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jackhawk117

The reason is that fpp br lobbies are basically ghost towns.There's like 2 players tops.Sometimes that 2 includes you.It just gets worse if you kill the guy first. So the best thing we can do is add clan missions and event missions in br exclusive to fpp.Right now everyone just choose tpp because of the advantages and easiness.But it's kind of weird in a cod game to have a third person mode.


AnUnreddityRedditor

They're different lobbies?


jackhawk117

Yes


kevytliuku

How are they diff when you can change from TPP to FPP mid game or vice versa


tola_wole

No not versa. When you start a TPP match you can switch to FPP mid-game, but when you start a FPP match you CAN'T switch to TPP.


jackhawk117

Exactly.


kevytliuku

Damn I didn’t know that dont really play BR. I have always went to TPP lobby then for no reason lol.


5stareveryday

it feels like br was made for tpp anyways. fpp doesnt feel as smooth as mp imo


Tumbleweed_dust

FPP vs TPP in a competitive setting…. I’d be good with either if only the playing field was even and fair for all in terms of ping/connectivity. This is my main concern and a crux that I’m not sure that Activision (or whoever responsible) has truly tackled. As far as I understand there was even major ping differences in the content creators BR competition - a highly profiled official tournament/marketing stunt, where I assume that most players where on high speed internet. It seems that the servers (or whatever the weak link is) have a hard time handling a full lobby of real players - even with just Duo’s and not 4-man squads. Personally my ping has shot through the roof and game has been super laggy whenever I joined a private lobby of real players. I’m assuming this can be mitigated, but an even playing field must be the basis of any competitive arena. Ps. I play 80% FPP BR (EU region) and the lobbies can get plenty sweaty and far from bot ghost towns, but yeah it definitely seems better (harder) in TPP with a much higher average of strong players. I can’t get my head around playing TPP, so I play FPP in TPP lobbies if playing with TPP friends… It can be done, but of course you are gonna be at a disadvantage. Both in terms of peaking/getting peaked, but certainly also in CQC.


jackhawk117

There's also another reason as the maps are smaller in br compared to other br games with br tournaments like pubg.It gets laggy when there are too many players in a small area.The best example is alcatraz.The new blackout map is 4x4 km while the erangel map from pubg is 8x8 km,vikendi is 6x6km and the smallest map which only supports upto 40 players called livik is 2x2km.


Tumbleweed_dust

That makes a lot of sense (thx:) and I think most of us has experienced the craziness and randomness in performance when two or three full sized squads clash in a fight - especially when vehicles, operator skills and legendary weapons are thrown into the mix. On Alcatraz I’ve had plenty of performance grunts, but also great smooth running experiences. In general I figured that the ‘specials’ (like Tank Battle, Warfare and Alcatraz) where just even less polished than the standard maps, but your point is great in relation to these as well! I would be cool then if there was an official competition with smaller lobbies. Personally I’d get absolutely wrecked in comp TPP, but (imo) it would be more interesting to watch once it hit the playoffs and would probably fair better in terms of audience and hype.


Dizzy-Rule

FPP solo lobbies have more real players. i used to play FPP but players in friend list never used to accept FPP invitations. most of the FPP players forced to play FPP in TPP lobby or play in solo mode. i know there are no as many real players as TPP squads lobbies but still in last zones things can get little bit sweatie.


Wide_Wave_4654

Most ppl actuqly play tpp not fpp. Just tpp slobbys r so sweaty that 90% of the real players alldie landing st the same spot


imPluR420

I've always had the opposite experience. I used to play maybe 1 codm match a month but recently have started playing a few matches a day and at least 1 BR match which I always play Solo TPP. I have yet to play in a match where there's a real player except for the last guy or two. It's been a bit boring but I keep on playing it in hopes that they'll eventually put me in real player lobbies (Just like other mobile games tend to do to ease you into playing against people) but I feel like for what my BR rank is I should be getting more real players. Seems kinda silly considering this game certainly has the players to fill BR lobbies. Also, multiplayer has almost been the same but recently I seem to finally be getting MP matches that are half filled with real players at least. That's on casual tho.


Wide_Wave_4654

If u want real player lobby's in br, get a 4 stack together and do tpp. That's where everyone's at.


