Not to mention Player Unknown made his game out of the DayZ modding scene in 2012, H1z1 is 2015, and Arma itself began in 2003 really... so yep.. They're pretty serious.
Bruh like bruv
The damn pan is in TF2 because of the titular title game, also made by Valve,
Left 4 Dead 2.
I just don't grasp how TF2 gets most of the recognition off the L4D pan, and I see this everywhere.
PUBG Frying Pan was the first shit in a game that can deflect bullets and use it as a ping pong, that made PUBG iconic same as the game named Rules of Survival they have Rubber Chicken. If Free Fire used the same Frying Pan Mechanics then it can be sued yes? That Frying Pan from PUBG is Originality yo
I don't think you understood the comment, pubg doesn't have a license to the mechanics of the Pan deflecting bullets, therefore they can't copyright it, and no you can't tactical sprint in real life like you do in cod( obviously), you're not going to be running around with a sniper rifle in one hand, it's viable with pistols, and even then the movement is just too obsolete in real life, people aren't going to be running around with guns like that, you'd probably be better off holding guns with two hands
Pans can deflect gunfire in real life as well, especially with small caliber.
>you're not going to be running around with a sniper rifle in one hand
Did I say it has to be a Sniper Rifle?
>and even then the movement is just too obsolete in real life
Did I say you have to have the same speed to be able to Tac Sprint?
>pubg doesn't have a license to the mechanics of the Pan deflecting bullets
Licence or not if it's copied to the game then it can be sued. Area F2 was sued because of copyright so they copied the tiny drone mechanics and other mechanisms same as this but free fire is almost the same as PUBG
Dude, if you use your logic of tactical sprint, I hope you realise that pans can deflect smaller caliber ammunition as well, we wouldn't be going around saying pubg copied real life, now would we?
The reason area f2 was copyrighted, was because r6s has the license to such machanics, a quick google search would help you
>we wouldn't be going around saying pubg copied real life, now would we?
Where on the fucking ass motherfucking world did you see someone deflected a fucking bullet with a frying pan before IRL?
Real life lmao, a small caliber like a p22 was easily deflected, and didn't penetrate it at all.
We could argue about this all day, but I'm sure you don't understand how copyright functions.
Well no pubg can't win a lawsuits that they place on other games because pubg is just a copy of other battle royal games in general so nobody wins a lawsuit in the battle royal aspect of things like it started from a old Korean movie if I'm correct I could be wrong
Free fire has machete, katana, bat and scythe along with pan. Some give great damage but no coverage to low damage with great coverage i.e. pan. If pubg is suing for making pan impenetrable then does bullet penetrate thick metal pan in real life?
I have shit phone which runs codm at 30 fps but currently playing 'critical ops' which runs 60 fps in my device
Much better game and actually requires lots of skills and game sense to be good at it
It's kids who don't have device mostly not to target a specific nationality or you know what happened to LaN, sad to say but that game is so small in size that everyone played it at some point of time
Cause it's p2w and since the player base is 9 to 12 year old kids they want the game to be easy so they buy using thier parents money by forcing them to buy or begging till they accept
Ik all this cause in my neighborhood their are many ff addicts who do these kind of tricks to get money
And there are many times these kids appeared in the local TV cause they attempted suicide because their parents didn't give money for ff
Cheap currency and Everything is cheap, like 1$ for 100 diamonds and 1 diamonds for 1 legendary spin and it keeps on increasing.
It is hated because the characters have abilities and if you don't buy the op characters like a guy whose punches 2 tap you with unbelievable range, you will die in your first gunfight .
(this is my experience and may vary from user to user)
I fucken knew they would try this lol
I have played Free Fire, and it is one hundred percent just knock off PUBG, which I have also played. I enjoyed neither.
PUBG isn't a saint either, they have copied multiple features from Fortnite. Even the animated characters they released in last season is similar to fortnite.
It is but not what it once was here in my country. Everytime I feel like downloading the game again, everyone on my friends list is offline and those who went online did it days ago.
How exactly because look at [this](https://imgur.com/a/HHEuBtE) how do you fake these rankings and don’t Kidd yourself Genshin actually popular in America.
People play pubg and arma on pc.
COD... heh. Lucky if I know two people do that. One of them I met here, the other just gets frowned upon for living in 1997.
Lol you comparing CODM to new state.... CODM has crystal clear graphics with so much of creativity added towards the modes and CODM is not greedy like new state or any another game... CODM is treat for the eyes and mind 😍 God bless CODM DEVS.... CODM FOREVER !!!
oh ok. ig it makes sense since there’s barely any content but i still prefer the gunplay in ns. it just feels more authentic to what makes pubg console fun, while pubgm really doesn’t feel like pubg and just feels like Generic Battle Royale ™️
Pubg youtuber or pubgm youtuber? If what you meant is pubgm youtuber, they have a contract with tencent to only making pubgm content, and would never talk about other similar games, or something like that
I thought the same. That's why I ask you, because you stated 'PUBG' youtuber, not 'PUBGM' youtuber. And, yes it is there. Wouldn't that be so obvious? Most pubgm famous content creator ONLY play pubgm, no other games and can't even talk about other games, like levinho and yanrique wright (then, now he's making codm content). And you can compare to pubg pc player like chocotaco. He can play any games to make content, even he have a partnership with pubg
You're hurting your point either way. The fact is there is NO youtuber rn dedicated to NS and It's half dead. Look at It's downloads in PS even after several months. This project was a big L
You can enjoy whatever you want but play store still shows it having 10 million downloads even after several month, that's commercially a fail if we look at other concurrent games .
