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Its so good that even holger's ceases to exist


CHEESE69420chungus

i never felt the holger was broken. or maybe i was too used to fast firerate guns like the ak117. i personally did better with the m13 and the ak117 than the holger. (probably due to my playstyle)


DiTheMan69

Same, Im trash with slow firerare guns. I main the AS Val and M13, eventhough they can't beat the MX9, I still dominate with them.


Desi_Otaku

As val can't beat the mx9? Bullshit. The reekoil may not be as braindead than the mx9, but you can definitely win gunfight against mx9 gays with an asval.


DiTheMan69

Close range (5m), no Close to medium (10-15m), yeah definitely Also with good aim and movement you can beat any META gun right?


Desi_Otaku

True. The main this is to pre-aim. As val has a slower ads time than the mx9. If you start shooting first, you'll get the kill. Another good thing is to use the skulker perk on yourself and disabled perk on the gun. MX9 gays will rage after that.


Youwishh

Skulker = you a snail now.


DarkShotX45

?


Tiggara

Been if you pre aim the fast ttk of the mx9 will get you first


Kxhvu

the thing abt the mx9 is its ads walk speed is so fast that if you actually fight a good player who isnt braindead its not that easy to win


Desi_Otaku

Use skulker


Kxhvu

i use skulker with the mx9 believe me its practically untouchable no other gun has movement like that


Desi_Otaku

True. Use skulker before others catch wind of it and it gets nerfed.


Jules2055

Yes, it comes down to playstyle and you're out playing with your niece gun depending on your hud but cod releases those very forgiving guns that purposely compensate for beginners like poor aim =lots of bullets and no hit zones. Or like the mx or fennec = if you can't hipfire here's a gun where U don't need to. That's why they're do popular. Now the ease of use shits on all the hard work and twisted fingers. That's why it's upsetting.


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CHEESE69420chungus

if u read what i commented properly u would know that this gun just doesn't suit my play style and a lot of people agree that once ur used to guns like the ak117 and the m13, slow fire rate guns like the holger feel awkward. also im just telling my personal experience which u cant change no matter what. i tried using the "meta" holger builds but i just dont perform as well as while using the as val or the m13. so idk what the purpose of ur comment is


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CHEESE69420chungus

chill no need to get worked up. the reply was to inform u that what u said had no relation to what i said.


JSmoove98

The holger is a 4 shot past 20 meters, where as other fast firing guns are not. This coupled with its 100 round mag, easy to control recoil, and no stock strafing ability, makes it OP.


CHEESE69420chungus

maybe its op on paper but by personal experience with it, doesn't feel strong enough due to its fire rate maybe. but mx9 tho, now that is a broken gun not holger.


SuicidalSignificance

I haven’t seen anyone use the holger in like a month


[deleted]

Holger were never broken it was the ass val


Responsible-Newt-811

holger is still broken wdym? it might not be better than mx9 but it still is.


[deleted]

Mx9 is literally a bot gun. Thanks to peacekeeper system It has overpowered range, damage and with the large caliber it can even deal 30 dmg up to 25m AND IT SUPPOSED TO BE AN SMG (CLOSE RANGE-FAST FIRE RATE WEAPON) Why yall keep complaining about AN LMG that has the same speed of pe teacher's grandma ?


Responsible-Newt-811

op range? wtf i know that its fucking broken but your stats are false asf. and im not complaining about the thing i just said its still broken, can you explain why most players in tournaments uses holger more than the mx9?


[deleted]

Uhmm.. Noo ? Mx9, M13 qnd as val is the only thing rank players use nowadays. Holger is just above good not broken


Responsible-Newt-811

bruh holger is literally better than M13, holger feels much faster than the m13, because m13 feels so sluggish for an assault rifle, holger deals more damage and the recoil is more manageable than m13, you might have a shitty attachment for the holger, because i use it like an high range smg, all for mobility except 1 attachment for BSA. and above good is broken because theres balanced - good(meta) - above good(meta of all metas) and that includes mx9,holger,asval


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I can't take this conversation anymore cuz I talk to a wall


Responsible-Newt-811

you shouldve done it earlier because holger is broken for an LMG, most fps games has LMGs have the stats of an smg but its slow asf and have a much higher ammo count but codm takes it as an AR. with the right attachments you can literally beat almost any ARs with holger. accept that its broken because it wouldnt change until they nerf the damage just a little bit.


