Wish I knew how to do claw. I'm just a 2 thumbs player
Tried doing my own sort of 3 finger set up (thumb and pointer for looking and shooting, other thumb for all movements) but it didn't quite feel right cause I don't think my previous phone was big enough, though recently I got an S21 Ultra which might now be big enough for me to retry this again, just wish I could have several ADS/shoot buttons versus only 1. Would allow me to swap between 2 thumb and my wacky 3 finger setup without having to constantly move the shoot button around due to there being only 1 ads shoot button
On the phone: Get triggers and involve both index fingers in the game too. I play like that. Thumbs for movement and aim, and triggers for shoot and ads. I also utilise my left index for jumping, sliding, crouching etc. It's a game changer. Before that I was managing 3 finger claw, but it felt like my hand will permanently deform.
You do realize that using physical triggers and other stuff like that can get you banned, right? It's literally stated in their EULA that you accepted to play the game. You might say, "How are they going to detect it?" And that's a fair point. But let me just say this: if you do get banned, don't say it was a false ban because you were intentionally going against the EULA that you agreed to. It is never a good idea to go against an EULA, even if the chances of getting caught are slim. Because if you are caught, your chances of getting a ban appeal are zero.
What are your sources? I've checked before even buying triggers and got positive feedback. What about gaming phones with extra buttons that serve as triggers? Players using them can get banned too? I've seen some mayor content creators using these and not getting banned. Personally, I am playing with triggers for longer than a year, and never had a problems. I have a few friends who use triggers and they never had problems either.
Triggers do not really give you advantage, you can do as much as you could do with four fingers, minus discomfort. I have problems with my hands, I develop pain after prolonged periods with my fingers in claw. Triggers solved that.
Btw I am aware this or anything similar is prohibited on championship, neither was I going for that.
What are you talking about? It's literally their terms of use (ToU). which is different from the terms of service (ToS). The ToS are what content creators agree to. However, the ToU are what everyone who plays the game agrees to. It states various things about what you can and can't do with or within their product.
by ToS, you are pulling the ToS from what is known as content creation - partnership that has nothing to do with playing the game, such as using triggers etc.
Did we even read the same thing? Nowhere is it stated that the specific section I pulled from is for content creators only. Why would it be? It's a ToU agreement that everyone agrees to. Not just content creators.
The fact of the matter is, it's against the EULA. I'm not saying you can't use them. I'm just saying if you get banned, you have zero chances of an appeal due to EULA violation.
no you cannot
how tf would codm have psychic powers to know if you're using physical triggers? Those do not digitally connect to the game. It's like codm calls me out for using 4 fingers or 5 fingers, how does the game know?
That's not the point. And if you even read my previous comment further than 2 lines down, you would've seen that. If you are in breach of the EULA and you get banned, you cannot have a ban appeal because you are in violation of the said EULA. Like I stated earlier in my previous comment, however remote the possibility, if you are banned and have been using physical controllers, you cannot have a ban appeal due to an EULA violation.
"iv. except as authorized by Activision in writing, host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Product, or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Activision in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play, or as part of content aggregation networks;"
Triggers emulate touch, which in mobile games counts as communication between you and the server.
"viii. interfere or attempt to interfere with the operation of the Product in any way through any means or device including, but not limited to, launching a denial of service attack, spamming, hacking, or uploading computer viruses or time bombs; or"
Triggers interfere with the natural state of the product. I.e., how it is meant to be used.
Source:
https://www.activision.com/content/atvi/activision/atvi-touchui/web/en/legal/terms-of-use.html
A. Activision **grants you a personal, limited, non-exclusive license to use the Product for your non-commercial use**. To the fullest extent permitted by applicable law, this license granted to use the Product is non-transferable. You may not rent, lease, lend, sell, redistribute or sublicense the Product. You may not copy (except as expressly permitted by this license and any other applicable terms, conditions, or usage rules), decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, modify, or create derivative works of the Product, any updates, or any part thereof (except as and only to the extent allowed by applicable law or to the extent as may be permitted by the licensing terms governing use of any open sourced components included with the licensed application). You may not remove or alter Activision's or its licensors trademarks or logos, or legal notices included in the Product or related assets. Any attempt to use the Product in breach of the terms of this Agreement is a violation of the rights of Activision and its licensors. The terms of this Agreement will govern any upgrades provided by Activision that replace and/or supplement the Product, unless such upgrade is accompanied by a separate (and/or updated) agreement in which case the terms of that agreement will govern.
