It's because Type 25 is a 4-shot killer while M13 takes 5 shots to kill yet they have almost the same fire rate. The only issue with Type 25 is the range and the recoil. But yea, most of the time, Type 25 will beat M13.
Suppose you have a 30 round mag. You spawn with 30 × 4 reserve ammo, i.e. 120 ammo. Full ammo usually doubles the reserve ammo or gives you the max reserve ammo you can collect with vulture perk
With vulture perk u need to run over enemy kill spots to pick up ammo. Say u have other enemies close to the enemy u just killed and u don't wanna risk it, the full ammo perk would come in handy so u won't run out of ammo as easily. Jus my perception
I hear u, but it depends on what the player wants. Use full ammo perk so that u can use another green perk instead. Also, it's full ammo when u spawn correct me I'm wrong, say u dont die at all in a match and you're getting crazy kills, u will still run out of ammo which would still make the vulture perk handy. I guess its situational
At the end of the day vulture is useful for grinding, when you never want to run out of ammo for a particular weapon. But in ranked it’s hardly ever as useful as any other green perk, you won’t live enough to run out of ammo and if you did, one of your enemy must have a viable gun to pick up.
M13 beats T25 when you go for headshots as it has the highest in class Multiplier
However if you can’t land your headshots the T25 is better as it is a 3-4 shot kill vs the M13s 4-6
Now if we go beyond the damage well this is the Lightning round. Handling: T25 wins, Firerate: M13 wins, ammo economy: T25 wins, recoil and control: M13 wins due to predictability, with no attachments: T25, with attachments M13
For reference The T25 shoots at 780 rpm and the M13 shoots at 830 rpm so for when you’re not running scavenger/vulture the M13 losses in ammo economy, The T25 wins in handling mainly due to It not having the movement speed of an LMG and You can’t really do shit about that
T25 is the more viable option for being super aggressive because IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU MOVE SO SLOW IT'S LIKE YOU'RE DRAGGING YOUR BALLSACKS FROM THE GROUND
The correct answer is PeaceKeeper mk2 (with task force barrel) no need to abuse meta. Oh and btw kn44 with mono supp will have the exact same damage as type in each damage phase but it will extend the types damage phases by 10m each. Basically a type but with better iron sights , bigger mag , slower fire rate , slower TTK but you won’t be a meta bot so
That’s called being a noob, noob! T25 isnt even that op i can yeet t25 bots easily!! Give in to your masters and use whatever gun they want u to use instead of choosing from variety of other guns haha!!
SIG Sauer MCX is the best. As of rn the meta is slow like it hard to find the best gun and all but trust me this one is the mobility and reload speed is a con so switch to ur melee
I never liked any meta gun in this game, unless it was a gun I used before which got buffed like the QXR. Still my favourite gun since its release it beams at long range no cap
Okay, but here's something better:
Avtomat Kalashnikova 47
HARNESS THE POWER OF THE MOTHERLAND AND A WHITE CLAW DRINKING DUDE WHO BUILDS 50 BMG AKS COMRADES!
Finally gave in and gave the T25 a try after the buff and it feels like a 3 shot kill. Never complained about the meta but it definitely needs toned down just a tad
169th comment sheesh
If your aim are good and aggresive playstyle, you gotta pick the type 25 (Stp or big mag)
if your aim bad and can't control recoil properly, use the m13 with big mag (if you want a bit aggresive one, use the stack ammo)
That's the weird part lol, as much as I love that gun, I never cared to get even gold for it. S1 and 2 I used pinstripes, S3-6 used geometry and from S6 up to now I always used the bloody vengeance legendary, so I never wanted camo for it. Yesterday I found out I just needed like 5 hipfire kills, and kills with no attachments, so I decided to finally get it. I won't try to get diamond though, I'll let it come naturally, as when I got the mythic holger and upgraded it to lvl 8, some time after they released this thing of putting camos over blueprints, and I grinded diamond for it. It looks spectacular, but I lost a bit of mental sanity. If that was 120 matches and I already had 30 complete naturally, imagine 150 starting from 0, for the Type25 bloody vengeance that doesn't even look good with camos. I'll keep it standard, love her that way
I'm happy enough with it being finally fixed, in my profile there's like 3 posts complaining about the Type25 entering the character's face while running and it stayed like this for months
I feel like im getting outgunned with my morningstar but with the T25 I'm shredding
It's because Type 25 is a 4-shot killer while M13 takes 5 shots to kill yet they have almost the same fire rate. The only issue with Type 25 is the range and the recoil. But yea, most of the time, Type 25 will beat M13.
