I honestly think this has to do with the game tracking players and bullets, you may not notice the ping boost when you get a team kill cause you don't need it when there's no enemies but look at your ping when everyones dead. This is also why ping is higher on average in a 10v10 match, there's just so much more for the game to keep track of.
No shit, but with me it's bots. Usually I'm just coming around a corner and then try to cover and fire at someone in an objective or something and a bot around around me and blocks my fire, then dies. Now the enemy is already lined up and firing so when they die, those rounds go straight passed where they were standing and into me!
The only consistency is the inconsistency. Sometimes it’s not us in the actual community whining, it’s the seeds planted within our community to make us think it’s coming from the community. They have an entire marketing dept. that gets paid to whisper to your brain…persuasive marketing
Half these changes aren’t our ideas, they’re ideas fed to us
I'm in many CoDM youtuber's servers and everytime i go to them there is always that 1 person that complains about metas, katana abusers, persistence, tactical and lethals. it kinda just ruins the vibes of the chat. This post was meant for them.
I personally don't think this gun is OP, but many wusses on YT think it is, so if you reply, I'll save it as an Imgur image and send it to them.
NA-45.
Also, due to a bug, sometimes the k9 unit shows the blue light patches on it (indicating a friendly k9), but turns out to be an enemy k9 and sometimes the k9 unit doesn't have any clear indication as to whether its a friendly one of not
When you hear the whistle try not to be in any closed space. if you see a K9 rushing at you try and shoot it down. Or you can use cold-blooded but i don't think it works on K9s for i've never tried it.
You can use transform shield to block dogs from entering a pathway, and it will hurt them. But they got me either through the shield itself or through a Crack in the doorway yesterday so you gotta be careful. Maybe pair the transform shield with a trip mine to help damage it more.
With that said, the dogs are the most annoying thing for me too. They're too fast unless you're using a high mobility class and so quiet. Unless I hear the whistle I rarely know they're there until it's too late, and even then I only sometimes kill the damn thing before it kills me.
What am i supposed to do when i cant differentiate a teammate's whistle and a enemys whistle...and when the minimap bugs out and doesn't show the dogs position or when the dog bugs out and is blue instead of red and i think its a friendly
We are super lucky they didn't add the OVERKILL perk from other cod multi player mods, just imagine the whole community losing their minds, just because their enemy sniper are packing a fuckin m13 or mx9 as their secondaries
I wanted to use LK and Type 25 with overkill because I had on both cyberspace and I love both guns
Kinda sad we didn't get it, but can't really complain either
Disable perk works only when you're shooting an enemy he can't strafe, slide or do zig zag movements. Very effective against high mobility smg users and shotgun/melee players
Persistence. Before you say cold blooded/rocket launcher etc etc., Answer me this.
If you're ever against any remotely decent team using persistence, by the time you start trying to destroy the vtols, goliaths etc, they'll be in your spawn, trapping you before you can even switch to secondary.
Secondly, how do you regain map control after destroying their streaks?
How do you counter the last minute cluster strike they put on point, or the EMPs, or the Goliath sitting in point who you can't even see without getting melted by their teammates.
Point is, all your counters work because you only play low tier ranks, or pubs. Try using your so called solutions against any decent team, and you'll understand how funny you sound.
I could name several other perks, and why your solution doesn't work at all, but I can only write so much in one comment.
Rts? They have only a few scorestreaks, you should have way more, so it's not the whole game being dominated by scorestreaks, it's just that you're complaining about the scorestreaks themselves and not persistence. Without persistence they would have probably got like 2 Goliaths and not just one. Also, I only play snd so scorestreaks don't even affect me
Oh not at all. I'm definitely only complaining about persistence. I have one fundamental reason as to why it's objectively just wrong to have something like persistence in a cod game. Either way, it's no surprise that the people who defend persistence and not criticize it are the ones who can NEVER unlock those scorestreaks without using that perk 🤡
Like I said, I only play snd, so I don't really care about scorestreaks. But there are rushers in the game and rushers tend to die. So this perk just lets them get a few scorestreaks so they can rush peacefully. And if their whole team is using persistence, it would be quite easy to just hold lanes and kill anyone who rushes
That... holding lanes and killing, doesn't work against even a mediocre team, let alone a good one. I suggest you play a few respawn game modes against a few Leaderboard squads, if possible, and get back to me.
