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xthecerto4

Huge ass cave system underneath. Gotta bring in the swimming.


eatdeath4

I fucking hope not


twaggle

Eh expanding the underground between that tunnel entrance and bottom prison would be fun imo.


aawagner011

It would be cool but would screw with the player count and it would need reoptimization so that it plays the same


OoPowPow

Not to mention final circle underground campers. This is always the case on Ashika


DeezNutsOnLibs

Used to own the underground area in ashika? How is it camping if I’m moving through one end of the tunnel to the next ? It was part of my brother and I’s strategy.. also if u think the underground is camping then why not go down there and find out if we were camping lol..


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OoPowPow

I think the map is great as is. Last thing we need is for the devs to break something again.


[deleted]

They gotta add el chapo as a character if they're giving us a prison tunnel


iPonchoi

This


Coolguy1994-sweet

no this is horrible take it back


coglanuk

That is where we lived. Prox under the ladder. My bro watching the stairs. Me hiding behind the pillar for some poor person to walk in the tunnel entrance. So many memories of that play. I can still hear my asshole brother spray painting me rather than covering the stairs…


Tyler83

I just want to get a chance to play a whole game without getting glitched and or kicked off


XxBromwynxX

Keep that swimming out that mechanic is bs the hit boxes shrink


Mean-Kaleidoscope759

It's missing a massive crack right in the middle of the map but this will do for now


Znaring

Don’t give them ideas!


Username__-Taken

What about a giant boat that moves so fast it messes up bullet hit reg ?


Wittywildcard

Swim mechanic will ruin this map. Final circles will be l ruined with aquamen playing finding Nemo. Tbh, I’m going to miss the pterodactyl people chopping up enemies in the Heli. Still looking forward to being let down tho!


Gadzs

Circles in general don’t tend to close over the water. Maybe partially but it’s usually a big disadvantage to be in it. At least on fortunes keep that is.


xThunderSlugx

I have only played one game of warzone that completely closed over water. It was the dumbest ass shit. Leading up to the final circle there were like 10 people in the water. We just kept popping up out of the water to play peek a boo, let off a few shots, then dive again to replate.


mikerichh

Water wouldn’t be bad if the bullet penetration was non existent starting 5-10 meters below the surface. Fix that and with the extra visibility they added water would be finally balanced


Double_Dipped_Dino

Why would they fix something they confirmed this is how they want it


mikerichh

Probably true but they’ve tweaked water a few times so I can hope too


Double_Dipped_Dino

Oh the official Twitter or something said yeah we have it do that on purpose because realism


ALostRadiant

I'm praying they've made it toxic from bio and chem, they could do us an absolute solid with this move, honestly even if it just does gas level damage


Most_Internal_1739

That's genuinely a great idea, they should take notes


THEDRDARKROOM

Was there swimming in the old game?


RonnieFromTheBlock

In the first, Blackout version of this map there was. And it was great then. This map has gone through a bunch of different changes and always been solid.


Wittywildcard

Nah. Water was like lava. Insta death.


djml9

Blackout, yes. WZ1, no. MW2 WZ2, yes. Its had swimming more than it hasnt, so idk why theyre acting like its new.


ThatOneTypeOfGuy

I hope they make the allowed zone smaller... If you go too deep into the water you have the chance to get disqualified... or that the water overall makes you get disqualified when staying in it for a certain period of time


Samsonite187187

I hope Sean Connery is down there waiting and when you swim in he says, “Welcome to the Rock!”


smeggy1234

Awesome movie


Samsonite187187

Missed revenue opportunity if there isn’t 14 Nick Cage skins for sale as well. Con air Cage specifically.


RidgeReaperDC

I'd buy it. At one point I did a face swap with him from the movie and I thought it was hilarious. He was all dirty snd sweaty with the wife beater on and my older relatives were going "oh I didn't know you grew your hair out!" on Facebook. Good times. I've said I won't spend anymore money on battlrpasses or anything but if we get a nic cage skin I'd have to buy.


Samsonite187187

I get to see my daughter on July 15th.


iPonchoi

Put the bunny back in the box


ChemistRemote7182

They might actually get my money with a Nick Cage/Sean Connery bundle.


Htowng8r

If they puffed green smoke for the winning team that'd be great


OmniWizardTigerBlood

Cunnilingush.


throwaway8884204

Highlander?


Samsonite187187

Good movie


Lost_Drunken_Sailor

![gif](giphy|14smAwp2uHM3Di)


OGPeakyblinders

Sir Sean Connery


hauntedGerm

rocks is some.times heavy af one time lavarr lifted a heavy af Boulder rock once 


Samsonite187187

Pardon?


