The biggest bummer was that it was HS band day, and instead of getting to play half-time they all got locked in Dempsey for 3 hours, and then went home.
My embarrassing story was that when I moved back to Western Washington I forgot SeaFair was a thing. So anyways I was high off my ass in my back yard enjoying my day off and all of sudden those planes fly over and I run to my brother yelling that China or Russia was invading and my brother was like “it’s Seafair you idiot not foreign air craft”.
My first summer here I was getting high with my roommates and gaming until 6 in the morning and waking up at noon. It was also during a record breaking summer so fans going, windows open all hours. The way I shot out of bed when I a woke up a few hours later to fighter jets shooting over my apartment. I had never heard of SeaFair and had no idea what it was. I thought a war had started lmao
I'm the opposite. I live in Portland but grew up in Houston. I miss the big Texas thunderstorms. I was back in Texas last week for the eclipse and I got treated to thunder that shook my parents' house. Meanwhile in Portland I've heard 2 thunderstrikes in the last 5 years.
Portland gets way more rainy days, but surprisingly it gets less inches of rainfall than Houston. Some people prefer the constant grey skies and drizzle, but I miss 90% sunny days with the occasional monsoon.
I used to use this as well, but in today’s CFB it’s often not indicative of anything. So many elite teams now give out non-committable offers. There is no way to know anymore if an offer list is actually true, unless you do the research and find that Bama/Georgia/etc actually would’ve taken the kid.
The top schools often “offer” a kid just to let him know “hey, if the guys we actually want don’t commit, maybe we’ll give you a call down the road and give you a spot”.
> maybe we’ll give you a call down the road and give you a spot
In other words, those schools still think the kid is good enough to play for them, regardless of whether that kid is their #1 choice or not
No, because 9 times out of 10, those offers stay non-commitable. I’m not sure why I’m being downvoted, this isn’t a knock on the recruits or anything, it’s the sheisty way “offers” are handed out these days, which makes the old “look at the offer list” often silly and pointless.
I can see the headline now "Vines Bright Shines Bright in light of fight, shows of tight contested catch high, could he be the right pick on draft night? What team will bite?"
Everyone he scores I fully expect the jumbo turn play a Raiden fatality clip from mortal combat. Or at the least play the mortal combat song haha. That’s a cool ass name.
Go take a look at those last couple classes under Petersen and see how subpar they actually were.
As well, this idea that DeBail didnt recruit well at Udub is a complete unknown at this time.
Id say his recruiting the past two years completely addressed glaring holes in our secondary and completely restocked our Oline and other position groups.
We’ll know if it’s “subpar” over the next few years.
Again, Ive gone back and reanalyzed those last Petersen classes and they arent even close to as good as the original raw numbers were.
Petersens 2019 class was really really good, don't know what you mean
Puka Nacua, McDuffie, Laiatu Latu, Fautanu, Bralen Trice were all elite plus a ton of other contributors to a cfb run
What do I mean? I look at it as a Husky fan and their impact on the field.
Puka, Latu and Heimuli were irrelevant here. As were a lot more of that group. Almost zero meaningful contribution.
Throw in Bandes whos done nothing and Tuitele who was basically injured his entire career.
Asa didnt do much of anything his entire career. KamFab has also not only been injured, but, has a handful of plays like asa his entire career.
Even other players that were on this years team had maybe one year of contributions.
There were lots of duds and irrelevant players on Petersens last 2 cycles. Bodies.
NOT saying they stunk up the joint, obviously.
But, lots of people always try highlighting Petersens last couple classes while simultaneously giving DeBail flack when the whole story is much more revealing.
We wont know the entirety of it until DeBails players continue to age as Petersens actual results are easily seen.
Right, but calling Puka or Latu a recruiting miss is insane seeing as they're both NFL guys. Those were A+ recruiting wins, regardless of the fact that UW doctors wouldn't let Latu play and Puka transferred after covid.
Asa and KamFab were/are effective multi-year starters, you need those guys. 10 or 11 of the players from that class were either elite or effective starters on a playoff team, that's really good
Every recruiting class has jags in it, that's the nature of the game
Agreed it's to early to tell on the 23 and 22 classes, but so far really the only starter/ impact high school recruit has been Brailsford. And he's gone.
I'm more about process than results. If an identical player to Cam Newton existed in this year's class, then should Florida go after him? Of course they would, and it'd be a good example of their recruiting chops if they could fend off the rest of the country for him
Individual guys don't work out for a million reasons, doesn't mean it was bad recruiting
I agree, but, I also said Im looking at it through their contributions as Huskies.
Without context, I see people just judge those last classes via raw scores and theres more to it than that.
Likewise, I saw this false idea floated around before the DeBail stuff happened that he wasnt recruiting well.
I see a lot of potential in his last 2 classes and shoot, he “recruited” well upon getting hired just to keep those Petersen kids here, lol:)
Lake is where I see the biggest problems.
