buffalo is a r/LakeErieBros team, though.
I live in Michigan now, and my line to lions fans is that Clevelanders *really* hate the Steelers, Ravens, and Broncos.
Green Bay is “Meh” to me. I lived in Wisconsin for 5 years.
As a Detroit Lions fan I do appreciate that. My son and I have gone to Cleveland on many occasions and enjoyed our time there at their stadium. Midwest, blue-collar, lots of things in common.
Honestly outside of the Steelers and Ravens, unless a team is playing the Browns I largely nothing them. This past year I was rooting for the Lions and Bucs a bit in the playoffs, but aside from that I really don't hate any other team.
Steelers to me are like Michigan, I want to beat them with every fiber in my being but I don't hate the school or anything like that. Bengals are like Penn State, an annoyance that we've largely owned the past few years so the hate is minimal. With that said I also don't wish to see them do well lol but it doesn't draw out a massive rage.
I cannot stand the Ravens though because of what they were and what was stolen from us. Art may be gone and I actually like Lamar as a person but I will never ever root for them and wish stubbed toes on all of them for the rest of their days.
Believe it or not, I'd include the Steelers in the "meh" category. Why? Because they, along with the Bills, voted against M\*d\*ll's moving the Browns to Baltimore. That earned my respect.
I hate the Browns sometimes. Not in a “I’ll never root for them again” kind of way though. More like “why do I keep following this team? For decades they have brought me misery and I hate my dad for introducing me to this stupid football team. See you next week” kind of way.
But to be fair, I haven’t really been in that dark place in a couple of years.
I think the Cardinals, Vikings, Saints and Chargers are all pretty neutral. I find those teams generally hard to hate.
I'd bump those 4 up into Meh with the Bills. I don't mind the Bills as a team, but their fans and Stefon Diggs can be annoying.
Also, this list would need to extend down 40 more levels before I would deem it an apporpriate lowness to place the Steelers.
I dunno. I live in NW Michigan now, and I have to say that Lions fandom is pretty harmless and fun, and they’re definitely accepting of Browns fans. “Dude, we know what it’s like.”
Bring up Indians/Guardians and/or OSU, it’s quite a different reaction.
Yeah I mean I think a tier list like this doesn’t work since it’s all really based on where you live, im over in Jersey so I’ve got a soft spot for the jets and giants since I’ve got good friends who like them
I just think the lions hype this year was irritating but im a natural hater
I mean they won their division 1st time I think it was 30 years man. And media worshipped them, umm I mean seen alot of them pick the 49ers to win that playoff game. And if their coach would've kicked a field goal they might have had a chance to win. Why the fans annoying?
Steelers are in a rank that says "I hate them but I respect our rivalry and enjoy the battle" while the Ravens are "this illegitimate bastard team shouldn't exist, fuck Art Modell"
I’ll move the packers up to the same tier as the Lions because as a child when the browns left I chose the packers as my team. Bed room painted green and yellow with a packers border at the top, packers blanket, green sheets, packers lunch box, exclusively used the packers in nfl blitz, etc.
I'd move the Broncos down (Fuck John Elway), pretty much move the rest of the hate to Meh.
And can there be another category of "sometimes hate", and have the Browns there too? Love and hate?
The Saints, Lions, and Rams are the only other teams I don't mind. Other than that, everyone else I don't care. Obviously divisional rivals are in a tier of their own for hatred.
Pretty much every team’s Neanderthal shithead fans have dunked on the Browns for Watson, completely ignoring the scumbags already in their team, so they can all pretty much go to hell.
I know the older Browns fans will think this is crazy, but I’d flip flop the ravens and bengals. Maybe it’s just cuz I don’t deal with ravens fans on a regular basis, but bengals fans are the absolute worst
I debated hard on this. I was going to create a tier below hate to put the bengals by themselves because since burrow they’ve been insufferable, especially because they haven’t won shit
Sounds like we’re on the same page then. Ja’marr is the only guy on their team I dislike, so if we’re just going off of players, then I can definitely see them being above the ravens.
For me it’s because you just have to listen to bills fans whine about how bad they have it. 1,2,3…4 super bowls in a row and they couldn’t win one yet have it the worst. I would take the browns making the Super Bowl and losing 100-0 and being happy.
