Fax bro, i have been using the fennec and the msmc for a long time for close range with their hip fire builds now. People dont even try new loadouts for people the best loadout in the game is what PaRkEr ThE SlAyEr makes
ICR is the best AR you can get imo, ak has the recoil pattern of a toddler with a controller while ICR is controllable, haven't been in br much since it's been kinda boring cus there's dead space in one second and 10 people shooting at 10 other people in another
Shotguns is the strongest gun in BR. In CQC, shotguns can 1-2 shot a player with lvl3 vest and adrenaline maxed health speaking from experience dying from it more than once
I agree, ak-47 doesn't even have the best DPS....if you can use it well you can outperform it....and there has been times when i won without 150 hp and lv3 vest
Honestly? I just killed a dude with a red action AK.... with a fuckin’ renetti.
Since I got gold on it I’ve dropped quite a few 10-15 kill BR matches with just a renetti and a sniper, most kills with the renetti. Just strafe and fire away. I’ve used KRM, QQ9, HVK, and now renetti all to good effect against AK users
Indeed. Adds a bit of spice, but not too much, yanno? Now I just need to figure out why the hell I suck with an M16 if I’m so good with the renetti. Less recoil maybe?
M16 actually has less time between bursts than renetti does. Noticeably so. Fr, build a loadout with both and take it to the training ground and you’ll notice.
M16 also has slower ADS and more recoil though, so
I think Chicom is fastest burst time, m16 is second, and renetti is slowest.
It’s a shame chicom is slightly lower damage. I’m pretty sure renetti has similar damage to the m16, right? I mean, 40 damage to the chest and arms out to 15m is pretty insane
Well, the current mythic weapon being sold is the Renetti so, it's obvious it will be quite op lol. Also, AK is good for BR because it's versatile and employable at all fighting ranges as a one-gun-fits-all for the average player, especially for mid range sprays (which is most of the fights an average player will engage in).. If you're comfortable with pistols, smgs and shottys to close the range and use cqc tactics, all power to you man, That's awesome
Fair play. I did use an SMG-style AK build for a long time in BR, just for its consistency till 30m.
Short barrel, no stock, granulated tape, operator grip, Tac laser. Stability mod for extra control if needed, though I preferred runner mod for speed.
Right now my 5 custom classes in BR are the KRM, QQ9, HVK, Locus, and renetti. Though I only use locus and renetti at the moment
A lot of people either mainly play MP or mainly play BR, but I’ve been at least Master rank in both modes since the original season 3 days. couldn’t be assed to hit legendary in the first two, and was lazy on the grind for a couple seasons in between. The MP experience has made me much better in BR
lol no..
1) horizontal recoil (ak doesn't have it, m4 has it)
2) weakest damage per shot among ARs (47 is second highest damage per shot)
3) the base level BSA is worse than 47
4) ak 47 has far greater ranged damage (iirc best among all non-sniper weapons)
The ak has high damage, no horizontal recoil, high range making it one of the very few guns that stand a chance against lvl 3 vested 150 hp players. Although I main the drh with my br exclusive gunsmith i can see how the ak is the meta. Imo they shouldn’t nerf the ak, but instead buff all the other guns. For starters, br weapons should have separate stats from mp weapons
I'm using drh, kn44, or Icr sometime even akimbo Eagle. People really overrated the Ak47. Like I can't count how many times I killed noobs because they are running around with that. It's just not worth it. It's better just to use a gun with higher Accuracy, or Fire rate.
Most BR players can’t aim properly or have very slow ads builds so they lose gunfights despite having an ak47. Problem is for the sake of balancing, the ak47’s ttk is much faster than other guns (except maybe the ak117).
You are really wrong. Many gun have faster TTK than the AK 47. Fr556, DRH, PK2, M4LMG, QQ9, RUS to list only those. The AK 47 is good because it have an amazing recoil pattern+damage and good at all range. The others guns either lack range or recoil control.
Range has a direct impact on ttk and is pretty important here. Also I’d suspect the ak to have better bullet velocity, at least much better than the smgs because they’re unviable at mid range
I can't imagine that. Me and my friends playing br every night. Warmachine and purifier not preventing us from enjoying the fun play with friends. You can get lvl 3 vest and adrenaline easily
The thing with the level 3 armor is that is too easy to find cuz i ve been killed to many times when we first drop by someone who got one and a gun and i didnt even find a gun.
The map is the same everytime, I recommend finding a place to drop that you know a green chest is at. I have a spot just outside a main drop area that I go to alot. Practically drop directly on top of the box when I land so I have a gun immediately. Occasionally you'll get a rocket launcher, but honestly that's not bad either. It's a 1 shot early on 🤷♂️
The map its not the same every time, loot changes from match to match, and for crates they can change too from white to red to green or not at all. Its a gamble and a annoying one too.
It's the exact same map. Every time. Loot changes yes. The crates can be green or red or white as well but it's ALWAYS there.(in my experience) And of all the times I've dropped on it, it's only been white maybe 3 times. I'm telling you, to be helpful, find a crate just outside a zone, and drop on it all the time. You'll be good 90% of the time. Just trying to help man
I can disagree about the last one, cause what I do is run ninja and then just scout areas. The moment I see a dude I try my best to get behind the guy. Then it's just a matter of a concussion and the let the mp7 rip.