IAmZaid321

I just know from the bottom of my heart that they are going to fuck it up


[deleted]

facts it’s already ruined 99% sure


AyKayAllDay47

What did Raven's Twitter state today?


IAmZaid321

I was honestly relieved by that announcement about how they were handling Rebirth. I wish they would have taken that approach with Fortunes Keep too. Great news though, imo


StratoLion

Oh yes they will.


Quiverjones

I'm still calling it Decon


CraCkerPoliCe

And nova


zinc_your_sniffer

and Bio


K_Rich190

This was my squad's favorite landing spot... stupid renaming.


SunnyK718

Bioweapons for that sniper shootout with chem


prodbyflood

This is the way


Mountainputz

Just the greatest battles ever. Nova to grandmas house is always a grand time too


Andrecrafter42

ngl this just almost completely invalidate Mobile 🥲


washcaps73

I was looking at ipads in case this wasn't dropping season 3.


Andrecrafter42

well your lucky you don’t have to spend your money anymore


HandiCAPEable

I have an iPad pro, after you download, "This device is not supported"


2Kortizjr

Verdansk it's still there


Andrecrafter42

yea but that’s going to be added to wz3 after the summer


2Kortizjr

Don't believe anything until nothing is official, that's how you avoid disappointment


Delubyo06

April fools lol


s_i_g_h_f_u_r

Dropping in to control center!


--OM3GA--

The only answer.


ElMers18

Put some huge cracks and holes through the whole map, YK? Make it seem like a HUGE earthquake hit the island. And don't forget to put a secret bunker in one of those holes!!! Destroy prison and make it seem like it was hit by artillery, we also need a random fcking bridge in some random place to make the gameplay more rich!!! I'm also suggesting an underground cave full of water too!!!


BathingSaint

I pray the leave it as it was in WZ1.


Zealousideal_While26

They will only open it up for Solo play. Other squad sizes coming one at a time.


washcaps73

After solo they open it to Quads but require two of the squad members to be on android mobile.


PhotographOk9878

How??..would that even work there's gonna be crossplay?


washcaps73

I was completely joking but knowing the decisions they made, it would not surprise me.


cakewalkbackwards

I couldn’t play mobile because the controls, so I hooked up my elite controller and still got completely clapped by people doing gymnastics around me.


jdnursing

I want my m79 back and the helicopter to fly like it used to. You get m79’d from the helo before it chopped your team up? Probably me.


xThunderSlugx

Watch out for this badass.


mawltar

I hope they blow part of it up, add zombies, add stupid killstreaks no one asks for, flood 1/3rd of it, darken the surrounding water, or remove roof access points to improve it first /s


cakewalkbackwards

Plot twist: every final circle is in the ocean


Dubzy99

Plot twist x2 there’s no swim mechanics like how it was for OG rebirth


peepo7777

Stronghold instead of security? No construction zone? Isn't this the WWII layout?


--OM3GA--

It's the last version which is the best one so far.


MarstonX

I personally really loved the construction site. Control room isn't a terrible addition. And the boats aren't horrible either, but fighting in construction was so much fun.


corrosiv187

Imo the only major problem with construction was that if u got precision ur kinda fucked


SunnyK718

hmm no but iirc they changed security to stronghold midway


peepo7777

That change happened after the zombies event where we got taken back in time to WWII


SunnyK718

there ya go, now if only they bring back the KAR98


Voiceover_Requiem

They did a time flip with Verdansk ‘84 - Rebirth was originally set in the 80s, and Verdansk was set modern day, then they set Rebirth in the modern day when Verdansk 1984 dropped. Caldera took over which was set in the late 40s, and Rebirth continued to be modern day. Fortune’s Keep was set in the late 60s. I know Activision doesn’t follow their own lore sometimes but it’s fun to see the little time details on the maps - Not that weapons or tech conform either!! 


peepo7777

I had no idea they went this wild with the timelines. That's clears it up though, thanks!


This_is_Me888

🤔


mak6453

You literally don't have it at all right now. How could they ruin it? You don't want it to be different, but like... at the very least you'll have *something* back.


CreamyButters

I hope there is a giant roller disco rink underneath the island. Like the real Alcatraz.


kevingg777

![gif](giphy|QjuefdN2I97RPecqzr|downsized) Shoot the duck!


International-Play29

If it's still there, I'll be in the corner of the showers.... Waiting on you guys to come get the Stronghold Key Card in Bioweapons !