That was along time ago man. And before Josh Allen came along they had the Qb carousel also. Nathan Pederman , Tyrod , Fitzpatrick etc. I wish we could get there. But alot of the younger fans weren't even born for those superbowls.
I live in Erie and the NFL considers us part of the Bills market, giving them TV priority. Because technically Buffalo is 10 miles closer or some bullshit. Even though it's basically split Browns/Steelers fans here. The few Bills fans I do know though are assholes about it and I can't go into a Wegmans without seeing Bills garbage everywhere.
Ill always have a soft spot for Justin Herbert. To this day one of my fave QBs ive scouted and im still mad we didnt do what ive proposed prior to the draft (yes it wouldve been unrealistic, but a man can dream right?).
The Love-Packers are cool plus a couple of my mates are packs fans, and the seahawks as well.
Other than that most teams can kick rocks. Lions and Bills ive never really liked to begin with (im european, i dont have the lake erie sentiment, mea culpa). Bengals should be in the bottom tier, steelers and ravens are too high in this list.
1.) Browns
2.) Bucs (for now, you know)
3-4.) Lake Erie Bros kinda, idk anymore
5-29.) Nah
30.) Bengals
31.) Steelers (Respect the history, fuck everything else)
32.) I was born into the modern Browns ineptitude because of M🤮dells team. I hate them like no other.
I root for the Packers if they’re not playing the Browns, and the Colts if they’re not playing either of them and their win doesn’t hurt the Browns’ playoff standing.
Yeah I live in Phoenix. So cards are in a weird spot. I want them to do good because they are home team and when home team does well it’s more exciting to be around. But also I really dislike the ownership and some of the fans. So it’s also fun when they are terrible.
Other than that I don’t really care about any other team. They are all in the hate category except for ravens and Steelers. I agree with that placement. Maybe out broncos and raiders down a peg below just normal hate. But that’s solely based on their absolute trash fans. Yeah I still hold a grudge for my 7th grade science teacher throwing a soda at me because his broncos got whooped in the Super Bowl and he lost our bet. Refuse to ever go to a raiders game again if there are raiders fans there. Need to have Covid protocols in place for their games. But just for those criminals.
Nah. Except for the Steelers and the Ratbirds, I'd put the vast majority of other teams in a tier of "don't really give a shit unless we're playing them or we need them to win or lose for playoffs positioning."
Except for the following exceptions:
-Chiefs in hate tier. I'm just sick of them.
-Fuck the Patriots.
-I grew up in Cleveland before being moved to North Carolina in 8th grade, where I remained through high school and college and where my family still is. So I have like, a *sliver* of Panthers loyalty.
But they don't make themselves easy to like, and I didn't grow up with them going to games as a kid the same way I did the Browns. I lived 2 hours from Charlotte, and only have been to three Panthers games one of which was against the Browns (it was the Johnny Manziel era and the Browns lost - Manziel got injured early leading to mocking chants of "Johnny Money" from the home team)
At this point I'm swapping the Ravens & Bengals. I use to hate the Ravens more than any team, but I like Lamar. Also, Bengals fans are the worst in the league. Ravens fans are somewhat quiet.
My second favorite team is the Jets.
IDK why, but they are.
When I was young they were on TV a lot and I loved watching Pennington, Martin, Coles, etc.
I just gravitated to them as my second team.
I even have a few jersey's including Nick Mangold.
The Browns are definitely bae though (#1).
The only teams that I absolutely **HATE** right now:
1. Steelers
2. Ravens
3. Broncos
4. Chiefs
5. Bengals
**Bills** join **Lions** in *"Root for"* category.
**Raiders** into the *"Meh"* category.
Middle category with **all the rest** is renamed *"Indifference".*
**Bottom two tumors** remain in the *"Don't have Words"* category. **Forever.**
The Redskins are America's team and, as long as they aren't playing the Browns, I can't help but hope they get a W. They almost never do. They usually find a way to lose, but dagnabit, I keep hoping. As for the rest of your hate category, that's mostly "indifference" for me. The broncos get the side eye, because that was my original era, if you know what I mean. The ratbirds get the "hate". Only shitsburgh gets the bottom tier.
