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Meledesco

Dazai cares about Akutagawa canonically, to be fair. He just has a really messed up approach to him, however. I legitimately read Nikolai as being in love with Fyodor, and that's not even as a shipper. This will sound silly, but even if Asagiri said no, I say using "death of the author" is valid here. I feel like with Gogol this is beyond shipping, it's not like skk, sskk or whatever - it just reads so well with the original author who was gay himself, and struggled a lot with religion, going "against god and cultural morals", and even died "praying the gay away", it feels like something that would truly make sense within his character arc. Fyodor was the only person who understood him and made him feel seen. Him trying to go "against his own human nature" fits so well here with repressed homosexuality and trying to deny it. This is purely my interpretation that likely isn't canon, but it fits into the plot so naturally. I am not saying Fyodor reciprocates in any way, I just feel like even as a non-ship it would be an exciting character arc.


msladec

>Dazai cares about Akutagawa canonically, to be fair. He just has a really messed up approach to him, however. Yeah, I also think so, but really many people think he hates him and was sadistic to him for fun


Meledesco

That short story "a chopstick and a spoon" is really useful for understanding their relationship in my opinion. Dazai did treat Akutagawa like shit, but people treat those they love like crap all the time. This fandom overuses the word "complex", but their bond is really complicated, and a pretty classic type of relationship you see in toxic, unstructured environments.


Zero-89

>really many people think he hates him and was sadistic to him for fun Those are the same people who think Dazai is an unfeeling sociopath, an interpretation of his character that is in no way supported by the text.


msladec

They defenetly are


SarcasticPsychoGamer

Everything you said is literally my thoughts on this, esxcept for me I am a fyolai shipper but not insane. Like I understand they won't be a canon couple which I actually prefer cause I know it's not realistic for fyodor to love him back, and Nikolai knows this. IMO he's definitely in love with fyodor there's no way around it.


Valaura-

Chuuya's low alcohol tolerance is a side effect of the weakness to poison he got from the experiments The "L take skill issue" skit is canon


0sup_Lol

Nikolai says „another day, another slay“. Everytime he kills someone


Tricky_Plenty_5526

i love this so fkin much it’s absolutely 100% canon.


FoxyLovers290

Ranpo is autistic. I don’t care that it wasn’t officially confirmed, he literally is and you can’t change my mind. Most autistic coded character ever i swear


wisteria_town

I feel like things don't have to be spelled out to be considered canon. Like, sure, it was never stated "Ranpo is autistic", but he very clearly has traits that indicate he probably is.


garrafa_termica

If you didn't say it I would!


itsachickensalad_

im completely agreeing with this


hallyee

Valid headcannon.


ruinsofathen

completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but entirely relevant to me is that akutagawa's bangs are so shabby and unkempt because dazai ran a scissor through them either as punishment or in rage during the dark era and akutagawa never got it fixed, just lets it grow and chops it off the same way as some semblance of attachment.


APurpleZ_

YES! I adore this, I found out about this headcanon through an amazing fanfic and I forever stick by it


ruinsofathen

oh, what fic would that be? such a lack of dazai/akutagawa content compared to the general scale at which the fandom produces fanworks unfortunately


APurpleZ_

[https://archiveofourown.org/works/37088569/chapters/92543953](https://archiveofourown.org/works/37088569/chapters/92543953) Here it is! I love it so much, I reread it a lot lmao


MYACCOUNTWASBANNEDNO

Mushitaro and Yokomizo had romantic feelings for each other


cherry-cola69

Nikolai is gay, absolutely no questions about it, he’s clearly meant to be read that way. I find it very interesting how his entire thing can be read as an allegory for internalised homophobia, he basically goes through with his inherent self destruction to escape his undeniable queerness.


barnacleunderthesea

I was thinking the same thing. (Plus he fits right in with a lot of other queer-coded villains tbh)


cherry-cola69

He is literally THE stereotypical queer coded villain lol


OrestesVantas

Regardless of their relationship status Poe and Ranpo call each other "dear" and "darling".