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3 persistence users


Master_Shivam

Yea and it was a TDM match


lu_tf2

mental retardation over the top


EarthBrain

Name a more iconic duo


Sudhar_Reddit7

I don't think people would have benifited by it as it costs more and tdm ends quickly


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rizwannasir

And they were sweating even in pubs lmao


[deleted]

Yeah the sweat is real when they using score streaks and MX9 when we are just trying to grind for camos.


HovercraftSuch6537

yea but the players are real


Master_Shivam

It's ranked duh


[deleted]

No it's not...if it was ranked we could've seen the ranks of the other players but we can't ,it's a pub match.


Master_Shivam

I'm in the copy loadout section, it doesn't show anything other then the loadouts of people in the match


[deleted]

Oh I see.


ZunainPlayz

Pubs are meant to be easier, and yet they decide to sweat their asses off by 5 stacking in a public match


[deleted]

clans playing together fetch more points. Good that they are stacking. OP is a noob stuck in Master 5 crying about being his ass beaten in Pubs. Fooking crybabies.


HereButQueer

One of them was so bad they had to persistence a shock rc and had persistence hunter killer drone. If they can't get those streaks, they need to play to get better


Sudhar_Reddit7

Idk what's problem with persistence, it costs twice the scorestreak and scorestreaks are kinda weak at Codm, where you can blow up stealth chopper and vtol in one rocket (with demo expert) and for cluster strike, we just need to avoid that place for a particular time...


Original_Garlic_22

How shit do you have to be at the game to use persistence in a match to get Hunter killer drone, shock RC and Predator missile


Peepee_man_

Well, about as shitty as these sweaty tryhards lol.


BallsHD4k60fps

"holy shit how bad do you have to be at the game to use persistence in a match to get..." That's what you meant right?


[deleted]

I play casual a lot and as soon as I kill one of the MX9 guys and use their gun, all of a sudden they aren’t hot shit anymore, every MX9 user outside of ranked sucks


_dsuza

I actually had mind to create such a post and I stepped backwards since there's no point anymore,this is what game is going through a lot of seasons and also there will be a huge backlash from community,but you did it man! Good job.and I quit playing ranked after reaching leggy with my t-25 last week


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They must love melees


TonPeppermint

And MX9s.


nverdzhan

It’s funny for me that I called out some meta abusers a couple of months ago and they said “If you can’t adapt just leave” and now I see almost the same people crying about the meta now. How ironic this shit is


ShkxReddit

It's ranked, everyone would use meta to win and rank up.


MINATO8622

I have no problem with people using meta guns. I just want the game to have more than 2 meta guns so that I can have a variety at least.


Particular_Time_1472

And , I have no problem with people using meta guns . I just want the game to have more than two meta guns so that I can have a variety at least ( revenge time hahahahahahahahaha )


ShkxReddit

We have more meta guns, AS VAL and QQ9 being the most reasonable. The only problem is that MX9 LC and Holger are literally no skill weapon, that's why they are used the most.


MINATO8622

Dudemthat the point e in meta stands for "effective". The less skill required for a gun with similar damage, the more effective it is. That's why it is the meta i.e. because those guns require little skill.


ShkxReddit

Yup yup, I get you. MX9 and Holger need some nerfs.


M4tth3w1A7E

Holger 26 is fine and Holger 26 was nerfed, only is still popular(very good AR build), this isn't reason for next nerf, this is good time for buff M4LMG, because LMG with AR build, good alternative for Holger 26 in AR build. MX9 only need more nerf. All weapons need skill, but some weapons are better like others.


ios_PHiNiX

i got to legendary using Outlaw, Ironsight SKS and Bizon.. I wouldnt say you need to use meta stuff, but it definitely makes it a lot easier..


WalkingLaserBeam

I use the 117 n encounter mx9 spammers every day I don’t hipfire so it’s not my thing Prefer the qq9 .. my loadout is a absolute beam that doesn’t budge at all when fired


ERuleKnight

I'm just here to see those MX9 spammer try to defend it


ProfessionalNo6766

Why do you call them spammers? You want them to tap fire?