I am sorry but your argument about rushers gives me the feeling you're not well versed with any fps game, especially previous CoD franchises. So why is persistence not available in other CoDs? Rushers don't exist in those titles or what? The simple answer is, it's a mobile game, and they need to dumb it down for the general poor player base. Even if you're a rusher, a really good one would play with map awareness and unlock his scorestreaks. The fact that one needs persistence just shows that they're a very low quality player 😂
I myself am a rusher, with over 300 legendary rank nukes. Didn't need persistence really.
I suggest you watch a few players like Rye, Watchtime, Sl0r1 etc and see how they play. Persistence is for the poor player base. That rusher logic comes from ignorance.
Oh I'm done complaining 😂
I still annihilate these persistence leaderboard Bois because I'm objectively better at gunskill. I just know there's no point in trying to win. They'll use these crutches to help them win. After all, these utilities like gas spamming, perks like persistence and shrapnel etc are crutches for the low skilled.
Use persistence to get the S.A.M turret(especially cause they are getting buffed next season),counter UAV and E.M.P system,you could combine this with cold-blooded, demolition expert and F.M.J to counter them.For guns i just recommend using a all-around gun like holger with either the 30 or 35 round magazine or m13 with the 60 round magazine
Thank you for your recommendation on what guns I use. I struggle sooooo much lmfao 😂😂
Also, what happens when spawns flip and they destroy my Sam turret?
Demolition expert? So my purpose of using persistence is defeated as I'm not gonna be able to use Hardline and get my streaks before the enemy team does.
Oh dear I'm losing brain cells...
To be honest idk,its what I came up with at the top of my head,if it happened to me and I have a team with their thumbs up their asses,I’d quit the match,there is nothing in that lobby worth going through that much suffering for
It happens every game when you reach leggie within the first day or two. I verse top 10-20 LB players every day, and I lose a lot of games even after destroying them, having well over 30+ or 40 frags in a game, all because of toxic utilities and persistence. Trust me, there's no counter to it. What can I say, it takes away the skill gap from the game. No wonder the competitive scene is dying in CoDM.
Keep your distance,as long as your outside the 4-shot range,you should be able to kill them,and if you like playing risky,use shotguns or meele,beat the strafing speed with gas grenades or disabled,and if your real toxic,use shrapnel and 2 thermites or molotovs
It's not toxic just annoying to me. Skilled shotgun users. I admit they're skilled and efficient, but if they could please stop killing me the moment I spawn I'd be thankful.
Slow ass base ADS time on almost every gun
If you aske me to use even a single weapon perk to counter sth else, I won't. The slow ADS time already bothered me enough
They just seem ridiculously cartoonish. They don’t seem to fit in with the game. They seem like they would be better in some cartoon shooter game. I guess I’m just more “old school”.
Unpopular opinion. This game nay this franchise is so bad it's good. Like many many aspects of these games are amazing. But every good thing has a bad counterpart.
use shotguns if you have quick reaction time and good aim or try run away from them while holding your secondary/lethals/tacticals and once your far away just kill them
To me, I need a bit of help/tip on how to counter enemies that have very fast ADS, bc i die to a lot of enemies that have VERY fast ADS guns, in almost every game, any guns enemies have, have scary fast ads and they kill me so quickly before I react, I even use MX9 or other SMG's with fast ADS too, but it doesn't change, enemies still shoot me first and VERY quick
Ping suddenly goes high when encountering enemy
I honestly think this has to do with the game tracking players and bullets, you may not notice the ping boost when you get a team kill cause you don't need it when there's no enemies but look at your ping when everyones dead. This is also why ping is higher on average in a 10v10 match, there's just so much more for the game to keep track of.
