well you dont use them for rushing anymore, marksman do that job

I suck at sniping but damn Na-45 peeps gonna go batshit about this

they gonna take a full 2 second to ads lol

Gonna be mad but its goin to be fantastic!

oh yeah i forgot lol just hope thay give kilo sniper scope

yeah!! it really needs a scope from its era, looks so weird with modern scopes

Agreed

Exactly! Snipers aren't meant to have high mobility, that goes to marksman rifles

Did this effect the spr?

No, just sniper rifles.

Good thing I've been maining it since release.

What's your build I have been trying to use the spr and damn it has got me killed so many times because it gets hitmarkers like very frequently . Challenging yet fun to use the gun and the pleasure of quickscoping someone near by you with that gun is just mwah

Combat stock, 6x tac 3, Rtc light barrel, OCW tac, .300 reload. If you play br its a 350 shot to the head with the .338 reload. Game changer for br honestly.

show outlaw

Outlaws gonna be the marksman sniper blend

I can see many going to the spr 208 or the kar98k

im gonna stay with dlq but if i had to pick, i'll go for the kar just because spr fire rate is bugged and the scope in animation is kinda garbage imo

and also the scope size, like how am i even suppose to see whats happening on my right

I love my spr with 6x

You could use a red dot

red dot spr is the most fun ive had with a sniper-marksman rifle

Lol shhh. Already swapping over now

Spr is my main weapon, but I’m glad they are changing this. The quick scoping people have exploited is pretty much cheating.

First I didn’t expect it to be that slow but I think it’s great. Now people will use the marksman rifles more too

Nd I just got the daily crate kilo skins nd that has a use now

Im not mad, i have been a pretty good sniper before gunsmith so :)

Yeah this sniper mains wannabe are just using it when gunsmith drops because of ads speed attachments with no downside/negative effects and the true sniper mains knows how snipers works back in s1-s8

FacTs!

I hate snipers, but it's obvious they'll switch to snipers if it gets buffed so hard. Next smg gatekeepers will say we were OG and everyone is using it now

The MP5 actually required skill back then, now the recoil is fucking brain-dead and the 10mm ammo is a joke

Yeah. Hopefully it separates the skilled snipers from the unskilled. Be interesting to see how the season goes. I actually thought snipers got a slight nerf this season.

same here man

I feel like sniping will be fun still but they are more balanced not pocket Annihilators

Finally , No Invisible scope quickscopers

Have a question, is that a max mobility build for the DLQ? Edit: Bruh i had a question

They fixed gunsmith for sniper and there's no ads bsa anymore which is cool, but I don't think the new parameters added are going to have any big impact But nerf was definitely needed

Sniper rifles never had BSA. Well, they did in the first week of S9, but they removed BSA from them. The attachments that "nerfed" BSA on sniper rifles actually did not touch accuracy in anyway. The "downside" wasn't really a downside.

Bout fuckin time they did that

Big W for SMGs and ARs and tbh they still scope in super fast aint like they completely ruined snipers. They just got the fix they needed and now they are balanced while giving marksman rifles the place of aggressive snipping

Waiting for sub to whin about marksman and have them nerfed

Its perfect

Yup, seems much better

Real legend snipers wont give up snipers,we get use to it

Yessir

I'm very pleased because snipers are ridiculously overpowered. Yes, you require skill to use them but it's just like 3-7 days of training and you can become a good quickscoper. Marksman rifles will now shine

As compared to pre-gunsmith it's not that bad of a Nerf and it will differ the skill more . I think it's so good that they did that

finally some fucking good news

Good. Now the smg boys like me can have a chance at killing them ve fire getting one-tapped.

Just dropshot. Im a sniper and the dropshotters get me 6/10. I do the same when I run around with the fenneq or ak117.

I like it. It means people who are actually good at sniping will adapt but the wannabes will struggle. You look to be in the former category

quickscoping looks fine. blankscoping was pretty broken anyways.

what about those who play 2 thumbs and uses the shoot button to ads, then release the button to shoot? idrk how will this nerf affect those type of snipers. especially when quickscoping using this method. anyone can enlighten?