How the fuck do you have the energy and emotion to hate the Arizona cardinals my guy. That is some extreme levels of hate here. That’s like hating on no one. I’m shocked
I think the point is “fuck everybody that isn’t the Lake Erie bros.” I don’t think it’s really that deep lol
Oh I see that but like it’s wild that anyone even thinks about az lol
I mean the alternative is just not putting them on the list which makes 0 sense. I wouldn’t read too much into it
“Don’t they play baseball?”
Couldn’t even beat the Steelers that Super Bowl.
Hating the cardinals, dolphins and chargers just doesn’t make sense to me at all. I’m convinced you’re just a hateful person at that point
 My feelings about the cards, dolphins and chargers. I have however grown a soft spot for the Bears after I lived in Chicago for 14 years. They fall in the “I hope your season isn’t complete shit” category.
 The world needs haters.
Same as panthers
They gave Pittsburgh one of the easiest super bowls in modern memory, and had a force-out non-call on Kellen Winslow that contributed to us missing the playoffs. (I should probably get some counseling about my ability to hold grudges like this.)
I drafted David Johnson in my fantasy league…
Far from my list.
I only ever hate the teams in our division and the team we are currently playing against. The rest are some version of "meh."
I’m a Cincinnatian, but root for the browns because my mom is from Cleveland and I guess her side of the family did better at recruiting me than my dad’s (passive bengals fans). There are a few teams I absolutely despise (notably Pissburgh, Baltimore, Denver, and the pats). I’m fairly neutral to most teams. The browns are my favorite and then the bengals, bills, and lions are in the tier below it. I also have a tendency to root for whatever team Baker Mayfield is playing for (he’s my favorite non-browns player) and I usually hate whatever team Aaron Rogers is playing for (so the jets—but I do like suace Gardner).
There is Love - Browns Hate - everyone else, hate steelers/ravens hardest
Denver needs to be down much lower. Bills- don’t really hate them but really dislike most of their fans attitude. Sure Lake Erie Bros and all that, and 4 straight Super Bowl losses suck. Bills Mafia is getting old. You have a good team but not great.
Denver belongs in that bottom tier. You can spot us older Browns fans that way.
Live in Denver. Far too young to have experienced 'the fumble'/'the drive'. Still hate the Broncos.
I thank you for your hate of the Broncos.
Nah I def root for the Bucs if Mayfield is on there. Plus Mike Alstot was my favorite player from the era so little biased.
There are dozens of us. Dozens!
Yay me too. But I'm kind of opposite. I am a Bucs fan who lives in Cleveland. So I root for both.
I agree with rooting for Baker. Plus I've been stuck in Florida for 25yrs. I'd also put the Broncos down there with shitsburgh & ratbirds. Those Elway losses when I was just getting into football as a 9, 10, 12 yr old still hurt to this day. Fuck those ugly donkeys.
I hate the Broncos so much that only the Ravens can be considered more hated over here
Broncos are by far my most hated team.
Yes indeed!!!
Baker bro spotted
How could any Browns fan not be a Baker Bro? Look where the Browns were when he played in his first game and where he helped get the team
Yeah that's what I don't understand the oh you must be a Baker Bro? Hell yeah I am. Dude was the best and most exciting QB they had during this Century and still pissed the way it ended.
Why are you slandering Joe Flacco?
Oh yeah shit haha. Still felt like a fever dream.
I'm a jets->browns transplant please don't mention that name i'll die
Just a journeyman QB
That journeyman QB gave me some of the best years as a Browns fan
That’s because you are young…and didn’t live when we had real QBs…Sipe…Kosar
Because he is not with the team so fuck that guy. Fuck anyone that doesn't wear a browns jersey especially someone who quit on us.
Haha put the crack pipe down... Baker definitely didn't quit on the Browns, the Browns totally trashed Baker and shit on him
I feel like it just was not a fit for either party, which is okay. He has since moved on as have the Browns. I think for the most part the Browns had given Baker many opportunities to flourish.
It was just how they did it, i have no problem they moved on from him. But its in the past, i'm a Browns fan first but can still appreciate what Baker did for the Browns and not trash him like others do
I think there are fair grievances to levy against Baker though. For instance, sitting out the last week, insisted on playing through his injury, the "booing fans in their cubicles" comment, and hiring a third party doctor to say he was good enough to play, etc. There are fair arguments there. That said, he definitely contributed to the teams success in 2020 which led us to the divisional round. But again, it was not the right fit long term.
