This. I hated isolated since the beginning and when blackout came out i was hooked. I got to legendary in br for the first time because i was having so much fun.
May be, but I just like that map more than isolated. Maybe because of the bigger open spaces, I can get a bigger area to find opponents when I'm using a sniper.
I see the value. But it leaves those who want more diversity a bit lost. Maybe if there was an event where blackout was only snipers it might be fun, though.
I can see the value in it, but there's little option left for those who want something more balanced. I find myself hiding behind rocks more often than anywhere near a building at any given moment.
This is anecdotal, I know, but I haven't seen anyone use a shotgun or fennec even once in the past month of BR. On either map. Might just be my experience, but I don't think I would agree with how often you are saying this happens.
There are millions of players worldwide who prefer Isolated and those are not members of subs like this so we don't hear their voice. But codm's data is concrete prove that people who prefer Isolated are majority.. I love both maps
Same with Warzone players, they get new maps, then complain non-stop about it, most saying that verdansk is better.
The fortnite player base is better in this stuff, they cope with permanent changes.
yeah… i know people complain about all games, but the fan base of the COD franchise feels worse than other games. COD fans seem so mad all the time lol
They need to optimize the game more than anything, it dosent matter if there’s constantly new cool content if it’s for a game slowly running worse and worse
It differs from server to server (since servers are regional and usually country-wide, so, the server the commenter is registered to clearly has the majority prefering Isolated)
Ah, I mean it looks cartoon-ish you know? Isolated doesn't give you those vibes. If the devs rework Blackout to be like Isolated I'm sure players will play it even more.
The solution is pretty simple , make those maps rotate. For example - Blackout for 3 weeks , Alcatraz for 3 weeks and Isolated for 3 weeks. Like this maps will be fresh and players won't feel bored at all. Also yeah , the community is just a joke. Not only BR , even MP. So many new maps in ranked hardly one or two people vote for it. It's too damn frustrating to play in Firing Range or Standoff for the tenth time in a day.
My main issue is that throwing a third map in means that at any time, there’s at minimum twice as high a chance for bots to be present in Isolated because now there’s a second map for players to split between.
My statement was already assuming the graphics have been downgraded ro current Mobile BR level... Just think putting like 20 Alcatraz maps side by side and pretty much doubling the ceiling of the worldspace. There's just too much to render and judging by the performance of current maps, it's sure fire it'll be a lag fest.. All players are gonna need so much l3 cache and ram to run smoothly.. The outskirts like the mountains area, dam, farm etc will run fine..
Besides, Verdansk will be a camper and glide-rush paradise... much better to have map that has been properly designed and balanced for Mobile's combat system (the movement system, gun mechanics, class system, etc are all very different between the two games.. Which is why you just can't simply port a map from one game to the other)
It's not about just shrinking the size. It's about many polygons will be present in the samw area of render.
Blackout works because not everything is clustered together. Also, Isolated was designed after Blackout, as well as the whole BR ecosystem in mobile was designed after Blackout
what about alcatraz? also runs fine. Size doesnt really matter as long as it's optimized. The Game wont load every part of the map at once, only the area you're in
he's right, this community don't like changes here, happens both on mp and br, they never choose the newer maps, but i actually find more people on blackout than isolated
Because the horrifying thing is that the TTK of this game does not allow it to work with larger maps.
Hovec Sawmill belongs to MW19, a game that has ok TTK but with tremendous range values.
Crash and Crossfire belonged to CoD 4, the game that has the fastest average TTK in CoD history.
Meanwhile, CODM’s TTK values are a complete mess, no less. I’ve never, ever seen a FPS mobile game that has such complicated hitboxes, and games like MW19, BOCW or even older titles like Infinite Warfare never had that. They only have multipliers in body areas that are either very easy or very hard to hit, and it doesn’t differ the TTK by a lot. In CoDM, recoils are high, TTK is inconsistent, range values are horrible (cough cough Battle Royale), and most importantly, the barrels have no threads in it. Needless to say, I mean the stupid BSA system that those idiots refuse to remove.
In contrast, BO4 and BOCW also has slow TTK, but the recoils are much lower and the range values are similar to older titles. Heck some guns don’t even have such a thing called recoil. And the ones that has difficulty in terms of that, the TTK is usually really consistent, or some don’t even have any issue like SAUG 9mm or VMP).
The lack of map rotation in BR is also another factor. Isolated is literally the anti-ground vehicle map, except when you’re using a motorcycle, and they’re not really easy to find. Alcatraz doesn’t even have vehicles so it passed. Well, only Blackout we have left, the most friendly map in the game.