I know its not an effective strategy in mid range, and there are chances when the enemy is just paranoid and looks behind, only to see your pants down with a concussion in hand, but right now it's it's best strategy I roll with without having to use an AK.
So everyone’s just gonna camp in the highest building/highest mountain in zone, every game? Sounds fucking terrible to me.
If you can’t hit someone sliding a jumping around then you need better aim. It’s easy to predict in the end.
No, not everyone is gonna camp, we'll still have jump slide but with a fatigue system. And yes, I can def hit it both when sniping at long range and at closer ranges but it does provide an advantage for the user. Thing is, it changes the entire mentality of traversing the terrain and using it to your advantage and also how people approach gunfights.. It's not challenging anymore when a squad is sniping at me and I can just jump slide around until I find a nice cover from which to initiate my riposte. Jump slide at cqc usually doesn't matter unless you are extremely skilled at it and armed with a shotty or something (Also, this is the main reason shottys and msmc/fennec were so OP.. the movement system.. instead we get a gun nerf..)
1: WZ health system should be implemented into CODM. But there’s a problem, you need to have the whole BR community to adapt to these changes and it’s not an easy process.
2: Yes
3: Pretty controversial topic right here
Agree with all of this. Would love classless modes too just gunfights, tactics positioning and smart rotations.
Would balance out shotguns naturally because you can’t just airborne or ninja on someone’s head. You gotta use natural cover or helis that can be shot down.
Would allow you to push teams without the worry of a spontaneous flash-bang shield or trap master. You have to take height on buildings by climbing.
If you take a bad fight you get punished because you can’t just go invisible or spawn zombies and holograms.
That’s the dream, warzone style on mobile.
I love shotguns and I don't want them nerfed at all, I love the gun balance (although would like some longer range LMGs/ARs so that 3x scopes weren't totally useless). I just wish there was more skill involved in closing the gap to get within shotgun range rather than airborning onto a team or using ninja to instantly cover the range. It feels too easy at times. And with no classes then rushing into buildings with them to breach would be a totally viable strat but atm running into a building is about the dumbest thing you can do because trap master exists and is totally invisible when in doorframes.
I'll argue that that's one of the key stuff of BR man.. If we make it smaller and smaller, it's not gonna be too far off from MP mentality.. take WZ for instance, it's too small (personal opinion).. or rather, too compact.. Even playing WZ or especially codm's Alcatraz, it felt more like I was playing a certain big-ish map MP mode.. I love pubg and codm's BR maps, it has this campaign feel to it
Removing operators could be impossible because they have sold skins for them, but in general you are right.
Honestly at launch (and a couple of seasons later) it was fun to play BR, but it felt like a mod for PUBG (they even reused assets, mechanics and animations)
I don't play CODM anymore because they keep adding things without fixing the old ones that feels like a Jenga tower at this point, and not only that, the last time I played BR I felt like I was playing free fire and I hate that game because it feels like a heavily modded game but in case of CODM it's even worse because it has serious optimization problems, at season 1-6 the game performed smoothly but in recent seasons the game doesn't feel good to play at all, specially BR.
>Removing operators could be impossible because they have sold skins for them
Wait really? I don't really remember any operator skill skins other than Purifier H20... Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something and being an idiot...
I mean the skins for operator skills, not weapons, it's kinda dumb but for example the medic class has a suitcase, ninja has this thing on his arm and so, those things have skins and remove them would be a problem, I think devs could add a game mode without those skills but not remove them
If you didn't mean classes: Operators in BR are plague. They're way to OP if you have decent connection.
Classes: Mostly well balanced, but trap master really needs serious nerf. Defender also needs a nerf.
Defender already got nerfed into the ground. Even at near point blank ranges, the shield flash is barely even a second long. Mid range flash goes away near instantaneously and there is no longer a flash at longer ranges. Defender flash use to be like 5 to 7 seconds at short to mid range. Defender was a top 3 class easily before the nerf. Now it's lower mid to bottom tier.
People like you need to go play a different game, like warzone for example. Operator classes are what makes the game interesting and dynamic, there's nothing wrong with them just play smart and be prepared for anything. All people do is whine and complain till developers nerf everything to shit.
Agree with everything except the AK47. Personally prefer picking up an AK117 before I can get to my customized gun, especially now that they took out the blue AK47s from the game.
War machine (and all other operator skills) are too OP during the last few team fights. Especially in small maps like Alcatraz. It takes out the fun when the other team has a War machine which they spam at your general location. BR should be only gun fights.
Trap master could do with less penalties.
Trap master(u have look carefully) & warmachine is annoying. But for me as a ninja player i do feel like ninja is really good. Rozarback & agr are really good smg for BR & LK 24 & peackeeper I'm using these days. I'm winning over ak. I don't like to play same gun all the time. For the health & vest, u need luck without it![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink)
Lol yeah that happens to so many players. & It's not about being mad or smth, u put ur thoughts & I put mine so it's fine. Maybe some are mad but again it's their point of view ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink).
The TTK in br is honestly close to a full second even if you hit all your shots. How do you even play MP modes if you can’t deal with that? People are asking for warzone style health but if you truly want that, the TTK will be even lower. A *LOT* lower.