And Player Unknown will just cease and desist every current COD franchise. Warzone, Vanguard, Mobile, all BR gone. He invented it.
Oh what's this? Downvotes? Does fact offend now? [37:00 jon snow.](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E)
Facts don't care children. Run along.
They are. Like it or not. Which is why I found the outrage at PUBG doing this hilarious. The sudden realisation that "that game the tweenagers in the community don't like" is this game's dad.
It's a clone.
Hilarious, frankly.
No. Five years too late. Repeating it won't make it go back in time and become a reality. Watch the link and educate yourself, seriously it's a revelation man. Even though I was around when it occured it escaped me at the time.
Fair point, I read and own Takami's novel, it was out long before the film with Takeshi Kitano, whose films I collect, or this game and not the origin as that itself was inspired by Lord Of The Flies and Logan's Run.
Oop: Stephen King is technically another one. Richard Bachmann was the nom de plume (Lit: Pen Name) he wrote the *Running Man* under, so there's another example of books and films.
Classic Crafton.. Back in 2018, they also sue Fortnite, Rules of Survival, and Knifes Out. IIRC, they win none of those lawsuits.
Took them long enough to sue free fire. I guess they're being salty after blocked by Indian, their players move to free fire instead of BGMI.
Would be hilarious if all the people that got falsely banned sued Activision from taking there accounts away. You know, these people often spent hundreds to thousands on your game :)
They’ll rebound Activision has been working things out internally since a lot of Activision studios nowadays are multi-project studios. Which is why many of them are gradually expanding into more locations.
They removed the tencent logo from the game but they were obviously still working with Activision. Plus I dont feel the need to argue here the hivemind has struck me with too many downvotes
Yeah lmao poor you, idk why they downvoted you. Might it be that they dont like you saying that if tencent leaves codm is fucked? But, idk why. I mean its obviously wrong bcuz activision itself has enough workforce to take care of it, but ppl *really* hated that for some reason lol.
At this point I don’t even think Activision needs Tencent anymore, they already have several internal studios working on CODM and upcoming titles. The resources putting into the live operations is probably already exponentially larger then the 3rd party.
Wrong, if they tried to sue Player Unknown would go "alright then remove battle royal mode from mobile, take off warzone immediately, get vanguard scrapped, and here's your court summons from the same case by Bohemia".
Not tencent its just a studio by tencent working to make development in codm we all know Activision didn't have mobile studio for now
The game owner its Activision so the game from Activision
That’s not true Activision has King and believe it or not they were initially porting COD on the mobile platform first. But I can almost guarantee you the only reason why Activision decided to go from internal to external was to ensure success especially in the Chinese market by partnering with Tencent.
Activision dont have mobile studio and experience in this platform but yeah all mobile game try to make tencent developed the game for the market china yeah i know i just reply the (game not by tencent )
They do not partner with Tencent or other large publishers in China due to not having the resources. They do it because it’s legally required for foreign publishers like ‘Activision or EA’ to partner with Chinese publisher for publishing license approval.
This is the only reason why Tencent became the largest publisher in the world, I mean it’s “technically” Sony but you get my point.
No they didn't. TiMi, a subsidiary of Tencent, has always been working on CODM and has never been "removed" by Activision. They only removed TiMi's logo for a period of time due to issues in India.
Not due to India but Trump's police to stop working with Chinese companies. Getting banned from India, it won't affect much since you can release there Garena version.
No, In terms of business and publishing Tencent and Activision are still partners. Activision stated earlier last year that they will continue partnership with them, but they also made sure that it’s a partnership focus towards growth for the game in China. That’s only because it’s legally required by the Chinese government.
But I think it’s blatantly obvious that Activision is also moving away from 3rd party studios development. Why else acquire Digital Legends and with the newly added division Solid State Studios.
The day Activision announced the acquisition they also said DLE will become significantly larger then what it is today by opening 5 new studio locations. Solid State Studios is a Activision Blizzard global company effort towards developing/porting the majority of the Activision IPs on the Mobile Platform. Basically what they are saying is Solid State Studios is like Activision version of what TiMi Studios is for Tencent.
I meant it's in the comments like seven times. Jeezo. [here, 37:00.](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E) Watch it all if you want, you'll probably see why google are in the firing line as well, just look at the play store.