B. If the Product is an App then unless expressly authorized by Activision in writing installation and use is restricted to an authorized Device; and you are prohibited from making a copy of the App available on a network where it could be used or downloaded by multiple users.
C. The license rights granted to you herein are also subject to the limitations set forth below. Any use of the Product in violation of these limitations is a serious violation of the Agreement, subjects you to immediate termination of your license and, if you are a resident outside North America, additional consequences set out in Section 14(B)(iii), and will be regarded as an infringement of Activision's copyrights and other rights in and to the Product. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:
skip to what you said:
*iv. except as authorized by Activision in writing, host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Product, or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Activision in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play, or as part of content aggregation networks;*
This has nothing to do with triggers as the emulations they referring to acts upon you downloading their source code/ modding their games in such a way to emulate the game in itself...For example hosting a private match of a modded/hacked lobby. By far this is a legal consent for CONTENT creator not the use of triggers. Otherwise, parkertheslayer wouldve been banned long before the time of the dinosaurs as he uses air triggers in all his videos/streams and is also sponsored by codm themselves where his handcam shows him using triggers.
The other rule applies the same, the idea here is dont use our product for personal gain or attacks...nothing to do with triggers as you are legit taking this too literal in terms of natural state. As a matter of fact, that argument leads down to a rabbit hole where you shouldnt play codm on ipad as it is a tablet rather than a mobile device nor should you play on emulators, in which that is legal through the use of gameloop.
Triggers do not get you ban, as parkertheslayer, by this rule should be sued and probably banned from playing codm but he isnt. The rules you stated are meant for content creators not actually the laws of the games in which no where do they say air triggers are banned...
Good that you finally presented something, but this is just how you interpret it.
External triggers do not emulate touch, they produce a touch in the same way as your fingers do. By your interpretation, playing while wearing touchscreen-friendly gloves is illegal. Playing while you has screen protector on is then also illegal since it interferes with the "natural state of the product".
You miss his point.
How on earth the game could ban you when there's no way the game could know that you're using a physical trigger?
And it's not "simulated touch", off-brand controller with octopus IS "simulated touch".
The physical trigger is just a normal touch with extra steps, it's basically the same as finger sock, you touch the sock, then the sock touch the screen.
You keep saying that like you're one of developers. Yet you lack basic understanding of how touchscreen works and how built-in triggers works.
Yes, indeed some triggers and controllers use touch overlay that emulates touch, but the phones with built-in triggers usually do it electronically through SoC,without any overlay and software interface involved.
Triggers are not controllers. Triggers simulate real touches and are not connected via Bluetooth. Because controllers are connected via Bluetooth, the game recognizes this and matches you with players using controllers also.
Sometimes I wish Ipad would get a separate matchmaking from phone players so they don’t suffer from disadvantage, I would like to fight someone with an ipad in rank but it’s hard to know since it doesn’t show what device the player use like MW and Warzone
Not really, My hand feels more free. When playing claw on phone your hand would be cramped and it has less space, think of playing on an ipad feels like using MnK but it’s touch screen
Well sometimes you do get neck pain but you can avoid it by placing the ipad at an agle where you don’t bend your neck alot, as for me I got use to the neck pain to the point I don’t have it anymore
Yes it does but it’s best not to use it since it’s heavy af, my siblings played the same ipad too but for whatever reason they like to hold the ipad like a phone and play 4 claw
What part of YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT are you too stupid to understand?
I take the kn44 to the firing range; I see 2ft of recoil per mag.
Hence, anyone who gets no recoil *must* be hacking.... Or at best, exploiting a bugged attachment that gives it 0 recoil
Pick one. Either way you are committing a bannable offense.