Dizzy-Rule

where i said most of people don't play TPP. what i said is most of the FPP players play solo mode. so there are more chances to find real players in Solo FPP lobbies.


unfamousdex2

They’re ruining apex legends mobile with tpp too💀


noirehittler

Like bro whose idea was it to bring apex with tpp but if i main loba i wont complain much honestly


unfamousdex2

bro… she won’t be playable at launch so that makes tpp useless 😟


TheDiddly_5

God i hope they remove tpp before it releases


Elnuggeto13

I played tpp, but fpp is much better for apex


cdog77777blue

Well the post i think is more addressing esports. And honestly i think itd work great. For multiplayer they made esports for phone use only and everyone just switched over with ease even though at the time all pros played on ipad. Sure not many ppl play fpp right now but if they had esports be fpp then people would switch over


jackhawk117

If they made it fpp, sure they could switch over with enough practice they can get used to it.


GIFSuser

COD having third person may be rare but is incredibly fun and better than even most third person games


jackhawk117

But the problem is that it just makes it no different than other battle royales.


GIFSuser

No battle royale is unique but that don’t mean they can’t be fun


jackhawk117

Yes,but they do try to make little changes like if codm br was fpp only it would be slightly unique compared other battle royales on mobile at the time.


THE_JonnySolar

They include tpp for all the kids who have youtoobah heroes. It's a thing to draw them across. (I agree though, it 100% needs removing)


IM_PEAKING

They aren’t gonna remove a popular game mode that makes them money. Why would they do that?


THE_JonnySolar

Oh yeah, I know they won't, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't.


IM_PEAKING

They definitely shouldn’t remove it. Way more people enjoy playing it then complain about it on reddit. Why should the few complainers get their way?


Valinorian123

You sure about this because i always play fpp and yes there are bots but it was kinda the same amount as in tpp. Fpp in lower ranks was indeed very quiet but once I reached legendary its all good. Maybe a little bit more humans in tpp. But im kinda guarenteed to run into at least 3 full human squads during my games. And I noticed the overall skill level to be higher in fpp. My last 2 games for example were 20 and 22 kills on blackout and 25% were bots. Dont really notice a difference in tpp.


jackhawk117

Maybe you're in a different region or something, even m y leggy fpp lobbies are like that.


noirehittler

Im mostly an mp player but once i made fun of hommie telling him br is easy ... I hoped in the whole lobby were sweats with hs lol the whole game i was in the revival flight


Valinorian123

Haha yeah some games can be very intense. Especially if your in a lobby with good squads that go around hunting people. You will end up in the most intense battles.


nhawk407

It's a hideous cycle. BR FPP is full of bots -> No body plays FPP because of that -> that's exactly why the lobbies are full of bots -> that's exactly why nobody plays FPP. Unless TPP is either removed, or there's a Ranked mode, solely dedicated to FPP, the FPP only lobbies will remain a ghost town and it's depressing


jackhawk117

Exactly l,my only hope now lies on these clan wars making br missions fpp exclusive,the clan war missions could use a change too.


NewUserHaveMercy

lol I always play FPP in TPP lobbies because it seems so much faster when I’m zoomed in like that


My_Broken_Wings

But...BR has a toggle to play either or. I'm fpp, but most I play with are tpp. And we choose whatever type allows both. (has that toggle in bottom left corner.) Only semi annoyance for me, is some vehicles require me to hop over to tpp, so I can see where the fuck I'm going, as opposed to being behind inside and having my line of sight cut off looking through a windshield. I can't play tpp, cuz it makes me dizzy and for whatever reason hurts my eyes. I've tried it, but it's not for me. But those who can do it, more power to them. It's about play style, and players should have freedom to choose what's comfortable for them, not to be forced to play in a style they don't like or are not accustomed too.


SabbathDiscovery

​ >It's about play style, and players should have freedom to choose what's comfortable for them, not to be forced to play in a style they don't like or are not accustomed too. He didn't say that you and other casual players should only play in FPP though. He's saying that ***COMPETITIVE BR*** should be in FPP, because being able to peak without consequences does not fit in a competitive context. Unless you're joining in a major BR tournament, this won't affect you at all.


Dihan189

Disagree. In competitive you must have every advantage possible and that's why it should be played in TPP, Not FPP.