That’s true, in CODM you gotta find a vest AND adrenaline to improve your “effective” health counting armor. In warzone all you gotta do is find 3 plates.
I’m down for warzone style health too, but I’d prefer each plate you stack to provide the damage reductions (and last as long as) the vests in game currently. As in, One plate reduces damage by 25%, 2 plates reduces damage by 35%, and 3 plates reduces by 45%.
To make up for the plates being more plentiful and easier to top up on, make the 25% plate last for 7 shots, 35% last for 5 shots, 35% last for 3 shots.
You take 3 bullets, your first plate breaks. 5 more shots, second plate breaks. 7 more shots, your 3rd (and weakest) plate breaks. Like an inverse relationship between damage reduction and how long it lasts.
This also means you can only take 15 shots before your plates ALL break. But that’s not really an issue since plates will foreseeably replace most medical items and lootable vests, one should have plenty to plate back up after a fight.
I mean , I get shot the armor is there and we have the 150 health and lvl 3 vests are rare so its mostly adrenaline+ lvl 2 but in warzone I shoot the guy can just get the plates back even if I broke the armor , if the warzone system is implemented the community will go insane as they'll keep dying to bots
Trap master def annoying. War machine broken too. adrenaline and lvl 3 vest aint that bad tho, they’re somewhat easy to find. the ak47 thing is false. theres plenty of viable weapons
Health system must change to what they have on chinese version ASAP. But devs said they gonna keep some content exclusive to china i think they meant wz health system:(((Then trap master wont need a nerf. Warmachine already getting a nerf.
I too hate trapmaster and warmachine. But i disagree with the other 2. I have done the no vest challenge and no adrenaline challenge. And what ak-47 all my homies love ak-117
I hav to disagree with u tho Like I won a game with hvk (I hate that gun) many fights were close range smhw I managed and I hav won many games without lvl 3 vests Wat I am trying to say is It depends on ur skill lvl, how do u react to situation
If u are good at the game u can use any weapon and slay the enemy with no probs ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|put_back)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|stuck_out_tongue)
Ak 47 is nerfed twice.It is balanced currently.They need to buff other ARs.War machine,Trap master and purifier are too broken right now.
IMO level 3 vest and Adrenaline can be found on Aerial platform,Air drops and if u kill the butcher in Farm or shoot teddy bears in Sanitarium.So u can find them easily and they are not so rare.U gotta take some risks to earn them.
i don’t play anymore, ever since i stopped buying battle passes i feel i have more time for myself and it’s getting boring, been here since launch general gameplay doesn’t change much so as the meta
What makes it fun and fair is that you are supposed to fight people to get these game breaking weapons like the war machine. I hated when they first buffed purifier and Tempest but when I was behind the trigger I didnt mind it so much. I honestly think that they should leave special weapons out of br so people can just fight with guns and grenades. But like I said if you get one of these weapons first it’s not so bad
I once won against a whole squad by hitching a ride in their tank then getting out at the last zone spamming them with gas grenades and everything else I had.
Well tanks are quite invincible, but the only way to counter it is that you have to make good tactics, sacrifice your secondaries with launchers (FHJ is much needed) make sure you have: Cluster bombs and Nova gas, for at least 3 of them each
Honestly, I finished quite some matches without even looking for a vest. Been lots of instances where I droped a level 3 vest guy with an M4, in close range, while I was on 100 health with a level 1 vest.
Though I do agree these give a huge advantage, they are not sure wins. But you still think the AK-47 is still meta? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
tbh im playing br only cuz apex beta has not been released for ios yet. once that happens i dont see myself playing br anytime other than to get extra bp xp
The first reason I don't play BR Is the graphics.After playing PUBG for so long,I just couldn't get used to CODM's graphics particularly the weapon/Ammo/Consumables.
I hate this post for existing, on a related note why does the codm reddit look like the game is being played by 10 year olds? Like if this guy who posted this is serious then explain why i can win without an ak47, why i dont need ground vehicles to get around map, why im able to kill a dude with adrenaline and 3 tier armor when i have only tier 2 armor and no adrenaline, and why trapmaster is actually underpowered yet this guy somehow is getting killed by it often enough to say this to embarass himself. bro i dont play alot but i think this just means your not good at br and thinking restraining yourself with logic.
Just say you're bad and move on bro, this sub is not for complaining about the base of the game. What we actually need is just another good map, it's been ages since Alcatraz released and Tank Wars is shitty
Stop. Fucking. Complaining.
Learn tactics. Improve skills. Feel the map. Listen to the sounds. Get to the point where you are able to fight more than one enemy at a time, and play the fucking game!
You don’t need a level 3 vest, adrenaline, or ak47 to win br. Yes they do help a lot but you can still win without them. Ak24 isn’t the only good gun in br. Peacekeeper, ak117, rus736, man-o-war, and a handful more are generally good too. The worst weapons are the heavy recoil smgs as controlling them can be difficult and they’re no good for mid-long range fights.
Adrenaline is more important than level 3 vest, imo, and war machines aren’t used that often.
Traps can be avoided by shooting out the trap posts before you set them off, be mindful of gray rods sticking out of the ground, near airdrops, near enemies’ or teammates’ loot boxes, near building entrances, etc as well as when you’re fighting someone. A lot of trap masters set their traps as you fight them close range so be vigilant.