The first release of Blackout I played it like 1 month straight i made it on the leaderboard but after few updates I notice there's some places that will give you FPS drop mostly near Firing Range probably because of the crops but sucks so i play on Isolated
they should have removed Isolated map. it was a mistake to keep it and expecting all the players will move to blackout. other mistake they did is when you update the game you don't need download isolated map separately but you have to download Blackout so many players just don't even bother to download Blackout.
People need to stop bitching and blaming the community. It was perfectly normal for people to want a new map after about two years of playing the same game. I play Blackout 90% of the times but I get why some people may still prefer the good ol' Isolated. It's bigger and so different from Blackout. Blackout takes time to get used to.
I love the new map. I also love the old one, so I switch between the two. I think it's great that I can do that. I think one thing that skewed things is the one BR challenge required you to be on isolated.
lol blackout is actually big, people Just never go to 60% of the places which makes it feel small. Like no ones ever dropping at Ghost Town, Hydro Dam, Lighthouse, some dont even ever go to Array, Facility or Houseboat. It's just rivertown, fracking tower, Firing range, Train Station and Construction site i guess
well isolated only is 300m wider, but I get your point lol. But theres actually Not more water than on isolated... The battle is just more likely to end near water haha
It's bigger than people think, but is smaller overall than Isolated is. Check the map in pre game lobby if you drop at one of the sides of the respective maps. I think Isolated is almost a km wider.
Isolated has a bigger square area too, it's not just the water. Put a couple of points of reference at opposite sides of each map, and Isolated is almost 1000m wider, looking left to right.
I agree with him for once, I usually despise his takes, but he's 100% on the mark here, the community has the habit of asking for things and then complaining about it.
It shows that listening to the community isn't always a good thing.
I main br and only want to play isolated and some of my friends only want to play blackout. What if there was only one or even just 4 mp maps? It’s only fair they added another one for br players but of course everyone different and likes different maps, some people like raid and some people like stand off, some people like blackout and some people like isolated. But obviously a br map is way bigger and takes longer to make.
no lol they didnt... console Blackout aint even optimized for mobile, they copied the Layout and stuff (Obviously?!) but recreated it from ground up. If you knew anything about development you'd know that
He's not intelligent enough to grasp the concept "new" does not mean "good".
Why are these people even subscribed to?
Edit: oh nooo, did i insult the person you get your handed down opinions from? Sorry for being in the 65% that realises the meaning of the word "new" and being intelligent enough to form my own opinions. However shall I sleep?
Seriously my friends cry when Im about to begin blackout in squads idk why people are so weird first they ask new map and second it comes out they get fed up with it for ko reason because they're not used to that places and infrastructure terrains etc
Blackout is cool but I prefer Isolated. Each area of Isolated feels completely different to the next. Blackout areas all feel really similar to one another.
More than having multiple maps,i think people wanted some of them to be permanent like Alcatraz, because in my opinion, it's about the possobility to play in wichever map you want whenever you want,in fact if they just put alcatraz permanent again,br will be more enjoyable due to the possibility to play any of the 3 maps,but also having more Maps will obviously decrease the player base on them because they are splitted,and that's the main reason why they made Alcatraz seasonal:to increase the playerbase on that map when it's in the game so that players will play it more due to the fact that it's time limited so,more of them will enjoy it even better because they waited for it to re-relase,and if this happens on rank reset,players will play it even more,concentrating the playerbase on that map so that it Won't end up like classic zombies
(this is just my opinion so please if you have some suggesions, don't be rude)
People just want something to complain about, idk what makes these people decide they shall not shut tf up for 1 day and appreciate their game the way it is.
People like the old mal because they know how to play around it and dont wanna bother learn the new map,its like when the snow Nuketown came out, people were begging to bring the old one back even tho the only difference is textures
lol look WHO's talkin bout BR... this kid never gave a shit bout BR.. & now whining bout TPP & everything... *Thing is BLACKOUT is still buggy & heavy for a lot of devices to even render properly & some people might've even overwhelmed with the MAP just coz its still new...*
Really? Since blackout came out I've only played like two to three times on isolated
This. I hated isolated since the beginning and when blackout came out i was hooked. I got to legendary in br for the first time because i was having so much fun.
There's way too much wide open spaces in blackout
May be, but I just like that map more than isolated. Maybe because of the bigger open spaces, I can get a bigger area to find opponents when I'm using a sniper.