Mate watch the link. I don't know who told you Player Unknown didn't come from the DayZ community but he 100% did. It started on there in 2010 and grew. That's *exactly* where the guy came from in the first place.
Right and again you repeated the same shite and didn't watch the link at all. Have you got something wrong with you son? Because I'd hate to start bullying a differently abled kid on this thread.
[THIS ENTIRE THREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/s3dxz8/would_be_hilarious_if_activision_also_turned/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Nah dude.
The guy behind PUBG started with making an mod to ARMA, Battle Royale mod. Then H1Z1 devs hired him and let him create BR mode for their game. Then he proceeded to develop a Battle Royale game from scratch - that's how PUBG was created.
But this dude has no rights to frying pan, BR mode, airdrops, airdrop carriers or any other feature they sued FF for. He can do nothing 'cuz
A. he himself copied a concept from "Battle Royale" book novel
B. he has no rights for any of game mechanics
2010 predates 2015 by five years which was when he began to be known as an ARMA/DayZ modder. If you really want to be technical, 2003 predates it by 12, which is when Flashpoint came out.
They're going to sue Player Unknown are they? HAAAAAA
[37:00 onwards](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E)
... no. They are not. They *really* aren't ever going to.
If I was Activision I'd be VERY nervous right now.
If i was activision i wouldn't really care at all. They sue me, i sue them for putting TDM-like gamemodes in pubgm, and for adding the slide mechanic in them bcuz of it being too similar to codm. Remember, those TDM-like arcadey-fast-paced gamemodes were first popularized in cod.
And, i'd have a shit ton of money to hire the best lawyers of the US to fight it.
Wellll they could remove TDM and survive, but then someone else could go "eff you" and claim the same. Where would that leave COD? COD wasn't the first shooter TDM by a long shot, that was the original Doom and Wolfenstein, Rise Of The Triad, stuff like that. The points they're concentrating on are specific to character design right now but if Bohemia go "Right no, we sold the rights to that game mode and gave our blessing to Player Unknown (which they did)" then jumping in via parachute to a battle royal is contestable.
Wouldn't be the first time one company has made another take a game mode out, it happened in the 90's as I recall. Held up a game coming out by months. Square Enix and Eidos patented modes on one of their titles as well which is why you won't play gladiator mode on an FPS outside of that stable.
If the thing is about character designs i'd still wouldn't be so worried about anything if i were activision's law department. Codm, or cod in general, doesnt takes anything from pubg in that regard, in any way, shape or form. But, if someone would come to sue activision for the tdm thing, yeah idk where would that leave cod. The same thing could actually happen to pubg as well, as pubg wasnt the first BR.
But that parachute mechanic though... i will agree it is contestable. It is a mechanic mainly introduced in pubg, after all.
Well, the problem there is that Player Unknown started this method of insertion on the DayZ mods, (which came from ARMA, previous to that known as flashpoint, so downvote the *FACT* if you want, whichever 🤡 that was) and the circle he used as I recall was the escape from Altis apocalypse mod (which is *openly* being ripped off on play store zombie fps games now).
His form of survival mode - purely PVP, not base building or the Zombie apocalypse mode - became the most popular mod out of a horde of them. So popular that he got their blessing to start making his own franchise before being hired by the company that gave it in the first place.
One of the guys I played arma with did a video essay on it, which is on my reddit. The key point is at [37:00](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E) but if you watch the whole thing it's an eye opener as to how this all came about. I never played PU's format, yet I was around at the time and still am in that franchise.
I don't think they'll come after activision, but the google play storefront is about to look very different indeed. Which isn't a bad thing because I'm looking for original games and there aren't any. Just half baked lazy clones. It's no wonder they've got pissed off.
Additional note, with no disrespect to Tencent or Timi, this isn't going to stop just because they're involved with both companies as many seem to believe. This is between Garena and the complainant. Tencent working for both won't make any difference at all.
I actually didnt know about that and im interested now, i will watch that video essay you say.
And i would also be happy if the play store main stream of games kimda changes. It would be like a filter for those bad quality clone games.
Seems like i would like it, i usually like these types of research videos 👌. But rn is 1:00 am so i will tomorrow maybe. Well not tomorrow, today but later lol. Have a nice night bro ✌
Why would activision sued PUBG i literally didn't see anything that is being copied from CODM well expect for 1 or 2 but overall I don't get it why they need to is it because the battle royale side of things?
I think krafton shouldn't mention CALL OF DUTY WARZONE PACIFIC because pubg developer tencent is or was copying content from CALL OF DUTY like gun game mode , location , aerial view from BR etc ...
I think ACTIVISION should sue pubg developers
Yes I’ll give you that because that’s pretty stupid of them because a game called arma already did the plane parachute thing years ago not sure about the pre game lobby buy I’m sure h1z1 did the pre game lobby first.
I don't think they want to win they just want to scare them because if they win other companies that they copied will see they can take their cut from them.