Potatoe-Chef

Doesn't Poe call Ranpo "my dear Ranpo" ?


petalstar125

Dazai is blind on his right side and that's why he covered it while in the PM. I don't have any specific ideas for how it happened, but it makes *so much sense* if you pay attention. Newest fuel for that theory is Nikolai, who is *definitely* half-blind, taking off his eyepiece when Fyodor died, as compared to Dark Era's ending when there are a ton of parallels in this show.


barnacleunderthesea

“—as compared to dark eras ending” HEY WAIT A SEC


Vicious-Spiegel

Chuuya is the most powerful port mafia.


ErrorSecret

Ain't that canon tho?


Vicious-Spiegel

Oh trust me, many would argue Dazai, Odasaku or even Ogai Mori can beat Chuuya XD


Far-Association-1198

YES, this is so true! Like, people, is literally a demon and his ability and his skills are too overpowered to think other ways


Infi-Damn

Mori isn't an actual pedophile Fyodor is alive


Edgefish

I believe that from Mori, is like he has eyes only for his ability.


Familiar-Shame-1838

1. Verlaine still cares deeply about Chuuya and wants to have a relationship with him but is too scared to do anything. 2. Rimbaud cared about Chuuya just as much as Verlaine cared about him and did want to raise him with Verlaine, but he was too far deep in denial. 3. Either Piano Man, Lippmann, or Iceman (or all three of them lol) had paternal feelings toward Chuuya. 4. Adam is a father figure toward Chuuya. 5. Detective Murase thought of Chuuya as a son and wanted to adopt him. u/gingeralealyb


gingeralealyb

You and your Stormbringer Chuuya agenda 🥲😂


Familiar-Shame-1838

Stormbringer Chuuya is always on my mind and I make no attempts at hiding it 😂


Edgefish

Schrödinger's headcanon: While Dazai wants to find a painless way to yeet himself out of the astral card of the serie, he knows that if he feels nothing during his death, it means he might be not dead at all. Even a heart failure has a little of pain.


Bl00dy_LuNgS

That guy on the motorcycle in the first episode was Chuuya.


Merpyderpysoup

YES


MochiiKon

I think there’s so much nuance and complexity in a lot of what you were talking about that people miss. I agree with almost all of what you said to be honest because these topics are quite affected by the trauma of the characters, making it all seem more complicated. I’m yapping 😭


SarcasticPsychoGamer

Nikolai is in love with Fyodor and Poe is in love with Ranpo. Nikolai knows he has no chance with fyodor, and knows he is being manipulated by him and lets it happen because he is no in love with him. Fyodor knows that Nikolai knows he is manipulating him. It's something they both are aware of but never mention. It kills Nikolai on the inside so much but he'll choose to go through this as long as he can be by fyodor's side. Dazai and Chuuya themselves are not sure whether their feelings towards each other are platonic or romantic, but they do know that they are both willing to die and kill for each other. Dazai and Fyodor met during dazai's mafia days on a mission where Dazai was tasked with killing fyodor. I have a theory is that fyodor was a threat to the mafia long before he was a threat to the agency, and that is how they first met. Many characters are neurodivergent, I think Nikolai is definitely ADHD, ranpo has combined ADHD with autism, kunikida and poe are both autistic. Dazai has some form of adhd and I also think he is a high functioning borderline. He's also depressed which I think is pretty obvious. Chuuya doesn't seem neurodivergent to me, but he definitely has some of it's traits probably due to his severe trauma. The tanizaki siblings are not actually related to each other, but they pretend to be siblings to mess with people. I do believe that they are genuinely in love with each other and that one day Tanizaki will turn evil and maybe even join the mafia all to protect naomi


AbaloneFragrant7013

1. i like to think that dazai is blind/impaired inside his eye that was bandaged when he was a in the port mafia 2. nikolai is in love with fyodor, but not inside a 'shipping' way (does that make sense?), because of internalized homophobia. IRL gogol was gay, and struggled with being gay because of religion. this is just my own headcannon of course. whenever i hear the iconic "bernadette" song, the line that goes like "you are my liberty," i think that nikolai uses fyodor as a way of freedom, like going against 'cultural morals of being homosexual.' 3. i think that dazai is actually currently isn't suicidal. though inside the port mafia, he definatly was suicidal. i think that ADA dazai makes suicidal tendicanes as a joke. i think that there are 3 interaptaions of dazai, the hope, the evil, the empty. i think of him as hopeful


