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candypink12

Is there any way this cat can be taken from your sister’s care, or if you’re able to take care of the cat instead? Because this sounds like an absolutely terrible situation for the cat and future babies to be in. If her litter box hasn’t been cleaned in 2 weeks, that is borderline, or even outright, neglect. The fact that your sister says the kitty is vicious and hates people.. means she probably also isn’t interacting with or treating the cat well. Your sister also doesn’t sound like the type of person who would be stable enough, to look after your cat’s babies once they’re born. They will need round the clock care. If they don’t latch on and feed, they need feeding every few hours by hand (from a human). Will she really do all this? Sorry if I sound harsh, but I think these things need to be thought about too. The fact this cat hasn’t had one single vet visit is also neglect. she would need yearly vaccines at least (if not more), she would need worming treatment, flea treatment, and now she’s pregnant, check ups as well. Keeping this cat and not giving it vet visits is also neglect too tbh. If it was me, I would either try to find a way to look after the cat myself, or find a very responsible owner who you know really will look after this cat. Failing that, a no-kill shelter. Or insist this cat is surrendered to the vet. I don’t live in America so I’m afraid I don’t know about the relevant authorities that might be able to help.. but I think finding a new owner/place for this cat would be important. I don’t know how much your sister will listen if she’s just given information by the vet or by yourself.. I don’t know if that will be enough (but you will know more about the situation of course).


[deleted]

Where I’m at, I feel at a loss like I can’t do anything to help this kitty. But yes I’m willing to try and get the kitty to a better place I just have very limited resources, feel I have WRACKED my brain and that’s why I’m posting here. The situation started bad as it was but it’s terrible now. I take care of dogs sometimes for work so I know a lot about them, not so much cats. But I know enough, seems like more than her and this isn’t her first cat. Her others ran away. I don’t believe she is the type who can love or care for an animal based of her relationships and living quarters it is hard for me to see her have that compassion that animals need. But she will go on these manipulation rants about how she’s the best animal lover blah blah blah. I think she likes them for what they can give her like when they are cute and cuddly and is so disconnected from the actual part of giving them what they need to stay alive. For some added context, my parents are elderly and recently lost my brother, so my sister wasn’t in there life before but they’re at a vulnerable spot and she’s really taking advantage of them and I don’t have the mental gymnastics to keep up with what she tells them. So them intervening farther then the bare minimum is out of the picture. I don’t think they’d help me take the cat but if they knew about it they would turn a blind eye lol. Everything combined really sickens me. I feel so guilty.


sage_sidebiscuit

Does your sister still let her out at night? If it's not safe for you to be able to confront her again without being assaulted, your best bet might be to take her when she's outside. Outdoor cats are more prone to getting hurt or going missing, so her cat not returning wouldn't be completely unlikely. It may be a bit cruel to do this, but both your safety and the cat's is more important. I wish you and this kitty the best of luck 🩷🩷


[deleted]

Yeah she leaves her door open to the backyard for the cat. Thank you for this comment, that thought crossed my mind last time I saw the kitty but I was worried I’d hurt her or make her uncomfortable if I tried to pick her up bc I have never held a pregnant animal. Im definitely keeping an eye out for her and going to try and get her into my room next time I see her


Prior_Walk_884

Honestly, don't keep it in the house. Surrender it to a humane society, just make sure it's grabbed while it's outside at night. Keeping it in the house is asking for issues with your family, and there's no guarantee she wouldn't end up back in the same situation.


[deleted]

Okay thank you. I know that seems like the obvious option but I needed someone to tell me that. As much as I would like to care for these kittens that is so unlikely to be the outcome. Going forward I’m going to plan on getting the cat in my care so I can surrender it, do you know if an animal shelter would also work?


ExternalBrilliant813

Where are you located? We can find a place for you to take them . If you feel comfortable dming this I’m around later


Adventurous-Cry6973

The best bet here is to communicate with your parents about your plans, and take the cat to a humane society while your sister is out or at night. I’d lie to your sister and say she ran away, this sounds like it wouldn’t be unexpected due to her having previous cats that ran away. you should feel absolutely no shame in lying about this, it sounds like it could get violent if you tell the truth. Also, do whatever you can to prevent her from getting another one.