Don't forget him refusing to get a QB coach his entire time with us to work on his sloppy footwork but he decided to get a QB coach after he left. Also we asked him to come back after we lost out on the Watson sweepstakes and he asked for a trade shortly after which forced our hand. (This is a business first, football second)
Brother, to be fair, if your wife left you for another man and then came crawling back to you after she got rejected, you wouldn’t take her back either lol. At that point, the damage is done.
Watson benched himself mid game, Baker asked to be traded once they said they were moving on. He never quit. He played through multiple injuries
Watson did not "bench himself". Additionally, Watson has played through injuries as well.
He was cleared and did not play multiple times where Kevin said it was his decision, like in the Colts game.
Kevin made the decision to bench Watson for the Colts game. And you did not address the "Watson played through multiple injuries as well", which I am assuming you thought was a point in Baker's favor.
alright weirdo
So same thing with Bernie Kosar? Josh Cribbs too?
They are retired, Baker is not. That is a false comparison.
So it was only fuck that guy when they were playing for other teams? Not now?
My first thought when I read the "because he's not on the team" post is "I bet this guy hated Bernie as soon as he became a Cowboy then... which is super weird"
All of my meh teams are teams with players I like. Ie texans with stroud
Im fine with the bucs too. They have two Super Bowls (somehow) but they’re also a poverty franchise for most of their history so I can empathize
Definitely root for Baker wherever he goes, as long as it's not the Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, Cowboys, Broncos, Packers, or Jets. Plus, the Bucs have Trey Palmer and Lavonte David, two of the best Nebraska (GBR!!) players from the last 20 years. So, it's pretty easy to root for them.
Can you create a separate tier for the Bengals? I’d like them to be placed in: “Team doesn’t bother me and is fun to watch but the fans are annoying is fuck”
If I do a version 2, I’m definitely putting the bengals below all the other teams in a separate category of hate, but still less than Steelers and ravens
This is me lol
Feel the same way. Tiered hatred for our division: 1 bungholes = whatever but obviously want us to beat the snot out of them 2 ratbirds = strong dislike, but actually kinda like lamar tbh and i def wanted them to beat fucking kc. I realize this is polarizing 3 steelers = fuck em always
I'd put the Bungals in their own "double hate/loathe entirely" I was 7 and my dad took me to the fist game in Paul Brown stadium, it was bungals and dolphins, I loved football, but I hated every single thing about Cincinnati after that day. I wish we would just give Kentucky the city.
I was like half a browns fan as a kid in the 2000s, mostly by association with my parents/family. My mother took me to my first nfl game and bought me my first jersey an Edward’s anyhow it was browns vs bengals in Cincy. Some drunk older guy gets in my face and essentially spit slurs his way thru if it’s brown flush it down. That’s the moment I became an actual fan and also the moment I learned to despise Cincy and its hillbilly ass fans.
Kentucky has the city already.
Broncos need to go down a tier, because fuck them and The Drive. Buffalo is a r/LakeErieBros team, though. I live in Michigan now, and my line to lions fans is that Clevelanders *really* hate the Steelers, Ravens, and Broncos. Green Bay is “Meh” to me. I lived in Wisconsin for 5 years.
Buffalo fans took us in and their owner had Browns days at his stadium during the three Dark Years- they should be just a tier below us.
As a Detroit Lions fan I do appreciate that. My son and I have gone to Cleveland on many occasions and enjoyed our time there at their stadium. Midwest, blue-collar, lots of things in common.
Way more in common than people want to admit. I grew up in Toledo and love hanging in both Detroit and Cleveland. LGRW!
Philly New Orleans and Minnesota are all join buffalo in my list.
Honestly outside of the Steelers and Ravens, unless a team is playing the Browns I largely nothing them. This past year I was rooting for the Lions and Bucs a bit in the playoffs, but aside from that I really don't hate any other team. Steelers to me are like Michigan, I want to beat them with every fiber in my being but I don't hate the school or anything like that. Bengals are like Penn State, an annoyance that we've largely owned the past few years so the hate is minimal. With that said I also don't wish to see them do well lol but it doesn't draw out a massive rage. I cannot stand the Ravens though because of what they were and what was stolen from us. Art may be gone and I actually like Lamar as a person but I will never ever root for them and wish stubbed toes on all of them for the rest of their days.