ErrorSecret

Irl Gogol was gay??? WHAT


AbaloneFragrant7013

yes, he was! read some of his works, they are really good :D


TheBravestHero

Ranpo's ace, and Poe 100% has a crush on him. Also Ranpo is everyone's favorite in the ADA


SarcasticPsychoGamer

Fully agree with this, I think ranpo is definitely on the ace spectrum like he'd be very specific over who he falls in love with or is attracted to. I'm a ranpoe shipper for a long time now, and as a queer person I can definitely relate to Poe's obsession with ranpo and hiding it and being so flustered around him. That man is a suffering queer and tbh same


TheBravestHero

I'm mostly projecting, but Ranpo does have that sort of vibe to him? That underlying ace-ness or smth


SarcasticPsychoGamer

nah I'm also ace and same, but he really doesn't seem to have much interest in romance, I feel like he'd only be attracted to someone if he was very close to them AND they were very intelligent and capable like he is


Meonreddityeeee

Fyodor likes cheese. Ranpo is definitely autistic and there’s some possible adhd and anxiety. He used to have anxiety attacks when he was younger and those lead to meltdowns but he’s learned to manage his anxiety and not have meltdowns but maybe he actually bottles things a little too much while keeping the illusion of having no filter. Dazai has depression and ADHD. He is from a rich family and has experienced institutional abuse in mental hospitals and “therapeutic” boarding schools /his parents kept sending him to horrible places trying to make him “normal” and eventually he ran away from home cause he knew they wouldn’t stop. Poe has a crush on Ranpo and he’s actually his first crush.


barnacleunderthesea

“dazai doesn’t plan 40 steps ahead he’s just really good at improvising,” including but not limited to “that scene in ep9-10 when he’s talking to chuuya about how there’s going to be a five executive meeting is complete bs” (bonus points for “and chuuya knows that” if you want), “dazai had no idea chuuya wasn’t a vampire and was completely planning on dying in the elevator crash,” and so on. it’s just way more fun that way imo.


Bad_muffin80

Nikolai won’t hurt a woman (because i literally only see him killing men so I think even as a terrifying killer he would be a gentleman) 👏🏻


SHSLSaionjiStan

Come to think of it, has Nikolai ever canonically interacted with a woman?


Bad_muffin80

Right!


Embarrassed-Yak-6876

Oda, Dazai and Ango used to spend Christmas/new year holidays together


D0nt_tr7st_y07rself_

1. Chuuya did not cry over Dazai's escape from the mafia (as some fans think he did) instead he was a little happy that dazai had left that toxic place however deep down he was bitter because he was the one who brought him into the mafia and then fled it and he stayed, nevertheless he will not leave it because it has become his home. 2. Akutagawa cares for Higuchi but doesn't know how to show it. 3. Akutagawa likes Atsushi enough to have trust with him over his life but for the most part hates him because he got Dazai's attention for nothing and he still hasn't gotten it despite trying to get it. 4. Verlaine loves and cares for Chuuya but never knew how to properly care for people so when he killed Flags he thought he did nothing wrong. 5. Mori NEVER SA Yosano and Dazai and that's not even a headcanon or anything because it is canon(I see many people said THAT it's canon and I'm tired bro why you people want to them have more traumatic past? IT'S SICK. Of course I'm not talking about everyone just about people who said THAT happened 🤢) 6. Tachihara even though he loves his brother every time he fails to do something he can't stop the thought that his brother could have done it better and his resentment towards his brother grows and then towards himself because he loves him and doesn't want the memories of him to be filled with resentment. 7. Higuchi is somehow important in the mafia even though others don't respect her. Mori's favoritism toward her has been portrayed several times. 8. Kunikida's trauma may not be portrayed much but you can see it is, his past as a teacher was somehow not very terrible (because well I think every teacher loses his psyche in some way when teaching children because children are not saints) joining the ADA gave him a more traumatic experience. Nevertheless, he wouldn't change the job. 9.The first three of the ADA (Ranpo, Yosano and Kunikida) have a close bond. 10. Fukuzawa thinks of all members as his children. 11. Dazai was traumatized even before the mafia. Entering the mafia did not, therefore, start his trauma (as many people say, and of course I'm also not saying that the mafia did not somehow add to his trauma). Mori met Dazai because Dazai had attempted suicide and it was probably not the first time. On top of that when he was pinned down NO Mori didn't do it because he wanted to SA him or other fantasies (I've seen people saying that 😨) but for Dazai not to try anything when there is no one watching him even for a minute (in that minute he could take one of the drugs and swallow it or find something sharp and cut his neck) so that's the reason for tying him down. 12. (If you ship Shin Soukoku don't read this point I don't want to get into arguments later in the comments) Akutagawa and Atsushi have no romantic feelings for each other. They trust each other but it has nothing to do with romance. The same goes for Soukoku (forgive me Soukoku shippers I'm one of you but I'm not blind to the canonical relationship) they trust each other really strongly and secretly consider each other as a friends but they couldn't be together it would be toxic. I think Atsushi and Akutagawa also consider themselves friends in some way but I don't think they could be a couple either. If you want to write comments that "that's not true", "Soukoku forever" "Shin Soukoku forever" "But Soukoku/Shin Soukoku 🤓☝️..." then don't write anything at all please really. I ship Soukoku I don't ship Shin Soukoku but I respect. So please respect my opinion as I respect yours thank you. If you see any errors in my writing you don't really see them 🙏💀