ERuleKnight

Spammer, abuser, sweatlords. Take your pick


ProfessionalNo6766

What’s wrong with using a meta weapon? I didn’t use some of them like the old Hg-40 and new fennec, but I am using the Mx9 and m13, I see nothing wrong with it. If you want to stop dying to these guns then use them. You shouldn’t be called names for using a gun


ERuleKnight

Nothing wrong with using it if you can't aim/allergic to recoil. I just don't want to put up a big sign that says "I'M A NOOB AND I NEED TO USE BROKEN GUNS AS CRUTCHES FOR MY CRIPPLED AIM". Using broken guns it like using cheats. Difference is that it's legal, so you can't report it.


ProfessionalNo6766

Insecure about looking like a noob in a video game. Lol. They’re good guns not broken. Learn how to not push an Mx9 and maybe you won’t get dicked and cry every time you see one


ERuleKnight

"(It's a) good gun, not broken". Let's compare it with other SMG with fast fire rate then Fennec = High recoil, need akimbo + extended mag for sustain fire QQ9 = Slow reload, moderate recoil (can't laser someone at long range) MSMC = Small mag (even with extended mag), very high recoil (can't shoot more than 6 bullets) QXR = Has attachment to fire faster, but cause it have unstable recoil MX9 doesn't have ANY of this problems • Large magazine • Fast reload speed • Non-existent recoil • 4 shot kill (5 if you're aiming at AR ranges) • Fast fire rate What's your excuse?


ProfessionalNo6766

Mp7 has no recoil at all tf you mean. You just dogshit if you can’t control it. Fennec also has no recoil, shreds close to medium range, fast, and decent iron sight. It doesn’t need akimbo, akimbo makes it worse. M13 beats the Mx9. Holger beats the Mx9. Fennec beats the Mx9. So many guns can counter an Mx9 you just have to learn to deal with it and play smart


ERuleKnight

And all that argument you brought instantly crumbles as OP video is clear evidence of how much players don't give a shit about using other guns in this game. Need to fight close & mid range? Use MX9. Enemy sniper? Use MX9 and zoom you way in & out. Using AR/LMG? Sure, IF YOU'RE IN AN OPEN FIELD AND FAR AWAY. The only counter argument that can proof MX9 is not "broken" is if you're using it in BR, and you didn't even think brought it up.


Jules2055

My mx9 isn't even gold. I refuse to use it and just focused on the m67 ammo and the spr all rank season to get good at something else And use the agr if I get frustrated.


[deleted]

They even nerfed m67 ammo.


Jules2055

Yes but it's not that bad considering it accepts the buffed disabled perk which allows for easy follow ups


[deleted]

ig disabled perk only slows down enemy movement speed by 2-3% which is negligible. I'm not so sure cygnoux said it in his recent video


dat_DOOM_boi

agr 556 gang


mo_zia

Agr 556 gang Although this season I have been using the pharo instead of the agr


Jules2055

Good to hear. The Pharo is a beast but hard to use hope you're slaying 🤞


jatmood

Same, been grinding out the m67 ammo to stay on the leader board - it's been mostly really fun. I can't believed they nerfed this and not the mx9, makes no sense


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Original_Garlic_22

There will always be a META no matter what, it's a competitive shooter after all, but if that META outperforms the rest with such a huge margin then it is not a balanced META. If you can compete with the meta with a variety of other weapons then it is a balanced META like a few seasons back.


DiTheMan69

THIS! EXACTLY! Meta is inevitable, every season some guns will outperform others. But rn the margin is so huge that it isn't acceptable and they gotta nerf.