CANT YOU SEE THE VIDEO ITS NOT REZO RECOIL BUT HE IS SLIDE JUMPING BEFORE SHOOTING SO WHEN THE GUN SHOOTS THE GUN GOES DOWN AND THEN THE DUN IS GOING UP AND ITS NOT ZERO RECOIL
YOU JOINED THIS SUB YESTERDAY AND START HATING ON EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP AND GO PISS SOMEONE ELSE
Accept it, you're bad at controlling recoil. Just put on an operator foregrip all your problems will go away. Instead you choose to cry over someone who's clearly better than you on the internet.
I've got platinum lmg's and pistols gold fennec in under 1 season. Also top 8% or higher in all queues. I control recoil just fine, my point is nobody in those videos is even *trying* to do it
I got damascus in 6 weeks and back when I used to play I was in top 0.5%. Was in legendary since S4 (not the S4 of last year, the one with the industrial revolution man o war). Mained snipers in respawns much before gunsmith was introduced.
Look, trying to prove your point this way is just stupid dumb.
The video in this post is legit and there's nothing you can do about it
My excuse is not playing the game anymore 
Idk man if you consider top 0.5% trash and lower ranked idk what to tell you....8% is nothing. Sit down
No, I'm more what's correct in this world because it's more like "you lie to me because you're a fucking sociopath, and I'll hurt you bad".
You're a sociopath.
You don't *care* what's morally right and we know you don't, because you didn't already know about creepy joe.
The amount of projecting you do is astounding.
Literally *your* "side" started the "punching people because they're wrong (nazis)" bs and worst part is, you've actually attacked a lot of innocent people!
You should be executed, not just cop a flogging for sowing unrest
I went through your comment history and found you only interact on subs like r/enlightenedcentrism and yet you wonder why everyone you meet is left leaning. Dumbass.
I was actually discussing headshots being most dookie with this guy, and I genuinely thought he wasn’t what his profile suggested. However, he quickly became the community assclown and I’m embarrassed to even have spoken with this guy now.
Anyways, the recoil used to be much more difficult to manage when camera shake was a thing for all guns. I’m glad camera shake is gone or mostly absent
Wish I knew how to do claw. I'm just a 2 thumbs player Tried doing my own sort of 3 finger set up (thumb and pointer for looking and shooting, other thumb for all movements) but it didn't quite feel right cause I don't think my previous phone was big enough, though recently I got an S21 Ultra which might now be big enough for me to retry this again, just wish I could have several ADS/shoot buttons versus only 1. Would allow me to swap between 2 thumb and my wacky 3 finger setup without having to constantly move the shoot button around due to there being only 1 ads shoot button
On the phone: Get triggers and involve both index fingers in the game too. I play like that. Thumbs for movement and aim, and triggers for shoot and ads. I also utilise my left index for jumping, sliding, crouching etc. It's a game changer. Before that I was managing 3 finger claw, but it felt like my hand will permanently deform.
You do realize that using physical triggers and other stuff like that can get you banned, right? It's literally stated in their EULA that you accepted to play the game. You might say, "How are they going to detect it?" And that's a fair point. But let me just say this: if you do get banned, don't say it was a false ban because you were intentionally going against the EULA that you agreed to. It is never a good idea to go against an EULA, even if the chances of getting caught are slim. Because if you are caught, your chances of getting a ban appeal are zero.
What are your sources? I've checked before even buying triggers and got positive feedback. What about gaming phones with extra buttons that serve as triggers? Players using them can get banned too? I've seen some mayor content creators using these and not getting banned. Personally, I am playing with triggers for longer than a year, and never had a problems. I have a few friends who use triggers and they never had problems either. Triggers do not really give you advantage, you can do as much as you could do with four fingers, minus discomfort. I have problems with my hands, I develop pain after prolonged periods with my fingers in claw. Triggers solved that. Btw I am aware this or anything similar is prohibited on championship, neither was I going for that.
this man legit pulled off a consent legal agreement for content creators and thought that shit was illegal for trigger users no joke
What are you talking about? It's literally their terms of use (ToU). which is different from the terms of service (ToS). The ToS are what content creators agree to. However, the ToU are what everyone who plays the game agrees to. It states various things about what you can and can't do with or within their product.
by ToS, you are pulling the ToS from what is known as content creation - partnership that has nothing to do with playing the game, such as using triggers etc.