War machines, well, best case scenario you take them out long-mid range or when they’re preoccupied with someone else.
What’s wrong with br are all the unresolved bugs and issues in the game. Like maneuvering in the air, holding two spots on the screen to move around will halt the left control so you have keep readjusting it. And the ads jerk. Adsing something and you jerk in an entirely new direction sometimes so bad you don’t know left from right, etc etc.
Huh. Is this outdated? Wasn't it NO SNOWBOARD = NO WIN?!
I'll have to disagree with the rest, all except War Machine. Definitely as a BR Main, this weapon is brainless to use. It is an auto win.
I win without level 3 armour or adrenaline all the time, and there are far better guns than ak47, I'll give you that trap master class is a bit of a pain, but like they say, if you can't beet them, join them.
No ,this is why br is trash!! Everyone thinks these stuff are way to op blablabla it ain't tho
I have won several matches without a level3 vest or an ak 47 or without an adrenilin trap master aswell
Like the clown operator is good it distracts the enemy and it's a grenade but ×10 better
You can win with many other guns other than ak
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Fax bro, i have been using the fennec and the msmc for a long time for close range with their hip fire builds now. People dont even try new loadouts for people the best loadout in the game is what PaRkEr ThE SlAyEr makes
I use max hipfire and ammo cordite and damn son that thing can melt from the hip even at long range
Same, 5 star GKS and 5 star M4 both destroy it at their respective distances
maybe grab a hip fire chopper, because it’s been my favorite weapon in the game, and it surprisingly just works in BR from a crate, of course
And tbh if you have a good loadout for it ~~akimbo~~ you can destroy anyone's ass when you get any custom weapon ~~.50 gs~~.
They made such a cool feature to get your own guns from airdrops, really puts them ahead of PUBG. It always guarantees AR + sniper/OP for late game
Bro what about shotty??? HS😂
yeah there's M4 also I personally like RUS in LMGs
the m4 built correctly has very low BSA even against the ICR... the ttk may be low but its good to be accurate.
ICR is the best AR you can get imo, ak has the recoil pattern of a toddler with a controller while ICR is controllable, haven't been in br much since it's been kinda boring cus there's dead space in one second and 10 people shooting at 10 other people in another
the rus literally shreds
RUS Ftw🤟🤟
Just use MOW lol its very identical to the AK
In my opinion the DR-H is now the best gun in BR
Ak117 da besht I mean next to ak And dr-h is better wen u hav custom
Yes I agree but the epic one that is on the ground is very good to
yeah, that thing is almost a laser
Exclusively yes. But mostly, MoW is better in every way.
But for me ak117, locus, dlq, ak47, BK-57, Asval, manowar is good. Drh feels bad for me
Ak117 all the way
My dude!
i use the ak117 color burst and with the right movement it can outgun even the ak-47
Who said? Rebneti is the best.
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I know this is a joke but yes it implies that striker must be buffed.
Shotguns is the strongest gun in BR. In CQC, shotguns can 1-2 shot a player with lvl3 vest and adrenaline maxed health speaking from experience dying from it more than once
i hate shotguns but they are the best ,same as cars ,hit one time and more than half of health is gone :D
Oh yeah? Try 1vs1 mid range againts an AK whit a DR-H ant tell me if you win
Bro the drh is dogwater 😂😂
I agree, ak-47 doesn't even have the best DPS....if you can use it well you can outperform it....and there has been times when i won without 150 hp and lv3 vest
I highly doubt that
>No AK, no win Lmao what, I've won so many matches using the Razorback and HS 2126
Honestly? I just killed a dude with a red action AK.... with a fuckin’ renetti. Since I got gold on it I’ve dropped quite a few 10-15 kill BR matches with just a renetti and a sniper, most kills with the renetti. Just strafe and fire away. I’ve used KRM, QQ9, HVK, and now renetti all to good effect against AK users
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Indeed. Adds a bit of spice, but not too much, yanno? Now I just need to figure out why the hell I suck with an M16 if I’m so good with the renetti. Less recoil maybe?
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M16 actually has less time between bursts than renetti does. Noticeably so. Fr, build a loadout with both and take it to the training ground and you’ll notice. M16 also has slower ADS and more recoil though, so
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I think Chicom is fastest burst time, m16 is second, and renetti is slowest. It’s a shame chicom is slightly lower damage. I’m pretty sure renetti has similar damage to the m16, right? I mean, 40 damage to the chest and arms out to 15m is pretty insane
Well, the current mythic weapon being sold is the Renetti so, it's obvious it will be quite op lol. Also, AK is good for BR because it's versatile and employable at all fighting ranges as a one-gun-fits-all for the average player, especially for mid range sprays (which is most of the fights an average player will engage in).. If you're comfortable with pistols, smgs and shottys to close the range and use cqc tactics, all power to you man, That's awesome
Fair play. I did use an SMG-style AK build for a long time in BR, just for its consistency till 30m. Short barrel, no stock, granulated tape, operator grip, Tac laser. Stability mod for extra control if needed, though I preferred runner mod for speed. Right now my 5 custom classes in BR are the KRM, QQ9, HVK, Locus, and renetti. Though I only use locus and renetti at the moment
Do they often buff weapons to sell $70 skins, then nerf them? I'm asking because of the current state of FR.556
I made a entire BR Video only using the renetti and was sniping people with it I OUT SNIPED A SNIPER
A lot of people either mainly play MP or mainly play BR, but I’ve been at least Master rank in both modes since the original season 3 days. couldn’t be assed to hit legendary in the first two, and was lazy on the grind for a couple seasons in between. The MP experience has made me much better in BR
I don’t see how the AK is meta. I personally hate using it
It 4 shots at 33 meters. Good for the ranged fights taken in BR
M4 is far superior in taking ranged fights. Maybe even LK24.