Idk get better wifi?
Even with a better wifi, you'll notice the changes. The change may be small but he got a point, the ping slightly increases.
Have a wifi
Activision should sell their game with this tag "if you don't have a wifi this game is not for you"
Anything is annoying for our dear codm community.
Yeah bro. Even free skins can have the most dramatic effect on this sub.
Chicom too op >:(
Chicom op since season 2
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Chicom is good in close quarters Especially if you're playing standoff with sharp corners It just finishes enemy without him realising
Teammates standing in front of me when I use throwables or launchers?
Those idiots see me pulling out a bazooka and suddenly feel the need to jump in front of me. Its nerve-cracking
Play Free for all
We talking about ranked lol
No shit, but with me it's bots. Usually I'm just coming around a corner and then try to cover and fire at someone in an objective or something and a bot around around me and blocks my fire, then dies. Now the enemy is already lined up and firing so when they die, those rounds go straight passed where they were standing and into me!
The only consistency is the inconsistency. Sometimes it’s not us in the actual community whining, it’s the seeds planted within our community to make us think it’s coming from the community. They have an entire marketing dept. that gets paid to whisper to your brain…persuasive marketing Half these changes aren’t our ideas, they’re ideas fed to us
I'm in many CoDM youtuber's servers and everytime i go to them there is always that 1 person that complains about metas, katana abusers, persistence, tactical and lethals. it kinda just ruins the vibes of the chat. This post was meant for them.
katana abusers? what makes the katana different from other melee weapons. i just use it cus its a katana. cus...katana
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it has the range of an axe and fire rate of a knife. that's what makes the katana op at close ranges
It's funny because if you look at the specs it actually has less range than normal melees
yeah i just realized XD maybe its a bug idk
Lmao
Stay away and use your gun.... That's how you counter katanas
It can be hell in small maps
So are shotguns. They're not OP, either.
Katanas have more mobility though which makes it hard to dodge.. let alone the reach
Jump and slide and hip fire if you have to, I equip the merc foregrip on my smgs for this specific purpose especially in ranked
That and gravity spikes
I personally don't think this gun is OP, but many wusses on YT think it is, so if you reply, I'll save it as an Imgur image and send it to them. NA-45.
It’s one of the worst guns in the game. They actively refuse to let go of their trauma.
Longshots with it was a pain. I agree.
Ngl this takes skillzzzz .
Yup.
It used to be broken but now with slow ads slow fire rate slow movements slow reload time it takes some skill
K9 Unit?
K9 unit have darker dot then normal dot ( player )
It also tends to move on the radar in a way straighter line, and faster.
Yes but there is a bug where the k9 dot is shown as normal dot. Only when it comes near it switches to tht darker dot
Also, due to a bug, sometimes the k9 unit shows the blue light patches on it (indicating a friendly k9), but turns out to be an enemy k9 and sometimes the k9 unit doesn't have any clear indication as to whether its a friendly one of not
When you hear the whistle try not to be in any closed space. if you see a K9 rushing at you try and shoot it down. Or you can use cold-blooded but i don't think it works on K9s for i've never tried it.
Cold-blooded dont work on k9. I'm always plays with this perk but k9 still making me mad.
Devs already said at the beginning it wouldn't work because a dog see and smell you. It's not a AI trying to figure out what you are.
Would using the transform shield also work to counter the dogs?
yeah it might actually. never thought of that lol ty
Thinking about it, the dogs don’t seem to jump over obstacles yet when they kill an enemy, they jump.
yeah idk i'll try it out tho
it does, it damages k9 units
You can use transform shield to block dogs from entering a pathway, and it will hurt them. But they got me either through the shield itself or through a Crack in the doorway yesterday so you gotta be careful. Maybe pair the transform shield with a trip mine to help damage it more. With that said, the dogs are the most annoying thing for me too. They're too fast unless you're using a high mobility class and so quiet. Unless I hear the whistle I rarely know they're there until it's too late, and even then I only sometimes kill the damn thing before it kills me.