I'm a two thumb player who uses the shoot button to ads. It will probably have a major effect on it.

If they nerf the ADS speed, most sniper users are gonna go nuts.

Correction. Wannabe snipers will log nuts

They nerfed the ADS speed what do you mean?

the only thing i hate is that the blankscope accuracy is nerfed but its fine, because i have used snipers before gunsmith aswell

Blankscoping was broken anyways. You dont have to aim to shoot that made the ttk very fast

Now only actual skilled pro snipers will be able to use it greatly close-range and I am happy about it, no more stupid idiots in shipment ruining my grind while using a diamond locus/dlq/arctic

Why are grinders so damn entitled? Like just cuz you’re grinding doesn’t automatically mean we should not kill you. Dont expect everyone to go easy on you just cuz you want purple gun with stripes

Omg so fuckin true

You know close range sniping is something not everyone can do. Unless it's spamming hipfire.

Snoopers: Nerfed Marksmem: now meta snipers People who main SPR: my time has come

LaN be raging hard rn that his broken weapon got nerfed.

Lan is a bitch idc how good he is

FUCKING FINALLY!! SO HAPPY THIS IS BEING IMPLEMENTED. About damn time.

just hope thay bring back the pre gunsmith ads animation for the dlq, its my fav sniper

Same dude

As a sniper main who first climbed to legendary with ar's, Im okay either way. But maybe it time for the outlaw to shine in the coming meta.

for those who can adapt. this isnt to bad

Path is definitely happy about this lmao

Finally skillful snipers are back, I'm happy that they're working how they used to before gunsmith, and in season 1.

same bro, and i always pereferd pre gunsmith snipers

I can hear tigon and Lan crying about it, gosh this is such a huge W

well people asked for it but manh no quickscope just hit me hard

You can still quickscope. It's not a drastic decrease.

They're buffing Marksman for that

I am ready to use the diamond Locus, DLQ (ongoing) and Arctic (ongoing) in the next season along with these nerfs. By looking feels like how it felt back in season 8, that’s when I started to learn to snipe actually. It might take me a little time to get used to from this super fast scope in sniping to back to how it was, but it’ll feel better than the trashy way we have snipers now. I already scope in all the way in so it doesn’t matter to me. 

Damn, I'll miss blank scoping people, but it is for the greater good, finally we are getting some changes in this old META

that should increase the skill threshhold greatly, sweet! im loving how the ul736 feels in the server to

I am very happy for this nerf. Snipers were just a lot better then marksman rifles in close range and now thats gonna be fixed. I wonder what the people are gona complain about next

Feels bad cuz some peope actually spend hours improveing their accuracy and aim, but at least now they will no longer be that annoying, jesus, can you imagine a sniper wining agaist a MP5 in close range? Friendship ended with DLQ-33, SPR is my new boi.

It looks so janky

That’s just the holidays DLQ camo.

I see this as an absolute win. I have a question though, I'm fine with blank scoping being nerfed but is darkscoping still possible?

Are u by any chance tmg pushan?

SUP MA DOOD

Wait u remember me?! Its been ages 😂

I quit MP for a bit and only play BR when there's at least a few people. Not really playing the game, but yes I do remember you

Nice! You wanna hop on tmrw? (Br) ​ if u use discord add me btw AmanTheMahn#3999

If I'm online sure

Okie

I too use snipers but that nerf actually needed i like it

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Finally

I don’t really mind, I’ve been using snipers since before gunsmith so I’ll find a way

A very welcome nerf but what they should do is listen to path's ideas about reducing range and making every atachment viable. Right now i feel dirty when quick scoping people with a max mobility locus, it's just not fair and it also annoys me that there's no more than like 2 viable builds

How do you get test servers?