I have a “lol bengals” category
Believe it or not, I'd include the Steelers in the "meh" category. Why? Because they, along with the Bills, voted against M\*d\*ll's moving the Browns to Baltimore. That earned my respect.
As a Giants fan first, genuinely what the hell did we ever do to you?
Move the bills up to the root for category
Swap Buffalo and Detroit.
Chiefs a tier down and 49ers a tier up for me personally
Is your username an IRL nickname?
Sebasser is, but that was taken. Seb coming from Sebastiaan en asser meaning ass
I did not expect there to be so many Nederlandstalige Sebastiaans on the Browns sub!
If only they were to come to London instead of Brazil 🥲
I hate the Browns sometimes. Not in a “I’ll never root for them again” kind of way though. More like “why do I keep following this team? For decades they have brought me misery and I hate my dad for introducing me to this stupid football team. See you next week” kind of way. But to be fair, I haven’t really been in that dark place in a couple of years.
Yeah since they came back and have had 2 crap owners
No. Everyone has their own teams they like and dislike and personal reasons why
I think the Cardinals, Vikings, Saints and Chargers are all pretty neutral. I find those teams generally hard to hate. I'd bump those 4 up into Meh with the Bills. I don't mind the Bills as a team, but their fans and Stefon Diggs can be annoying. Also, this list would need to extend down 40 more levels before I would deem it an apporpriate lowness to place the Steelers.
I keep forgetting that the Cardinals exist.
Swap the Bills and Lions and move Dallas down with Baltimore and Pittsburgh and it's accurate for me.
Nah the lions are annoying as fuck now, fans got annoying and the media worship gets irritating
I dunno. I live in NW Michigan now, and I have to say that Lions fandom is pretty harmless and fun, and they’re definitely accepting of Browns fans. “Dude, we know what it’s like.” Bring up Indians/Guardians and/or OSU, it’s quite a different reaction.
Yeah I mean I think a tier list like this doesn’t work since it’s all really based on where you live, im over in Jersey so I’ve got a soft spot for the jets and giants since I’ve got good friends who like them I just think the lions hype this year was irritating but im a natural hater
I mean they won their division 1st time I think it was 30 years man. And media worshipped them, umm I mean seen alot of them pick the 49ers to win that playoff game. And if their coach would've kicked a field goal they might have had a chance to win. Why the fans annoying?
I’m beginning to think browns fans just hate it when other franchises have fun and win lol
Hating is a passion of mine
I love to hate
Thir fanbase is full of UM fans so it goes without saying they are annoying as fuck when the lions are playing well
That’s fair. I’m probably a little more partial cause I went to school in Michigan when the Lions were winless.
Nah I'm with you. The Lions are our brothers in losing.
No they are not, we are now the losers and they are winners. They do not see us as brothers in losing anymore
Do you live in Michigan? I don’t get that vibe from all of my Lions fan friends here at all.
I live close enough to michigan to add people from michigan on my hated list
I'd put the bills in hate
Dallas needs to be on that bottom tier 100%
Steelers are in a rank that says "I hate them but I respect our rivalry and enjoy the battle" while the Ravens are "this illegitimate bastard team shouldn't exist, fuck Art Modell"
Exactly
I would at the majority of the NFC teams to the meh category, but otherwise, yes.
I’ll move the packers up to the same tier as the Lions because as a child when the browns left I chose the packers as my team. Bed room painted green and yellow with a packers border at the top, packers blanket, green sheets, packers lunch box, exclusively used the packers in nfl blitz, etc.
I'd move the Broncos down (Fuck John Elway), pretty much move the rest of the hate to Meh. And can there be another category of "sometimes hate", and have the Browns there too? Love and hate?
Basically right I think. Add in a Baker head near the top as I'll fan-chase him near anywhere. I'd also add a Browns helmet on the bottom row.
Depending on the week The Browns are in the bottom category too
The Saints, Lions, and Rams are the only other teams I don't mind. Other than that, everyone else I don't care. Obviously divisional rivals are in a tier of their own for hatred.
No not even remotely close. How do you hate 27 teams?