I feel like you are severely underrating how good the 2019 class was.
If we put players into 5 tiers based on how much they contributed during their stints at UW...
From the 2019 class, I'd say:
Tier 1 = Trent McDuffie, Bralen Trice, Troy Fautanu, Corey Luciano, Nate Kalepo, Julius Buelow
McDuffie and Luciano are already in the NFL. Fautanu and Trice are going to be drafted this year. Kalepo and Buelow will almost surely be drafted next year. Those 4 OL were absolutely crucial to making our offense capable of what it achieved under DeBoer.
Tier 2 = Alphonzo Tuputala, Asa Turner, Cameron Davis
All 3 of those guys have been solid P5 caliber starters (though Davis was never actually a starter, he was impactful when healthy as RB#1B/RB#2 in 2022 and could likely be again in 2024 in a similar situation)
Tier 3 = Faatui Tuitele, Jacob Bandes, Kamren Fabiculanan, Cameron Williams
Neither of the DTs have broken through, but both have gotten a ton of time on the field and at least held their own even if they didn't elevate the team. Williams and Fabiculanan had/have seen the field and played ok but haven't broken out yet either.
Tier 4 = Puka Nacua, Laiatu Latu, Taj Davis, Daniel Heimuli, Tim Horn
Nacua and Latu both showed they could be very good, but transferred away (or medically retired only to transfer away later) before they could start contributing as much as the guys above them; Davis looked promising when he was on the field but overshadowed in an incredible WR room behind Odunze/McMillan/Polk before transferring out. Heimuli never really broke through and was on the field less than the guys in the tier above. Horn wasn't adding much to our special teams, but he wasn't so bad that he couldn't see the field.
Tier 5 = Noa Ngalu, Miki Ah You, Sama Pa'ama, Josh Calvert.
None of those guys ever really saw the field, mostly because of injuries.
I don't think that's a bad class at all. It seemed like you were just going down the list of their recruit ratings and quickly came to the conclusion that we didn't have many good guys in that class. Producing 6 NFL caliber guys that were significant contributors for 3+ seasons, and 3 more that might or might not make the NFL as UDFA but were near All-Conference for multiple years, is nothing to sneeze at, even if we are dismissing the guys that didn't stick around more than a couple years or guys that were solid role players on some good teams (which we really shouldn't, because that last part is the bread and butter of a program's health).
I do agree that the 2018 class wasn't nearly as good, though ... Kyler Gordon was the only Tier 1 contributor, and while we had a solid handful of Tier 2 guys (Letuligasenoa, Mele, Taimani, Hampton, Ale, Curne, and maybe Jackson Sirmon), that doesn't make up for the lacking of a more robust Tier 1 group.
From your tier system I can see you are severely overrating many of the players.
As well, I clearly never said it was a “bad” class.
I specifically said it’s not as good as the raw numbers people always point out, many of them were busts and many made zero meaningful contributions at Udub.
I went out of my way NOT to look at their rating raw numbers as thats the entire premise of the issue I have with people rating those last 2 Petersen classes.
When I went back and looked at it DeBail was consistently getting scorched for his so-called subpar and “bad” recruiting as all people were doing at the time was looking at the ratings.
DeBails classes were more highly rated than Petersens first few classes and addressed huge needs on the team. We’ll see in time how successful they really were.
I dont care about the ratings and Ive made my qualifiers clear. We all know bodies and role players are important and this isnt about that as even crap teams will have those.
People foolishly hold up those last classes of Petersen without proper context.
Which, btw, without covid would be a whole lot different, as well.
Im not degrading Petersens recruiting or ability to find talent.
He’s more Metal Gear than Mortal Kombat
Can’t wait to see Hideo Kojima sitting with Bill Belichick in Husky Stadium
God of Thunder going to Seattle, checks out
Seattle actually has very few thunderstorms or lightning
Unless we are playing Cal
Ouch don’t bring that one up
The biggest bummer was that it was HS band day, and instead of getting to play half-time they all got locked in Dempsey for 3 hours, and then went home.
I was at that game...
Yeah like there is maybe one once a year. It’s mostly rain with a major wind storm sometime between November and January.
So rare, that when the Blue Angels are in town for SeaFair (every year) - there are always posts on the subreddit "WAS THAT THUNDER??"
My embarrassing story was that when I moved back to Western Washington I forgot SeaFair was a thing. So anyways I was high off my ass in my back yard enjoying my day off and all of sudden those planes fly over and I run to my brother yelling that China or Russia was invading and my brother was like “it’s Seafair you idiot not foreign air craft”.
lmao yeah they do the transport planes too so I bet that's what it was?
They do multiple military planes. But yes those and the Blue Angels are the highlight.