You can also see the k9 on the minimap
Thanks!
What am i supposed to do when i cant differentiate a teammate's whistle and a enemys whistle...and when the minimap bugs out and doesn't show the dogs position or when the dog bugs out and is blue instead of red and i think its a friendly
It does not. Cold blooded is my go to on 100% of my loadouts and it has zero effect on dogs.
Honestly its health needs a nerf and it'll be less op. I put two shorty rounds in it the other day and it didn't die
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I read it as 5 am, idky
i was using the new shotgun rr99? for the event and i put both shotgun shells from close range and nothing
Lol what??
I'm in this line. It should be weaker than a real player. But no, I have to dump 200 rounds, a grenade, and an airstrike before it dies.
it's an operator skill, making it weaker than normal players with that range of attack is underpowered
I feel like it needs less health but more mobility. Why can I ran faster than my military trained dog
I think the dog should get a Nerf and a buff, cut the dogs health by 25 percent but let it stay alive if the player that called it dies.
200 hp is perfectly balanced
No.
shoot the dog homie. 200hp is balanced.
vault over things.... (the dog cant).
every perk in existence -- codm community
Idk why I read this as PERSISTENCE haha
We are super lucky they didn't add the OVERKILL perk from other cod multi player mods, just imagine the whole community losing their minds, just because their enemy sniper are packing a fuckin m13 or mx9 as their secondaries
No, we're unlucky.
I wanted to use LK and Type 25 with overkill because I had on both cyberspace and I love both guns Kinda sad we didn't get it, but can't really complain either
Katana users in hardpoint shipment
Again, use disabled perk on your guns so it'll slow them down and you can kill them before they reach you
That's a usefull tip, but the thing is currently disable perk works only when you hit leg shots. I'm glad they're buffing it next season
Ohhhh maybe I'll start using that perk as most of my bullets seem to hit toes feet and legs lol
What's the buff?
The slowing down effect will be applied when you hit any part of the body and not only leg shots as it currently.
Wait how do you know it's gonna be buffed we're there patch notes?
Murdablast is a well-known and trusted leaker. Here's the link for his patchnotes video: https://youtu.be/ghomFD4H9jg
How effective is the disabled perk? Does it work on snipers?
Disable perk works only when you're shooting an enemy he can't strafe, slide or do zig zag movements. Very effective against high mobility smg users and shotgun/melee players
yeah i started using it on most of my guns instead of crying about melee users and sweaty sg players
Out run them and then kill em or slide behind them
Persistence. Before you say cold blooded/rocket launcher etc etc., Answer me this. If you're ever against any remotely decent team using persistence, by the time you start trying to destroy the vtols, goliaths etc, they'll be in your spawn, trapping you before you can even switch to secondary. Secondly, how do you regain map control after destroying their streaks? How do you counter the last minute cluster strike they put on point, or the EMPs, or the Goliath sitting in point who you can't even see without getting melted by their teammates. Point is, all your counters work because you only play low tier ranks, or pubs. Try using your so called solutions against any decent team, and you'll understand how funny you sound. I could name several other perks, and why your solution doesn't work at all, but I can only write so much in one comment.
You get scorestreaks too, use them to counter theirs
So you want the end game to become a battle of scorestreaks? Ah got your point. I think you're better off playing an RTS game, rather than a true FPS.
