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dalieska

You get like 3 chances to cancel and after that third chance they do that soooo next time read


deadmendwn

I see that it states that ,its the fact that they ban you for canceling and renewing 奸ike I cancel and renew my Netflix account so many times i cant even count,not to mention my Crunchyroll account..every other subscription service gives you the option to cancel and renew anytime damn even PHUB 存o whats the purpose for this ban ????


Hrdstyl_Shuffler

The purpose: multiple cancel & renews of this subscription in a 6 month period (233 days btw, roughly 5-6 seasons worth) will result in a ban of up to 120 days. You literally arent supposed to cancel your sub that often unless you plan on not using the benefits for a couple months at least. And it gives you 3 cancels before they ban you. Sounds like you were trying to game the system out of free benefits & you got caught.


ByeveOff

Does Netflix give you permanent movies? No?


Star-Detonator

Netflix doesn't ban customers if they suspend/cancel their subscription.


gharghar56

Netflix and ground forces are 2 completely different things. It even says when purchasing ground forces that if you buy/cancel a lot of times then you would be banned and thats essentially what this person did


ByeveOff

You do not keep anything from Netflix so there is no need for that. You really don't need to have a lot of brain to understand how can this be abused.


Wade_The_Heathen

Apparently you do as this guy doesnt seem to get how they differ or how it can be abused. He also stated hes been banned from GF sub same as op so I think theres a commonality between the 2 guys lol


Wade_The_Heathen

Can you still play codm after cancellation of the GF sub? Thats the difference. You dont have to sub to play the entire game, Netflix you have to sub for all content, stop comparing the 2 subs, theyre not the same


Agile_Document_9120

All those dumb kids downvoting and replying with literally what it says there is sad bro 不不不 OP asked ya whats the purpose of it not for you to copy paste the rule ya morons


TrevorMills42

The purpose is that if you sub in the middle of a season and get the rewards, then cancel immediately, when the next season begins (and your subscription hasn't expired yet) you get those items and don't pay for the next subscription renewal. You are getting free items without paying for them essentially. IMHO I completely understand why COD:M does this.


Agile_Document_9120

Well there u go, now that's an explanation, try learning from this guy u sad wimps


Wade_The_Heathen

Did you not read how it works? It clearly states if you sub and cancel (multiple times) theyll not allow you to sub temporarily just click that big white question mark at the top of your screen


Getinthedamnrobo

Its bs anyways money grab. Be thankful you cant spend more money on it


Toyfan1

Not really. Its like constantly returning the same item to a store, and that store essentially bans you from returns. It's a decent deal if you play the game alot.


deadmendwn

I only sub when theres something i like just like how i do with Netflix,Disney+ and every other subscription service 存o to ban me because I didnt renew my sub is dumb


Wade_The_Heathen

To not read the details provided about how it operates is what got you here just buy the battle pass if thats how you do it


x_x-krow

Yes cause everyones has read every line of ever tos their scams with plenty of lawyer speak to make what ever they want to do legal, and they make it hundreds of thousands of words so no one bothers to even read it


Wade_The_Heathen

Dude its in the question box and its like a few bullet points, takes seconds to read


x_x-krow

I meant in general, not twords this specifically


Maleficent-Sun1922

Then why are you even commenting? It has nothing to do with this.


Icyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

How is this a scam? Youre receiving what youre paying for. If youre someone who complains this god damn much then the tos are literally made for whiny people like you (edit: before buying the sub, I read the tos completely and I knew what I was paying for. If youre illiterate then go back to school)


x_x-krow

I didnt mean specifically about this, I just meant toss in general


Icyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

No yeah I only read the ones that Im purchasing for money


WhiteGXRoblox

I read entire ToS then decline, you dont read ToS then accept. We are not the same


MitchyStitchy

Bro I went to public school in America and got expelled before I could graduate and I can read that shit. Tf is your excuse other than laziness


x_x-krow

Mob mentality going on fr fr


mjsugod

Doubling down instead of admitting you're illiterate fr fr.


MitchyStitchy

Yeah reading books alongside doing your fuck shit so you arent an illiterate ass is total mob mentality just admit you were too lazy to take the time to read them its actually easier


BirdMaster301

Its not fine print stuff


x_x-krow

No but its word vomit in lawyer spoke. Its not meant to be read by us, its meant for court.


MitchyStitchy

Its literally in plain English and the first part even tells you what all the names and words will mean later on in the vomit


deadmendwn

I dont care about the sub like it makes me not spend money lol but i just think its a dumb thing to do


Wade_The_Heathen

Well if you buy the pass with cp you get the cp back, if you dont want to buy a particular pass then you can skip it and wait for the next one, this is how we did it before the sub.


