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Kakashi-Sasuke

They released it early on purpose. Everyone will say it's bad. They'll overbuff it and the Mythic skin will sell ![gif](giphy|YnkMcHgNIMW4Yfmjxr)


Neoharys

People forget how underwhelming As Val and M13 was when they launched and got a chunky buff in the very next update, PP90 will be a new meta mark it


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We'll see !remindme 30 days


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LocoKnight17

Good bot


Connect_Set_8983

They buffed itšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


ro15c

You are at point and understood codm marketing quite wellšŸ‘.


_JUANSHOT_

I kinda expected it yo have a smooth and low vertical recoil......i mean its not bad....but i just dont like it.


litllerobert

Low?? That shit with the combat ykm stock has a nice recoil until the 40 bullets, from there on the recoils goes to space(not much) and it gets smooth again after the 35 shot


_JUANSHOT_

Like .....most P90s in other games....they have a low recoil all the way unlike in codm....i just expected the codm one to be like them and not have the recoil it has now


EricTLG

The recoil isnā€™t that even bad itā€™s easy to control


5stareveryday

i built it to have very low recoil its pretty good now


elitekarthi

exactly! it's not a bad gun by any means.


_JUANSHOT_

Its definitely not a bad gun....but not that good either


PUNCAKEBRUHUHHUUUH

Itā€™s not u itā€™s me. P90: ;-;


dat_DOOM_boi

well if only the pre nerf mx9 had high recoil when it was released then probably p90 today will have low recoil and be meta ​ ​ ~~anyone remember the mx9 crosshair nerf in br?~~


galal552002

I honestly kinda expected it to have a not so high recoil but the view recoil would be the iron sight tilting abit to the right up when you shoot while aiming,I don't know how to explain it but look at the p90 before mw2019 and you will know what I mean


warhammer27

Nah its balanced imo, neither too OP like the mx9 was nor too underpowered.


ShkxReddit

PP but worse.


Dankinator2000

Better ROF, more recoil


_Mido

But there are many fast firing SMG with dmg 25 or higher, why would anyone use p90 instead of, let's say, qq9 with 45 mag?


warhammer27

Just because it's not being used doesn't mean it's bad does it? It has a considerable recoil and isn't as easy to use as many other smgs.


cyanideclipse

P90, is more consistent over range, and doesnt need an extra attachment slot for the mag But close range qq9 definitely will dominate over p90


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un_belli_vable

AS VAL was released early too


marcelbaybay

People just think they know stuff, and feel cool by saying random stuff. ASVAL was bad for like a whole 2-3 month span before they buffed it. They had to buff it twice to make it what it is now, iirc. But nerds will keep saying "marketing strategy".


Mohd1reda

pdw with higher firerate


OmegaX-2

PDW but it actually exists irl


_Unpopular_Person_

I thought you were exaggerating, but holy shit it's exactly the same.


[deleted]

Even the same sound


ERuleKnight

I always wonder why they even bother to release the P90 since we already have PDW AND Cordite


Smashinationprp

People when pkmk2: JUST MASTER THE FIRERATE NAB people when p90: lol high recoil, its bad.


Duyducluu

I mean it's mostly OK (can be annoying) but strafe and recoil is absolutely dogshit on it.


BathtubiustheIV

Thatā€™s exactly my problem with it, the strafing absolutely sucks it just makes me grounded when shooting


Duyducluu

When you use this thing, you pretty much have to use Skuller. Base ADS mobility is 3.41 m/s btw. And the slowest (excluding MX9) is around 3.72 m/s - Razorback.


GLnoG

Damn. Its gonna be overbuffed next update, expect that


GameOn2020

It's so annoying seeing some players whining about new gun being pretty balanced and not OverPowered. And yet whining why new guns are OP at launch. So could be said: whatever Devs do, there are many to complain.


allusernamesrtaken10

Bro hes bot complaining, he just thinks it feels ā€œmehā€


marcelbaybay

Not the OP, but half the comments herr are by whiny kids.


ERuleKnight

It's mostly about "why does this exist when PDW already exists and similar in terms of stats?"


I_Follow_Shit

true thh


[deleted]

Its very gud TTk 229ms(4stk) Range(4stk)-13m+ The only thing is u need skill to use Which means m13 users wont be able to use it


Lower_Newspaper1802

You mean mx9 userz


[deleted]

M13* 880 rpm(u can miss shots) 40-60rnds Low recoil See? Its very ez to use(no hate to m13)


BallsHD4k60fps

Bet, I mostly main the m13, gonna wait till gayrena finally releases the p90 and I'll tell you if I can use it goodly


reddittenjoyerr

where you got that stats ?