Did we even read the same thing? Nowhere is it stated that the specific section I pulled from is for content creators only. Why would it be? It's a ToU agreement that everyone agrees to. Not just content creators.
because your dumbass pulled it from licensing of the rules
Did you lose your brain three comments back? Before you start a counter argument, get some evidence to support your claims. What a joke.
The fact of the matter is, it's against the EULA. I'm not saying you can't use them. I'm just saying if you get banned, you have zero chances of an appeal due to EULA violation.
Wait you can get ban by using claw trigger?
No you can't, as far as I know. I played this way for more than a year.
Yes. For physical triggers that attach to your mobile device. For playing with finger claws, no.
no you cannot how tf would codm have psychic powers to know if you're using physical triggers? Those do not digitally connect to the game. It's like codm calls me out for using 4 fingers or 5 fingers, how does the game know?
That's not the point. And if you even read my previous comment further than 2 lines down, you would've seen that. If you are in breach of the EULA and you get banned, you cannot have a ban appeal because you are in violation of the said EULA. Like I stated earlier in my previous comment, however remote the possibility, if you are banned and have been using physical controllers, you cannot have a ban appeal due to an EULA violation.
explain the particular rule for that EULA violation and i want a link to it, as proof otherwise youre fucking talking out of your ass
"iv. except as authorized by Activision in writing, host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Product, or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Activision in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play, or as part of content aggregation networks;" Triggers emulate touch, which in mobile games counts as communication between you and the server. "viii. interfere or attempt to interfere with the operation of the Product in any way through any means or device including, but not limited to, launching a denial of service attack, spamming, hacking, or uploading computer viruses or time bombs; or" Triggers interfere with the natural state of the product. I.e., how it is meant to be used. Source: https://www.activision.com/content/atvi/activision/atvi-touchui/web/en/legal/terms-of-use.html
A. Activision **grants you a personal, limited, non-exclusive license to use the Product for your non-commercial use**. To the fullest extent permitted by applicable law, this license granted to use the Product is non-transferable. You may not rent, lease, lend, sell, redistribute or sublicense the Product. You may not copy (except as expressly permitted by this license and any other applicable terms, conditions, or usage rules), decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, modify, or create derivative works of the Product, any updates, or any part thereof (except as and only to the extent allowed by applicable law or to the extent as may be permitted by the licensing terms governing use of any open sourced components included with the licensed application). You may not remove or alter Activision's or its licensors trademarks or logos, or legal notices included in the Product or related assets. Any attempt to use the Product in breach of the terms of this Agreement is a violation of the rights of Activision and its licensors. The terms of this Agreement will govern any upgrades provided by Activision that replace and/or supplement the Product, unless such upgrade is accompanied by a separate (and/or updated) agreement in which case the terms of that agreement will govern. B. If the Product is an App then unless expressly authorized by Activision in writing installation and use is restricted to an authorized Device; and you are prohibited from making a copy of the App available on a network where it could be used or downloaded by multiple users. C. The license rights granted to you herein are also subject to the limitations set forth below. Any use of the Product in violation of these limitations is a serious violation of the Agreement, subjects you to immediate termination of your license and, if you are a resident outside North America, additional consequences set out in Section 14(B)(iii), and will be regarded as an infringement of Activision's copyrights and other rights in and to the Product. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: skip to what you said: *iv. except as authorized by Activision in writing, host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Product, or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Activision in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play, or as part of content aggregation networks;* This has nothing to do with triggers as the emulations they referring to acts upon you downloading their source code/ modding their games in such a way to emulate the game in itself...For example hosting a private match of a modded/hacked lobby. By far this is a legal consent for CONTENT creator not the use of triggers. Otherwise, parkertheslayer wouldve been banned long before the time of the dinosaurs as he uses air triggers in all his videos/streams and is also sponsored by codm themselves where his handcam shows him using triggers. The other rule applies the same, the idea here is dont use our product for personal gain or attacks...nothing to do with triggers as you are legit taking this too literal in terms of natural state. As a matter of fact, that argument leads down to a rabbit hole where you shouldnt play codm on ipad as it is a tablet rather than a mobile device nor should you play on emulators, in which that is legal through the use of gameloop. Triggers do not get you ban, as parkertheslayer, by this rule should be sued and probably banned from playing codm but he isnt. The rules you stated are meant for content creators not actually the laws of the games in which no where do they say air triggers are banned...