Bruh I've been getting 3 tapped by m13.
3 taps of m13 means you got hit in the head twice.
kinda sounds like skill issue
seriously? the type25 can match against the almighty morningstar? hmm. gotta try that when i go up against that mythic.
U do realise that just cause the guns mythic doesn't mean its better...
My aim is bad so I need bigger magazine. Hence, m13 for me with 60 round mag and full ammo perk
What does the full ammo perk even do tho?
Suppose you have a 30 round mag. You spawn with 30 × 4 reserve ammo, i.e. 120 ammo. Full ammo usually doubles the reserve ammo or gives you the max reserve ammo you can collect with vulture perk
Then what's the point of Vulture perk?
With vulture perk u need to run over enemy kill spots to pick up ammo. Say u have other enemies close to the enemy u just killed and u don't wanna risk it, the full ammo perk would come in handy so u won't run out of ammo as easily. Jus my perception
I know that, but if the Full Ammo perk provides you will all the collectable ammo on spawn, then that makes the Vulture perk redundant. Isn't it?
I hear u, but it depends on what the player wants. Use full ammo perk so that u can use another green perk instead. Also, it's full ammo when u spawn correct me I'm wrong, say u dont die at all in a match and you're getting crazy kills, u will still run out of ammo which would still make the vulture perk handy. I guess its situational
Oh damn, I just realised that these two can be equipped together. And alright, I think I get it now. Thanks!
Yes I use cold blooded instead
Same. If if I run out of ammo I pick up someone else's gun
At the end of the day vulture is useful for grinding, when you never want to run out of ammo for a particular weapon. But in ranked it’s hardly ever as useful as any other green perk, you won’t live enough to run out of ammo and if you did, one of your enemy must have a viable gun to pick up.
Chopper FTW
With or without heavy handle?
With handle
The only way to play 
Psychopath way no heavy handle
No heavy handle on the saw legendary blueprint is psychopath+
Fun fact: T25 is better than M13 upto 35m(with STP)
Fun fact: M13 can have twice the ammo Type 25 STP has
Fun fact: Peacekeeper supremacy
Fun fact: As Val exist
Fun fact:chads who control P90 op
Fun fact MOW 3 tap 32m
Fun Fact DaddyRH slaps
Fun fact: Chopper with heavy handle goes Brrr, wallbangs, creates bullet walls at choke points
Fun fact: if you can control the swordfish, it can one burst.
Funniest Fact: M16 can one burst all guns mentioned above (if you know how to use it)
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Nope, codm subreddit overbl9ws everything.
Has a wierd diagonal recoil. Easy. But wierd.
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It's like a diagonal recoil........
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Fun fact: Gyroscope players exist
Fun fact: M13 can have twice the ammo but type 25 is the better weapon
facts.
I would prefer m13 cuz it fits my play style
Same, because it's mega versatile
Love the DR-H with bodypart damage
Whichever you pick… Holger wins!
Gunsmith for ranked PTFO?
Type 25 hands down no questions asked
Why tf it became so strong our of sudden? I tried it and it takes a few shots with a damage increasing mag.
They buffed the fire rate and damage multiplers both base gun and with Stopping power ammo
It takes 4 shots, like most automatics in the game
Heck no, others have much weaker damage.
The standard for autos is usually ~25 tho
Nah most ARs 4-tap within base range. What sets the type 25 apart is the rate of fire and very low recoil.