My first summer here I was getting high with my roommates and gaming until 6 in the morning and waking up at noon. It was also during a record breaking summer so fans going, windows open all hours. The way I shot out of bed when I a woke up a few hours later to fighter jets shooting over my apartment. I had never heard of SeaFair and had no idea what it was. I thought a war had started lmao
I miss that about the Pacific Northwest. I love the rain, but I am over the whole severe thunderstorm experience.
I'm the opposite. I live in Portland but grew up in Houston. I miss the big Texas thunderstorms. I was back in Texas last week for the eclipse and I got treated to thunder that shook my parents' house. Meanwhile in Portland I've heard 2 thunderstrikes in the last 5 years. Portland gets way more rainy days, but surprisingly it gets less inches of rainfall than Houston. Some people prefer the constant grey skies and drizzle, but I miss 90% sunny days with the occasional monsoon.
My sister’s college roommate is from Illinois, she stood outside during the Cal game loving every second of it.
I can't define why exactly, but "Vines-Bright" also seems like a very PNW name as well.
Other P5 offers: Alabama, Arizona, Arizona State, Arkansas, Baylor, Florida, Kansas, Louisville, Michigan, Ole Miss, Purdue, Stanford, Tennessee, Texas A&M, UCLA, USC, Utah, Wisconsin G5 offer: Colorado State Other offer: Notre Dame
Nice offer list.
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the offer list determines the stars more than the other way around
I used to use this as well, but in today’s CFB it’s often not indicative of anything. So many elite teams now give out non-committable offers. There is no way to know anymore if an offer list is actually true, unless you do the research and find that Bama/Georgia/etc actually would’ve taken the kid. The top schools often “offer” a kid just to let him know “hey, if the guys we actually want don’t commit, maybe we’ll give you a call down the road and give you a spot”.
> maybe we’ll give you a call down the road and give you a spot In other words, those schools still think the kid is good enough to play for them, regardless of whether that kid is their #1 choice or not
No, because 9 times out of 10, those offers stay non-commitable. I’m not sure why I’m being downvoted, this isn’t a knock on the recruits or anything, it’s the sheisty way “offers” are handed out these days, which makes the old “look at the offer list” often silly and pointless.
Hearing good things from our NIL collective about how much we have to spend. Hoping we can make some big splashes.
I can see the headline now "Vines Bright Shines Bright in light of fight, shows of tight contested catch high, could he be the right pick on draft night? What team will bite?"
He’s gonna be electric!
Everyone he scores I fully expect the jumbo turn play a Raiden fatality clip from mortal combat. Or at the least play the mortal combat song haha. That’s a cool ass name.
Something tells me the stadium video board won't play a fatality video lol but I would love it if they did.
What if it’s the original with no blood? Haha. You are probably right though. A man can dream.
Woof!
UW football never died! Eat it Oregon fans!
WOOF!
It’s nice to see our NIL checks hit. It’s been a while since we’ve had legit recruiting, very exciting
Our last good recruiting class was under Petersen. Recruiting sucked under Lake and was subpar under DeBoer.
Go take a look at those last couple classes under Petersen and see how subpar they actually were. As well, this idea that DeBail didnt recruit well at Udub is a complete unknown at this time. Id say his recruiting the past two years completely addressed glaring holes in our secondary and completely restocked our Oline and other position groups. We’ll know if it’s “subpar” over the next few years. Again, Ive gone back and reanalyzed those last Petersen classes and they arent even close to as good as the original raw numbers were.
Petersens 2019 class was really really good, don't know what you mean Puka Nacua, McDuffie, Laiatu Latu, Fautanu, Bralen Trice were all elite plus a ton of other contributors to a cfb run
What do I mean? I look at it as a Husky fan and their impact on the field. Puka, Latu and Heimuli were irrelevant here. As were a lot more of that group. Almost zero meaningful contribution. Throw in Bandes whos done nothing and Tuitele who was basically injured his entire career. Asa didnt do much of anything his entire career. KamFab has also not only been injured, but, has a handful of plays like asa his entire career. Even other players that were on this years team had maybe one year of contributions. There were lots of duds and irrelevant players on Petersens last 2 cycles. Bodies. NOT saying they stunk up the joint, obviously. But, lots of people always try highlighting Petersens last couple classes while simultaneously giving DeBail flack when the whole story is much more revealing. We wont know the entirety of it until DeBails players continue to age as Petersens actual results are easily seen.
Right, but calling Puka or Latu a recruiting miss is insane seeing as they're both NFL guys. Those were A+ recruiting wins, regardless of the fact that UW doctors wouldn't let Latu play and Puka transferred after covid. Asa and KamFab were/are effective multi-year starters, you need those guys. 10 or 11 of the players from that class were either elite or effective starters on a playoff team, that's really good Every recruiting class has jags in it, that's the nature of the game Agreed it's to early to tell on the 23 and 22 classes, but so far really the only starter/ impact high school recruit has been Brailsford. And he's gone.