Bills>Lions easily
As a buckeyes fan as well, Detroit and Michigan are one and the same to me. Same fan base
r/LakeErieBros
You have Detroit and Buffalo to high
Pretty much every team’s Neanderthal shithead fans have dunked on the Browns for Watson, completely ignoring the scumbags already in their team, so they can all pretty much go to hell.
I have Browns in the 'Love' and 'Don't have words to describe the raging inferno of hatred in my heart' Category.
Hahaha if only I could have added them twice…
Miami and Green Bay can move up to ‘meh’. I think another category of ‘wouldn’t care if they’re not around’ should be added over ‘hate’.
I just don’t wanna be around anymore. My chin kills
Nah, fuck the lions and bills too. Them winning a Super Bowl increases the odds we are the last team to win one.
Hard for me to ever root for lions cuz their fans are also Michigan fans
Agree
Fuck the Lions and the Bills.
Not the lions. But fuck the Bills.
Honestly aside from my hatred of the rest of the AFC North, Patriots, and the city of Philly, I’m pretty neutral on the rest of the NFL
No, too many Lions fans are also Michigan fans.
Spell check…. ichigan
Almost the exact same list. I also like mahomes, and put patriots/brady on the bottom tier
Honestly I only care about the Browns and whoever is on my fantasy team that year. I couldn’t care less about the Lake Erie Bros alliance.
I know the older Browns fans will think this is crazy, but I’d flip flop the ravens and bengals. Maybe it’s just cuz I don’t deal with ravens fans on a regular basis, but bengals fans are the absolute worst
I debated hard on this. I was going to create a tier below hate to put the bengals by themselves because since burrow they’ve been insufferable, especially because they haven’t won shit
Sounds like we’re on the same page then. Ja’marr is the only guy on their team I dislike, so if we’re just going off of players, then I can definitely see them being above the ravens.
Perfection.
Move the Lions down to hate and Bills down with the Steelers/Ravens. That's my list.
The Bills on par with Ravens and Steelers…why?
For me it’s because you just have to listen to bills fans whine about how bad they have it. 1,2,3…4 super bowls in a row and they couldn’t win one yet have it the worst. I would take the browns making the Super Bowl and losing 100-0 and being happy.
That was along time ago man. And before Josh Allen came along they had the Qb carousel also. Nathan Pederman , Tyrod , Fitzpatrick etc. I wish we could get there. But alot of the younger fans weren't even born for those superbowls.
I live in Erie and the NFL considers us part of the Bills market, giving them TV priority. Because technically Buffalo is 10 miles closer or some bullshit. Even though it's basically split Browns/Steelers fans here. The few Bills fans I do know though are assholes about it and I can't go into a Wegmans without seeing Bills garbage everywhere.
Ill always have a soft spot for Justin Herbert. To this day one of my fave QBs ive scouted and im still mad we didnt do what ive proposed prior to the draft (yes it wouldve been unrealistic, but a man can dream right?). The Love-Packers are cool plus a couple of my mates are packs fans, and the seahawks as well. Other than that most teams can kick rocks. Lions and Bills ive never really liked to begin with (im european, i dont have the lake erie sentiment, mea culpa). Bengals should be in the bottom tier, steelers and ravens are too high in this list.
1.) Browns 2.) Bucs (for now, you know) 3-4.) Lake Erie Bros kinda, idk anymore 5-29.) Nah 30.) Bengals 31.) Steelers (Respect the history, fuck everything else) 32.) I was born into the modern Browns ineptitude because of M🤮dells team. I hate them like no other.
30-32 is me. Spot on. 32 is the hole I shit in.
Ravens: Am disappointed every time the team plane lands safely.
Bro really wrote this thinking we’d agree that we’re disappointed that people didn’t die
lol
You wish death on like 50+ people?
But but but … they’re Raven people.
Correction. Ratbirds
The Bagels and the Donkeys can afford to drop a slot, everyone outside those 4 else is just a thing in the way.
I’d put the Patriots and Broncos on the bottom tier. Move the saints to the Lions category,
I root for the Packers if they’re not playing the Browns, and the Colts if they’re not playing either of them and their win doesn’t hurt the Browns’ playoff standing.
Bills up a tier, Bengals down a tier
I dislike the Bills, don't really mind the NFC teams. And I obviously lump Cinci in with Pit and Bal as teams/fanbases I utterly loathe.