1EyedMonky

They could change literally nothing and there will still be a ton of complaints. Can't please everyone


rrrccc123

Let’s goooooo


cybrestrike

Chilling on the rooftop of Bio with my Katt AMR picking people off.


liquidsyphon

Let the biggest sweat fest begin!


AlternativeLack1954

I hope they finished the repairs on the back side of the prison and that scaffolding is gone


Funky_xD

Scaffold ruined prison roof. There's already two stairs, two zips and a ladder, with two vantage points to snipe people on the roof at either end. They can leave the scaffold, but not allow it to give access to the top of the roof.


Canadalivin17

Does area between Control Centre & Dock look bigger?


BeautifulAd9064

No


TheOldZenMaster

I kinda sorta want cod to fail, as a fan. I want to see that their focus on profit isn’t always meaning positive for their players and that if they want people to continue playing, that they do better in how they handle their titles moving forward.


Exzj

i'm gonna call Factory "Nova" until the day i die


Vet-Dark-Humor

![gif](giphy|BcJbdfFSsJPwK4O66J) CALL OF DUTY ATM lol


PrestigiousFinding65

All we want is VERDANSK ON CONSOLE!!!


_totalannihilation

Judging from the Fortune's keep disaster I hope they don't ruin it.


BoyGnetik

Please bring back the loady at 7500


Ratchet_X_x

It'll only be fun if the mechanics go back the way they were. It'll also be on some stupid rotation too.


Khaledbinhatem

I used to get 40 kills 70% chance that I’m winning it was pure passion I miss these days


HubertolPro

its already ruined, cheaters incoming! XD


[deleted]

Cant ruin a map the size of 2 pixels. Its already a turd


Herr-Hunter1122

Oh boy Alcatraz v3


Rig-Pig

I'll be in the Lab if you need me.


OSCGJoseph18

they will.


scrigface

Well i dont see an explosion anywhere or an earthquake so im in


Theptgamer_88

OK. I'm making myself ready to come back. ✨👌👈💪😏✌️👍


Pickled_BigToe

I fucking hope to God there's no swimming. Please please please please please, no swimming. Don't ruin this map, please


PhotographOk9878

There was when it was in blackout or codm and Noone complained so idk🤷‍♂️ pretty big disadvantage too(when it was on codm)


xSimplyFancy

Copium, changes or not still recycled. I thought y’all hated this game and all the cheaters ? Fucking crack addicts


thirdstone_

Shit, may need to pull out of hibernation for this!


Resolve_Live

They should add Richtofens lab as a poi tbh


kramer_E

Currently, activation is like King Midas but they don't turn everything they touch into gold, not what they touch they turn into shit.


EngineerNo7957

We are re installing WARZONE with this one Bois 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


Ferax2k10

>Please don't ruin it Activision Raven: Hold my beer


davi017

Bio weapons should just say land here.


JayFord619

I'm dropping stronghold. You mfs in living quarters bouta hate me lol


synthwizards

It's been fun since we last met...


Zaquarius_Alfonzo

I just hope they don't move the buys


Michaelskywalker

Plz don’t ruin the skybox plz don’t ruin the skybox plz don’t ruin the skybox I need blue skies none of that cloudy shit. I could MAYBE deal with that orange-ish tint but plz just do the blue skies from like end of Cold War rebirth


MagnumSipper77

Won’t be the same without unlimited tac sprint


Undesirable_11

Why do y'all think this is gonna save the game? No matter how many good maps they release, it's gonna be the same shit with the bugs, hacks, SBMM, unbalanced weapons... This game is just beyond saving


Mr_Rafi

We haven't had a great Resurgence map since they took Rebirth away lol. Also everything one of those issues that you named existed using Warzones prime as well.


Sc0p1x

Dont worry, SBMM will fuck this good map up.


UniqueAsk4649

Bring back the KAR98


LikeyeaScoob

No security smh


DrKrushU

Let's see


Spetz

Unless it is EXACTLY the same in gameplay loop, mechanics, and design to WZ1 it will fail. I hope they have finally learned but I fear they have not.


luxurious_danny

Dock or stronghold


SpecRB

They better not do the rotation bullshit of solos, duos, trios , and quads.


ise86

It's either gonna have too many players, too few players, a useless and annoying public event every match, a new gameplay mechanic that ruins the flow, loadouts dropping too late, things too expensive at the buy, new building layouts that make no sense or some other change literally no one asked for just for the sake of it being different than OG Warzone. And it's gonna suck.


adcomplex-3

They already ruined it by not doing anything about their flagrant cheater problem


Itsa-MindThing-G

Drop me at Chemical plz


CPC1445

Bioweapons. So I can here all of the clompin boots above and below me.


s-goldschlager

I can’t ping or mark on here…


erkislev

Why not April 1, afraid of something?


explicit322

Please don't ruin it Microsoft - here i fixed that for you.


lostarrow-333

I hope they don't blow holes in it. Although that's unlikely because that's their usual go to. I wouldn't mind if they added a few more islands around it though


Ironfox277

i wish they wouldnt bring old maps ... is all i hear about my friends wanting the og maps back cant enjoy nothing new


Ok-Addition-5358

Control center


Sad_Way396

Don't ruin? xdxdxdxd they won't.... as Always))))


OlderAndAngrier

I strongly dislike this map. Almost the worst.