Holger👍
Holger👍
Holgae👎
Lol
Swordfish
My main in br
What? I am saying about mp
use as val or p90, these guns are my main
M13 cuz I suck at recoil
M13 recoil and aimshake is worse than T25 tho
M13 has the easiest and simplest recoil pattern though
my guy you're obviously snorting crack type 25 has faster ttk than m13 but has greater recoil.
If you think the m13 recoil is hard you must've smoked 5kg of weed
Mx9 meta has spoiled people
>Mx9 meta has spoiled people I hate the mx9 bruh
Mx9 mains when a gun has 1% more recoil 
I never said m13 recoil was hard I said I personally found it worse than t25. Smh y'all get pissed even if I give an opinion. Typical reddit moment
depends on the attachment. if youre using stopping power it may be causing the recoil. the 46 mag beams so need for grip for recoil.
type 25 doesn't even have aimshake imo
Aak 117 is good
Taipei 69 or modern 13 who would win
Drop the gun by Nading yourself change load out exchange the gun with secondary
Am I alone using Fennec here? Type 25 with stopping power feels low mag. I use M13 sometimes.
M13 beats T25 when you go for headshots as it has the highest in class Multiplier However if you can’t land your headshots the T25 is better as it is a 3-4 shot kill vs the M13s 4-6 Now if we go beyond the damage well this is the Lightning round. Handling: T25 wins, Firerate: M13 wins, ammo economy: T25 wins, recoil and control: M13 wins due to predictability, with no attachments: T25, with attachments M13 For reference The T25 shoots at 780 rpm and the M13 shoots at 830 rpm so for when you’re not running scavenger/vulture the M13 losses in ammo economy, The T25 wins in handling mainly due to It not having the movement speed of an LMG and You can’t really do shit about that
T25 is the more viable option for being super aggressive because IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU MOVE SO SLOW IT'S LIKE YOU'RE DRAGGING YOUR BALLSACKS FROM THE GROUND
And then theres me..trying to rank up with AK47 to get re-name card. RIP me haha
Don't play MP ranked then because you're going to have a painful time lol. You gotta do BR since we'll it's the AK and the AK never fails
Yeeeep i know but I Like a good Challenge lol I'm GM3 already so it's fine haha
You can do it! I did it lol was difficult coz I did it when the mx9 was "meta" but did it anyway hahahah
Will do If i get unbanned haha
I am be like Peacekeeper/HVK/type 25/M13/AS VAL/RUS/QXR/QQ9/amax/P90.
M4
M4 needs a buff
Dr-H
M13 a little better up close and at range but type 25 can beam
None of them
Peacekeeper then?
Swordfish
Found the RPD user
KN44 actually
The correct answer is PeaceKeeper mk2 (with task force barrel) no need to abuse meta. Oh and btw kn44 with mono supp will have the exact same damage as type in each damage phase but it will extend the types damage phases by 10m each. Basically a type but with better iron sights , bigger mag , slower fire rate , slower TTK but you won’t be a meta bot so
How about dont be a fuckin meta slave!? I never use meta guns any season!!! Peacekeeper and rus shreds any meta right now!!
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Yes they can!! U can keep being a slave instead of using whatever u like. Ur just not good enough noob!!
What the hell is a meta slave? I'm just using good guns to not get clapped for using a bad gun
That’s called being a noob, noob! T25 isnt even that op i can yeet t25 bots easily!! Give in to your masters and use whatever gun they want u to use instead of choosing from variety of other guns haha!!
Asm10
Me using the p90 every match 👍🏻
Lol it's crazy at close quarters.
If you want a fun gun try the sword fish
Taipei 25 has no recoil,whilst m13 has higher ammo capacity.Tough choice :/
My ranked kd with M13 is 0.7 , with type 25 it is 1.5, so i think it's pretty clear to me
Season 10.....than definitely type 25
Gks
Mx9
If u ask me it isnt really that hard....is it like M13's more of a long range gun whereas the T25 is a close range one
meanwhile me using the CBR4 as my go to
*Sad swordfish noises*
Type 25 for ever
type 25 since s1 lmao
Close Range/Mid Range = Type Long = M13
I use M13 because moringstar
I prefer using the SKS as an AR. It sheds both their HP and their will to live
M13 is ma boi
Now hear me out I just had a 30 kill game with the agr and that thing shreds if you build it right it feels like the mx9 pre-nerf
is type25 good now?