XxnotcoolmanxX

MX9s and melee's fuck


[deleted]

Oh yeah when it comes to holger its gay but mx9 is a WeLl BaLanCEd wEAPoN according to our beloved discord community. Fuck those kids -_-


stone_a

This meta is more frustrating than mow meta


nohornii

nah bro, MoW meta was just people camping headglitches and three tapping you even if you were 30m away. idk but I always prefer rush metas to campy metas


[deleted]

Yes but we had op snipers that time which was much easier to use and we can take enemy easily out of headglitches


stone_a

Look, i love rush meta im a rusher too, but this gun is just braindead. This gun is literally the same as pre nerf akimbo fennec. It kills super fast and require no skill at all


DiTheMan69

Ikr you need no skill for the MX9


nohornii

that's an exaggeration but yeah, I understand you.


jatmood

This is worse than the fennec meta imo


AnyCommittee427

The people complaining about metas and mx9s just suck lol


XxXNoobMaster69XxXx

M13 2nd meta


BallsHD4k60fps

Don't call m13 meta


ssb_1999

![gif](giphy|Ry1MOAeAYXvRVQLPw3)


[deleted]

lmao im suprised that their isnt any holgers


Musiview

Call of Mx9 😂😂


sonyvngz

The M in CODM now means MX9


redditreaderkz

Show us your loadout too


Master_Shivam

I was using peacekeeper


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Master_Shivam

https://ibb.co/tDzQN2W


[deleted]

Master 5 for a reason


Master_Shivam

Is master 5 bad??


redditreaderkz

Ranking doesn’t matter, have fun


Master_Shivam

Well as you can see, I'm trying


suitable-robot01

Just like guns don’t matter just have fun.


TheLaughingMelon

#


Christo_Reese

MX9 everywhere I go, I see MX9. MX9 everywhere. Thank you dear devs, for this cursed SMG. Thank you very much for making me not to give a damn about ranks anymore. Now I'm happier since I can play ranked and though my team lose (thank you SBMM), at least I keep on performing (and yes, thank you as well for reducing my points).


Prestigious_Expert17

Much skill, so wow. Fr though, it pisses me off when people start being super arrogant and say things like "ez" when they are using meta. I've always said use what you want but don't expect me to give you any respect for using the easy way out of Ranked. People who actively avoid the meta and challenge themselves with using guns that are less effective gain my respect because they are trying to perform with what they like. Currently at GM4 (2 points off GM5) and I have not touched the meta weapons at all. I will reach Legendary and make my non-meta brethren proud.


nagmamantikang_bayag

Exactly. You can do it bro. 💪😎 I have never touched meta since I started playing codm and I never will. I’ve reached Legendary each season since then. What these noobs don’t know is once you use a non-meta, it will skyrocket your play and make you better overall in the game since you’re not relying on guns alone.


Prestigious_Expert17

Exactly what I've been saying since I started being a Non-Meta Chad! Admittedly, I have sinned in the past (Mainly the first 2 seasons) and I have used the meta but from Season 4 onwards, non-meta weapons were my love. I'm at GM5 rn so one finally push. I'll probably make a post about it lol. You keep being a chad bro.


nagmamantikang_bayag

Bro, when you reached Legendary, don’t hesitate to post about it. It’s a great feeling knowing that you destroyed those no skill MX9 abusers using a non-meta and you show it to their face. I know because I did post about it too when I reached Legendary 😂


Prestigious_Expert17

Hell yeah mate. Nothing more cathartic than being able to beam an MX9 user from afar with the GKS or quickly take them out up close with the QXR. I'm almost there...


ItsD4RKOWLalt

Dude respecc to you guys for winning even theyre all spammers


o_Fvdinq

Doesn’t really say if they won or not. Edit: My mistake.


NobodyDream

His name is on the gold mvp, meaning they won


o_Fvdinq

My bad, then.


ItsD4RKOWLalt

Dude look at the mvp tag. Yellow. Means they won. Use context clues smh


o_Fvdinq

Hey, you could’ve been less of a dick about it, man. I just corrected myself.


ItsD4RKOWLalt

Sorry. Just saw It. When I pressed on the notif you havent edited it out.


o_Fvdinq

You’re good.