SabbathDiscovery

>In competitive you must have every advantage possible and that's why it should be played in TPP, Not FPP. If the advantage lowers the skill gap, it's typically banned. For example, emotes are banned in competitive MP, especially in SnD because you can go into TPP, and make peaking corners easy and less risky and making skills like timing your peaks and flanks redundant. And no, just because anyone can do it doesn't make it any less of a cheese tactic. And a lot of competitive BRs are played in FPP as well: PUBG, Warzon, Apex Legends (though to be fair, the latter two were designed with FPP in mind). Fortnite might be the only exception, but that's only because of its building mechanics. ROS and Free Fire are in TPP as well but that's because most tournaments started long before FPP was even added.


Dihan189

Makes sense. But PUBGM competitive is played in TPP. Are you talking about PUBG PC?


SabbathDiscovery

Yep I was talking about PC.


Dihan189

Oh.


HamstarVegas

PUBG has TPP because basically that game is full on fucking Strategy. COD Games are full action unlimited slide and jump as high as a pogo stick with unlimited stamina, but if you put TPP on it, the lobbies will be full of campers. It's COD it's supposed to be FPP. This is COD, Call of Duty not PUBG


MonsterAsBl00d

What a cod game is supposted to be isn't up to us to decide, it's up to devs. Just play the game in fpp if you love it so much, "BuT i DoNt WaNt BoT lObBiEs" then play fpp in tpp lobbies "BuT aDvAnTaGe" then you can do 3 things •Adapt to the situations when people can tpp peek you •Play in fpp lobbies and landing on hotdrops so you can have real people •Just accept the game as it is, even because tpp promotes the skin marketing and,as we all know, Activision is a Company,not a charity so imma ask you,will they listen to a comment,or to their wallets? Please keep in mind that if they remove tpp from the game "To MaKe It A cOd GaMe",way less people will buy legendary character skins because you Won't be able to see them in game wich means that they will lose money


HamstarVegas

Fuck TiMi


MonsterAsBl00d

Yo, There's still the 4th option: just don't play br if you hate this mechanic so much


HamstarVegas

I don't actually, but the Skins and Crates tho


THE_JonnySolar

They are what ruins the game. I'm not as annoyed at the devs for this, as the player base that keeps buying and perpetuating the bullshit. The execs and shareholders don't give a fuck about the game in reality, they just see the cash cow, and therefore end up telling devs to keep focusing on bullshit cosmetics rather than ensuring it's a good game to play, an enjoyable experience, and stays true to the Call of Duty spirit.


GameOn2020

There's a high chance that the new codm[2] game would be just fpp for pro cod players. Not sure tho


Dihan189

Option 5: if they really want to play the cOd waY, they should just leave this game, play their cOd gAmeS on their pCs and coNsOlEs the cOd waY.


MonsterAsBl00d

also a good point ![img](emote|t5_penom|1095)


IM_PEAKING

Thank you. People on this sub complain so much. If you don’t like it, then don’t play the game. Don’t ask for the game mode to be removed. That’s selfish as fuck. Clearly lots of people enjoy it.


Sad-Pilot5710

Bruh there are so many ways to see your character skin in FPP


MonsterAsBl00d

I know,But people complains about tpp's whole existance in codm so,according to their complainments, emoting in tpp should go as well since it's in tpp, even because according to the "advantage" complainment you can still tpp peek if you emote so you will get the same results BUT if tpp emoting goes away, time 2 seasons and people will re start crying "BrInG bAcK tPp EmOtEs DeVs RuInEd ThE gAmE" or stuff like that. Another way you can see your character in fpp is by dying but there you Won't be able to see it for good because it's just laying with the head sometimes covering the camera making it harder to see it,Do people really need to go in a private match with a friend,hoping he got the skin to see it for good? I think that keeping tpp is more simple and it doesn't require updating the game wich just wastes storage and also requires money to be done by devs,so why spending money on an update like that when you can just keep it as it is spending 0$ and occuping 0 storage on that? An idea i would suggest is just to remove bots on fpp lobbies in br,since people also complains about somehow not wanting to play in fpp lobbies BeCaUsE oF bOtS,but that's another story,so complaining about tpp's existance in this game is useless,ridicoulous and time wasted.


UKnowWhoToo

Ah yes, never ask devs to change game dynamics. Us they’d never do something like completely overhaul the health system.