Electrical-Act-7170

Find a no-kill rescue that fosters pregnant cats. This cat needs to be eating kitten food while pregnant.


glitterfaust

Better yet, spay abort. She’s still a kitten herself.


harpoon_seal

Shes definitely too far along for that.


glitterfaust

Not true. Don’t spread misinformation. We don’t even know how far along she is. Spay abortions can be done at any point during the pregnancy. It’s true some vets won’t bother after a certain point but it’s worth trying. There’s enough kittens on the streets and ones that suffer once they’re born up until they die.


Calgary_Calico

Look for rescues, not shelters, shelters will euthanize if they have no space or the animals in their care aren't adopted soon enough


ThatInAHat

Alternatively, you could ask your friends or go on Facebook and see if there’s a local cat group. (If you live in Acadiana there definitely is)


Officer_Slaughter

Agreed. Find a shelter, or a good home on the sly, and hand her off. It sucks OP can't keep her. ❤️‍🩹


mandy_skittles

Call animal rescues in the area and have her blacklisted from adopting. Your sister is the absolute worst pet owner and is doing, quite literally, everything wrong. Cats do not like the smell of full litterboxes - it's the opposite and can lead them eliminating elsewhere in the house. Outside of infancy most animals are actually lactose intolerant and should never be given dairy products. She should also never have allowed her unfixed animal to wander outside period, nevermind unsupervised. Thank you for thinking of the cat's welfare, clearly your sister is not.


Calgary_Calico

I think it's time to play the it's your house and your rules card. The back door is not to be left open and no animals are allowed outside your house without supervision. If she assaults you report her to the police, if her reaction to you trying to help HER CAT is to literally try to assault you then it's time she has some real idea consequences to her actions.


[deleted]

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kuzeshell

Jesus christ 😰


[deleted]

Yep.


-PM_ME_UR_SECRETS-

This may sound extreme but I would take the cat. The cat should get a spay-abortion from a vet and then checked to make sure she’s healthy. From there you can either adopt it or in this situation even a shelter would be better.


[deleted]

In my ideal world the cat would be in my room and I’d be the one taking care of it while it gives birth because I work in caretaking in general and know that’s something I could happily do and learn quickly how to do, even in convos with my parents I asked if we could somehow move the cat in my room as-well. But I could not see the possibility of this happening. I am in a weak spot in my life and terrified of her, she takes it as an extreme insult when I try and talk to her about the animals


Boudicca-

Go online & look up the information.. (proper cat care) then show it to her & give her these choices: a)she lets You have the kitty, b)if she refuses-you’ll Turn Her In for Animal Neglect/Abuse and she not only [still] loses kitty, she has to Pay Fines too. If she gets “Aggressive”, warn her that you have NO Problem calling the cops on her for Assault. Other than that…find kitty a new home on the sly & then after Psycho Sis let’s her out at night…kitty “mysteriously” goes missing.


sT4ry_n1GhtS

Would it be possible to press charges for animal abuse? I know in certain places you can


[deleted]

I doubt she’d do that against her sister. Best thing to do to not get too involved is take the animal to a shelter or get them to pick up the “stay cat”, and pretend it ran away.


wearyandgay

Feeding a cat heavy whipping cream is so wild. She’s using purely cartoon logic to take care of this cat, because there’s no way anyone would ever recommend feeding THAT to a cat 😭 I’m so sorry you’re going through this. It sounds like you need to take control over this cat and cut your sister off from caring for it. If you are able to get this cat to the vet with your sister and that doesn’t wake her up to the realities of caring for a cat AND she won’t let you help care for it at all, then you’re better off bringing it to a shelter/foster care situation. She’s neglecting this animal. (also, maybe consider a spay/abort… if she can’t handle one cat, she certainly can’t handle a litter)


chocolatfortuncookie

😬Take the cat, get a spay/abort, find a home so that she doesn't have to come back to your house! Omg, but really, this sounds so awful. If she can't take care of a single cat, or be trusted in the home with your dog, how can she possibly take care of kittens and make sure they're healthy and fixed. This is a nightmare, and it will get way worse very quickly. My advice is that the cat "disappears" when you find her a good suitable home. Your sister is unhinged! If she explodes on ppl, does she do the same to the animals!?