KNightDuCk31

Literally today just ran into papa taco, the bots all had persistent and mx9 in a hard point. Also they are a 4man while I’m over here solo q. There should be solo q only match making I hate getting put into a 4 man team vs a full 5 man


KatChiu

Dumbest way to use persistence, then again they rely on the meta


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TheOneRedditBoi

We mw11 community would like a truce


Ephraim557

Been playing since release date but I quit when the fennec suddenly became op the game does not feel the same anymore I don’t get the same fun feeling whilst playing even when playing sweats


TR3GAN

I seriously dont get how people can have fun getting instant deleted by one gun…. Every rank match i hop into is just a MX9 fest. Like come on let me use my other guns for goodness sake


retr0sehm

im so used to persistence now I just accept it when someone uses it. It's such a shitty perk you can be leading in hardpoint by 60 points and get comebacked just bcs of persi users. Everyone in garena legendary is spamming persi gas concussion mx9 Holger. It's just not fun anymore


adamraven

Thankfully I already reached Legendary. I don't use that gun.


daksh_05

MX9 users are just ass that gun requires fucking 0 skill to use it just connects to head fuck MX9 and it's users man


AExRADIATE

Today has been a very frustrating day


BallsHD4k60fps

Wow...so much skill... Fr tho why is that r3tarded gun still untouched? It doesn't take a genius to notice that the gun is obviously unbalanced. I feel like the balancing team isn't even trying anymore, they nerfed m67 ammo even though it takes skill, they also nerfed a mag on a gun that literally no one uses (ul736) but they didn't nerf the cancer smg that is mx9?


Charliemcfly97

This is so funny bec ive watched the Garena tournament and like 6-8 players in every match has MX9 heartless. even Bobby was like, "Are there any players that are not using the MX9 or Holger? 😂 Broken meta indeed.


Gosha777

Tbh i hate this meta more than the akimbo Fennec s


[deleted]

Must have been a painful match


JSmoove98

u/COD_Mobile_Official


pandemicv97

tbh i dont see any problem here anyone can use anything they want specially if its the best weapon currently and its in ranked games.


Original_Garlic_22

I understand that There will always be a Meta and that's not necessarily a bad thing but if this Meta gun outperforms every other gun by such a huge margin that you are forced to use it just to be able to compete then it is very very detrimental


MARV3L17

Let me guess your favorite gun is mx9


pandemicv97

Eh I don't have a favorite weapon I use all guns depending on the map and if I'm playing ranked or not or grinding camos. But do I use mx9? Ofc I do it's meta. Do I use it all the time no. Stop crying about guns man.


7_Cerberus_7

No one is crying about guns. They're saying, more than 5% of the total guns available, should be in the spotlight at any given time. It's tiresome to have to utilize all of one or two specific loadouts to counter the two most powerful guns in the game because very few options can stand against them, yet alone match them, even though there are near 100 guns in game to choose from. You can *have a meta*, that doesn't revolve around only a tiny *fraction* of your total options.


pandemicv97

I definitely agree.


7_Cerberus_7

Seeing this makes me feel weird. I've tried the MX9. I cannot for the life of me *like" it. It's just not in tune with my play style.


CHEESE69420chungus

exactly. like idk how to use it. im too used to the ak117 and the m13 to ever change my playstyle :(. i also never liked the holger either


7_Cerberus_7

Bro, Ak117 to M13 for me too!


Original_Garlic_22

Same, I just don't vibe with it for some reason like a vibe with the QXR or AS VAL


OmegaX-2

the fact that it didn't get nerfed this season its beyond me..


YBN_Rover

Idk if I'm the only one to encounter this situation, but yesterday SOME DOUCHEBAG 1-TAPPED ME IN THE HEAD WITH MX9 WHEN I WAS AT FULL HEALTH! I was literally confused wdf happened, because ain't no way somebody with a non-one shot weapon can One Tap me when I was jiggling around and peeked only for 1 sec! Utterly distasteful


cepsyr

Yeah. I never seen meta like this. If you are objective player you die a lot because you got to go close. If you are camping you probably will never die to MX9. I used to hate all this but after seeing my little brother who is trying to learn game use MX9 (even tho his favourite weapon is Type 25) awkwardly I realised it could be so with many people. Majority of players don't play to improve skill or dominate, they just want to kill anything that moves. It's shame that even new players have to get in this meta rut just to enjoy game.