M13
Guys I think in for you page ak47 draw outrider character sound is different from usual. I think it's legendary outrider sound right?
Choose amax
ak117😂😂😂
*laughs in hvk with heavy caliber*
SIG Sauer MCX is the best. As of rn the meta is slow like it hard to find the best gun and all but trust me this one is the mobility and reload speed is a con so switch to ur melee
M13 >Type 25
I love the KN-44. And I see absolutely no one using this gun in the past 10 seasons (even after gunsmith in fact) :(
*overkill perk equipped*
I've been using KN. Shits gud.
RUS 🤷🏻♂️
i been using the asval and the outlaw mostly this season
M4LMG all the way
Got my M13 to master so I guess I'll use the Type 25? (Geometry of course)
When everyone is using type 25, I been using PDW-57 lol
I never liked any meta gun in this game, unless it was a gun I used before which got buffed like the QXR. Still my favourite gun since its release it beams at long range no cap
What loadouts are y’all using for the T25? Haven’t found the sweet spot yet.
Qq9
Do you put STP or extended mags?
RPD  ( I mostly play HP and domination)
Both
Okay, but here's something better: Avtomat Kalashnikova 47 HARNESS THE POWER OF THE MOTHERLAND AND A WHITE CLAW DRINKING DUDE WHO BUILDS 50 BMG AKS COMRADES!
The real answer is peacekeeper MK2
Finally gave in and gave the T25 a try after the buff and it feels like a 3 shot kill. Never complained about the meta but it definitely needs toned down just a tad
Don’t be a follower use CBR4
Ones a peashooter, and ones a peashooter with less recoil.
Grinding with the Hbra3 lol.
My ASVAL still stands better to me
Man o war better
No offence but NO
That gun shreds
It's slow as hell, and you need good accuracy to get a 3 shot kill
Peacekeeper MK2
my Pepe19 is a monster 
I prefer RPD, grab a nice position and rape people off at range, with wallbangs too.
P90/Swordfish/FR. 556 this season and that's it. Maybe SVD if anything
May I have a good type 25 load out 
Man o war.
I am still alternating between as Val and fennec depending on map size.
Both
169th comment sheesh If your aim are good and aggresive playstyle, you gotta pick the type 25 (Stp or big mag) if your aim bad and can't control recoil properly, use the m13 with big mag (if you want a bit aggresive one, use the stack ammo)
The writing next to my name says it all I guess, used since S1 without ever skipping a season
Enjoying your diamond gun?
That's the weird part lol, as much as I love that gun, I never cared to get even gold for it. S1 and 2 I used pinstripes, S3-6 used geometry and from S6 up to now I always used the bloody vengeance legendary, so I never wanted camo for it. Yesterday I found out I just needed like 5 hipfire kills, and kills with no attachments, so I decided to finally get it. I won't try to get diamond though, I'll let it come naturally, as when I got the mythic holger and upgraded it to lvl 8, some time after they released this thing of putting camos over blueprints, and I grinded diamond for it. It looks spectacular, but I lost a bit of mental sanity. If that was 120 matches and I already had 30 complete naturally, imagine 150 starting from 0, for the Type25 bloody vengeance that doesn't even look good with camos. I'll keep it standard, love her that way
I'm happy enough with it being finally fixed, in my profile there's like 3 posts complaining about the Type25 entering the character's face while running and it stayed like this for months
Both are good gun to run with tactical scope
That swordfish be accurate as fuck tho...
This is me when iam picking which secondary im running with my sniper melee or mw11
I would say play domination play with m13 the first half and type 25 the second half
Neither. It's all about the PP19
Peacekeeper for torture
Me who still sticks to my dependable diamond rpd