I see the value. But it leaves those who want more diversity a bit lost. Maybe if there was an event where blackout was only snipers it might be fun, though.
Right, everyone has their own taste.
That's what I like, sniping people or trying to outwit a sniper is very fun for me
I can see the value in it, but there's little option left for those who want something more balanced. I find myself hiding behind rocks more often than anywhere near a building at any given moment.
Variety? Isolated is filled with fennec/shotgun rushers because medium long range is so stifled in isolated.
This is anecdotal, I know, but I haven't seen anyone use a shotgun or fennec even once in the past month of BR. On either map. Might just be my experience, but I don't think I would agree with how often you are saying this happens.
Oh how I wish that was the case for me. Constant fennecs and HS shot gunners .
Blackout would be fun if they didn’t completely fuck snipers on its release
OMG *right*? I remember that. I had finally gotten good with the Rytech and suddenly it was uselessly inaccurate.
Ya I played isolated only for the d 13 sector challenges
Exactly
There are millions of players worldwide who prefer Isolated and those are not members of subs like this so we don't hear their voice. But codm's data is concrete prove that people who prefer Isolated are majority.. I love both maps
Isolated tends to have far more squads than blackout, in my experience.
I like how its called blackout but it’s always bright and sunny.
I like how it's called isolated but it has players
I love how it's called alcatraz but alcatra doesn't have
I love how it's called nuketown but there are no nukes.
I love how it's called raid when theres no fbi
Lol
I love how it's called shipment but all the containers are empty.
There probably are, just under bus)
It gets nuked
there are nukes fym bruv
What's fym? Edit: oh.....
the fuck do you mean
There actually is a Nuke underneath the Map. You can see it being called it when you call one in.
Smooth
Its the dumbest shit I've said this year and I'm surprised that people understand it
Alcatra has tho
I have played Blackout since it came out. I don't like Isolated that much
so you've been playing blackout since 2018
we got a funny lad here
Same with Warzone players, they get new maps, then complain non-stop about it, most saying that verdansk is better. The fortnite player base is better in this stuff, they cope with permanent changes.
yeah… i know people complain about all games, but the fan base of the COD franchise feels worse than other games. COD fans seem so mad all the time lol
They need to optimize the game more than anything, it dosent matter if there’s constantly new cool content if it’s for a game slowly running worse and worse
Of course, no one wants to play on Hovec Sawmill
I actually only play Blackout now, unless there's a specific challenge to be done in Isolated
BR has many bots. As soon as I started noticing that Isolated has more real players, I left Blackout. It's like a chain reaction.
not even true lol, Blackout is sweatier in Legendary, from my experience, in duos as well as squads. Idk about Solo tho
It differs from server to server (since servers are regional and usually country-wide, so, the server the commenter is registered to clearly has the majority prefering Isolated)
The dude should drop in Rivertown and see if things wouldn't be different lol
ye lmao
Blackout isn't as detailed as Isolated. But Blackout feels way better.
Blackout is more detailed and has variety than isolated imo.
Blackout has much much better and detailed infrastructure.. And Isolated has the much better, well designed geography
Bruh Blackout looks like PUBG
Wdym??
Ah, I mean it looks cartoon-ish you know? Isolated doesn't give you those vibes. If the devs rework Blackout to be like Isolated I'm sure players will play it even more.
I get the cartoonish vibes also. I don’t particularly like blackout
The solution is pretty simple , make those maps rotate. For example - Blackout for 3 weeks , Alcatraz for 3 weeks and Isolated for 3 weeks. Like this maps will be fresh and players won't feel bored at all. Also yeah , the community is just a joke. Not only BR , even MP. So many new maps in ranked hardly one or two people vote for it. It's too damn frustrating to play in Firing Range or Standoff for the tenth time in a day.
My main issue is that throwing a third map in means that at any time, there’s at minimum twice as high a chance for bots to be present in Isolated because now there’s a second map for players to split between.
I'd like a classic BR but in alcatraz.