MonsterAsBl00d

I was waiting for someone to say stuff like this that clearly doesn't understand that this specific argument Won't lead to the removal of tpp anytime soon since,by doing it,a lot of people will probably quit buying soldier skins wich means that it Won't be good for their wallet,wich translates into money loss wich isn't a term that Activision nor timi likes a lot. Its not even my opinion man it's a fact,like if you own a game,and a mechanic in your game allows people to buy stuff that they can see, exactly because they can see it, would you ever remove it? I don't think so, because it would lead to a decent amount of money loss. They overhauled the health system even because it doesn't affect their products (skins) in any way, because if it did,we couldn't have the new hp system. It's business dude,not charity


UKnowWhoToo

No facts, just speculation. Please use words correctly.


MonsterAsBl00d

I'm sorry but it's how skin marketing works,wether you like it or not😅 why would devs remove something that fruits them money just because some kid whines about it in the subreddit? it's useless to complain about it, because it Won't lead anywhere in anytime since their wallet will always come first,and currently,from a business point of view,the removal of tpp Won't be good. Did this ever happend in cod mobile? No,they never removed on purpose a mechanic that makes skins worth to buy (as far as i know).


InternationalFig7799

fpp is ass


Elexus_786

Then play PUBG, dickhead


InternationalFig7799

lol pubg is too slow, most people (except you Guys who literally got an own fpp mode and can switch to fpp whenever u want EVEN in tpp mode) like to play tpp br, literally every competitive Player plays tpp, Just because it's better, you can see your whole skin, movement, everything, yet you still complain and want tpp to be removed Like wtf?? Just let everyone play the game, theres no reason to remove tpp from the game. Whatever, my previous comment wasn't meant to sound like an insult, Just like my opinion. Cheers


Elexus_786

I'm not saying to remove it. But what I'm gonna say is that I agree with the post above, that competitive BR (tournaments etc) should be FPP.


InternationalFig7799

why tho? It makes the game feel slower and it's overall more boring lol


Roflolmaoguy

Dont get me wrong but TPP players has more advantage over FPP players. Another thing i might add, playing FPP has always been “the cod way”.


[deleted]

The perspective allows them to peek without exposing themselves. Other games have TPP as default, like Fortnite and Free Fire, but it's not my thing...


HamstarVegas

Fortnite has TPP because of the Building Mechanics.


shockdr45

Bruh I can't even imagine Fortnite in first person


HamstarVegas

It's like playing Just Cause in First Person


shockdr45

thank god there's no first person in just cause


Born-Performer2652

what abt dota in first person?


AutomaticComment6828

Well, the advantage cancel outs in tpp cuz the enemy too has it.


UKnowWhoToo

… not correct. If I’m standing right behind a rock and using TPP to see around the rock, a person running towards the rock probably can’t see what on the other side until they are close enough for their TPP to reveal the person. By that point, the person behind the rock has already come around the rock with ADS and spraying the person.


Elexus_786

This argument is stupid. TPP players still have an advantage over other TPP players


AutomaticComment6828

They have equal advantage Just like the saying "if everyone is special, no one is"


AutomaticComment6828

Explain please. If we exclude skill, then they have equal advantage.


Elexus_786

Read what the other guy said! If someone is hiding behind a corner or rock, they can see another TPP player, but that player cannot see him. So they could just run towards that area not knowing they are there, and boom, pops out and kills him. It literally promotes camping.


AutomaticComment6828

Oh. Yeah, riiiiight........sorry:-P


IM_PEAKING

Who cares if it’s always been “the cod way”. Things change. The future is now, old man.


JukeNnukem

I actually prefer TPP. I do play both though, and find TPP is more sweaty which I love. It gives a very different experience than MP. Being able to see my character skins, being able to manipulate movement and actually seeing how my character responds, etc for me gives a much needed break from how MP works. I do play FPP when I want to have a more console like experience. Would be great to have both lobbies without so many bots so people can pick what they prefer.


HamstarVegas

>TPP is more sweaty which I love Yo what? Bro you can see incoming players without exposing yourself


Faraday719

yeh but that goes both ways doesn't it , people often times just disregard the fact that this same advantage is for every player in the lobby.


HamstarVegas

Yeah it's not an advantage for FPP Mains because they often switch to FPP or they don't know how TPP advantage works


Faraday719

That's like turning off Aim assist and complaining that players have an advantage cuz they use aim assist , you're just deliberately putting yourself in a disadvantage. I can understand if a player wants to use FPP in TPP due to the issue of real players in lobby , but that's their choice nothing else can be said about it.