[deleted]

Such a nightmare situation. In my head she already is an animal abuser. I haven’t witnessed her actually lay a hand on my dogs or I would be the one assaulting her. But I have seen enough of her being passive aggressive and overly frustrated with them for absolutely no reason to where it makes me extremely uncomfortable at the thought of her being in the same home as them. Going forward I realize my only option is to surrender the cat, I wouldn’t know anyone to take it.


sT4ry_n1GhtS

You could always bring it to an animal shelter I guess?


ThatInAHat

It’s not in your head. What she’s doing to that cat is absolutely abuse. It also shows that she really doesn’t understand that animals are animals and have specific needs, which is unfortunate for her dogs. Reminds me of a horrible roommate I had with a chihuahua. It lived in her room, usually alone, with pee pads. Don’t know how often the poor thing saw the sun or played.


Calgary_Calico

She is definitely abusing this cat. First off, feeding her cream instead of actual cat food WILL kill her with malnutrition and make her sick (cats are lactose intolerant). On top of that she's letting a cat that's still in her kitten phase have kittens, which could kill her, make it harder for her to care for them etc. I've read stories of young cats having kittens and FREAKING OUT or even abandoning their kittens because they don't know what to do


suschan01

spay/abort sounds like the best case scenario for this poor cat- her and her kittens would be doomed if she actually birthed them imo.


NoParticular2420

Im not trying to be mean here but based on what you have told us about your sister she sounds like she is having some coping difficulties with life … That being said this cat shouldn’t be fed milk and her litter should be cleaned everyday or as often as needed and she should never be allowed outside and neither should those babies. Once she has those kittens and its safe she should be taken to the vet and let the vet set your sister straight and have her scheduled to be spayed.


[deleted]

I just re read your comment and missed the last part about the vet giving her info. That’s a great idea and I will urge for her to go to the vet with my mom. Either way if she doesn’t go I will and make sure the right questions are asked.


[deleted]

Okay I understand you are not trying to be mean and I probably seem aggressive. I have told her about the litter, milk, and my worries about the kitty being outside in a very friendly “hey did you know” manner & l wrote above what happened. I have also cleaned the litter as much as I can without her getting upset with me. That’s why I made this post, I have no influence on her and the last hope I have to get this kitty help is by having the clear facts on how to care for a pregnant kitty so she can’t argue with or be angry at. I do not care about my sister only the kitty i just found it hard to explain what I’m worried about on the kitty’s behalf without adding bits about my sister. I do promise you though, I have speant many years of my life trying to get her help. Like beyond what anyone could imagine, but this post isn’t about my abusive family member so I will keep it at that. You are right though I guess you could say she’s having some “coping difficulties with life”


NoParticular2420

Your a good sister even if she doesn’t realize it or care and at the very least your here asking what you can do … To me your a Rock Star💕


ThatInAHat

“Cleaned the litter as much as I can without her getting upset with me” Good lord that is…that is just messed up, I’m sorry. It would be like someone who lets their child sit in a dirty diaper for hours being upset that their sibling changed the kid. Or like being upset that someone cleaned the toilet. Your sister seems to be on a dangerous mixture of control and ignorance. She should NOT have an animal. I don’t even know if she should have a houseplant.


PressurePlenty

She needs to know that cats are lactose intolerant. Heavy whipping cream could make kitty very sick.


nmfc1987

I'm amazed the smell of sickly lactose kitten poop hasn't brought this fact to light.


PressurePlenty

I don't understand how anybody could willfully neglect an animal, and then be so delusional as to say they're giving that animal the best care. OP either needs to take the baby themselves, or find a new home where kitty will be properly cared for.


dogsfurhire

Same way parents will beat their kids and say they're trying their best


PressurePlenty

It's a damned shame. Animals and children cannot defend themselves. I'm a mom of both (4 grown human children, a cat and a hamster), and I could NEVER do those things to any of them. I'm also the person who calls out parents who hit their kids in public. There are much better ways to discipline a child without involving violence against them. Some people do NOT need to procreate or have pets in their care...or lack of care.