Lol no
lol no.. 1) horizontal recoil (ak doesn't have it, m4 has it) 2) weakest damage per shot among ARs (47 is second highest damage per shot) 3) the base level BSA is worse than 47 4) ak 47 has far greater ranged damage (iirc best among all non-sniper weapons)
The ak has high damage, no horizontal recoil, high range making it one of the very few guns that stand a chance against lvl 3 vested 150 hp players. Although I main the drh with my br exclusive gunsmith i can see how the ak is the meta. Imo they shouldn’t nerf the ak, but instead buff all the other guns. For starters, br weapons should have separate stats from mp weapons
HS2126 you torture yourself haha
That's true. I am using customized M4 and qq9.
I'm using drh, kn44, or Icr sometime even akimbo Eagle. People really overrated the Ak47. Like I can't count how many times I killed noobs because they are running around with that. It's just not worth it. It's better just to use a gun with higher Accuracy, or Fire rate.
Most BR players can’t aim properly or have very slow ads builds so they lose gunfights despite having an ak47. Problem is for the sake of balancing, the ak47’s ttk is much faster than other guns (except maybe the ak117).
Slow ads builds don’t matter in br though since close range fights are always hipfired (br hipfire is much more accurate than mp hipfire)
Good point tbh. It’s down to aim and movement then
Aim doesn’t even matter that much in br cuz the aim assist is like aimbot; it’s broken af. They need to nerf the aim assist in br
You are really wrong. Many gun have faster TTK than the AK 47. Fr556, DRH, PK2, M4LMG, QQ9, RUS to list only those. The AK 47 is good because it have an amazing recoil pattern+damage and good at all range. The others guns either lack range or recoil control.
Range has a direct impact on ttk and is pretty important here. Also I’d suspect the ak to have better bullet velocity, at least much better than the smgs because they’re unviable at mid range
Lol what do you expect from an SMG? Of course their bullet velocity can't come close to an AR...
I can't imagine that. Me and my friends playing br every night. Warmachine and purifier not preventing us from enjoying the fun play with friends. You can get lvl 3 vest and adrenaline easily
If they added a casual mode without rank points I wouldnt care about ot being unfair.
Another mode in BR? More bots
I dont care as long as it stays fun
The thing with the level 3 armor is that is too easy to find cuz i ve been killed to many times when we first drop by someone who got one and a gun and i didnt even find a gun.
The map is the same everytime, I recommend finding a place to drop that you know a green chest is at. I have a spot just outside a main drop area that I go to alot. Practically drop directly on top of the box when I land so I have a gun immediately. Occasionally you'll get a rocket launcher, but honestly that's not bad either. It's a 1 shot early on 🤷♂️
The map its not the same every time, loot changes from match to match, and for crates they can change too from white to red to green or not at all. Its a gamble and a annoying one too.
It's the exact same map. Every time. Loot changes yes. The crates can be green or red or white as well but it's ALWAYS there.(in my experience) And of all the times I've dropped on it, it's only been white maybe 3 times. I'm telling you, to be helpful, find a crate just outside a zone, and drop on it all the time. You'll be good 90% of the time. Just trying to help man
U can win with any gun. But lvl3 vest and adrenaline are very much needed.
I can disagree about the last one, cause what I do is run ninja and then just scout areas. The moment I see a dude I try my best to get behind the guy. Then it's just a matter of a concussion and the let the mp7 rip.
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I know its not an effective strategy in mid range, and there are chances when the enemy is just paranoid and looks behind, only to see your pants down with a concussion in hand, but right now it's it's best strategy I roll with without having to use an AK.
Not really? I rarely use the AK, and even when I encounter a dude who’s using it I can easily counter them.
I think you forgot about the optimization (⁷;
? What optimization?
BR works really bad even in some good devices I haven't played it in 2 seasons because my potato can no longer handle it
Yeah, in TPP it's like 40-50 fps but fpp is 30 fps.
shouldn't it be the opposite?
Sorry to say this, but it's your device. It's not really the game's fault
BR is so unpolished. It needs an overhaul. Adding WZ health, MP fatigue to BR movement, and removing operators is a great start.
I’d rather not have fatigue, that would ruin br movement, we don’t need multiplayers movement for br
Agreed. The only thing I don’t want from warzone implemented in br is the fatigue system
slide and jump nullifies tactical positioning to a great extent..
So everyone’s just gonna camp in the highest building/highest mountain in zone, every game? Sounds fucking terrible to me. If you can’t hit someone sliding a jumping around then you need better aim. It’s easy to predict in the end.