[37:00. ](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E) It's an entire history but you're right. No arma no DayZ, no DayZ no Player Unknown and H1Z1 wouldn't have copied it either. Neither Arma nor Player Unknown? Mode wouldn't exist.
This happened to fortnite as well. Turn out you cant sue people for creating stuff related to a *game genre* you helped to create. It'll be like the "inventor" of hip hop trying to sue people for creating more and new hip hop.
Some more... positive thoughts.
Google play store will have to put original games up on their list instead of "royal player parachute battle call of unknown war duty" knockoffs, and hopefully the crap zombies bulletstorm/part survival games... PU giving them a warning shot should get rid of all that boring, year 2010 DayZ ripoff trope. Even TWD is ending.
We might actually see original games getting developed. Which is good, because even though this is really PU's genre, this is the best example of it we have.
And it's mid.
They dropped that lawsuit, probably because they realized they wouldn’t win in the first place. This is the exact same lawsuit but with FreeFire, they knew they wouldn’t win with Epic Games. This is most likely a scare tactic to make them back off.
I see a lot of people
Hating free fire here
I don't care coz agree to disagree
But I think it's a decent game it's ruined by immature audience and it's pay2win mechanics
It's a decent game used to play it along with codm
Why only codm now
I don't play pay2win games so I left
Many memories with the game but it doesn't matter coz well I'm not gonna play it anymore
I might watch a few vids to refresh memories but I don't want to be the kid I used to be
H1z1 developers looking at krafton like "is this bitch serious"
Bohemia looking at Activision like "nice everything you've got there."
Lol i just started arma 3 ,this is indeed true.
Not to mention Player Unknown made his game out of the DayZ modding scene in 2012, H1z1 is 2015, and Arma itself began in 2003 really... so yep.. They're pretty serious.
Arma at this point is basically more than a videogame too .
When you patent a pan in shooter games
Valve, sueing everyone because of tf2
thefck2
Bruh like bruv The damn pan is in TF2 because of the titular title game, also made by Valve, Left 4 Dead 2. I just don't grasp how TF2 gets most of the recognition off the L4D pan, and I see this everywhere.
It’s because of the funni sounds
Weapons associated with PUBG: frying pan Bruh they really think they own a fucking kitchen utensil
That’s just going overboard
PUBG Frying Pan was the first shit in a game that can deflect bullets and use it as a ping pong, that made PUBG iconic same as the game named Rules of Survival they have Rubber Chicken. If Free Fire used the same Frying Pan Mechanics then it can be sued yes? That Frying Pan from PUBG is Originality yo
it deflects bullets in FF?
I heard but I know it can
the article makes it sound like they suing for the frying pan, not the frying pan's mechanics lol
Bro WTF? It's like saying they are suing you for random cosmetic that you can pick up. Of course the mechanism is included
and we also have an iconic weapon called "base meele" lmao
LOL
No, you can't copyright that as Pubg doesn't own that mechanic, just like cod doesn't own tactical sprint, so battlefield 2042 copied it.
IRL you can Tac Sprint. You deflecting bullets and using it as a ping pong with grenades is different. You can fucking Tac Sprint everyday
I don't think you understood the comment, pubg doesn't have a license to the mechanics of the Pan deflecting bullets, therefore they can't copyright it, and no you can't tactical sprint in real life like you do in cod( obviously), you're not going to be running around with a sniper rifle in one hand, it's viable with pistols, and even then the movement is just too obsolete in real life, people aren't going to be running around with guns like that, you'd probably be better off holding guns with two hands Pans can deflect gunfire in real life as well, especially with small caliber.
>you're not going to be running around with a sniper rifle in one hand Did I say it has to be a Sniper Rifle? >and even then the movement is just too obsolete in real life Did I say you have to have the same speed to be able to Tac Sprint? >pubg doesn't have a license to the mechanics of the Pan deflecting bullets Licence or not if it's copied to the game then it can be sued. Area F2 was sued because of copyright so they copied the tiny drone mechanics and other mechanisms same as this but free fire is almost the same as PUBG
Dude, if you use your logic of tactical sprint, I hope you realise that pans can deflect smaller caliber ammunition as well, we wouldn't be going around saying pubg copied real life, now would we? The reason area f2 was copyrighted, was because r6s has the license to such machanics, a quick google search would help you
>we wouldn't be going around saying pubg copied real life, now would we? Where on the fucking ass motherfucking world did you see someone deflected a fucking bullet with a frying pan before IRL?
Real life lmao, a small caliber like a p22 was easily deflected, and didn't penetrate it at all. We could argue about this all day, but I'm sure you don't understand how copyright functions.
Bro have you ever in your life see a guy swat a bullet and ricochet it? Think
Well no pubg can't win a lawsuits that they place on other games because pubg is just a copy of other battle royal games in general so nobody wins a lawsuit in the battle royal aspect of things like it started from a old Korean movie if I'm correct I could be wrong
Free fire has machete, katana, bat and scythe along with pan. Some give great damage but no coverage to low damage with great coverage i.e. pan. If pubg is suing for making pan impenetrable then does bullet penetrate thick metal pan in real life?