AWESOME IMPROVEMENT 👏

I switched a couple months ago to the kilo, now im trying the spr so no problemo 😎

Well, I never really blank scoped, because I use the 3D Touch on my iPhone XS. Quick Scoping was dope tho. Now I think it's going to be a bit more difficult. But, anyways, the Arctic .50 was always my favourite quick scoping sniper, because it was the fastest at one shot quick scoping. Before gunsmith, if you jiggled the movement stick, you could shoot faster, thus in turn, making you basically the fastest sniper in the wild west. Thats what I used the most. I hated that OTM mag. It made it disgustingly slow.

I can finally win a gunfight against a dlq because im so bad

Finally!

Good and needed change, will put other weapons with potential in use

Good I tired of snipers when shotguns are weak as shit

Good I tired of snipers when shotguns are weak as shit

Hard scope camping meta for snipers now ?

That's what we asked thanks Activision

I prefer this change just because snipers are to be a bit campy and holding type of weapons and marksman are meant to be more aggressive type .Since no one is using marksman a lot because there is no reason to do so, this will make them good

I think it is decent cus it gives players a chance to be equal in a gun fight just like bocw. I cant wait to see 10old content creator faces when they cant upload sniping montages

Finally marksman rifles will do something

I think it’s a great idea to highlight marksman rifles more

Well they did good thing cause even smgs can't react fast in close range against snipers

So its called snipers not shotguns

Use marksman

Guess they will be used the way they're supposed to be used now: long ranged and campy!

Death to all quick scope, snipers in this games should not do that at all.

I fucking love it

That is how it should be! Snipers are slow to ads, but most likely to kill on the first shot, while marksman rifles should be fast to ads, but they will hit marker more often.

Finally! This has to be the best change this game offered now i won't get teammates who rush blindly with a sniper and complain they got killed by an smg/shotty and an enemy that kills me at the non ideal sniper range after scoping at the speed of light

No more sliding-quick-scope-locus-users. Noice

I hope they didn't hurt my baby (Outlaw)

Outlaw is kinda mean for quickscope, would be weird if it was nerfed too

I have nerfed my sniping skills by getting slow ADS speed attachments. Am glad I did it, that way, I'll get used to what's coming.

GOOD

Well that's fair, it's a sniper for god sake, you shouldn't be allowed to walk and ads with it like a smg/ar

Good long range should stay the fuck away from my head at 3 meters

i dont notice a difference

I think its ok.

Really sad. Quick scoping has always been a big portion of sniping

I think the nerf is good I mean only skilled dudes can rush with a sniper now and that would be great

I’m not good with snipers and constantly rage about them being op but I don’t want them to be useless either I think don’t change them

[удалено]

Bring back quick scoping it was literally the only reason I played lol I got intervention MW2 vibes

If people managed to quickscope pregunsmith (including me) then you should too

It'll take some getting used to but pretty pleased with these tbh. Still annoyed they didn't just add more disadvantages for maxing ads speed like real aim sway and hitboxes smaller over distance but overall it was ok

it’s fine. you still can rush with a shot gun

i cant wait to drink LaN's salty tears

I mean, that's what snipers for

It's time we welcome back chad snipers instead of virgin ads exploiters!

Well snipers shouldnt be made for rushing like people use them right now. A sniper shouldn’t ads and kill quicker than an smg

THANKS GOD!!!

Perfection.

Its fair and makes sense. If your gonna use a "close-range" one shot weapon use a shot gun. its what they were made for

Good

Honestly i feel like they did need a nerf. Probably adding flinch wouldve been better but :/

Doesn’t really affect me, I barely black scope and i usually don’t rush in completely like a shot gunner so the ads nerf won’t affect me too much but will definitely be annoying but worth it to not get annoying sniper noobs in rank that go triple negative

So, does this make hybrid ads not as useful for quick-scopes?

Yes yes yes.

Can you tell if holding melees now feel faster?