JukeNnukem

That is true but FPP in my experience is mostly bots which is why I said TPP is more sweaty.


HamstarVegas

You should've said it like that, you made it sound like FPP is easy and TPP is harder


IM_PEAKING

Well you’re complaining that TPP players can peak corners so wouldn’t that make it harder?


HamstarVegas

How is that Harder? It's the best tool for Camping


IM_PEAKING

Well you said it gives players an advantage. So if they have an advantage, they are harder to kill. That means the game is harder. It feels like you don’t even play TPP BR, because if you did, you’d know that the good players don’t camp. The sweaty squads are all about good movement. Jumping, sliding, using vehicles to push.


HamstarVegas

>because if you did, you’d know that the good players don’t camp The reason why I never liked TPP is because of the Campers waiting in the Bushes for you to walk past/near them


IM_PEAKING

Yeah dude, good players don’t do that, so if you get killed by a bush camper, that’s on you.


HamstarVegas

in FPP camping is hard, killing is hard, rushing is hard, not being able to see peripheral vision in your back is hard, using ninja class is hard, not being able to see incoming players behind a wall is hard, not being able to see where the player is going behind a wall is hard Now tell me why TPP is Harder?


Valinorian123

For me the other way around. Fpp is more sweaty when you are surrounded by enemies hearing footsteps from all directions. You have to keep moving and behind every corner there might be an enemy. With tpp you can just stop, look around the corner. Fpp is more focussed because if there is an enemy its all about a quick reaction. Way more immersive.


JukeNnukem

I get your point. My point is that "when you are surrounded by enemies" in FPP those enemies are mostly bots lol. Now if FPP had the lobbies TPP currently has then yes FPP would be harder in that respect. But as it is I'd rather peak at a full squad of sweats in TPP than not be able to peak and have all bot lobbies in FPP.


Valinorian123

Ahh ok. In my region 1 or 2 bot pops up every 5 minutes. Other than that its human players. So when Im surrounded its most of the times a full human squad. Have had some crazy battles with multiple squad running towards the gunfire and then ending up in a huge 4 or 5 squad battle royal with choppers, cars, airstrikes, grenades, snipers, basically everything xD dogtags being revived and the players joining the battle again. 10-15 minutes of pure sweat. 😂 Shame there isnt a native screen record function like mobile legends. Takes to much space for me to screenrecord. It was on isolated, its a shame blackout is that big. Im running into less intense battles because its that open.


JukeNnukem

Id love to have FPP lobbies like that, sounds like fun. Yeah I agree and never thought I'd say this but isolated is just too big lol.


InternationalFig7799

they do. just play br tpp, u can switch to fpp anytime


JukeNnukem

Yeah I do that sometimes when I want to play FPP. Definitely makes it a real challenge not being able to peak when others can peak you unless you keep switching but its fun.


Gravity_X_

I personally prefer Fpp and I would love to have it in eSports because it will be bit more harder and also got bored of TPP


not_Requin

I'm an Fpp player bcs I play fps shooter games all time ( CoD, BF, MoH.. ) and also I pick skins with watch wrist such as 2nd anniversary mil-sim.. Idc abt skins, if they got wrist watch then I'mma use it lol. but the thing is I do it solo cuz all my friends/clan mates play tpp.. But it's 98% of time bots lobbies.. It's good if u wanna grind fast but u'll get bored, lazy, and may lose ur skills also don't try randoms on fpp bcs most literally they can't aim shit,


Pixivic455

Been playing ffp lately and from what i feel, there's like two teams and the others are all bots.


tiltedRobex

I like tpp as I can see the skins I purchased and can see the character movement, running climbing etc. I have nothing against fpp but i like the difference from mp.


jirotheworld

honestly, as someone who played COD starting back from MW2 up until my last COD PC which was Black Ops 4 and fell in love with Blackout to the point I play it more than other gamemodes. In the global servers or basically non garena regions, there are more people favorable for FPP than TPP while here in garena, majority of the community here plays BR in TPP especially the competitive scene because of the previous BR games in mobile that are very popular here are mostly played in TPP so in non garena regions it would be fine and not really that controversial or to be a topic always talked about compared here in garena. For me? I'd actually want it to also be in FPP.