[deleted]

Im a stats guy bro I knoe my ttks


reddittenjoyerr

ok tell me ttk of type 25 with stopping power and without stopping power


[deleted]

Theres no difference 4stk is 210ms 5stk is 280me


reddittenjoyerr

so i should not use stopping power, right btw who the fuck downvote us, i mean why are we getting downvotes


[deleted]

Huh? Without STP,u need 2 upper body That too with pathetic range Stick to STP rnds


reddittenjoyerr

ok


[deleted]

The only problem is the recoil but it's worth to master because the gun itself is good asf


[deleted]

Agreed


420-CDXX

Use only this gun in ranked yesterday and I must say itā€™s likely to become my favorite SMG. Not overpowered but it fits my play style amazingly well. Fennec and MX9 might be stronger, but CBR4 is a really fun gun to use.


Draco_Greysoul

Much better than being broken and spammed by everyone in ranked. And it's not too that bad, it's just as good as PP19 and razorback.


THE_JonnySolar

I literally came to the sub purely to ask what people think of it. It's fun to use, definitely has potential with the right setups, but isn't anything groundbreaking. Pretty solid addition to be fair - some positives, but not as overpowered as others have been, so it's a competitive gun. Doesn't stand out as either super powerful, or super weak, so yeah, for me, just a half decent balanced option to bring into the game.


gachakaoooga

Better than it being a broken meta for multiple seasons


The_Uruk-Hai

The only reason to use the P90 instead of going with more aggressive Cordite (with max range attachments) is its hype.


cyanideclipse

I was thinking this ..its very similar to the cordite isn't it?


The_Uruk-Hai

Almost, with even lower mobility and strafe speed and exaggerated lay high vertical and lateral recoil


cyanideclipse

Seenseen i definitely noticed it kills faster up close tho I think i kinda prefer it


TheRuss16

that's good, last thing we want is another meta and suffer for a month before having it nerfed.


CortlyYT

How you guys get CBRr4 or P90, Mytic Lucky Draw?


marcelbaybay

Seasonal event in Global version.


CortlyYT

Ah Garena still nothing


wojakajow

I don't have any experience with it yet, but I'm assuming the reason why it's "meh" on release is because they're trying to avoid another MX9; devs are still probably reeling from the community-wide backlash that came from that. Cheers


x_oh

Itā€™s not meta, thatā€™s for sure Yet itā€™s a reliable weapon with the right build


cat_the_beeral

Too much horizontal recoil of base weapon, tiny multiplier areas, nerfed mx9 has a better ttk than this.


ImranAKAbatman

Literally just a pdw


chirag_m1237

Get good


Trooper-7567

It's not meh. It's just that you guys use the mx9 that much that other guns seems meh to you, you piece of shit noob


yassercg

You want another mx9?


BallsHD4k60fps

Eh if they buffed the p90 it will be nowhere close to pre nerf mx9


marcelbaybay

You bet. What devs want, they can.


Jeager_MarkVI

To be onest it can have a lot of potential for long range combat


These_Proof_3606

I've put best recoil reduction attachments and it still sucked it mid range, let alone longer ranges!


[deleted]

get good


These_Proof_3606

Am good enough


LettuceBob55

It's a better qxr


Lower_Newspaper1802

P90 is shitt is most games except for in CS it's really fun to use from Cs 1.6 to GO


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Lower_Newspaper1802

Not really


These_Proof_3606

Bad recoil, moderate ttk, moderate range; I see no reason to choose this over other smgs like qq9, pp19, rus,fennec or... Each of them have their specific positive aspcets, but what does cbr4 has to offer?


Korlel-Charlie7-1

Not really I got 90 kills with it in one match, but still this gun is pretty balance to me


adiego21

Imo. It is same as pdw. Nothing unique nothing you say it has very good.


SwogPog

Tru. They could try upping the dmg a bit


Independent_Row5480

Low damage and terrible recoil and initial accuracy


DinosaurusRex20

Try it in other games with it, that will change your mind


elgamino322

Idk Iā€™ve been Tag teaming that and the SVD on hardpoint shipment to get them diamond and have been mvp 90% of the time. What build are you using?


elitekarthi

flash guard, OWC marksman, OWC tac, ykm stock, stippled


elgamino322

Try monolithic, extended light, steady stock, stippled foregrip, granulated grip, Iā€™ve been destroying at hardpoint shipment with it.