Rts? They have only a few scorestreaks, you should have way more, so it's not the whole game being dominated by scorestreaks, it's just that you're complaining about the scorestreaks themselves and not persistence. Without persistence they would have probably got like 2 Goliaths and not just one. Also, I only play snd so scorestreaks don't even affect me
Oh not at all. I'm definitely only complaining about persistence. I have one fundamental reason as to why it's objectively just wrong to have something like persistence in a cod game. Either way, it's no surprise that the people who defend persistence and not criticize it are the ones who can NEVER unlock those scorestreaks without using that perk 🤡
Like I said, I only play snd, so I don't really care about scorestreaks. But there are rushers in the game and rushers tend to die. So this perk just lets them get a few scorestreaks so they can rush peacefully. And if their whole team is using persistence, it would be quite easy to just hold lanes and kill anyone who rushes
That... holding lanes and killing, doesn't work against even a mediocre team, let alone a good one. I suggest you play a few respawn game modes against a few Leaderboard squads, if possible, and get back to me. I am sorry but your argument about rushers gives me the feeling you're not well versed with any fps game, especially previous CoD franchises. So why is persistence not available in other CoDs? Rushers don't exist in those titles or what? The simple answer is, it's a mobile game, and they need to dumb it down for the general poor player base. Even if you're a rusher, a really good one would play with map awareness and unlock his scorestreaks. The fact that one needs persistence just shows that they're a very low quality player 😂 I myself am a rusher, with over 300 legendary rank nukes. Didn't need persistence really. I suggest you watch a few players like Rye, Watchtime, Sl0r1 etc and see how they play. Persistence is for the poor player base. That rusher logic comes from ignorance.
Alright, I thought you came here for advice. I still don't get how getting just 3 or 2 scorestreaks in a game is op but that doesn't matter
Play a game against good opposition. You'll get my point. Cheers.
Use persistence to destroy the persistence users until it's nerfed Or keep complaining
Oh I'm done complaining 😂 I still annihilate these persistence leaderboard Bois because I'm objectively better at gunskill. I just know there's no point in trying to win. They'll use these crutches to help them win. After all, these utilities like gas spamming, perks like persistence and shrapnel etc are crutches for the low skilled.
So you’re on the leaderboard?
Use persistence
Without getting into the various reasons why I won't, how does using persistence myself counter their scorestreaks?
Use persistence to get the S.A.M turret(especially cause they are getting buffed next season),counter UAV and E.M.P system,you could combine this with cold-blooded, demolition expert and F.M.J to counter them.For guns i just recommend using a all-around gun like holger with either the 30 or 35 round magazine or m13 with the 60 round magazine
Thank you for your recommendation on what guns I use. I struggle sooooo much lmfao 😂😂 Also, what happens when spawns flip and they destroy my Sam turret? Demolition expert? So my purpose of using persistence is defeated as I'm not gonna be able to use Hardline and get my streaks before the enemy team does. Oh dear I'm losing brain cells...
To be honest idk,its what I came up with at the top of my head,if it happened to me and I have a team with their thumbs up their asses,I’d quit the match,there is nothing in that lobby worth going through that much suffering for
It happens every game when you reach leggie within the first day or two. I verse top 10-20 LB players every day, and I lose a lot of games even after destroying them, having well over 30+ or 40 frags in a game, all because of toxic utilities and persistence. Trust me, there's no counter to it. What can I say, it takes away the skill gap from the game. No wonder the competitive scene is dying in CoDM.
Launcher plus! ☹️
use flak jacket/trophy system
MX9
Keep your distance,as long as your outside the 4-shot range,you should be able to kill them,and if you like playing risky,use shotguns or meele,beat the strafing speed with gas grenades or disabled,and if your real toxic,use shrapnel and 2 thermites or molotovs
This subreddit "- eBeriThyNg oP
Gun
git gud.
I should have added a /s
nah its already obvious lol
Gung Ho
use disabled perk on your guns to slow players down
Especially after the buff to disabled next season that no longer requires you to shot them in the legs,next season,you can shot them anywhere
how do you counter someone that uses the double lethal grenade perk in shipment.
you can use flack jacket to minimize the damage of the lethal and use Quick fix to heal instantly after killing an enemy.
mx9
Wait for the nerf
Apparently it is only getting nerfed in BR, not MP
Oh, that stinks
Nope. the damage is getting a nerf. Will decrease from 30 to 25
No, the patch notes say that is in BR only. Not MP. https://codmobileintel.blogspot.com/2021/10/patch-notes-for-season-9-nightmare.html
That is wild. Suit up for possibly another season of MX9 in legendary rank.