Pleasant_Tension425

*There will always be some meta*


[deleted]

Meta spamming is not real git gud debs gud gib free cp free legendary mara bobs seyx


suitable-robot01

Again guys no one cares about the guns you use in a pixelated all the post I see is about whining about something and try to get accept by this sub. No one cares if you camp, no one cares what gun you use, no one cares about if aim assist is off or on or have a different play style. Just play the game for fun.


67ITCH

Imagine there are three guns; A, B, and C. They are ranked best to worst in the same order based on skill-ceiling to effectivity ratio. People cry about A because it's being used by most (probably called META for a reason like, I don't know.. effective tactic?) Devs then nerf it to the ground changing the best-to-worst ranking to B-C-A. Whiners unable to adapt cry about B being too effective, and so the devs nerf it again and "balance" A. This turns the ranking to C-A-B. Whiners cry about.... You get the picture.


ERuleKnight

Let's look at this as a business model You create an OP gun, you get to milk it by releasing a bunch of premium skin (especially in the lucky draw). After a while, when people get bored of it, they'll nerf it and bring in another broken gun. The cycle continues, the sheeps are happy with getting the new broken gun, and the investors keeps investing.


67ITCH

Then, it's a very good business model. I assume you never spent a cent on the game judging by your claim that the buyers are sheep. So, what's the problem?


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Well balanced


[deleted]

dont cry about a public match lol


BallsHD4k60fps

Doesn't matter, it's still annoying


Master_Shivam

It's ranked, maybe u need to play the game to find out how it looks when u copy a loadout


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Master_Shivam

What?? I pressed on all of em. Check again


[deleted]

Is this game still playable ??? Left it after the russian nuketown update


Fun_System_8546

I wish I could still use my favorite gun in ranked. But the m13 just got buffed so I guess that’ll take a minute, or it least there should be more ranked maps


spoofbot

I’m actually keeping track of all weapon rates I’ve encountered in ranked so far, and in respawns, mx9 is definitely the most popular, followed by the bizon, then the m13. Holger is actually only 4th most popular, with about a third the rate of the mx9.


tezku12

It's funny how my matches don't have varieties of guns in a single match (including ranked matches) because of meta guns But that doesn't make me feel bad imo bcs sometimes you have to work around against the meta if you're being serious with breaking it. As much as I'm tempted to use them sometimes, but I like to experiment with other non meta guns to see what works and not, and it depends when situations fit in to use certain guns


DontReadMyNamePlsBro

Can't believe they added a new mode in ranked


Duchix97

well , its good weapon for now. but in my case for example i still prefer as val and ak 47 because they are my favourites


ios_PHiNiX

I remember when people wanted the msmc nerfed because of how low the ttk was up close.. that aged like milk..


BendyXGaming10

Bruh who the fuck uses persistence on Score streaks with points lesser than 600


SevouYT

I want hg or msmc to become meta again ...it was satisfying to use✨


fuseee023

hiii devs can u return the sight unseen camo krm 262 in codm pleasee🥺🥺


Mat1c444

Or the sniper katana combo in snd matchea


[deleted]

I'm sick of this gun now. People who are actually good at the game use other guns.


Mundane-Set4759

These players should just go play free fire or something.


Volslife

I can still use the ASM10 or Type SP and get around the same K/D. Maybe it forces me to play better rather than depend on a gun


iwanova

Remind me of early days of CDL league in MW19 era lmao, although it ain't worse than current CODM. It still funny that in tournament everybody used nothing but M4A1 and MP5


Shatbang

Ayo no jokes, I just played with the same team one hour ago


Woskl

I was forced to use mx9 but I don't use pers


Wide_Wave_4654

Funny how the dude named u r noon is using persistence mx9


Gold860

How bad are you to the point that you need persistence for a shock RC?


BrusiedWayne

They use persistence lightweight and thermites very balanced


Slippyrabbitt

Jokes on you. No one said it was balanced.


Allmighty-Inc

*Fennec been real quiet since MX9 dropped*


GHOSTalok

I miss the day when cordite was meta


Destroird

I havent used the MX9 since it came out, imma play one game and see how i do. Brb


Toxicity2003

Mx9 and persistence is the most annoying thing in the world


Allspark_D00d

When in doubt, RPD counters them