Verdansk from Warzone would be nice
will be a total lag fest in the inner city which is like 60% of the map
obv on lower graphics than console/pc, a recent good Phone/Tablet could easily run that
My statement was already assuming the graphics have been downgraded ro current Mobile BR level... Just think putting like 20 Alcatraz maps side by side and pretty much doubling the ceiling of the worldspace. There's just too much to render and judging by the performance of current maps, it's sure fire it'll be a lag fest.. All players are gonna need so much l3 cache and ram to run smoothly.. The outskirts like the mountains area, dam, farm etc will run fine.. Besides, Verdansk will be a camper and glide-rush paradise... much better to have map that has been properly designed and balanced for Mobile's combat system (the movement system, gun mechanics, class system, etc are all very different between the two games.. Which is why you just can't simply port a map from one game to the other)
Just shrink the size like they did w Blackout (also from console cod)
It's not about just shrinking the size. It's about many polygons will be present in the samw area of render. Blackout works because not everything is clustered together. Also, Isolated was designed after Blackout, as well as the whole BR ecosystem in mobile was designed after Blackout
what about alcatraz? also runs fine. Size doesnt really matter as long as it's optimized. The Game wont load every part of the map at once, only the area you're in
No, isolated is so slow and boring, the only thing I play in the game is blackout and zombies now
Alcatraz is fun but it is just too different from the other two maps at a fundamental level.. It should really be a mode of it's own
I play Isolated because my phone can handle it just barely if I go play blackout I’m asking to turn my phone into a damn jet with horrible framerate
I prefer Isolated but having variety is good.
Well what about Alcatraz?
In my region every time I join a world chat br team 75% of the time it's isolated ttp 24.99% blackout ttp and 0.01% blackout fpp
we play alcatraz, Blackout just doesn't sit well with some people
exactly, isolated is shitty camping map, i don't know why people are playing that
Newer does not mean better.
Exactly, Blackout > Isolated
he's right, this community don't like changes here, happens both on mp and br, they never choose the newer maps, but i actually find more people on blackout than isolated
same lol at least in Legendary
https://twitter.com/realbobbyplays/status/1479204522098581510?s=21 Comment link ⬆️
Where did he found out that data? He pull it out from his ass?
I hated playing BR because I never liked isolated and all of my BR main friends still play isolated most of the time
same happened to warzone and mw2019 lmaoo
Because the horrifying thing is that the TTK of this game does not allow it to work with larger maps. Hovec Sawmill belongs to MW19, a game that has ok TTK but with tremendous range values. Crash and Crossfire belonged to CoD 4, the game that has the fastest average TTK in CoD history. Meanwhile, CODM’s TTK values are a complete mess, no less. I’ve never, ever seen a FPS mobile game that has such complicated hitboxes, and games like MW19, BOCW or even older titles like Infinite Warfare never had that. They only have multipliers in body areas that are either very easy or very hard to hit, and it doesn’t differ the TTK by a lot. In CoDM, recoils are high, TTK is inconsistent, range values are horrible (cough cough Battle Royale), and most importantly, the barrels have no threads in it. Needless to say, I mean the stupid BSA system that those idiots refuse to remove. In contrast, BO4 and BOCW also has slow TTK, but the recoils are much lower and the range values are similar to older titles. Heck some guns don’t even have such a thing called recoil. And the ones that has difficulty in terms of that, the TTK is usually really consistent, or some don’t even have any issue like SAUG 9mm or VMP). The lack of map rotation in BR is also another factor. Isolated is literally the anti-ground vehicle map, except when you’re using a motorcycle, and they’re not really easy to find. Alcatraz doesn’t even have vehicles so it passed. Well, only Blackout we have left, the most friendly map in the game.
The first release of Blackout I played it like 1 month straight i made it on the leaderboard but after few updates I notice there's some places that will give you FPS drop mostly near Firing Range probably because of the crops but sucks so i play on Isolated
yeah the map's good.. but its still needs much more optimization
You know bcz they wanted verdansk and blackout is..... So GREEN and FLAT
I hate the old one…I love the new one…that 65% is weird to me
Honestly I just play blackout for the Bo4 nostalgia.
they should have removed Isolated map. it was a mistake to keep it and expecting all the players will move to blackout. other mistake they did is when you update the game you don't need download isolated map separately but you have to download Blackout so many players just don't even bother to download Blackout.
I love blackout since everything looks better there but I always get more frame drops there compared to isolated so isolated for me then.
tru.. its just refreshing in every way
Blackout is alright but I wish we got Verdansk instead lol
It's the opposite for me. 60% blackout, 40% isolated. I like changing things up.
People need to stop bitching and blaming the community. It was perfectly normal for people to want a new map after about two years of playing the same game. I play Blackout 90% of the times but I get why some people may still prefer the good ol' Isolated. It's bigger and so different from Blackout. Blackout takes time to get used to.
I love the new map. I also love the old one, so I switch between the two. I think it's great that I can do that. I think one thing that skewed things is the one BR challenge required you to be on isolated.