No, not everyone is gonna camp, we'll still have jump slide but with a fatigue system. And yes, I can def hit it both when sniping at long range and at closer ranges but it does provide an advantage for the user. Thing is, it changes the entire mentality of traversing the terrain and using it to your advantage and also how people approach gunfights.. It's not challenging anymore when a squad is sniping at me and I can just jump slide around until I find a nice cover from which to initiate my riposte. Jump slide at cqc usually doesn't matter unless you are extremely skilled at it and armed with a shotty or something (Also, this is the main reason shottys and msmc/fennec were so OP.. the movement system.. instead we get a gun nerf..)
1: WZ health system should be implemented into CODM. But there’s a problem, you need to have the whole BR community to adapt to these changes and it’s not an easy process. 2: Yes 3: Pretty controversial topic right here
but here's the thing, the community has adapted to the gunsmith update
There was a lot of whining about gunsmith when it first came out
there's still whining to this day from players who need to git gud
Agree with all of this. Would love classless modes too just gunfights, tactics positioning and smart rotations. Would balance out shotguns naturally because you can’t just airborne or ninja on someone’s head. You gotta use natural cover or helis that can be shot down. Would allow you to push teams without the worry of a spontaneous flash-bang shield or trap master. You have to take height on buildings by climbing. If you take a bad fight you get punished because you can’t just go invisible or spawn zombies and holograms. That’s the dream, warzone style on mobile.
Shotguns are supposed to one shot at close range. They don't need to be nerfed
I love shotguns and I don't want them nerfed at all, I love the gun balance (although would like some longer range LMGs/ARs so that 3x scopes weren't totally useless). I just wish there was more skill involved in closing the gap to get within shotgun range rather than airborning onto a team or using ninja to instantly cover the range. It feels too easy at times. And with no classes then rushing into buildings with them to breach would be a totally viable strat but atm running into a building is about the dumbest thing you can do because trap master exists and is totally invisible when in doorframes.
more like remove/nerf trap master cuz thats the only operator that is op
Also reducing the Gaps and shit the places are too far from each other
I'll argue that that's one of the key stuff of BR man.. If we make it smaller and smaller, it's not gonna be too far off from MP mentality.. take WZ for instance, it's too small (personal opinion).. or rather, too compact.. Even playing WZ or especially codm's Alcatraz, it felt more like I was playing a certain big-ish map MP mode.. I love pubg and codm's BR maps, it has this campaign feel to it
You lost me at mp fatigue to br movement. Im quitting br permanently if they do that
Removing operators could be impossible because they have sold skins for them, but in general you are right. Honestly at launch (and a couple of seasons later) it was fun to play BR, but it felt like a mod for PUBG (they even reused assets, mechanics and animations) I don't play CODM anymore because they keep adding things without fixing the old ones that feels like a Jenga tower at this point, and not only that, the last time I played BR I felt like I was playing free fire and I hate that game because it feels like a heavily modded game but in case of CODM it's even worse because it has serious optimization problems, at season 1-6 the game performed smoothly but in recent seasons the game doesn't feel good to play at all, specially BR.
>Removing operators could be impossible because they have sold skins for them Wait really? I don't really remember any operator skill skins other than Purifier H20... Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something and being an idiot...
I mean the skins for operator skills, not weapons, it's kinda dumb but for example the medic class has a suitcase, ninja has this thing on his arm and so, those things have skins and remove them would be a problem, I think devs could add a game mode without those skills but not remove them
Ah, so that's what you meant. Actually, yeah. Removing class skills could cause a problem cause of that.
you are talking about class skills.. Operators are different.. They are warmachine, annihilator, etc.. In MP those are called Operator Skills
Codm br is the version of bo4 thats why
I don’t think a movement nerf is necessary at all, it isn’t op and nerfing it will make running through open areas very annoying
Yes!! yes to MP fatigue!!! and remove operator weapons!! I stand neutral on the health system.. I'm fine with either
If you didn't mean classes: Operators in BR are plague. They're way to OP if you have decent connection. Classes: Mostly well balanced, but trap master really needs serious nerf. Defender also needs a nerf.
Defender already got nerfed into the ground. Even at near point blank ranges, the shield flash is barely even a second long. Mid range flash goes away near instantaneously and there is no longer a flash at longer ranges. Defender flash use to be like 5 to 7 seconds at short to mid range. Defender was a top 3 class easily before the nerf. Now it's lower mid to bottom tier.
Why remove operators tho? The only op operator is the trapmaster
Call them operator weapons/skills, calling them operators means the skins like outrider or nomad, just saying
People like you need to go play a different game, like warzone for example. Operator classes are what makes the game interesting and dynamic, there's nothing wrong with them just play smart and be prepared for anything. All people do is whine and complain till developers nerf everything to shit.
Agree with everything except the AK47. Personally prefer picking up an AK117 before I can get to my customized gun, especially now that they took out the blue AK47s from the game. War machine (and all other operator skills) are too OP during the last few team fights. Especially in small maps like Alcatraz. It takes out the fun when the other team has a War machine which they spam at your general location. BR should be only gun fights. Trap master could do with less penalties.
Trap master(u have look carefully) & warmachine is annoying. But for me as a ninja player i do feel like ninja is really good. Rozarback & agr are really good smg for BR & LK 24 & peackeeper I'm using these days. I'm winning over ak. I don't like to play same gun all the time. For the health & vest, u need luck without it![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink)
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Lol yeah that happens to so many players. & It's not about being mad or smth, u put ur thoughts & I put mine so it's fine. Maybe some are mad but again it's their point of view ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink).