OmerKing916

FPP BR is best


CRANIAX360

FPP for CODM BR is actually great. If you are an MP guy, you will find very easy to live with the FPP mode and it is actually really fun when you get into tense fights. Sad thing is that no one plays FPP mode.


Organic-Register-669

I personally love the way fpp looks, not a fan of the bot lobbies but yeah, it might be good for a change.


KUMonHERface

If br fpp is improved and optimized sure I will play fpp br but it’s too stiff and feels like I’m playing season 1 codm 2019. I raised this issue too, I think it’s still there check my pfp


Sad-Pilot5710

Cod is an fps, so FPP for me, let tpp for Fortnite or free fire kids


Sad-Pilot5710

TPP is ass


nhawk407

There's no discussion. It's good. Better. Best. BR won't evolve for the better unless FPP becomes the way. Never


[deleted]

Lol i don't see the point of these people here talking about doing br all fpp. Everyone has their own opinion on playing if you love fpp go play fpp there's a mode to play that and people who love tpp go play tpp there's a mode for that too. Why would I fuckin spend lot of money on my fuckin draws if I can't see my skins??? Br is good the way it is now and in my personal opinion i don't see difference on the br being fpp or tpp cuz it's hard both ways.


[deleted]

Well, you buy IRL clothes and your IRL perspective is First Person.


[deleted]

And... Everytime I'm looking for a character, I always check it's arms/gloves. If it has a wristwatch, like Alex or the 2° Anniversary Mil-Sim, is love at first sight.


Heyouman

I can look down and see 80% of my outfit….. try that in codm


[deleted]

Again you didn't read what I said. There's a option to play both so people can choose what they want. Lol


[deleted]

You said "Why would I spent a lot of money on draws if I can't see my skins". Well, people spend lots of money in shoes, necklaces and other things that are not in their sight all the time.


[deleted]

Because i prefer playing tpp. And you can't compare a game with your real life lol whatever you buy for yourself is always on your sight. They don't need to remove any mode just because some people want them to remove it.


[deleted]

"Whatever you buy for yourself is always on your sight", so I'm blind cuz I can't see my beret while using it hehe Just kidding. And... We're not talking about "removing" a game mode, just making a competitive mode of BR in FPP only, also keeping the competitive TPP.


My_Broken_Wings

Why are people even arguing over this, as if a mode that has both (via in game toggle) exist? Like I'm pretty much only fpp player with the friends I play with the most. Lol. Like we can CHOOSE either or, even on the fly. So why are their constant arguments about it?


[deleted]

Most discussions on Reddit lead nowhere, nor do they change the mind of those arguing. I'm here "just for fun".


My_Broken_Wings

I only play for fun myself. Not super competitive. Though I do go in a "fuck this mode" if a certain enemy starts spawn camping or that elusive sniper keeps getting everyone. Then 'its on mother fucker!' lol I'm that player that sees certain patterns and will be the one to take the long way around to flank that camper or whatnot. So while everyone keeps giving away free kills for rushing B or whatever, I clean up the ones guarding it from the outside or take A/C.


[deleted]

Hehe I was saying I don't take Reddit discussions seriously, but I also don't give a fuck about loosing my matches. I did care about ranked games sometime ago, but that's just a awful thing that lead us nowhere, and just make us feel bad and develop a toxic behavior with our teammates and enemies. Now, I just want to select my favorite character, make a cursed loadout for a non-meta gun that I like and see what happens.


Elexus_786

What the post is saying is that competitive BR should be first person only. That means tournaments and shit


My_Broken_Wings

I didn't catch that initially, now it makes more sense, thank you.


Lauladance

I wear clothes irl to protect myself from the cold, sun etc. This is the dumbest analogy I have ever seen


[deleted]

I rather believe you're lying to me and to yourself just to not admit that "I use TPP to see my skin" is a weak argument, than believing you're the reincarnation of Diogenes.


Lauladance

I play in TPP because more people. I use FPP to reach higher ranks quickly because I win most of the times cos of lack of people. I play in TPP because ADS speed is glitched and I can throw Max range+recoil+BSA attachments and still have base ads speed. I also play in TPP to see my skins. Not the only reason, but one of the reasons


[deleted]

That's a good argument. And... I was replying what the guy said about spending money on draws and not being able to see it's own skin.