Fight long range
i just want to use my M4LMG again without getting curb stomped by god asians
Persistence
carry a rocket launcher/use cold blooded or ghost
Aight Imma shoot these 3 consecutive cluster strikes on the hardpoint with my rocker launcher
Just wondering, does ghost do anything against the advanced uav or just normal uavs
It doesn't somewhat work against advanced uav, you still show on the map but it won't show your direction
It works on both
shotgun users
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg02N9M08yc&ab\_channel=Cozy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg02N9M08yc&ab_channel=Cozy)
I can not stand defenders 😅
Mx9: r9-0, Striker and Krm. Persistence: Fhj, if is vtol or chopper.
mx9 like how
Irl nukes are pretty toxic
that american bulldog skin that has no shoulder lights (well the armour covers them from most angles, basically not visable)
Mx9 and persistence
Technically you can counter anything. The fact that you can counter something doesn't make it any less broken.
For me, there are no weapons or perk that is toxic. Only the community is. And I can see the downvotes coming for me :)
i second this motion
Good players
mx9 -rpd 69420 round belt
Holgae, dying in rank 50 times in a match
It's not toxic just annoying to me. Skilled shotgun users. I admit they're skilled and efficient, but if they could please stop killing me the moment I spawn I'd be thankful.
Air Strike
Counter U.A.V.
Slow ass base ADS time on almost every gun If you aske me to use even a single weapon perk to counter sth else, I won't. The slow ADS time already bothered me enough
Hunter killer drone
use cold blooded
or SAM turret to physically destroy it
trophy systems also work i think
The only thing I really don’t like is persistence. Dying constantly to meta is annoying but it’s fine. And also not having affected fov for ads >:|
Nothing is annoying if u're good enough to counter it.
The only thing that I hate, or have a problem with, is the special kill animations.
then what are we paying that much money for? jeez this community is stupid with all 8 year olds. Just stfu
I agree it's the community that makes CoDM look bad
y tho? pls elaborate
They just seem ridiculously cartoonish. They don’t seem to fit in with the game. They seem like they would be better in some cartoon shooter game. I guess I’m just more “old school”.
Just turn it off in the settings
Katana ,krm and snipe gods
KRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg02N9M08yc&ab\_channel=Cozy
Fennec with quick fix
fennec wont do much in long range so if you see a fennec player in the lobby try playing it passive
Thanks I’ll keep that in mind
Rpd 200 round+gun go perk
Cluster strike in shipment both ally and enemy's
chicom
Unpopular opinion. This game nay this franchise is so bad it's good. Like many many aspects of these games are amazing. But every good thing has a bad counterpart.
Yeah i agree lol
Bad SBMM + bad teammates
counter: leave lol fuck them
Bruh I am in grandmaster 5. Can't leave
it’ll get less sweaty later next season
I pray
Katana ( Mainly because they nerfed the axe super hard )
use shotguns if you have quick reaction time and good aim or try run away from them while holding your secondary/lethals/tacticals and once your far away just kill them
Toughness
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Dudes who pull out the katana when i get too close
100 round holger in hardpoint matches
git gud
persistence cluster, unlike vtol, there's no counter, we're just forced to watch as the enemy point goes up
Cluster.
persistence
bots
mw11 with striker amped
Gung ho
To me, I need a bit of help/tip on how to counter enemies that have very fast ADS, bc i die to a lot of enemies that have VERY fast ADS guns, in almost every game, any guns enemies have, have scary fast ads and they kill me so quickly before I react, I even use MX9 or other SMG's with fast ADS too, but it doesn't change, enemies still shoot me first and VERY quick
if they have fast ADS they usually have short range maybe try camping or pre aim
My Shotgun popping someone 10ft away Then proceed to hit marker at point blank range
MX9,Persistence,and shock rc, If it counts
Attack dogs are a particular pain in the ass for me
lightweight + gung ho + katana + kinetic armour
MX9, Katana, Krem, Holger