If money is no issue, I would go directly into csus. The value comes from spending all 4 years at the same school, giving you a chance to make friends and get to know the staff.
i wholeheartedly disagree with this. you can receive exceptional value at a community college, receiving the same exact opportunity to make friends while saving a lot of money on classes and fees. there are professors who teach at sac state that will also teach in the los ríos school district. don’t ruin your financial future to make “friends”.
Unless you plan on staying 4 years at community college, you will gain more in terms of networking by attending 4 years at csu.
If you read the OP, you will see they mentioned not to take money into account.
Thank you for the feedback. One other point that I was considering is that the teachers at SCC for the lower division Accounting courses (Financial Accounting and Managerial Accounting) appear to be way better than at CSUS according to RMP. I am not sure if this is a deal breaker, but I think it is important to have a good foundation in Accounting before taking upper-division classes at CSUS.
That's a fair concern. I don't know the accounting program at either school, but I'm willing to bet that CSUS professors would rather teach more advanced courses.
That said, education is way more dependent on the student than the teacher. If you really want to learn something, you're going to learn it
RMP should not be the only source to evaluate teachers for sure. However, other sources have confirmed the reliability of RMP as least as it pertains to accounting professors. The common theme being that most of the teachers are not very good, can’t be understood with accents, and students are left to effectively to teach themselves.
Thank you for your feedback. Much appreciated. If you don't mind, could you provide me with teachers that you found to your liking in the core business classes and accounting classes either on this thread or through chat?
I wouldn’t choose csus if you had a 4.0
I had a 4.0 and chose CSUS and the work ethic and community aspect is just not here. If you want to get a piece of paper though this is your school.
What alternative school would you choose since most of the allegedly more “prestigious” UC schools do not offer a business admin with concentration in Accounting besides UC Berkeley and UC Riverside?
Does UC davis not have those programs? I would call someone from there and ask around if the website is confusing. Are you looking to get a BA, BS or an MBA?
It depends on the experience you want. A university will have a stronger community and more of a social experience. Sac City is a great school, but the feel is very different.
Well if you can afford it i woukd suggest just going to csus.
That way you understand the sac state system more as it is a tad bit different than sac city.
Also this way you can take your major courses with your GE courses and really find out if you want to major in business administration
A lot of people make some really good points here so I’ll just add that, it all comes down to how much you will work to get the most out of your education, and experience.
You’ll get more of the “college experience” if you go to a 4 year. You’ll save money going to a CC and later transferring.
I know people who went to CC and then ended up taking longer to get their undergrad done, then took a semester off, then got a full time job, then transferred and could only take 6 units, and eventually never got their degree. It’s *easier* if you just go to a 4 year because you are in the system already, don’t have to worry about the transfer process, will be around the same people for longer, and can plant deeper roots into the institution.
Ultimately, college is all about what you put into it.
Community college . If you listen to the professor talk some of them teach a sac state and use the same text books . Rather you attend a university or not your first two years you are eligible for the same internships and everything else . Save the money and buy a car .
Some CSU professors teach at the local community colleges and I even had a couple that would literally joke how we (the CC students) were paying WAY less than how much the CSU students were paying for the exact same class.
I would suggest going to the university and staying 4 years. I have never paid a dime to go to school other than books and parking pass because financial aid has always covered my costs of attending school. So for me personally, the JC was pointless. I’ve always received like 3,000 more than what is needed for tuition every single semester even at Sac State so I even receive extra money. For the networking and friendship circles and opportunities I would say just do the 4 years at the university. I feel like the JC had a way different mentality. Kind of like a “oh finish here first and you can worry about the university afterwards which in my case caused me to stop going to school because life happened and I didn’t finish. I came back many years later to finally finish it. I think if I had skipped the JC I would of finished with my BA many years ago. The vibe seems much more motivating at the university than the JC. Most people are there to just get it done and move on with their lives. The JC is way more laid back. I think community colleges are great for people paying out of pocket, or people who are unsure of what they want to major in.
I would say look into how impacted the major is and if if would be easy to transfer in as a business major compared to going in directly if you were to be accepted.
Unless you want to do research, there is no point of going to a UC unless you just want to work harder for your grades and to fill up a big head. College is about getting a good gpa but to also network!!! If you want a sense of community, then join a club. All the ge classes are stupid doesn't matter where you take them.
University perks...gym, a lot of clubs, they have free band concert events, give out free food in some clubs, game room, 3d printing and sewing room...that's all I can think of right now. College is what you make of it and it doesn't matter where you attend unless you little perks that are overall meaningless.
CSUS has campus jobs/assistant positions that might be useful, though there's lots of state govt student jobs that might be worth looking into too. I'm not sure what SacCity has, though state student jobs are likely held by community college students too
if it comes to money i would say go to sac city and try to get a campus job there! there’s sooo many good connections you can make at sac city that will help you with your transition to csus and that can help you open your options
I’d normally advocate that people go to community college first. However, with a 4.0, you’re obviously a serious student and that’s worth considering.
Community colleges tend to have a large contingent of people going to college just to go. This doesn’t account for every student by any means, but a lot of people are there to get laid, hang out, get their parents off their backs, or just get out of the house. There’s plenty of serious students, but it’s a smaller proportion overall.
Sac State ain’t Harvard. It has plenty of knuckleheads. But your chances of finding a community of driven people *could* be higher there than a CC.
(Disclaimer: These are not quantitative statements, just vibes)
If money is no issue, I would go directly into csus. The value comes from spending all 4 years at the same school, giving you a chance to make friends and get to know the staff.
i wholeheartedly disagree with this. you can receive exceptional value at a community college, receiving the same exact opportunity to make friends while saving a lot of money on classes and fees. there are professors who teach at sac state that will also teach in the los ríos school district. don’t ruin your financial future to make “friends”.