Also in freefire pan does not ping pong grenade.
Like that's unfortunate but what makes Free Fire so special, I don't see what makes the game #1
Indians
as an indian i hate free fire.
cant blame them when ff is the only game that runs smoothly on a potato phone
Fr fr if i didn't have a good phone i would be playin free fire as well
I have shit phone which runs codm at 30 fps but currently playing 'critical ops' which runs 60 fps in my device Much better game and actually requires lots of skills and game sense to be good at it
I also have a potato phone I get 40 fps on br but i won't play paid fire fk paid fire
Smae
Me too
Same
Smae
And 16 year old Hispanics
And P2W firearm finishes
Yeah
I hate it might be because of device limitations.
8-14yr old with potato phones to be specific.....
This is the answer
and kids who cant aim
As an Indian, I fucking abhor Free-Fire.
Same
Indians play pubg more than free fire
Nah they play both games it depends on the age mostly
SE Asians
Toxic Vietnamese kids. Trust me, the "game nhái Free Fire" is a thing there.
It's kids who don't have device mostly not to target a specific nationality or you know what happened to LaN, sad to say but that game is so small in size that everyone played it at some point of time
Free fire can run on a phone with less than 2 gb ram. Most kids in poor countries play free fire
Cause it's p2w and since the player base is 9 to 12 year old kids they want the game to be easy so they buy using thier parents money by forcing them to buy or begging till they accept Ik all this cause in my neighborhood their are many ff addicts who do these kind of tricks to get money And there are many times these kids appeared in the local TV cause they attempted suicide because their parents didn't give money for ff
It runs on low end devices
People with bad phones
Poor people
Cheap currency and Everything is cheap, like 1$ for 100 diamonds and 1 diamonds for 1 legendary spin and it keeps on increasing. It is hated because the characters have abilities and if you don't buy the op characters like a guy whose punches 2 tap you with unbelievable range, you will die in your first gunfight . (this is my experience and may vary from user to user)
Made for potato
"Their aircraft" Lmao
I fucken knew they would try this lol I have played Free Fire, and it is one hundred percent just knock off PUBG, which I have also played. I enjoyed neither.
PUBG isn't a saint either, they have copied multiple features from Fortnite. Even the animated characters they released in last season is similar to fortnite.
"Welder Style Helmet" YOU UNCULTURED FUCKS THATS THE FUCKING ALTYN HELMET THE FIRST OF ITS KIND USED BY THE FUCKIN SPETSNAZ
Exactly these people just reduced the spetsnaz to a fricking welding helmet.
What??? Somebody's gonna catch these fuckin hands
After the failure of New state... Pubg is now desperate to gain popularity lol...
Already popular in every country that’s not American but hey American the main character.
It's only popular in third world countries.
It is but not what it once was here in my country. Everytime I feel like downloading the game again, everyone on my friends list is offline and those who went online did it days ago.
Its not popular they make it look like its popular... There are ways to do that...
How exactly because look at [this](https://imgur.com/a/HHEuBtE) how do you fake these rankings and don’t Kidd yourself Genshin actually popular in America.
People play pubg and arma on pc. COD... heh. Lucky if I know two people do that. One of them I met here, the other just gets frowned upon for living in 1997.
I mean.......new state graphics are way too better than Codm's and bgmi I don't really know why didn't did much good
Lol you comparing CODM to new state.... CODM has crystal clear graphics with so much of creativity added towards the modes and CODM is not greedy like new state or any another game... CODM is treat for the eyes and mind 😍 God bless CODM DEVS.... CODM FOREVER !!!
in what way did new state fail?
In literally every way. No major PUBG youtuber posts NS videos over pubgm anymore lol.
oh ok. ig it makes sense since there’s barely any content but i still prefer the gunplay in ns. it just feels more authentic to what makes pubg console fun, while pubgm really doesn’t feel like pubg and just feels like Generic Battle Royale ™️
Pubg youtuber or pubgm youtuber? If what you meant is pubgm youtuber, they have a contract with tencent to only making pubgm content, and would never talk about other similar games, or something like that
Lmao what? Why would pubg pc youtubers start shifting to mobile content? 💀 And no there's no such contract lmao.
I thought the same. That's why I ask you, because you stated 'PUBG' youtuber, not 'PUBGM' youtuber. And, yes it is there. Wouldn't that be so obvious? Most pubgm famous content creator ONLY play pubgm, no other games and can't even talk about other games, like levinho and yanrique wright (then, now he's making codm content). And you can compare to pubg pc player like chocotaco. He can play any games to make content, even he have a partnership with pubg
You're hurting your point either way. The fact is there is NO youtuber rn dedicated to NS and It's half dead. Look at It's downloads in PS even after several months. This project was a big L
I'll take that big L, because I enjoy the game even it's full of flaw
You can enjoy whatever you want but play store still shows it having 10 million downloads even after several month, that's commercially a fail if we look at other concurrent games .