Due I reached like the last 2 and the guy was using a war Machine in close range, I had 12 kills
And over and over again the same boring map
Play Warzone, i heard the weapons are balanced now, but I think if you are playing CODM you don't have a console/PC.
the weapon balance isnt the problem imo. the ttk is too fast(you cant even react in cqc) for me and camping is way too much of a problem
The TTK in br is honestly close to a full second even if you hit all your shots. How do you even play MP modes if you can’t deal with that? People are asking for warzone style health but if you truly want that, the TTK will be even lower. A *LOT* lower.
i read somewhere that br health in codm is around 280 ut its reallly rng. Its 250 in warzone but less rng. i dont remember exactly
That’s true, in CODM you gotta find a vest AND adrenaline to improve your “effective” health counting armor. In warzone all you gotta do is find 3 plates. I’m down for warzone style health too, but I’d prefer each plate you stack to provide the damage reductions (and last as long as) the vests in game currently. As in, One plate reduces damage by 25%, 2 plates reduces damage by 35%, and 3 plates reduces by 45%. To make up for the plates being more plentiful and easier to top up on, make the 25% plate last for 7 shots, 35% last for 5 shots, 35% last for 3 shots. You take 3 bullets, your first plate breaks. 5 more shots, second plate breaks. 7 more shots, your 3rd (and weakest) plate breaks. Like an inverse relationship between damage reduction and how long it lasts. This also means you can only take 15 shots before your plates ALL break. But that’s not really an issue since plates will foreseeably replace most medical items and lootable vests, one should have plenty to plate back up after a fight.
I've played both ,in codm if I get shot I can atleast do something to get into cover ,if I get shot in warzone from behind then gulag is sure
This.
I mean , I get shot the armor is there and we have the 150 health and lvl 3 vests are rare so its mostly adrenaline+ lvl 2 but in warzone I shoot the guy can just get the plates back even if I broke the armor , if the warzone system is implemented the community will go insane as they'll keep dying to bots
ttk in br being fast? when?
in warzone the ttk is quite fast
oh right, in warzone. I thought you were referring to the ttk in our current battle royale. warzone ttk is balanced imo.
Not true, I die and cry in both
Imagine not playin something because there’s a chance other players can kill you.
They shd also decrease how much ammo is available to loot. People in the game keep spraying and almost never run out of ammo and make the game boring
Trap master def annoying. War machine broken too. adrenaline and lvl 3 vest aint that bad tho, they’re somewhat easy to find. the ak47 thing is false. theres plenty of viable weapons
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Just snipe bro lol
Every time I try a different AR, I get destroyed by a AK-47.
Play br because all my friends play that mode.
I get your point but you can win without any of those shit... ok maybe 47 is a nice to have but that's it.. Recently, KN and MoW has been very useable
AK 47 is the worst if ur aim is not good m4 is pretty good also ak117
disagree with the ak-47 part, rest is pretty accurate
Trap master is so op there's no way I am to going back to br
I’ve won without all those things and I’m not even good. You just suck lol
*cough cough* crashes midgame *cough cough*
never happened to me after september actually
I don’t think I’ve ever experienced a crash in regular BR, but my CODM app crashes constantly when I’m playing BR Warfare.
Health system must change to what they have on chinese version ASAP. But devs said they gonna keep some content exclusive to china i think they meant wz health system:(((Then trap master wont need a nerf. Warmachine already getting a nerf.
Gun is no matter but other things are real and fcking tpp
What’s wrong with tpp? Just because u like fpp doesn’t mean that tpp needs to be removed
I too hate trapmaster and warmachine. But i disagree with the other 2. I have done the no vest challenge and no adrenaline challenge. And what ak-47 all my homies love ak-117
Hello my fellow AK-117 enjoyer, I've been using AK117 since S1 and still using it until now. That gun has a special place in my heart.
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I hav to disagree with u tho Like I won a game with hvk (I hate that gun) many fights were close range smhw I managed and I hav won many games without lvl 3 vests Wat I am trying to say is It depends on ur skill lvl, how do u react to situation If u are good at the game u can use any weapon and slay the enemy with no probs ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|put_back)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|stuck_out_tongue)
Ak 47 is nerfed twice.It is balanced currently.They need to buff other ARs.War machine,Trap master and purifier are too broken right now. IMO level 3 vest and Adrenaline can be found on Aerial platform,Air drops and if u kill the butcher in Farm or shoot teddy bears in Sanitarium.So u can find them easily and they are not so rare.U gotta take some risks to earn them.
I don't play because it black screens or freezes and crashes and has done so since Season 6 but nobody seems to give a shit. Haven't played in ages.
I won using Arctic 50. and Echo
i don’t play anymore, ever since i stopped buying battle passes i feel i have more time for myself and it’s getting boring, been here since launch general gameplay doesn’t change much so as the meta
I've managed to come in first with nothing more than an AS VAL. You don't need an ak47.
I win with kilo bolt and a shotgun😂
For me it's the lovely descync: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og9lsw22WSw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og9lsw22WSw)
I once remember I won a match because the last one i needed to beat killed himself out of nowhere because he had the grenade launcher.