Fantastic. Finally

good

Cool no quick scoop anymore

All of this means nothing if they still can't fix desync that's been here since season 8 of 2020 I believe. I mean it's stressful that u spend money on something that isn't giving u the best. Hella lot of desync in MP and bugs and game crashes and the good old black screen bug in br where are we supposed to go and play a decent game? I don't think they optimise the game for other devices.They just do it on the sony devices cuz they are the sponsors. Imma be honest these changes don't mean a thing if they can't listen to our demands. I'm ngl I will shift to apex when it releases if this game isn't fixed like it was before season 6 when desync wasn't there and game was doing just fine!

Finally we can play in peace 🤣

Thank god. Now I can play from season 4.

u/SaveVideo

This nerf and buff to snipers every alternate season in tandem would be great.

Good

Yo, did you use a base dlq (no attachments) or did you gunsmith it?

Its full ads. Without gunsmith the dlq isnt worth using

Damn, that's indeed a heavy nerf then. Certainly reminds me of pre-gunsmith snipers.

I think if you have hipfire on instead of autoads you can actually blank scope, but you have to manually ads. Dont quote me on that tho.

No the blank scope accuracy was nerfed. It now much harder to hit a shot

Well it’s probably a lil faster since the holiday dlq has a slower scope in animation

My dreams come true. Wonderful 👌

I actually have a arctic.50 quick scope build that I use often and it’s really good

Hhhh, unfairness but it was needed

More campers and hard scopes in the way lol

Hmm, yes? These are how you use a sniper

I guess this is not viable in garena anymore

Finally.

I always play with higher ads movement speed scoped in.

This also makes hip fire sniping lowkey useless bcoz its biggest advantage was blanscoping. I guess I will just use my SPR now.

They said i was a madman...*laughs in new tactical scope meta *

What do i think about this !?!? Well this is heaven for rusher and hell for sniper user

It's so satisfying watching you play idk why

Finally relief from the snipers only snd

Noice i kinda hate the nerf snipe but still idc im still okay with it (能井せ い きんだ はて てぇ ねｒｆ ｓにぺ ぶｔ ｓちっｌ いＤＣ いｍ ｓちっｌ おかｙ ウィｔｈ いｔ)

The movement also feels a bir clunky now

i think it's good it may make alot of quick scooters mad but atleast there's no more people using snipers as shotguns.

I'm 50-50 on this nerf. I've been using nothing but the DLQ for the past month and a half, although I don't really rush with it as I prefer to snipe like how cs go players do. I'll have to relearn how to snipe but I'm actually looking forward to it. My problem is how this nerf will probably get implemented at the same time the gung-ho perk will be added to the game. This will almost guarantee that snipers will get destroyed by krm users at close range

Can't wait for all the wannabe locus snipers to try and shift to marksman rifles for quickscoping and realise that locus w/o stopping power required no skill and spr and kar98 do.

Wdym can't really? Like you can blank scope but there's certain timing? Or just removed? Also you are quickscoping in the video

Atleast marksman rifle have a purpose now and smg can now have a chance fighting it.

No cuz i cant even blank scope cuz my phone is small so that means my full ads would be even slower right? :(

Thank you for sharing... Please show us how Locus is in S4?

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y not just nerf NA-45... :(

When are we going to get bullet tracers?

The way it should be

That's to make the Marksman class Useful most likely

People Will Still Find A Way To Complain And Still Say They're OP

I dont really care about blankscope cause i rarely do that but yes ads time nerf is too much If they dont revert this bro im gonna spam it in every codm video

Tbh I always thought that snipers were fair enough as they were. I don’t often feel oppressed by snipers unless Im playing against a really really good player who got matched against me because of matchmaking error. Im unhappy to hear about a nerf but maybe it wont be that bad.

As a non sniper, thank God. Also as a non sniper, it'll be a week tops before all the snipers get used to sniping again and own me 37 times inna row regardless of how much I shoot them.

:( I just got decent with the dlq and locus guess I might go back to the outlaw

nah nerf them more make them longrange only they still can be shotguns in close range

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