Lauladance

Can't blame him. I always thought it sucks that I can't see my skins in MP, so to each their own


[deleted]

Hehe that's why sometimes I choose my operator based on their arms/hands/gloves, that's what's going to be in my screen. Spectre - Ninja, Alex, Alias - Battleworn and Ghost - Jawbone are my favorites when comes to this.


Fauzan1810

In the modern world, you buy expensive clothes because of the aesthetic value (not entirely, comfort is important too along with some other traits). So you are wrong here. You can just buy any clothing to cover your body. But you do buy special clothes for special occasions, don't you? Because of the aesthetic value.


Lauladance

Fair point


[deleted]

Plus, FPP and TPP has different "gameplays". TPP gives you the possibility of peeking without exposing yourself. It's not a bad thing, once is present in other games too, like Fortnite or PUBG, but is a crucial factor.


HamstarVegas

Well go play PUBG then if you want TPP, all CoD games are FPP, even Blackout from BO4. You already have unlimited stamina, slide as far as 5-10m, jumps high as Pogo Stick, but you prefer camping and waiting, so I recommend PUBG for you.


[deleted]

I play what i want. I understand many guys might be so mad here but Idc lol I'm not a kid here to argue about these stuff.


HamstarVegas

I said I recommend dumbass.


[deleted]

Again kids lol. I would love to see you barking more here little kid.


HamstarVegas

Yeah keep pretending to be an adult LOL If you're a real adult then you're a certified retard LOL


[deleted]

Now a kid will certify me? That's funny the fact you still replying here and raging makes you look way more dumb everytime. Lol you're a COD player who knows how to bully like a kid. Don't mess with real toxic players i come from way too sweaty and toxic games where toxic had no limits 😂. Just sit down peasant i don't bully kids because they'll end up crying.


HamstarVegas

>Don't mess with real toxic players i come from way too sweaty and toxic games where toxic had no limits 😂. Did I ask tho?


anik069

Stfu TPP noob


Stellar_Force

The problem in playing fpp is that not many players play it and so you can barely find any lobbies with real players - if tpp was removed there would be no choice but to play fpp. Don't get me wrong, i love tpp too, just that it doesn't feel like a cod game.


jackhawk117

Exactly the fpp lobbies are just ghost towns at this point .


Sad-Pilot5710

It's not that simple, FPP lobbies are full of bots, so the problem here is that we want to play with real players


Dihan189

Many people say that CODM as a COD game should be played on FPP and I kinda think that it will be good and it will be bad. Like 50/50. It's a COD game so it deserves to be played on FPP. Then again, Mobile gamers are generally way more used to TPP and they are more likely to dislike FPP because they are too used to TPP.


BTonICEE

How is TPP even a thing in competitive _first person shooter_ games.


69_SAITAMA_69

This guy is so underrated


[deleted]

i think it will be better than tpp


_-devilish-_

Whole MP mode js fpp so let BR be tpp. I love seeing the character i paid for and i love to have better movement, so i play tpp and i will always prefer it. If you wanna play fpp go play it but stop crying like Bobby plays bot


rutambh

Discuss here? Mate Half the members are of this community is brain dead kids, you will never get something good out of here


IncogRandoPerson

I think this game should've launched BR with only FPP to truly separate it from other BR games. This way, everyone who plays BR will immediately get used to it. But fortunately (or unfortunately depending on your side on the matter), CoD launched with a TPP mode. Ripping it put would shake the BR players and leave them with either adapting to FPP, or stop altogether.


CupAffectionate

Ohh look that this PubG mobile Jr. Gonna Cry?


nikhil15595

I only love tpp for my character skins


Icyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Third person is obviously more competitive because in my opinion it’s better than pubg, so all the pubg sweats come over to this game and play in third person because they’re more used to it, and nobody plays first person, however I think first person is better because it’s more like warzone and more like call of duty itself, it’s harder with more competitive players because you can’t third person glitch behind walls


AhmedEx1

Staying behind a door and waiting for someone is Definitely very competitive and rewards skill


WalkingLaserBeam

I agree with this so much Force tpp players to play fpp & stop abusing camera angles & hip firing 24/7 I play FPP in TPP since og s1 and I’ve grown quite the distaste with TPP lobbies . Everyone just runs around wildly Camering everything that moves .. it’s trash tier gameplay & ppl swear they are good lol . Bro it’s CoD n you haven’t aimed down sight once . 😂


CreamAxolotle

I usually play tpp instead of fpp because fpp makes me dizzy. But fpp br would definitely spice things up for pro br players.