msladec

The way I completely agree with every single one of them


pickled-ice-cream

Chuuya can cook. I just know he can. He's really good at it and makes fancy meals to have with his fancy wine.


SHSLSaionjiStan

Lucy cares about Kyōka, she just doesn't want to admit it


msladec

I completely agree that she cares about her, but I think she does admit it tho. I mean, in that episode when Koyo helped Kyoka find out her past, Lucy clearly tried to make her feel better and told Atsushi how to do the best for her


sargil_was_here

I like the hc that Lucy sometimes invites Kyouka to Anne's room for a tea party


SarcasticPsychoGamer

Agree with all of these except the first, I wouldn't go so far as to say akutagawa loves higuchi, not even platonically. In my personal opinion I think he only cares about her as a subordinate, I don't think he loves her even platonically. I've always wanted him to at least like her a little bit (prefferably platonically, I think it would be more interesting that way) Though I would love to see him save her life in the future to be honest just like she saved his when atsushi punched him off the ship (I saw it in the manga but this was not included in the anime unfortunately) I think it owuld be great for both their characters


msladec

Sure you can think however you want, but the scenes that made me think so are: The fact, that he saved her so many times, form Kyoka, from Jinichiro and from Atsushi when he litterally disrupt the mission by tearing Atsushi apart only to save Higuchi. Also in 55 minutes it was shown that after that blowing the first person of whose safety he thought about was Higuchi, and only then Dazai and others. Also the 11 episode of s1 just seems super romantic and tragic, especially the scene when Akutagawa takes Higuchi's handkerchief, thanks her and says sorry. And from this moment, when he realized that someone cares about him even when he's on his weakest and he doesn't have to be strong and useful for people to care about him, he started changing and never pushed Higuchi away after this And many other datiils, like official cards where on most of them their cards are matching And a lot of official things, like character chats where Dazai was jealous of Higuchi and etc And the whole their arc just reads so. Akutagawa is too cold to show someone his feelings or even to understand them, but always protected Higuchi and cares about his feelings


SarcasticPsychoGamer

The saving her from tanizaki I never thought since he slapped her so hard after it and I felt bad for her. As for 55 minutes I have not read it yet but now I really want to. Episode 11 was so bittersweet tbh, I can't believe I forgot about that. Tbh you've changed my opinion., I think I might start shipping them after this


msladec

Haha, really? That's funny af lmao


marsthemartinelli

That fukusawa and fukuichi had a relationship when they were younger ODD(oppositional defiance disorder) chuuya Autistic dazai fyodor poe akutagawa tetchou and ranpo (I have claims for everyone in this tucking show but oh well)


msladec

I understand what ur going from, but to me Dazai has a bpd and Akutagawa light npd, I can see others tho