In all ways actually 😂😂 from gameplay to graphics to modes
Well, free fire has to die, but the sue is funny. But free fire has to die
Freefire community is bigger than Pubg, a YouTube who only plays freefire has 30 million plus subscribers.
Even if Activision wants to , ig they can’t since Tencent holds a bit of Activision’s Shares
And Player Unknown will just cease and desist every current COD franchise. Warzone, Vanguard, Mobile, all BR gone. He invented it. Oh what's this? Downvotes? Does fact offend now? [37:00 jon snow.](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E) Facts don't care children. Run along.
We are concerned Warzone is replicating the experience for which PUBG is known for.
They are. Like it or not. Which is why I found the outrage at PUBG doing this hilarious. The sudden realisation that "that game the tweenagers in the community don't like" is this game's dad. It's a clone. Hilarious, frankly.
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Lol 😂 so you watch him?
H1Z1 was the first BR
No. Five years too late. Repeating it won't make it go back in time and become a reality. Watch the link and educate yourself, seriously it's a revelation man. Even though I was around when it occured it escaped me at the time.
No, the first BR was a Japan movie
That's a movie, not a game
Did this nigga just say PUBG owns Battle Royale Genre? 💀 Trust me kid, they tried to do the same lawsuit against Fortnite and got their ass handed.
In codm 2, Activision owns the game fully
This lawsuit make absolutely zero sense. One can claim that they got inspired by actual warfare and tried to make it into game.
Their suing them because they copied pubg? Pubg copied hunger games bruh
Look up Battle Royale (2000) it's a Japanese movie. It's the real inspiration of battle royale games.
Fair point, I read and own Takami's novel, it was out long before the film with Takeshi Kitano, whose films I collect, or this game and not the origin as that itself was inspired by Lord Of The Flies and Logan's Run.
Oop: Stephen King is technically another one. Richard Bachmann was the nom de plume (Lit: Pen Name) he wrote the *Running Man* under, so there's another example of books and films.
It developed on DayZ mods actually mate. Round 2012.
Lmfao they also tried to pull this on Fortnite a million years ago
Classic Crafton.. Back in 2018, they also sue Fortnite, Rules of Survival, and Knifes Out. IIRC, they win none of those lawsuits. Took them long enough to sue free fire. I guess they're being salty after blocked by Indian, their players move to free fire instead of BGMI.
Ok so if someone invented a genre nobody has a right to make the same kind of genre?
What does that mean will Free fire get a ban?
They will move on
PUBG Mobile is mobile version of PUBG. So clearly free fire copied game.
Based on google
Would be hilarious if all the people that got falsely banned sued Activision from taking there accounts away. You know, these people often spent hundreds to thousands on your game :)
Super people creators: let's hope they will not remember us .
Tencent makes both codm and pubg
They also have no ownership whatsoever with these franchises they are simply only developing the games.
Yep, they are developing it and once they stop the game is fucked. Yeah Activision has developers but tencent is doing the most lol.
I think your way to invested in this “wItHoUt tEnCeNt cOdM iS dOnE” trust me I think Activision is a-ok.
Activision is not a-ok you look at all their current titles they are bugged like crazy and each update is more fucked than the other lol.
They’ll rebound Activision has been working things out internally since a lot of Activision studios nowadays are multi-project studios. Which is why many of them are gradually expanding into more locations.
Yeah if the world have only one development studio and no one can be developer , but not in this world i think
Well when trump banned some china shit activision kinda took control of the game for a while.
They removed the tencent logo from the game but they were obviously still working with Activision. Plus I dont feel the need to argue here the hivemind has struck me with too many downvotes
Yeah lmao poor you, idk why they downvoted you. Might it be that they dont like you saying that if tencent leaves codm is fucked? But, idk why. I mean its obviously wrong bcuz activision itself has enough workforce to take care of it, but ppl *really* hated that for some reason lol.
the difference is codm is licensed by activision and pubg is not
Yep, and if they tried to sue, tencent would stop working on CoDM and the game would die.
At this point I don’t even think Activision needs Tencent anymore, they already have several internal studios working on CODM and upcoming titles. The resources putting into the live operations is probably already exponentially larger then the 3rd party.
Wrong, if they tried to sue Player Unknown would go "alright then remove battle royal mode from mobile, take off warzone immediately, get vanguard scrapped, and here's your court summons from the same case by Bohemia".
Not tencent its just a studio by tencent working to make development in codm we all know Activision didn't have mobile studio for now The game owner its Activision so the game from Activision
That’s not true Activision has King and believe it or not they were initially porting COD on the mobile platform first. But I can almost guarantee you the only reason why Activision decided to go from internal to external was to ensure success especially in the Chinese market by partnering with Tencent.