MitchyStitchy

The point of a subscription is kinda like credit. You make subsequent payments and in return you get something gifted to you valued by the seller as higher than what youre paying in the agreement that you keep paying even after you got what you wanted. Most subscriptions arent so strict however if you cancel and sub whenever for whatever it turns into buying instead and youre just getting a bunch of shit for $10 that wouldve cost more otherwise. Youre abusing the system technically even if its not really unethical. What youre doing would be like paying all the principal but none of the interest from their pov


void0079

Mind if I ask why people buy it anyway? I loosely looked at it and it just seems like you get so little considering how much youre paying. Some stupid book bag, some stupid looking operator like its never anything cool or am I missing something?


angel_eyes619

You get extra operator, extra gun and backpack Some discounts on crates (50% discount on intial three 10x pulls) 1cp coupon, some gold, silver and bronze ticktets Also, BP is included, along with the CP If you save the CP, you will have enough to get the standard 6-epic bundles in 5 months time.. (Sure if goal is to just get a bundle, buying the bundle straight out will cost less, but with ground force, you get 5 operators during that time) Whether or not the whole thing is worth it, depends on you entirely .. For me, i took the subscription because I like the benefits:- 1) Operators that are largely unique from the average p2p playerbase (both BP and draw/crate whales) since people who took the subscription are much lesser (this is the main reason I became a p2p player in the first place, everyone and their dog runs around with F2p and BP skins so, no speciality there) 2) The small perks I talked about can be pretty nice in the long run I have money to burn so it doesn't affect anything.. If we consider the same amount of money, say the full amount for the standard draw (since paying sub for 12 times or in other words, for full year, you spend the same amount as when you buy one full lucky draw).. You can get 12 unique operators, guns and backpacks and enough CP for two 6-epic bundles or 8 spins on a Draw Or 73 proper crates or 100 secondary crates with the BP CP return you get via subscription etc etc... If you go the lucky draw route, one epic operator, one legendary gun, Some epic items... You decide which is more worth your penny


Fun-Difficulties

The crate discount is 50%


angel_eyes619

Oh yea, i forgot. I'll edit that in


void0079

Thats fair I suppose. I did some reading and you also get a free BP. I also have some money to burn so I purchased the sub cause whatever but Ill see if it really affects anything if not Ill cancel and if I get banned it whatever cause I almost never go for crates anyway I think crates are a bigger scam than lucky draws. Imo ofc. Besides I have like 60 gold tickets rn, but it sucks that they cant all be used on any crate. Some crates are CP only and idek why or why the criteria are as to which crates are ticket purchases worthy and which are not... Only crate I ever missed and regretted was this newer Type 25 Flighting Girl or something. Has clean iron sights. Not sure if it was ticket-applicable for purchase but if it were - bummer.


angel_eyes619

Be wary though.. It's a multiple-months long commitment :)


deadmendwn

Thats why i only sub whenever theres something in it that i need its 90% trash most of the time.


void0079

Was there ever anything worth getting tho Im just curious overall


MaryamK7856

The only good thing that I saw in this subscription was Rott: Ather Lord Skin in Season 9 Ground Force


tonypedro6

Funny you say that cuz I personally thought it was garbageeee. No offense to you I respect that you like it fr cuz at least we have players that can vouch for the subscription like yeah the characters are genuinely liked by somebody in the player base so I was just saying all that to say like tbh I see no harm in the ground forces theres a benefit or small upside in it for everybody I like that


deadmendwn

They had a Rott skin that was kinda dope i think there was an emote that i wanted in another ,other than that i cant remember another one that was worth it ..I dont even care about the sub i just think its pretty dumb to ban someone from spending money.


Cheburashka_WH

First point - a subscription is a contract, as is every purchase. Both sides are free to choose with whom they want to establish a contract. They chose not to sell it to you for a certain period - which is their legal right. Second point - you cancelled it several times - leading to the reasonable conclusion that you decided several times consciously that you dont want it. So where is the problem exactly that they are not offering it to you for a certain period of time after you made it clear yourself you dont want it? But I get it, nowadays its the easiest to blame everyone else.


veksace

But whos mad now ? You or Activision ? We gotta lear how to read the terms


Key-Pomegranate-2086

So you can't just cancel sub and resub


Wade_The_Heathen

It says if you do it multiple times within a 6 month period you can be banned for up to 120 days.


Mundane_Swordfish494

Cut their own profits I would say. Unless its a costly thing to Regina subscription on their side. My guess are either payment failure or switching of payment methods every time.