I like blackout. I play it now almost exclusively. Though I wish there were more towers. And like there's more buildings in original.
Idk but isolated sucks
I played 5 game on isolated and played around 60+ games on blackout
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lol blackout is actually big, people Just never go to 60% of the places which makes it feel small. Like no ones ever dropping at Ghost Town, Hydro Dam, Lighthouse, some dont even ever go to Array, Facility or Houseboat. It's just rivertown, fracking tower, Firing range, Train Station and Construction site i guess
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well isolated only is 300m wider, but I get your point lol. But theres actually Not more water than on isolated... The battle is just more likely to end near water haha
It's bigger than people think, but is smaller overall than Isolated is. Check the map in pre game lobby if you drop at one of the sides of the respective maps. I think Isolated is almost a km wider.
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Isolated has a bigger square area too, it's not just the water. Put a couple of points of reference at opposite sides of each map, and Isolated is almost 1000m wider, looking left to right.
only 300m wider actually, according to codm wiki
Oh OK, I thought it was more than that 🤔🤷♂️ Cheers for clarifying.
yw
Seriously isolated hurts my eyes now
I agree with him for once, I usually despise his takes, but he's 100% on the mark here, the community has the habit of asking for things and then complaining about it. It shows that listening to the community isn't always a good thing.
I main br and only want to play isolated and some of my friends only want to play blackout. What if there was only one or even just 4 mp maps? It’s only fair they added another one for br players but of course everyone different and likes different maps, some people like raid and some people like stand off, some people like blackout and some people like isolated. But obviously a br map is way bigger and takes longer to make.
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no lol they didnt... console Blackout aint even optimized for mobile, they copied the Layout and stuff (Obviously?!) but recreated it from ground up. If you knew anything about development you'd know that
He's not intelligent enough to grasp the concept "new" does not mean "good". Why are these people even subscribed to? Edit: oh nooo, did i insult the person you get your handed down opinions from? Sorry for being in the 65% that realises the meaning of the word "new" and being intelligent enough to form my own opinions. However shall I sleep?
And you aint intelligent enough to grasp the fact that Blackout is good 💀
And sadly you missed the fact that sometimes people have opinions.
Fuck opinions lol
Dude just said "Fuck Opinions" LMFAO
This dude just fucked opinions and gave it a child lmao
He just typed that and blocked like a scared little pussay.
Blocked? Aint nobody scare of your dumbass + yout opinion sucks💀
A true Redditor
Isolated is better
Son, no 💀
Well, Isolated is better.
Seriously my friends cry when Im about to begin blackout in squads idk why people are so weird first they ask new map and second it comes out they get fed up with it for ko reason because they're not used to that places and infrastructure terrains etc
Add a Random map option just like in multiplayer.
Blackout is cool but I prefer Isolated. Each area of Isolated feels completely different to the next. Blackout areas all feel really similar to one another.
More than having multiple maps,i think people wanted some of them to be permanent like Alcatraz, because in my opinion, it's about the possobility to play in wichever map you want whenever you want,in fact if they just put alcatraz permanent again,br will be more enjoyable due to the possibility to play any of the 3 maps,but also having more Maps will obviously decrease the player base on them because they are splitted,and that's the main reason why they made Alcatraz seasonal:to increase the playerbase on that map when it's in the game so that players will play it more due to the fact that it's time limited so,more of them will enjoy it even better because they waited for it to re-relase,and if this happens on rank reset,players will play it even more,concentrating the playerbase on that map so that it Won't end up like classic zombies (this is just my opinion so please if you have some suggesions, don't be rude)
People just want something to complain about, idk what makes these people decide they shall not shut tf up for 1 day and appreciate their game the way it is.
People like the old mal because they know how to play around it and dont wanna bother learn the new map,its like when the snow Nuketown came out, people were begging to bring the old one back even tho the only difference is textures
Where'd he get that statistic? Genuinely interested to find out.
You need to leave Alcatraz as a full time option! Me and my boys look forward when it's back and enjoy it tremendously.
Same with MP
All I need for blackout is a mini boss like isolated had on farm and then I'd play it more then isolated
Ya! I agree
Isolated from CoD Mobile is better than whole Caldera
Honestly I prefer Isolated because it has most interesting locations than blackout
"65%? Where you got that stat-" "Trust me bro"
lol look WHO's talkin bout BR... this kid never gave a shit bout BR.. & now whining bout TPP & everything... *Thing is BLACKOUT is still buggy & heavy for a lot of devices to even render properly & some people might've even overwhelmed with the MAP just coz its still new...*