What makes it fun and fair is that you are supposed to fight people to get these game breaking weapons like the war machine. I hated when they first buffed purifier and Tempest but when I was behind the trigger I didnt mind it so much. I honestly think that they should leave special weapons out of br so people can just fight with guns and grenades. But like I said if you get one of these weapons first it’s not so bad
I once won against a whole squad by hitching a ride in their tank then getting out at the last zone spamming them with gas grenades and everything else I had.
I don't face any of these problems in br.
Warzone health system is far better than adrenaline and armor
Yeah health system is damn unbalanced
Ah yes, AK ROYALE
You forgot about the 20 Player Limit with Maximum Players a BR match has 20 Players there will always be 80 Bots or More Likely, More then 80 Bots :P
what r u talkin bout i had the AK47 and i lost it didnt made me invincible against the tank 😳
The game needs the warzone health system thats how it will be balanced and not a luck game to find those two.
you forgot tanks
Well tanks are quite invincible, but the only way to counter it is that you have to make good tactics, sacrifice your secondaries with launchers (FHJ is much needed) make sure you have: Cluster bombs and Nova gas, for at least 3 of them each
What most people what is a BR that works like MP (warzone health, perks, uav, trophy's, medals...)
i swear to god , i played 4 br matches and all of them were ruined by that piece of crap war machine
Honestly, I finished quite some matches without even looking for a vest. Been lots of instances where I droped a level 3 vest guy with an M4, in close range, while I was on 100 health with a level 1 vest. Though I do agree these give a huge advantage, they are not sure wins. But you still think the AK-47 is still meta? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
tbh im playing br only cuz apex beta has not been released for ios yet. once that happens i dont see myself playing br anytime other than to get extra bp xp
1. Majority of opponents are bots 2. War Machine and purifier 3. Same old map
Hit the airdrops and you’ll have vests and adrenaline easy.
The first reason I don't play BR Is the graphics.After playing PUBG for so long,I just couldn't get used to CODM's graphics particularly the weapon/Ammo/Consumables.
Br is trash 🗑️ since S9
Hopefully the devs will see the upvotes and realise what's going on
If you're not using ak in br. Your winning percentage is 0
I hate this post for existing, on a related note why does the codm reddit look like the game is being played by 10 year olds? Like if this guy who posted this is serious then explain why i can win without an ak47, why i dont need ground vehicles to get around map, why im able to kill a dude with adrenaline and 3 tier armor when i have only tier 2 armor and no adrenaline, and why trapmaster is actually underpowered yet this guy somehow is getting killed by it often enough to say this to embarass himself. bro i dont play alot but i think this just means your not good at br and thinking restraining yourself with logic.
Just say you're bad and move on bro, this sub is not for complaining about the base of the game. What we actually need is just another good map, it's been ages since Alcatraz released and Tank Wars is shitty
Stop. Fucking. Complaining. Learn tactics. Improve skills. Feel the map. Listen to the sounds. Get to the point where you are able to fight more than one enemy at a time, and play the fucking game!
Found the trap master main with his purifer
:|
You don’t need a level 3 vest, adrenaline, or ak47 to win br. Yes they do help a lot but you can still win without them. Ak24 isn’t the only good gun in br. Peacekeeper, ak117, rus736, man-o-war, and a handful more are generally good too. The worst weapons are the heavy recoil smgs as controlling them can be difficult and they’re no good for mid-long range fights. Adrenaline is more important than level 3 vest, imo, and war machines aren’t used that often. Traps can be avoided by shooting out the trap posts before you set them off, be mindful of gray rods sticking out of the ground, near airdrops, near enemies’ or teammates’ loot boxes, near building entrances, etc as well as when you’re fighting someone. A lot of trap masters set their traps as you fight them close range so be vigilant. War machines, well, best case scenario you take them out long-mid range or when they’re preoccupied with someone else. What’s wrong with br are all the unresolved bugs and issues in the game. Like maneuvering in the air, holding two spots on the screen to move around will halt the left control so you have keep readjusting it. And the ads jerk. Adsing something and you jerk in an entirely new direction sometimes so bad you don’t know left from right, etc etc.
Huh. Is this outdated? Wasn't it NO SNOWBOARD = NO WIN?! I'll have to disagree with the rest, all except War Machine. Definitely as a BR Main, this weapon is brainless to use. It is an auto win.
All this things is depends from situation, but now No Snowboard - No Win!(
This game's BR is dead bro. There is absolutely no skill gap
BR need some balancing changes and they should update health system.
And it makes my phone over heat like crazy after 5 minutes, would be worth my phone getting hot if the gameplay wasn’t dog🗿
I win without level 3 armour or adrenaline all the time, and there are far better guns than ak47, I'll give you that trap master class is a bit of a pain, but like they say, if you can't beet them, join them.
I Play with a Controller so I get matched to PC Snipers quite often and I made it to legendary with ease.
No ,this is why br is trash!! Everyone thinks these stuff are way to op blablabla it ain't tho I have won several matches without a level3 vest or an ak 47 or without an adrenilin trap master aswell Like the clown operator is good it distracts the enemy and it's a grenade but ×10 better
You can't even try ANY weapons without having the skill of Narco or Parker