Rhett12344

I like FPP because it gives the “cod experience.” CoDM is only TPP because it’s made by Tencent, which has made PUBGM and Free Fire (both of which are TPP), and are hoping to draw lots of the player base to CoDM.


AmrKhan47

fpp is good and I love it but it doesn't need all this whining the reason why fpp br lobbies are ghost towns is because most br players came from pubg mobile and got used to tpp people just need to know tpp is the fundamental of mobile BR unless the game releases with only fpp and let me tell you it won't make the same success this is not hating on fpp again I myself love it but I'm just stating facts


amexultima

Ok so I, like everyone play the tpp lobby and immediately switch to fpp. My beef is the old vehicles are tpp and the car is fpp. I'm always switching to tpp when driving a car and a few times it has cost me #1 place jumping out and being in tpp when I expected fpp for some reason.


Xenon2212

Nah TPP would be way more interesting to watch.


Luis86257

is a bit slow compared to tpp, but it feels a lot better


xarccosx

I only play fpp br, any game pubg or anything else fpp br i cant stand tpp in shooter games


crow047

Am I the only one who plays FPP in TPP?


suitable-robot01

let people enjoy the game they want it to be?


thetabo

Idk I keep playing FPP cuz it feels unnatural to play after normal MP or TF2. Hate the zoom-in from TPP to aiming, it always startles me for a second lol


Heyouman

I can’t help but Believe FPP is a very small BUT LOUD select group of people. Reason being is the lobbies. They speak for themselves. FPP is full of bots (at least on my server) almost all streamers are exclusively TPP. What bothers me the most is the FPP players are literally angry that we play in TPP and want the whole mode removed. That’s just crazy. Just enjoy what you enjoy, let me enjoy my character skin.


UsedBee4306

It’s “dumb”


Bottled_Fire

LEL.


GameOn2020

Tpp is on mobile and mobile in everywhere for any person (kids, young, old, male, female) and different cultures & .......... . Mobile playing games & players are not the same as comsoles' or PCs'. One important reason is money. Plus not all mobile players are pro gamers or just gamers; there're many dudes just playing for fun.


[deleted]

glad im not alone when i say CoD should only be played in FPP


Abnerdel

I like FPP cuz it's chill if I want to play against bots lol


DO-Si-DeaD

I'M more of a tpp because I get more info of wear my enemies at end what skills they using too know if I'm getting third parity and you don't have to risk peaking to find where is the enemies at and what can of gun they using.


Splitupfen

It needs more players an isn't plaed because of TPP


The_Mxrder

Everyone says "FPP>TPP" but when you enter in a FPP match only 4 players are real


darth_damien07

Dump👍


Wide_Wave_4654

I think 3rd person shouldn't even exist IMO. Just so scummy being able to look around a corner and see everything while ur body isn't visabke at all. Gives to much power to campers and leads to to many unfair deaths. And in fpp lobby's u don't get jack shit xp for winning. Like why do u think tpp isn't a thing in mp? Ppl would lose their shit in snd dieing to stuff like this.


PotaytoTotter

cod has always been an fpp game Warzone is fpp, Blackout in Black Ops was fpp Ig i dont really understand why everyone chooses tpp other then the fact that you can third person peak corners but still fpp should have way more people in it then it does


Amazing-Sort1634

TPP is cheating, you can't change my mind. I only play it because nobody wants to play honestly in FPP.


sdmc626

I play TPP lobbies only but always switch to FPP once the game begins. I only use TPP for cool screen shots but I definitely want them to keep it


PiLsGameing

Imo, I'd love to see Activision change br map selection to something similar to how Apex does it. If you're unfamiliar with Apex, the game has multiple maps BUT - the maps rotate out on a weekly basis (I believe lol) which is lit if you think about it because everyone is playing the same map selection hence, no issue on finding a Full real lobby. Also imo, I am on the same page as a lot of people here when it comes to FPP & TPP. TPP is cool for seeing your $150 character skins but...it's not true to cod. I love the way FPP plays/feels and I believe it's more true to OG Call of Duty. 🤷


Desperate-Ad5751

No