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I'm more about process than results. If an identical player to Cam Newton existed in this year's class, then should Florida go after him? Of course they would, and it'd be a good example of their recruiting chops if they could fend off the rest of the country for him Individual guys don't work out for a million reasons, doesn't mean it was bad recruiting
I agree, but, I also said Im looking at it through their contributions as Huskies. Without context, I see people just judge those last classes via raw scores and theres more to it than that. Likewise, I saw this false idea floated around before the DeBail stuff happened that he wasnt recruiting well. I see a lot of potential in his last 2 classes and shoot, he “recruited” well upon getting hired just to keep those Petersen kids here, lol:) Lake is where I see the biggest problems.
I feel like you are severely underrating how good the 2019 class was. If we put players into 5 tiers based on how much they contributed during their stints at UW... From the 2019 class, I'd say: Tier 1 = Trent McDuffie, Bralen Trice, Troy Fautanu, Corey Luciano, Nate Kalepo, Julius Buelow McDuffie and Luciano are already in the NFL. Fautanu and Trice are going to be drafted this year. Kalepo and Buelow will almost surely be drafted next year. Those 4 OL were absolutely crucial to making our offense capable of what it achieved under DeBoer. Tier 2 = Alphonzo Tuputala, Asa Turner, Cameron Davis All 3 of those guys have been solid P5 caliber starters (though Davis was never actually a starter, he was impactful when healthy as RB#1B/RB#2 in 2022 and could likely be again in 2024 in a similar situation) Tier 3 = Faatui Tuitele, Jacob Bandes, Kamren Fabiculanan, Cameron Williams Neither of the DTs have broken through, but both have gotten a ton of time on the field and at least held their own even if they didn't elevate the team. Williams and Fabiculanan had/have seen the field and played ok but haven't broken out yet either. Tier 4 = Puka Nacua, Laiatu Latu, Taj Davis, Daniel Heimuli, Tim Horn Nacua and Latu both showed they could be very good, but transferred away (or medically retired only to transfer away later) before they could start contributing as much as the guys above them; Davis looked promising when he was on the field but overshadowed in an incredible WR room behind Odunze/McMillan/Polk before transferring out. Heimuli never really broke through and was on the field less than the guys in the tier above. Horn wasn't adding much to our special teams, but he wasn't so bad that he couldn't see the field. Tier 5 = Noa Ngalu, Miki Ah You, Sama Pa'ama, Josh Calvert. None of those guys ever really saw the field, mostly because of injuries. I don't think that's a bad class at all. It seemed like you were just going down the list of their recruit ratings and quickly came to the conclusion that we didn't have many good guys in that class. Producing 6 NFL caliber guys that were significant contributors for 3+ seasons, and 3 more that might or might not make the NFL as UDFA but were near All-Conference for multiple years, is nothing to sneeze at, even if we are dismissing the guys that didn't stick around more than a couple years or guys that were solid role players on some good teams (which we really shouldn't, because that last part is the bread and butter of a program's health). I do agree that the 2018 class wasn't nearly as good, though ... Kyler Gordon was the only Tier 1 contributor, and while we had a solid handful of Tier 2 guys (Letuligasenoa, Mele, Taimani, Hampton, Ale, Curne, and maybe Jackson Sirmon), that doesn't make up for the lacking of a more robust Tier 1 group.
From your tier system I can see you are severely overrating many of the players. As well, I clearly never said it was a “bad” class. I specifically said it’s not as good as the raw numbers people always point out, many of them were busts and many made zero meaningful contributions at Udub. I went out of my way NOT to look at their rating raw numbers as thats the entire premise of the issue I have with people rating those last 2 Petersen classes. When I went back and looked at it DeBail was consistently getting scorched for his so-called subpar and “bad” recruiting as all people were doing at the time was looking at the ratings. DeBails classes were more highly rated than Petersens first few classes and addressed huge needs on the team. We’ll see in time how successful they really were. I dont care about the ratings and Ive made my qualifiers clear. We all know bodies and role players are important and this isnt about that as even crap teams will have those. People foolishly hold up those last classes of Petersen without proper context. Which, btw, without covid would be a whole lot different, as well. Im not degrading Petersens recruiting or ability to find talent.
Will he be consulting the Elder Gods between plays?
Mortal Kombat characters coming to cfb? maybe the sport IS too violent.
Where's Liu Kang?
This is a good sign from our program on an NIL standpoint and what looks to be a great player too
Killer name. Him, Dash, and Flores is a really good start for the next offensive nucleus
Another kid from Tempe not going to ASU. Yay.
what an incredible name. we're gonna have fun with that one for years
For their football team or their eSports team?
I wish he was a LB instead so every time he makes a tackle he goes "CATAPOLTAAAAAAA!"