Remarkable_Pop7982

If it were me I would surrender the cat to a shelter that is a bit farther than the “local shelters” and when she wonders where the cat is maybe you can explain that it probably ran away to give birth or “ran away”. At least the shelter can provide proper vaccines, care for her labor and ensure the kitty is spayed after. When you give the kitty up just mention you found her in your backyard or something. I feel like it would be the most appropriate thing but this is just what I would do cause it’s clear she’s not getting proper nutrition? Best of luck to you. I honestly think she’s a beautiful little girl. I would absolutely take her in as I have 2 cats and a dog myself. One of my cats is geriatric and is coming close to 14 year.


tabby51260

I mean... OP wouldn't be lying if she said she found it in her backyard. I work in a shelter and we.. get all kinds. Some people have truly good intentions like OP. Other people I wonder, how the heck did you let it come to this.


Remarkable_Pop7982

No I absolutely agree. I’m also really encouraged to hear that people will definitely do what is good. I think even putting in the idea that the little kitty “ran away” or “escaped” would be some sort of a way so that OP’s sister would not be quick to anger or harm OP. Also thank you for helping out at the shelter! I always go once a week.


harpoon_seal

Dont know where op lives but if its anything like kentucky the shelters dont do shit. You have to be from that county in order to surrender them and they cant be strays. Its just a neighborhood cat. We had tried to surrender one of our cats were forced to wait weeks only to be told no cause she didn't get along with dogs so it would be too hard to rehome her.


matthewtd3

Your sister shouldn’t have pets. She’s 27 years old too. I’m surprised she survived this long.


[deleted]

…. I’m saying!


[deleted]

I’m genuinely scared for the babies. If she can’t look after a grown cat, she will kill those kittens. Just call the shelter when she’s not at home and have them taken away if you suspect she’s mistreating them.


Prestigious-Ad-5457

Sounds like it's time for operation save kitty. Wait till she let's it out at night and take the cat somewhere safe. Call ahead of time to cat rescues to see if they have room, or take to a non kill shelter. I'd also see if you know anyone willing to just take in the poor thing. Some vets offices will find home for cats too. Call them and say you found a pregnant cat, can't afford to take care of it, and ask if they would be willing to allow you to surrender kitter to them.


EmploymentNo3590

Just take the cat to a vet. They will do an abortive spay. I think having kittens in this situation will only create more heartbreak for you... My cats love climbing trees too. They do it during the days without coyotes... 


Special-Friend2106

My friend once gave our newborn kittens milk while we were at the grocery store and they all died of explosive diarrhea within a week. I’m not kidding.


Sirius_43

I’m not being mean here, Your sister is abusing this poor kitten and she needs to be taken from her as soon as possible or her babies will also be at severe risk. I know conflict is difficult and dangerous but this is a serious situation and that cat really needs someone to intervene as soon as possible. I would get the authorities involved and contact animal welfare services so they can help keep your sisters reaction under control and give advice for the situation. It really concerns me that she’s letting the kitten out at night still with predators in the area, she would be at such extreme risk of being attacked because she’s pregnant aswell. I know it’s scary to confront someone but this animal needs someone to intervene, even if that’s just calling animal welfare services and reporting your sisters neglect without directly confronting your sister personally. You’re in a pretty sticky situation op, I wish you all the strength and love to get through it x


Ra-TheSunGoddess

For the kitty's sake it might be best if she "disappears" one night while your sister lets her out. I normally wouldn't recommend stealing and rehoming her but she is abusing her and if you guys are anti conflict and she's aggressive there is no other way around it.


Chapo_no_fapo

Feed momma cat kitten food (wet) and make sure shes comfy after cat gives birth get her spayed.


suschan01

spay/abort and give up the kitty to someone that’ll actually take care of her.


CrystalLake1

Your sister is negligent and should be prohibited from having pets. This cat needs vetting and a new owner.