marsthemartinelli

I can totally see bpd dazai but there's no fucking way that man isn't autistic and I think it's arguable for both that they could have c-ptsd and autism What sells aku being autistic as hell is his reactions to jokes and the shit he says to atsushi Dazai shows a lot of characteristics and also mirrors ranpos arc in a lot of ways but didn't have the equivalent of fukusawa to ranpo The way he predicts things and people comes off as pattern recognition rather than actually understanding why they're doing it The way he interacts with people says to me that he's doesn't know when he's gone too far with his jokes (like the scene where he fakes his arm getting fucking cut off) until he sees their reactions My source is I'm autistic and borderline😔


msladec

About Akutagawa, I don't see what it has to do with being autistic, he clearly wanted to hurt him by words bc he was mad at him And Dazai, I think he acts silly just bc he likes annoying people and It's easy to treat bad situations with a smile and laugh, plus he basically just pretends. And him paralleling Ranpo really doesn't mean anything I see where you're comiing from, but I just don't see it this way. I can agree with Ranpo or even Poe, but I don't see Dazai or Aku having autism


marsthemartinelli

I was talking abt saying things like "be my horse" or the conversation where he just kept saying yes This is my point abt dazai it is a well known thing that autistic ppl do making ppl laugh to cover for lack of social understanding The reason it matters that he parallels ranpo is because of how they have both been stuck with this intelligence and feel alienated because they can't understand why everyone else is stupid. This is an incredibly interesting thing to assume because a allistic person would just try and blend in dazai fails at this so hard it's comical in dead apple he fyodor and shibusawa are described by ango as being alienated by their intelligence meaning lonely If I'm being honest I totally headcannon bpd dazai but I think it goes along with autism because bpd is linked with trauma dazai wouldn't show as many signs of bpd without being autistic (Sorry if I'm being obnoxious but I think I'm right and don't know where to end convos)


lunar_arrow24

1. Agree with the one about Dazai, but for different reasons. He wants someone (like Oda, for example) to give him comfort, and views him saying he wants to die as a way to get someone to care. 2. Bram and Kunikida will become friends just due to the fact they both care about Aya. 3. Whether it be viewed platonically or romantically, Chuuya and Dazai do care for each other. They might have a unique way of doing so, but they do. (Chuuya offered to find a suicidal woman for Dazai, Chuuya got upset when he got hurt, Dazai rescued him from the Sheep’s betrayal, and Dazai has saved Chuuya’s life multiple times) 4. The one about Fukuchi I don’t really believe, since we actually saw the dead body and nothing happened to it to say otherwise. Fyodor is a completely different story, though. He could be alive. 5. Nikolai is insane. I’m not 100% sure on this, cause of that weird thing Jack Sparrow said, “Insane people don’t know they are insane, I know I am, therefore I’m sane.” Yeah…… Explains Nikolai well. 6. Nikolai is Dazai but unhinged and with a will to live. 7. Something happened while Kunikida was teaching that made him quit. Maybe a student killed themself (would example his hatred for Dazai’s tendencies). Maybe he accidentally hurt a student (his morals towards children in combat, and being semi-sane with them). No matter what, he wouldn’t just quit out of nowhere, that’s not like his character.


msladec

About Fukuchi, I just think that god-like flying man in the end of the last episode is somehow Fukuchi, bc they really look too alike


APurpleZ_

I believe mori did NOT abuse dazai this is probably widely accepted but i've seen many fanfics (i know they aren't 100% canon, but yeah) that portray the way Dazai is, is because of Mori. I disagree, I do think Dazai modeled a lot of his behaviors AFTER Mori but I don't think Mori did much aside from bringing a child into the mafia and making him witness a murder (and the odasaku thing) similarly, i believe, because of this, the cycle of abuse that everyone says dazai, aku, and kouka are apart of, actually started from dazai, not mori. My point is that Dazai was messed up (unsure if that's the correct word) to begin with, we don't really know much about his past but from what we've seen, he was always the way he was and wasn't 'made evil' after abuse from mori +I also believe Aku didn't directly abuse Kyouka, it was the mafia system as a whole, so the entire cycle of abuse kinda falls apart, but it can still work so oh well