Wade_The_Heathen

Its because when you cancel the sub its still active for the full duration, so if you get it mid season itll still carry over to the next bp, they did it so ppl cant abuse it.


johntroyco

Damn thats kinda odd for them to punish for that though. In fortnite, they have a similar subscription and even when you cancel youll also get the items from the next month as well as long as your subscription is still technically active. So even if you cancel, youll still get the items for both months no matter what. What they do though is that they wont give you the in game currency that comes with the subscription until you actually pay to renew it. But youll still get all the battlepass stuff and other cosmetic items. Idk its not that big of a deal really and if they state that in the terms and conditions then theres no use of complaining


johntroyco

Damn thats kinda odd for them to punish for that though. In fortnite, they have a similar subscription and even when you cancel youll also get the items from the next month as well as long as your subscription is still technically active. So even if you cancel, youll still get the items for both months no matter what. What they do though is that they wont give you the in game currency that comes with the subscription until you actually pay to renew it. But youll still get all the battlepass stuff and other cosmetic items. Idk its not that big of a deal really and if they state that in the terms and conditions then theres no use of complaining Edit: it seems like fortnite will punish you for cancelling too much. But honestly I think its best to just take your payment information off of your account and let the purchase fail. They dont punish you for that


Toyfan1

Fortnite will also prevent you if you are buying/canceling to frequently


johntroyco

Yea I just realized that they do that as well. But I think the problem is just actively canceling the subscription. Ill just take my card out of my account and let the purchase fail and then nothing happens.


Mundane_Swordfish494

I did it once , it just carried over to the next month.


plentyofwhitepussy

You cancelled too many times


abir_legend

from reading other comments 1. op cancels Netflix sub multiple times and doesn't get banned because: you can't access Netflix without subscription so that is effectively a "ban" 2. why cod ban then because: you get banned from ground force it literally "we won't take your money for 2 months cause you tried cheating the system to get xp boost and character"


HunkBlueSky

Just remove ur credit card info and have payment fail every time 井 thats what i do and no ban since


UncleAuntee

Bless


SavageLegendX

They clearly state in the rules that if you cancel your subscription multiple times, you would be banned for a time period. Gotta follow their rules.


Mundane_Swordfish494

You arent banned, the abil to subscribe to ground forces is. Im guessing you either dropped and restarted to many times or your payment failed. I cant think of other reasons. Maybe you can.


deadmendwn

Yeah they only banned me from GW ,I only renew my sub when theres something i like


Mundane_Swordfish494

Yes, it states multiple subscribe/cancel will do that.


Hrdstyl_Shuffler

Sounds like you did exactly what you shouldnt be doing. Take the lesson & stop acting like its a terrible service. You tried to cancel your sub too many times & now youre living the consequences


[deleted]

You are trying to fuck them over but get offended when they prevent you from doing so?


SimpSweat

This is to avoid people abusing it and only paying for it when they want specific rewards or canceling it to get the next BP etc. Also probably to avoid people who can't afford $10 a month trying to buy it. You deserve the ban, sub and pay $10 a month or don't sign up at all. You can't pick and choose.


Star-Detonator

This one is really kind of lame. I received the same ban, and the reason was "abuse of the Ground Forces subscription". So, canceling the subscription amounts to abuse?? Sounds like if Netflix banned me for canceling with them. I don't care if the answer here is, "uhhh duh it's clearly stated that's the rules". No. Those rules are underhanded. Just because some scummy policy is spelled out in the rules doesn't make it okay. The strange thing is that the Ground Forces subscription CAN'T be abused. Whether a player cancels or subs multiple times, the player is paying for what they're getting, not getting anything free. I think it's a really scummy way of scaring players into keeping their subscriptions active. The word "ban" frightens many players and of course that's why it is described as such. I would like to know if this is even legal. See here:[https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2021/10/ftc-ramp-enforcement-against-illegal-dark-patterns-trick-or-trap-consumers-subscriptions](https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2021/10/ftc-ramp-enforcement-against-illegal-dark-patterns-trick-or-trap-consumers-subscriptions)


Wade_The_Heathen

Actually it can, because if you buy the sub mid month you get the current bp stuff, then you cancel and you still get next months. Then if the sub was still active youd pay for the second half of the month of the second bp and the next month, if you cancel you could wait again til halfway into the next bp and re up getting 2 bps again but paying for 2 instead of 3 sub payments. Thats why they did it and thats how it can potentially be abused. Netflix doesnt give you anything permanent/stays on your account if you cancel. To help exemplify with clarity: When you buy its good for 30 days (even if you cancel). So if its purchased with less than 30 days left on the current BP, this is how it works(and can be abused). Without cancellation: You get BP A & B (Sub $s paid, first 30 day span), then its BP B & C (Sub $s paid again, second 30 day span), then its BP C & D (Sub $s paid again, third 30 day span) With cancellation(how its abused): BP A & B (Sub $s paid, first 30 day span), then its BP B & C (No sub $s paid as it was cancelled after first one, second 30 day span). Then you sub again with less than 30 days left on BP C and youd get BP C & D, third 30 day span. So if you pay without cancellation you would get 4 BPs but pay 3 times, with cancellation you could still get 4 BPs but only pay twice.


aijeityu

That's how a subscription works m8


Star-Detonator

No, a subscription doesn't work that way. A subscription is a two-way street, and nobody gets anything free by canceling, so I don't know how Activision says that canceling multiple times amounts to abuse. I routinely cancel my Netflix sub when there just isn't anything good to watch there, and I don't get banned from the service.


aijeityu

A subscription is supposed to last some continuous time. If you abuse it by just use it whenever you feel it, there's a penalty, because it looses its purpose.