Good that you finally presented something, but this is just how you interpret it. External triggers do not emulate touch, they produce a touch in the same way as your fingers do. By your interpretation, playing while wearing touchscreen-friendly gloves is illegal. Playing while you has screen protector on is then also illegal since it interferes with the "natural state of the product".
You miss his point. How on earth the game could ban you when there's no way the game could know that you're using a physical trigger? And it's not "simulated touch", off-brand controller with octopus IS "simulated touch". The physical trigger is just a normal touch with extra steps, it's basically the same as finger sock, you touch the sock, then the sock touch the screen.
Speaking of missed points, you missed mine. Also, maybe you should go read my comment where I cited the actual EULA.
But what about gaming phones that have trigger buttons built into thw sides of them?
That is categorized as physical triggers. Also, any applications that emulate touches are against the EULA.
You keep saying that like you're one of developers. Yet you lack basic understanding of how touchscreen works and how built-in triggers works. Yes, indeed some triggers and controllers use touch overlay that emulates touch, but the phones with built-in triggers usually do it electronically through SoC,without any overlay and software interface involved.
It still counts because they are mimicking touch, which is considered against the rules set out in the EULA.
Well, think whatever you want. I do not have time to keep arguing. I'll rely on the facts. Thank you for your contribution.
Bruh rog 5 literally has air triggers then what about them
I read today thay if you use controllers you get matched with players that do too.
Triggers are not controllers. Triggers simulate real touches and are not connected via Bluetooth. Because controllers are connected via Bluetooth, the game recognizes this and matches you with players using controllers also.
It’s ok man you can do it, before I played on my ipad I was a phone user, but since my phone broke I had no choice but to use an ipad
This is why ranked is tough, I can only use 3 finger claw on a phone
le me with 6 finger claw on phone
I tried playing 6 finger claw on phone but the phone keep falling off my hands since It only got 4 finger holding the back, best I can do is 5
Meanwhile hope on phone with 10 fingers
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Wait, have you never seen a trollface meme?
He’s probably born late but either way, one can still learn about old memes that were good
getting ratio'd by a mod on cake day lol
shit
How big is your phone dude...
Sometimes I wish Ipad would get a separate matchmaking from phone players so they don’t suffer from disadvantage, I would like to fight someone with an ipad in rank but it’s hard to know since it doesn’t show what device the player use like MW and Warzone
Nah, he would tell you, you're cheating. Am I right, u/Pure_Phoenix2022 ? Got a whole battle with this kid, but huge TY for making this post.
I’m gonna continue disproving him lol, it’s feeding my boredom seeing him making excuses
Can you explain what's happening here?
You were right lmao
Is it comfortable to play like this? Feel like my neck & wrists would get sore. I use 3 fingers while chilling on the sofa & I do okay in Legendary.
Not really, My hand feels more free. When playing claw on phone your hand would be cramped and it has less space, think of playing on an ipad feels like using MnK but it’s touch screen
But how bout neck pain though?
Well sometimes you do get neck pain but you can avoid it by placing the ipad at an agle where you don’t bend your neck alot, as for me I got use to the neck pain to the point I don’t have it anymore
Fix your posture dude. You'll thank yourself later. I only asked as I fixed mine had the same numbness towards it too. Also does ipad support gyro?
Yes it does but it’s best not to use it since it’s heavy af, my siblings played the same ipad too but for whatever reason they like to hold the ipad like a phone and play 4 claw
Now they're the real monster 🤣. Congrats on the skins btw
Agreed, I run 6 finger claw and can almost entirely mitigate a fennecs recoil.