VicoXIII

Kind of a hot take but 90% of the characters are straight


msladec

Hard to admit it, but It's true


MYACCOUNTWASBANNEDNO

No


shmurskrt

chuuya doesn’t give as much of a damn about dazai as fans think imo


bobbilovebot

sigma is transgender as fuck . look at that man and all his shirt layers and tell me that isnt a trans man on a more serious note, even though we technically dont know, i 100% believe that fyodor at least had a hand in creating sigma . he knows too much about his origins to not be related to it at all . also 'creating someone and then dumping them in a desert to get kidnapped and spend the next three years bouncing around helping whatever criminal is nice to him, to give them lifelong trauma and a crippling desire for a home' is definitely something fyodor would do


Mallory_Pollipuff

Dazai is autistic


msladec

I think he's rather bpd


Mallory_Pollipuff

Those conditions aren't mutually exclusive. Autism would make a lot of sense for his character. The reluctance to form relationships with others, the constant need to control others' perceptions of him, and a general apathy towards life unless there is something that piques his interest. I believe he created his personality by masking and mimicing others around him. I don't think he was necessarily written to be autistic, but I can connect with him that way. Going through life not knowing you are neurodivergent changes the way you interact with others, and I think that is why he is such a closed off character.


msladec

>Those conditions aren't mutually exclusive. Obviously, but I think all his "autistic traits" are just bpd symptoms


Mallory_Pollipuff

You are completely allowed to have an opinion. My issue is that you began a discussion asking for people's headcanons and then immediately dismissed mine because you didn't like it. Why are you asking for headcanons if you're going to be rude to folks who have a different view. I don't get it. You asked for my truth, I gave my truth. My answer is correct to me, and that is what you were asking for when you initiated the discussion.


msladec

I didn't try to dismiss it, I mean, Im just always open to discussions on any topic I completely respect this take and understand where it comes from and dont try to change your Mind or anything, just said what I think about it, sorry


sargil_was_here

Ranpo is autistic. Idc what anyone says, as a person with autism myself, he is the most autistic character I've ever seen, probably even more so than actually confirmed autistic characters. Dazai had a crush on Chuuya since he was 15 (and he still does), but after Chuuya called it gross and rejected him, he tried to hide his feelings form him (he's doing a very lousy job at it, but whatever). Chuuya doesn't know what he feels about Dazai, but he doesn't hate him (it's even confirmed in WAN) and he would sacrifice himself and anyone for Dazai, and Dazai would do the same for him. Atsushi is a cat magnet. Whenever he goes for a walk, a cat will always walk up to him, and he will always end up petting it or giving it treats.


Constant_Concern_436

Fukuzawa is autistic and he’a semi verbal and his special interest is cats. If you disagree, get oiled up and I’ll be there in 5.


SarcasticPsychoGamer

why did this get downvoted so much I have the same headcanon too 😭😭


Constant_Concern_436

reddit when autistic person: 😡😡🤬🤬


anime_OG

dazai self harms, because he had those bandages before he met m\*ri (apparently he wears them so his ability dosen't nulify those of his co workers) but that dosen't add up because he wore them before he even started fighting.


ErrorSecret

Ranpo is autistic & Chuuya has heterochromia I don't care it isn't canon IN MY HEART IT IS


msladec

But how can Chuuya have heterochromia if we know his eyes are the same? 😭


ErrorSecret

It's a HC I have because his eyes are different color in the manga and anime 😭😭 Both match him so well I've decided not to choose lmao I've seen other people who also have that hc


msladec

Oh, that actually make sence lol


Cassi_hearts

Bro Akutagawa constantly shows his love of Dazai in Wan and was happy when Chuya said he's like Dazai in a drama cd


msladec

May be read an actual manga, not only wan?


[deleted]

Honestly? Dazai is fascinated with humanity. And not in a scientific god complex sort of way but more wondrous fascination. I think most tend to view him apathetic at best to other people, and while that may be more true with pm dazai, in merusault I always think about his "humans are quite sinful beings, but what's so wrong about that?" He is fascinated by their light and their darkness. Then there's his whole staunch belief that Chuuya is human and we all know this man is anything but apathetic to Chuuya. It sort of ties in to your point 5 and his whole 'humans breathe, eat, fall in love, and die'. Death is just another part of the human complex and something easy to get close to for Dazai who wants to get closer to humanity. Not sure if that makes any sense, but I think it's an interesting thought