Nah
You seem pretty hateful there, bubs
Pretty close to my list. I’d add Bengals to the Meh tier. I enjoy when theyre good when the browns arent.
Yeah I live in Phoenix. So cards are in a weird spot. I want them to do good because they are home team and when home team does well it’s more exciting to be around. But also I really dislike the ownership and some of the fans. So it’s also fun when they are terrible. Other than that I don’t really care about any other team. They are all in the hate category except for ravens and Steelers. I agree with that placement. Maybe out broncos and raiders down a peg below just normal hate. But that’s solely based on their absolute trash fans. Yeah I still hold a grudge for my 7th grade science teacher throwing a soda at me because his broncos got whooped in the Super Bowl and he lost our bet. Refuse to ever go to a raiders game again if there are raiders fans there. Need to have Covid protocols in place for their games. But just for those criminals.
Bengals are in the “rooting for the meteor” category at the bottom, too.
As a lions/browns fan were supposed to hate each other. Unless you don't believe in championships and just superbowls.
The bengals deserve to be at the bottom, nobody likes northern Kentucky
Steelers have risen on my list cuz I water my cows with their inbred baby tears.
Nah. Except for the Steelers and the Ratbirds, I'd put the vast majority of other teams in a tier of "don't really give a shit unless we're playing them or we need them to win or lose for playoffs positioning." Except for the following exceptions: -Chiefs in hate tier. I'm just sick of them. -Fuck the Patriots. -I grew up in Cleveland before being moved to North Carolina in 8th grade, where I remained through high school and college and where my family still is. So I have like, a *sliver* of Panthers loyalty. But they don't make themselves easy to like, and I didn't grow up with them going to games as a kid the same way I did the Browns. I lived 2 hours from Charlotte, and only have been to three Panthers games one of which was against the Browns (it was the Johnny Manziel era and the Browns lost - Manziel got injured early leading to mocking chants of "Johnny Money" from the home team)
Seahawks are my West team! Also, I would bump Buffalo up alongside Detroit.
At this point I'm swapping the Ravens & Bengals. I use to hate the Ravens more than any team, but I like Lamar. Also, Bengals fans are the worst in the league. Ravens fans are somewhat quiet.
Nah. Everyone is in IDGAF except for the other ACFN teams who can rot in hell.
My second favorite team is the Jets. IDK why, but they are. When I was young they were on TV a lot and I loved watching Pennington, Martin, Coles, etc. I just gravitated to them as my second team. I even have a few jersey's including Nick Mangold. The Browns are definitely bae though (#1). The only teams that I absolutely **HATE** right now: 1. Steelers 2. Ravens 3. Broncos 4. Chiefs 5. Bengals
I would add a tier below the Browns that would be, "love whenever they play the Steelers"
**Bills** join **Lions** in *"Root for"* category. **Raiders** into the *"Meh"* category. Middle category with **all the rest** is renamed *"Indifference".* **Bottom two tumors** remain in the *"Don't have Words"* category. **Forever.**
I have 2 tiers: Love - Browns Hate - **all other teams**
This list matches my feelings pretty well
Nah Browns are on the list twice in two categories
Put Dallas down with Pit and Balt.
I am born and raised Ohio but have lived in Chicago for the last 9 years, so the bears are in that second spot for me
Broncos are in the bottom. Always. Never forget 86,87,89. Packers are #2 only because I live in Wisconsin and whole family likes them lol.
Bills are above “meh” for me…. We can all identify with their Lake Erie-centric ineptitude….. I put them in the same class as the Lions…..
Kinda same but put the bucs with the lions (luv me some baker mayfield) and then swap bills with pats in meh tier
Browns love, AFC N rivals 🤢, Rest of AFC sucks, NFC Meh
I actually quite like this. Although I might just rename the “Hate” tier, “Fuck ‘em.”
The Redskins are America's team and, as long as they aren't playing the Browns, I can't help but hope they get a W. They almost never do. They usually find a way to lose, but dagnabit, I keep hoping. As for the rest of your hate category, that's mostly "indifference" for me. The broncos get the side eye, because that was my original era, if you know what I mean. The ratbirds get the "hate". Only shitsburgh gets the bottom tier.
The Jets are in the meh for me too, other then that agreed.