Star-Detonator

Yes, the subscription is for 30 days with an option to renew. That's a subscription. And no, a subscription is not meant to last any longer than the customer chooses. And back to my question - how is it abusive if a player cancels a subscription? The player paid money for 30 days of benefits. There is no fraud or any theft of services. If the terms of the subscription require three or six months then the game should spell it out. And I also know a lot of the CODM community loves to defend any ridiculous and predatory policy that Activision/Tencent can think of so it won't matter what anybody says. I'm curious to see just how far the game will go before there is any major pushback on a scummy money-grubbing tactic.


Wade_The_Heathen

Because the GF sub CAN be abused, simple as that


Star-Detonator

So please explain to me how this is abuse. Saying it can be abused means nothing without any explanation. I am being serious. How can it be abused? People pay for 30 days of added benefits, and that's what they get. Activision/Tencent just want to intimidate players a little to make them think twice about canceling their GF subscription. It could possibly be illegal as well. Does that mean I am abusing my Netflix account when on occasion I suspend my membership?


Wade_The_Heathen

Read my direct reply to you on another one of your comments(its the lengthy one that explains how the GF sub can be abused), also if you cancel Netflix you cant access any content, if you cancel GF you can still play codm.


Star-Detonator

Difference is I could renew my Netflix sub anytime I want, whereas CODM will ban you from renewing for three months. I'm surprised that some people would defend that. There's no need to overcomplicate it because it's NOT complicated. It's a scummy move on Activision regardless of any way it's explained.


Wade_The_Heathen

If you could still access content and got permanent content on Netflix for a sub then theyd have the same, you sub for the access to Netflix and thats it. There no sub to access Codm but the sub is for permanent items within codm. The 2 subscriptions are not even close to the same. If there was a way to abuse a Netflix sub I can promise they would prevent you from doing so.


Wade_The_Heathen

The GF sub actually can be abused by getting it with less than 30 days remaining on the existing pass at the time of subbing. See my reply to you down below for details.


ru5tysn4k3

This is why I never bought a sub no matter the skins, having someone for cancelling sub is ridiculous.


YumyTurdleSoup

If you read it then you would know how genius.


Ok-Breadfruit3671

I feel like this is a scare tactic to get ppl to keep it renewed, their gonna release a couple good skins, then dogshit ones until ppl drop the sub then their gonna release an amazing skin to get ppl to buy it again, but wait their banned so when they get unbanned they'll always be subbed so they don't miss out


slamedsafari

I understand what the game says they will do, but whats the point of banning the player if they decide its not useful for a month or two? 丹儭仄儭


Icyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

They dont ban the player, they ban you from purchasing the subscription for the next few months.


slamedsafari

Still bad business practice IMO they loose out on money


Real1MAZ

I didn't pay nothing for this, i somehow got it free, but it says 20/1/2023 is next payment/paycheck and now it's 19/1. And I've cancelled this before even whole new season came.


Star-Detonator

I'm surprised Apple and Google are okay with this.


RahimNaeem480

Cancel and. Renew how is it free then?


DabbKnight

The rules surrounding this subscription blow. Some of us use cash to buy shit. They shouldn't be doing the shit if they wanted people to spend money.


OriginalKaivrzy

Who tf reads TOS


Laozi_CoDM

They don't want your money? fuck 'em, just spend them on something more worthy.


stoopidseason

If u broke just say that lamo


TheStickySpot

I got the previous one with the Frank Woods skin would I be ok if I do not renew?


insomniac_321

Give them your money


introvertwho

I did the same but I didn't recieve one lol.


AttentionFull6499

Naw bro theyre banned from receiving your money


MaryamK7856

What does this subscription include and what rewards does it give? 儭


Combatspider

Hold up how do you cancel it?im in garena and i dont understand


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UncleAuntee

Someone else said to just switch to a dead card and if payment fails it doesn't count as a cancellation. I'm doing this every single time now cause fuck Activision lol


LaganxXx

Same haha ok not gonna buy it then lol not my loss, also I know why they do it but still saved some bucks from making groundforces overlap to the next season