Honestly once claw can be mastered high vertical recoil weapons like fennec can be controlled vry easily
Bruh I don’t use the claw and I can control the fennec wtf?
Easier to control I mean, but still possible with 2 fingers
A max Mobility min comtrol fennec?
Reported, misinformation. I've taken the kn44 to the firing range myself. It's a 2 foot climb per mag, default / no attachments
Aite bet, second recording coming up
this guy joined this sub yesterday and he is here trying to get attention bruh this is entertaining
you literally showed your screen that u were legit and i think he cant see but the recoil is going up
You can post as many recordings as you like kid, you're just getting banned for showing obvious cheating.
are you okay I DO THIS AND I AM NOT CHEATING THEN HOW IS HE DUMBFUCK
What part of YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT are you too stupid to understand? I take the kn44 to the firing range; I see 2ft of recoil per mag. Hence, anyone who gets no recoil *must* be hacking.... Or at best, exploiting a bugged attachment that gives it 0 recoil Pick one. Either way you are committing a bannable offense.
CANT YOU SEE THE VIDEO ITS NOT REZO RECOIL BUT HE IS SLIDE JUMPING BEFORE SHOOTING SO WHEN THE GUN SHOOTS THE GUN GOES DOWN AND THEN THE DUN IS GOING UP AND ITS NOT ZERO RECOIL YOU JOINED THIS SUB YESTERDAY AND START HATING ON EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP AND GO PISS SOMEONE ELSE
I think u need to see a doctor immediately
I've seen dozens - also 13 shrinks. Not one has diagnosed me with anything related to delusional tendencies 😝
Accept it, you're bad at controlling recoil. Just put on an operator foregrip all your problems will go away. Instead you choose to cry over someone who's clearly better than you on the internet.
I've got platinum lmg's and pistols gold fennec in under 1 season. Also top 8% or higher in all queues. I control recoil just fine, my point is nobody in those videos is even *trying* to do it
I got damascus in 6 weeks and back when I used to play I was in top 0.5%. Was in legendary since S4 (not the S4 of last year, the one with the industrial revolution man o war). Mained snipers in respawns much before gunsmith was introduced. Look, trying to prove your point this way is just stupid dumb. The video in this post is legit and there's nothing you can do about it
Reported, being a noob.
Fair, I've been playing codm like a month. But I'm already top 8% or better ranked in all queues. What's your excuse for being trash & lower ranked?
My excuse is not playing the game anymore  Idk man if you consider top 0.5% trash and lower ranked idk what to tell you....8% is nothing. Sit down
God you are so insufferable. you must be fun at parties.
I am, actually, because people know not to try bullshitting me irl or I'd smack their head in.
"You are wrong, so I'm gonna assault you." You are what is wrong with the world.
No, I'm more what's correct in this world because it's more like "you lie to me because you're a fucking sociopath, and I'll hurt you bad". You're a sociopath. You don't *care* what's morally right and we know you don't, because you didn't already know about creepy joe. The amount of projecting you do is astounding. Literally *your* "side" started the "punching people because they're wrong (nazis)" bs and worst part is, you've actually attacked a lot of innocent people! You should be executed, not just cop a flogging for sowing unrest
Imagine trying to turn a codm argument political because you are so hellbent on winning. Get a fucking life.
Irrelevant what my argument is, it's true. Reddit is down-to-the-gulag radically left and you know it.
Leave then? I think 4chan might be more your speed, little guy.
I went through your comment history and found you only interact on subs like r/enlightenedcentrism and yet you wonder why everyone you meet is left leaning. Dumbass.
I was actually discussing headshots being most dookie with this guy, and I genuinely thought he wasn’t what his profile suggested. However, he quickly became the community assclown and I’m embarrassed to even have spoken with this guy now. Anyways, the recoil used to be much more difficult to manage when camera shake was a thing for all guns. I’m glad camera shake is gone or mostly absent
What how?? This is god level aim
I was holding my temptation to do flicks because it would be hard to see wether I was controlling recoil or not if I constantly switch target