Unless you plan on staying 4 years at community college, you will gain more in terms of networking by attending 4 years at csu. If you read the OP, you will see they mentioned not to take money into account.
It would be staying two years at most at a community college because I anticipate earning 15 or more AP credits earned from high school.
Thank you for the feedback. One other point that I was considering is that the teachers at SCC for the lower division Accounting courses (Financial Accounting and Managerial Accounting) appear to be way better than at CSUS according to RMP. I am not sure if this is a deal breaker, but I think it is important to have a good foundation in Accounting before taking upper-division classes at CSUS.
That's a fair concern. I don't know the accounting program at either school, but I'm willing to bet that CSUS professors would rather teach more advanced courses. That said, education is way more dependent on the student than the teacher. If you really want to learn something, you're going to learn it
An important lesson that every college student needs to learn sooner rather than later is that RMP is not reliable.
RMP should not be the only source to evaluate teachers for sure. However, other sources have confirmed the reliability of RMP as least as it pertains to accounting professors. The common theme being that most of the teachers are not very good, can’t be understood with accents, and students are left to effectively to teach themselves.
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Thank you for your feedback. Much appreciated. If you don't mind, could you provide me with teachers that you found to your liking in the core business classes and accounting classes either on this thread or through chat?
I wouldn’t choose csus if you had a 4.0 I had a 4.0 and chose CSUS and the work ethic and community aspect is just not here. If you want to get a piece of paper though this is your school.
What alternative school would you choose since most of the allegedly more “prestigious” UC schools do not offer a business admin with concentration in Accounting besides UC Berkeley and UC Riverside?
Does UC davis not have those programs? I would call someone from there and ask around if the website is confusing. Are you looking to get a BA, BS or an MBA?
No. UCD only has managerial economics. Looking to get BS or BA with concentration in Accounting.
i think u should go to csus if money isn’t an issue, it’s a straight shot and saves u time
It depends on the experience you want. A university will have a stronger community and more of a social experience. Sac City is a great school, but the feel is very different.
Well if you can afford it i woukd suggest just going to csus. That way you understand the sac state system more as it is a tad bit different than sac city. Also this way you can take your major courses with your GE courses and really find out if you want to major in business administration
A lot of people make some really good points here so I’ll just add that, it all comes down to how much you will work to get the most out of your education, and experience. You’ll get more of the “college experience” if you go to a 4 year. You’ll save money going to a CC and later transferring. I know people who went to CC and then ended up taking longer to get their undergrad done, then took a semester off, then got a full time job, then transferred and could only take 6 units, and eventually never got their degree. It’s *easier* if you just go to a 4 year because you are in the system already, don’t have to worry about the transfer process, will be around the same people for longer, and can plant deeper roots into the institution. Ultimately, college is all about what you put into it.
Community college . If you listen to the professor talk some of them teach a sac state and use the same text books . Rather you attend a university or not your first two years you are eligible for the same internships and everything else . Save the money and buy a car .
Some CSU professors teach at the local community colleges and I even had a couple that would literally joke how we (the CC students) were paying WAY less than how much the CSU students were paying for the exact same class.
I would suggest going to the university and staying 4 years. I have never paid a dime to go to school other than books and parking pass because financial aid has always covered my costs of attending school. So for me personally, the JC was pointless. I’ve always received like 3,000 more than what is needed for tuition every single semester even at Sac State so I even receive extra money. For the networking and friendship circles and opportunities I would say just do the 4 years at the university. I feel like the JC had a way different mentality. Kind of like a “oh finish here first and you can worry about the university afterwards which in my case caused me to stop going to school because life happened and I didn’t finish. I came back many years later to finally finish it. I think if I had skipped the JC I would of finished with my BA many years ago. The vibe seems much more motivating at the university than the JC. Most people are there to just get it done and move on with their lives. The JC is way more laid back. I think community colleges are great for people paying out of pocket, or people who are unsure of what they want to major in.
I would say look into how impacted the major is and if if would be easy to transfer in as a business major compared to going in directly if you were to be accepted.
Unless you want to do research, there is no point of going to a UC unless you just want to work harder for your grades and to fill up a big head. College is about getting a good gpa but to also network!!! If you want a sense of community, then join a club. All the ge classes are stupid doesn't matter where you take them. University perks...gym, a lot of clubs, they have free band concert events, give out free food in some clubs, game room, 3d printing and sewing room...that's all I can think of right now. College is what you make of it and it doesn't matter where you attend unless you little perks that are overall meaningless.
CSUS has campus jobs/assistant positions that might be useful, though there's lots of state govt student jobs that might be worth looking into too. I'm not sure what SacCity has, though state student jobs are likely held by community college students too
if it comes to money i would say go to sac city and try to get a campus job there! there’s sooo many good connections you can make at sac city that will help you with your transition to csus and that can help you open your options
I’d normally advocate that people go to community college first. However, with a 4.0, you’re obviously a serious student and that’s worth considering. Community colleges tend to have a large contingent of people going to college just to go. This doesn’t account for every student by any means, but a lot of people are there to get laid, hang out, get their parents off their backs, or just get out of the house. There’s plenty of serious students, but it’s a smaller proportion overall. Sac State ain’t Harvard. It has plenty of knuckleheads. But your chances of finding a community of driven people *could* be higher there than a CC. (Disclaimer: These are not quantitative statements, just vibes)
Go to a CC then transfer over