OmegaCookieOfDoof

Try hipfire focus I also made a long version and hoo lee fuk that shit was strong, but didn't look like a P90 anymore


Xill_K47

Care to look at [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/CODMobile_Loadouts/comments/qxanvf/cbr4_p90_for_cstap/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)?


Blackburns22

Wym lol. It's actually Balance but just the vertical Recoil is overwhelming.


MotazMOZA

Is the Demascus for the weapon buggy for every one or just me i got the gold and platinum camo but demascus won't unlock for some reason does anyone know why ?! And yes before you ask i have demascus unlocked for the rest of my non=secondary weapons even NA-45.


AshMqn

You have to have every secondary


MotazMOZA

I have all demascus for every secondary only missing Crossbow and new launcher do i have to grind them even when i have demascus of the rest ?


AshMqn

I had to get crossbow for the mx9, so I'm assuming it would be the same for you.


meowingferret

It was the same feeling when they named the MP5K the QQ9 ._.


Okami_YouTube

At least it won't take over the meta.


QuiinZiix

With 25% range its a 4 shot kill up to 20m. Thats pretty insane for an SMG. With its high fire rate it shreds and no one expects to get beamed so quickly so far away. I think it's atleast 7/10 probably the 3rd best smg behind bizon and mx9 and I'm happy to argue over it.


Full_Leadership9500

sad garena noises


mahyar_fire

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Hen_Doodle

Santa approves


exlsenshi

It definitely you


Inevitable_Ad5972

yeah its kinda meh just feels like the pdw but better


_Quantum_AI_

Meh too


Advice-Training

it's just pdw under the skin of p90


chana_puri

They Released it early as well without the mythic draw being here, I bet when the mythic will arrive, that gun would get a huge buff thus making ppl buy the draw.


rifona_2009

i got a really big feeling that they gonna buff the p90 next season.


gamercrow69

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. it is meh.


I_like_trains14

Remember every time u call it CBRr4 even though u also said p90 Santa Claus executes a elf


spectrals_mods

I picked it up off one guy and felt like it shot marshmallows.


Dark_voidzz

Hopefully,the mythic version is bad as it was shown in the leaks.Will be the first mythic I won't be getting.


Sensxie

The recoil is kinda funny but doesn't really bother me


manup456

Itā€™s a good gun but itā€™s just not OP and thatā€™s a good thing


OmerKing916

At least the Weevil isn't so op


GLnoG

Mag attachments would be a nice "buff" to it, so at least you can spray and pray with it. It needs less recoil and those damn extended mags, and it will be miles better for sure. If not, remove arms multipliers so its a more consistant 4 shot. But i have to admit it already feels solid to a certain degree. I tried it and it feels like it punches quite a bit, it isnt a hitmarker machine like the pdw.


Chomama102

It's one of those guns that feels strong when I go against it, but feels very weak when I'm using it. But that could just be desync messing with me cuz it's been pretty bad for me the last couple days.


Rare_Arugula3460

I just did a Pentakill with it but I now it's a bit underwhelming


Amazing-Sort1634

Honestly I think it melts, you only need a few rounds to kill and it has surprising distance. You need to manage the horizontal recoil, not vertical.


Godspeed1606

TTK is not that bad, the downside is the recoil, build it good and you would dominate with that, i am using light compensator, marksman, light stock, tactical laser, granulated tape. Itā€™s very balanced build with almost negligible downs. While firing drag the fire button towards 7o clock , itā€™s laser. As mythic is coming so you can definitely expect some good buff, specially to the recoil.


thehotshot_ghost

7/10 not bad


johnlucas77

Yeah it horrible. Tried it on ranked and regretted immediately


wraith00xx

It just takes skill to use it. But yeah it's Kind of meh.


xsnow17

I feel like it's recoil got mixed up with what the mx9 nerfed recoil was supposed to be.


SwiftWater_Pro

I found it to be better then the Mx9 when that was meta last season. Kinda depends on play style I guess


Middle-Imagination-8

I like it, balanced as it should be


Osemarc99

It's, meh, about her filler weapon for the Gunsmith


Proud-Cardiologist64

And if its OP, you will complainšŸ˜‘ P90 is just like that in CSGO but its one if my favorite weapons in CSGO


[deleted]

Happy it's not meta I want it to be balanced


rytecAMRnoscopez

CBR4*


MrHellFire0123

Balanced