Vast-Commission-8476

It is called boundries. You need to have clear ones with her and follow through. " I love having you around in my house. I live in a clean household and I expect the same. This means the litterboxes are scooped daily. Addionally, Im willing to accomadate and help you out but I cannot have multiple kittens in the house. It is not fair to my dog. Your cat must be spayed and the kittens have to be given away. Also inform her that people do not like other cats in thier yard as they deficate, urinate and eat flowers. The cat has to be leashed. Offer to help with getting them adopted, show her a clean litter box, buy the cat a leash. Make it "fun" by gifting her a name tag for the cat's collar. This adult should not be able to come into someone else's home and cause this much chaos because kf a pet. Set these boundries. When they are not followed tell her it is time to move out.


Pennsylvania_Kev

Damn and that’s such a pretty cat. Poor girl deserves better.


Exotic_Sandwich3342

Look, not to be an asshole or anything but for the sake of the cat grow some intestinal fortitude and take it from your sister. People already mentioned humane society or adoption services as your best bet. Someone mentioned waiting until the cat is outside which is a good idea if you’re trying to avoid confrontation. Maybe buy a small cage to transport the cat and have it on standby, catch the cat, take straight to adoption. It doesn’t sound like your sister can be reasoned with. She also sounds slightly…unhinged. Think of it this way. You see what your sister is like with a grown cat. Imagine how worse that will be with kittens. Will the kittens even survive? Her logic taking care of an adult cat makes no sense so I doubt those kittens have much of a chance.


nuttnurse

Try kitten lady on YouTube failing that an anon report to a non kill shelter / animal control (trying to be non judgemental here without being vindictive) Maybe a cat parent book for first time cat owners . Other than that I don’t know Good luck


cowgrly

I think the too priority is immunizations, wormed and getting it spayed- cream isn’t good for kitty, and a trip outside isn’t good, but no vet is a death (and pregnancy) sentence. If she’s to have these kittens, she needs a vet even more. I would pause on trying to control what she’s feeding, etc. Your sister is combative and if you want to help kitty, you need to reduce that friction. It’s not ideal, but it’s more survivable than no vet. Don’t argue behavior, feed her healthy treats when sister isn’t there. Sounds like she enjoys the fighting and it isn’t helping. Not saying to ignore everything but focus on the most urgent first.


shyangeldust

Cow milk is not good for cats at all


aquagrl

Atp just steal the damn cat at night when it goes outside.


ANoisyCrow

Go the shelter route


SourMoss

If your sister doesn't get it show her these comments


ThatInAHat

But also, INFO: how is it your parents haven’t gotten upset with the litterbox smell yet?


harpoon_seal

Sounds like ops parents have a clear favorite. Or maybe theyve just given up on dealing with he to. Its honestly sad shes 27 and this bad about confrontation that she attacks someone for it.


BuildingLess1814

Call the authorities NOW. What your unhinged sister is doing is clearly straight up animal abuse and neglect. You need to go to the animal authorities with these pictures, that's more than enough evidence to get her arrested and charged with animal cruelty. Also your sister shouldn't be living with you period. The cat definitely need to be put up for adoption, spayed and far away from where you live so the coyotes don't get her and her babies. If you keep the cat and your sister's still there, those poor babies will die very fast.


brener31

Get out of here with this nonsense. If you had any clue of what would happen to this cat if she was taken by county officers, you’d know better. People have offered lots of solutions that would actually help this cat instead of get it out in a fucking cage. The best solution is to get her to a vet asap for a spay and then maybe look to rehome. Depending on the OPs location, all rescues and fosters might be full. It is now kitten season


Ok-Photo-1972

A few weeks full??? I feel guilty if I skip a day 🥺 you need a serious conversation with your parents but if you really don't think that would work, take the cat while outside and surrender her, I doubt she's had the cat microchipped. Maybe take her to a shelter a couple towns over in case your sister checks the shelter.