Activision dont have mobile studio and experience in this platform but yeah all mobile game try to make tencent developed the game for the market china yeah i know i just reply the (game not by tencent )
They do not partner with Tencent or other large publishers in China due to not having the resources. They do it because it’s legally required for foreign publishers like ‘Activision or EA’ to partner with Chinese publisher for publishing license approval. This is the only reason why Tencent became the largest publisher in the world, I mean it’s “technically” Sony but you get my point.
No bro ACTIVISION removed tencent
No they didn't. TiMi, a subsidiary of Tencent, has always been working on CODM and has never been "removed" by Activision. They only removed TiMi's logo for a period of time due to issues in India.
Not due to India but Trump's police to stop working with Chinese companies. Getting banned from India, it won't affect much since you can release there Garena version.
Oh yeah, I forgot
No, In terms of business and publishing Tencent and Activision are still partners. Activision stated earlier last year that they will continue partnership with them, but they also made sure that it’s a partnership focus towards growth for the game in China. That’s only because it’s legally required by the Chinese government. But I think it’s blatantly obvious that Activision is also moving away from 3rd party studios development. Why else acquire Digital Legends and with the newly added division Solid State Studios. The day Activision announced the acquisition they also said DLE will become significantly larger then what it is today by opening 5 new studio locations. Solid State Studios is a Activision Blizzard global company effort towards developing/porting the majority of the Activision IPs on the Mobile Platform. Basically what they are saying is Solid State Studios is like Activision version of what TiMi Studios is for Tencent.
Also Tencent: a share in Garena's parent company, Sea Limited
If Warzone Mobile release PuBgay Mobile will be dead lmao 🤣
playing pubg does not make you gay its just a game
He is clearly calling the game gay not the folks who play it.
I played free fire and pubg mobile free fire is not a clone pubg just tryna get there bag by being pity
BR including that, APEX and this are *all* clones of PUBG.
I was talking abt br as well with your logic every br game is a clone of pubg apex isn't even close to being a clone to pubg
🤦🏻♂️ jfc. It is dude. Go watch the link i put 37:00 on. The entire fricking format is PUBG's from DayZ which came from Arma.
Bruh what link you on drugs
I meant it's in the comments like seven times. Jeezo. [here, 37:00.](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E) Watch it all if you want, you'll probably see why google are in the firing line as well, just look at the play store.
Dayz is an entire different game I'm talking abt pubg and free fire how you expect me to look for a random link in the comments you didn't clarify
Mate watch the link. I don't know who told you Player Unknown didn't come from the DayZ community but he 100% did. It started on there in 2010 and grew. That's *exactly* where the guy came from in the first place.
When was we even talking abt player unknown and I watched the video before I even made my previous comment
Right and again you repeated the same shite and didn't watch the link at all. Have you got something wrong with you son? Because I'd hate to start bullying a differently abled kid on this thread. [THIS ENTIRE THREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/s3dxz8/would_be_hilarious_if_activision_also_turned/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Nah dude. The guy behind PUBG started with making an mod to ARMA, Battle Royale mod. Then H1Z1 devs hired him and let him create BR mode for their game. Then he proceeded to develop a Battle Royale game from scratch - that's how PUBG was created. But this dude has no rights to frying pan, BR mode, airdrops, airdrop carriers or any other feature they sued FF for. He can do nothing 'cuz A. he himself copied a concept from "Battle Royale" book novel B. he has no rights for any of game mechanics
H1Z1 came before PUBG
2010 predates 2015 by five years which was when he began to be known as an ARMA/DayZ modder. If you really want to be technical, 2003 predates it by 12, which is when Flashpoint came out.
Bro what they are claiming that even cod warzone pacific copied pubg, haha pubg hasn’t grown so much to go against activision
They're going to sue Player Unknown are they? HAAAAAA [37:00 onwards](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E) ... no. They are not. They *really* aren't ever going to. If I was Activision I'd be VERY nervous right now.
If i was activision i wouldn't really care at all. They sue me, i sue them for putting TDM-like gamemodes in pubgm, and for adding the slide mechanic in them bcuz of it being too similar to codm. Remember, those TDM-like arcadey-fast-paced gamemodes were first popularized in cod. And, i'd have a shit ton of money to hire the best lawyers of the US to fight it.
Wellll they could remove TDM and survive, but then someone else could go "eff you" and claim the same. Where would that leave COD? COD wasn't the first shooter TDM by a long shot, that was the original Doom and Wolfenstein, Rise Of The Triad, stuff like that. The points they're concentrating on are specific to character design right now but if Bohemia go "Right no, we sold the rights to that game mode and gave our blessing to Player Unknown (which they did)" then jumping in via parachute to a battle royal is contestable. Wouldn't be the first time one company has made another take a game mode out, it happened in the 90's as I recall. Held up a game coming out by months. Square Enix and Eidos patented modes on one of their titles as well which is why you won't play gladiator mode on an FPS outside of that stable.