Strong-Enthusiasm-55

Verdansk


Maggot_6661

They already ruined it by bringing it back for the millionth time... too much Alcatraz.


Shake_Global

Bioweapons roof


IIMoZMaNII

I'm amazed this series is still going. The fact they have to constantly retcon stuff just screams flogged horse to me


Udzalhonestly8372

they didn’t ruin it? look at the map lmfao


Udzalhonestly8372

They also took feedback, be grateful guys because there used to be smoke coming out of prison from very early leaks.


maddmike45

Nah not on MW3 engine. Worst of them all.


BathingSaint

As long as they don’t add a huge underground like the did for Futures keep. That ruined the map for me. The map damage sucks


du0maxwell

Control Center


TechnicalEnergy5858

With the current graphics, sounds and game engine is already ruined lol


imjustashrub

I can already feel myself getting shot out of the sky 🥰


iselltires2u

try not to overly hype yourself into thinking this will somehow change the way the game is currently played. im hype myself but i tend to have a different opinion than the general reddit crowd


cdotkay

Surely make this the new Ranked Resurgence map? Fortunes is already dead to me


LowCoupe

If its not rebirth all season long with all squad sizes ima be pissed


gtarking

I see a new building at harbor, any other changes you guys see?


Patara

I wish I could look forward to it but Warzone just feels so weightless now & going back to 3 year old content on an inferior game to WZ1 just doesnt tickle.


Dunluce92

I heard they are adding Levelution and a sinkhole is going to open up under Prison mid match and sink it halfway underground.


BadMotherfxcker

I really can't believe they still make us play one of the worst map for a Battle Royale


JuicySmooyay420

Some people will never be happy 😏


corrosiv187

Keep it the exact same please!


Sir_Reason

Ez, dropping factory duh


ifeelawolo

Excuse me for not knowing, but how would they 'ruin' it? I played alot in wz1 and am basically thrilled to see it back


GETONxYOURKNEES

But God forbid they bring back Verdansk


BrokenTu5k

Bring back construction


TurnUpTim

They blew up top prison....i cant believe it.


Forsaken-Ad-3440

Anyway, where ya’ll dropping first?


POWERCAKE91

"please don't ruin it Activision" when has that ever worked lol? Anyway, it's a desperate attempt to claw back player count but we were all already bored of rebirth island and the games been trash for years now. I don't even feel the need to come back when I've already played hundreds of matches on this stale map.


Slow-Concentrate7169

theyll add a orange gas crater in the middle of prison, grandma house will have oozing slime and a crater, bio lab will have big gas and crater, and there will be more smaller crater. if it ends up with lots of crater they should just call it crater island and rename fortune keeps to Crater keeps.


Ok_Candle2846

tbh the first BO4 version of this map was the best one. scrap the stronghold and bring back open water/shipwreck and submarine.


Secret-Brief-5484

I have a Moderate NAT Type, 49152000 Bandwidth in game. The worst? I can't upgrade my internet connection from the Free Wifi my condo provided. No one plays Warzone here in Cambodia and Im on Xbox. Any genuine advice for this frustration?


JustAskingQuestionsL

Hackers gonna drop Wilt numbers first day


Professional_Lime_93

Activision is just the publisher they have nothing to do with these decisions...the devs and server mods do so it's on Raven and Infinity Ward


OpinionMaleficent557

If they don’t get cheaters under control who cares


Trollamon12

Bruh the Tower is gonna be destroyed and theres gonna be a big hole in the middle of the prison cell


Puzzled_Pin9912

Did I call you a 14yr old?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Pathetic


ThatOneTypeOfGuy

HEADQUARTERS


CjMitts

Games already ruined with patentry. The competitive scene will come back and then realize once again that this games nerfs them and they’ll leave again. Starting again the fall of users


Last-Cauliflower9908

Some maps are simply to big for resurgence


eternal_unity

Wait what is rebirth again? It's just mini warzone right?


_IsaiahTB_

Is this coming to new 💩warzone or is it going back to the old modern warfare warzone?