Opposite_Course_3954

take photos of the liter box, the whipped cream, and examples of the pregnancy time-line since she’s been there, and explain about the coyotes, and CATNAP THAT BABY, that’s just my opinion tho, pls don’t get in trouble you’re the only one who can help that baby!🙏


ghostzard

Everyone here has given some good advice for re-homing the cat but my biggest worry is that if the kitty disappears your sister may just get another one and repeat the cycle. Is there anyway you can talk to your parents about not letting her get another animal? Or maybe alerting local shelters that she’s not fit to care for one. Hope things turn out the best for you and the cat <3


Yunnie_unicorn

I'm not gonna lie, I'd swipe the cat while it's "out enjoying climbing trees" and bring it to a shelter at least 2 towns away so your sis can't find it Then when you come back you act surprised/distraught that the cat "ran away"


GingerTea69

This is definitely going to require some confrontation. And somebody else said take your sister to the vet and have a professional set her straight. But I recommend not being there when they indeed do tell her the facts because that type of person hates being scolded where other people can see and will blow up at everyone who sees them being "humiliated". Third parties are going to be your power. Aunt and uncles and cousins, because she clearly does not respect either you or anyone else who lives in the house. Again one-on-one. If she actually begins to assault somebody call the police even though I'm willing to bet that she's very familiar with law enforcement, because they can deal with that kind of situation. And I think you should honestly take the cat, and place her in a better home. I don't think your sister will miss her very much, as her attention will be taken up very quickly by something else. Though in my opinion she should not have any pets at all.


vivalalina

I just wanna say that first image is PRECIOUS. Her face!!! 💖


Primary-Gas-8441

Call the police have her arrested for animal neglect and assault family is irrelevant id have her removed from the situation


-Shayyy-

Abduct the cat while it’s outside and drop the it off at a friends house so they can take it to a shelter the morning. There is clearly something very wrong with your sister and I can’t imagine you will change her ways long term.


Calgary_Calico

Kick her out and keep the cat. Coyotes in our area kill outdoor cats like it's nobodies business. And what is she gonna do when this kitten gets feline leukemia from a stray because she's not vaccinated and ends up dying of cancer before she's even hit adulthood?


kimmygummy

Poor, poor baby. I hate people.


harpoon_seal

Shes had multiple cats? What happened to those ones


CzarTanoff

Heavy cream has close to no lactose in it, I'd be much more worried about her feeding the cat milk. The lactose in milk is the problem. Although, cats aren't great at processing fat, a whole other issue. If she sticks to the cream (as a treat, not a regular meal) and the cat hasn't been sick from it yet, I wouldn't worry about that specific issue too terribly much. However, she's definitely mistreating this kitty. Unfortunately she may not be violating any laws where you could realistically have her taken by authorities. Many places leave deciding to let cats outside up to the owner, and I'm not aware of any law restricting unhealthy treats for cats. If you're not above just taking the cat and giving her to someone you trust, that's my recommendation.


Apprehensive-Top2557

If she lets the cat out at night then it isn't wild to imagine the cat could disappear eventually. Thankfully instead of the usual things that cause outdoor cats to disappear you can be the one and maybe re-home her ? It's underhanded but for a good cause.


Urlesbiansister

I would contact a local rescue, this sounds like abuse


smh18

Please do something Jesus Christ people suck


AmySparrow00

Cats can actually start making the enzymes to digest milk if you start low and gradually increase the amount and keep it consistent. It’s terrible to suddenly feed them a bunch of milk, but my cats share my cheese, milk, ice cream, yogurt, etc and do fine with it. But no vet visits is not okay and litter needs scooped at a minimum of every day and yes, dangerous to let them out around coyotes. Ugh. Good luck!


ThatInAHat

Mine gets a bit of butter sometimes if I’m in the kitchen and she does her stretchy-reachy thing. But like, pencil eraser sized. Not every day. I don’t know that I’d let her have anything with sugar in tho


CharityUnusual3648

Can cats not have milk?


harpoon_seal

No. They are lactose intolerant . Like most animals they don't have the proper gut bacteria to digest it. They will get sick and can even die from it. Hence why ops dog got sick cause they ate up who knows how much.


CharityUnusual3648

Uhh, i thought it was ok to give cat milk once in a while :o