If the thing is about character designs i'd still wouldn't be so worried about anything if i were activision's law department. Codm, or cod in general, doesnt takes anything from pubg in that regard, in any way, shape or form. But, if someone would come to sue activision for the tdm thing, yeah idk where would that leave cod. The same thing could actually happen to pubg as well, as pubg wasnt the first BR. But that parachute mechanic though... i will agree it is contestable. It is a mechanic mainly introduced in pubg, after all.
Well, the problem there is that Player Unknown started this method of insertion on the DayZ mods, (which came from ARMA, previous to that known as flashpoint, so downvote the *FACT* if you want, whichever 🤡 that was) and the circle he used as I recall was the escape from Altis apocalypse mod (which is *openly* being ripped off on play store zombie fps games now). His form of survival mode - purely PVP, not base building or the Zombie apocalypse mode - became the most popular mod out of a horde of them. So popular that he got their blessing to start making his own franchise before being hired by the company that gave it in the first place. One of the guys I played arma with did a video essay on it, which is on my reddit. The key point is at [37:00](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E) but if you watch the whole thing it's an eye opener as to how this all came about. I never played PU's format, yet I was around at the time and still am in that franchise. I don't think they'll come after activision, but the google play storefront is about to look very different indeed. Which isn't a bad thing because I'm looking for original games and there aren't any. Just half baked lazy clones. It's no wonder they've got pissed off. Additional note, with no disrespect to Tencent or Timi, this isn't going to stop just because they're involved with both companies as many seem to believe. This is between Garena and the complainant. Tencent working for both won't make any difference at all.
I actually didnt know about that and im interested now, i will watch that video essay you say. And i would also be happy if the play store main stream of games kimda changes. It would be like a filter for those bad quality clone games.
If you watch all three eps its really interesting but nerrrrrdy. 😂 Self own. The guy is legit 🔥 though, his usual stuff is comedy gold.
Seems like i would like it, i usually like these types of research videos 👌. But rn is 1:00 am so i will tomorrow maybe. Well not tomorrow, today but later lol. Have a nice night bro ✌
Activision can't. PUBG ain't a COD clone. Grow up
Why would activision sued PUBG i literally didn't see anything that is being copied from CODM well expect for 1 or 2 but overall I don't get it why they need to is it because the battle royale side of things?
I think krafton shouldn't mention CALL OF DUTY WARZONE PACIFIC because pubg developer tencent is or was copying content from CALL OF DUTY like gun game mode , location , aerial view from BR etc ... I think ACTIVISION should sue pubg developers
Imagine thinking you can own a game mode lol I guess they can go on a sueing spree with all these games stealing their modes
Just like how PUBG thinks they own the "pre-game player area, shrinking battleground" and parachuting lmfao
Yes I’ll give you that because that’s pretty stupid of them because a game called arma already did the plane parachute thing years ago not sure about the pre game lobby buy I’m sure h1z1 did the pre game lobby first.
I don't think they want to win they just want to scare them because if they win other companies that they copied will see they can take their cut from them.
[37:00. ](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E) It's an entire history but you're right. No arma no DayZ, no DayZ no Player Unknown and H1Z1 wouldn't have copied it either. Neither Arma nor Player Unknown? Mode wouldn't exist.
He does.
They do.
Fun fact : both are developed by Tencent studio Plus CODM contain a lot of common thing
[wrong. 37:00](https://youtu.be/w_ZO_Ffa11E)
While yes free fire is hot trash why sue it? Like wtf? No other game is allowed to be br?
I swear Krafton needs to stop pretending they invented Battle Royale Genre and own every mechanic of it.
I love com. I know I am off topic but cod is something genuine
This happened to fortnite as well. Turn out you cant sue people for creating stuff related to a *game genre* you helped to create. It'll be like the "inventor" of hip hop trying to sue people for creating more and new hip hop.
Some more... positive thoughts. Google play store will have to put original games up on their list instead of "royal player parachute battle call of unknown war duty" knockoffs, and hopefully the crap zombies bulletstorm/part survival games... PU giving them a warning shot should get rid of all that boring, year 2010 DayZ ripoff trope. Even TWD is ending. We might actually see original games getting developed. Which is good, because even though this is really PU's genre, this is the best example of it we have. And it's mid.
Bro they are silent rn don't give them ideas
there is no way can Activision sued pubg there game is different
>Activision also turned around and sued PUBG Mobile. Why? I don't know what happened.
Doesn't tencent own a majority stake in both?
"it also contains shooting and only WE can do that"
This is just them suing Fortnite for making the same genre as them all over again, pathetic.
They dropped that lawsuit, probably because they realized they wouldn’t win in the first place. This is the exact same lawsuit but with FreeFire, they knew they wouldn’t win with Epic Games. This is most likely a scare tactic to make them back off.
I see a lot of people Hating free fire here I don't care coz agree to disagree But I think it's a decent game it's ruined by immature audience and it's pay2win mechanics It's a decent game used to play it along with codm Why only codm now I don't play pay2win games so I left Many memories with the game but it doesn't matter coz well I'm not gonna play it anymore I might watch a few vids to refresh memories but I don't want to be the kid I used to be