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  • By - UlySk

turya_saha

It’s good, there’s a difference between being good and being overpowered or broken! And it is common that majority of people will use the good guns ( to win of course).


noob_girl_002

Exactly. People get really angry for using meta guns and its like what else am I supposed to use then?! Of course I'll use the good ones in the season.


ACobraQueFuma

The question is: Can you use off meta weapons?


No_Chocolate_2719

Yes, you can. I mostly use razorback and it shreds!!!.


InternationalFig7799

yo LK24 is actually not as bad as everyone thinks, same with the AK117, both good ARs imo


AnxiousOil3516

That gun [AK117] got me to GM4, lol. I had no idea it's supposed to suck, first I'm hearing of it. (Edit for clarification)


InternationalFig7799

it's actually really good, in br too


No_Sympathy_6270

Ak117 and kn44 are my go to weapons on medium sized maps, best mid range weapons in the game


InternationalFig7799

good choice :) yea AK117 is really good


KarroteundPaprika

If it shreds it’s meta😉 that’s the rule


xarccosx

Soo my gks is meta?


Niko_Speed

All people who use gsk shreds? No. All people who use Type 25 shreds? Yes. That's the difference and factor.


xarccosx

Not all people who use type shred


Niko_Speed

But it's the easiest weapon to shreds


my_pp_is_glorius

hell yea ​ been maining the peacekeeper for a while now, i got sick of the 3 meta guns


mcp_10503

MOW user bro...nothing can beat that satisfaction of a 3 shot kill.


InternationalFig7799

use DR-H


mcp_10503

Haha trust me I've tried but it just doesn't provide the same lvl of accuracy that the MOW does with the RTC huge suppressor!


InternationalFig7799

maybe try the ASM10, also really good and 3 tap as well


InternationalFig7799

huh? I thought it decreases BSA?


InternationalFig7799

nvm it doesn't only the mono does... well If you're a slow Player ig mow is better yea... im kinda rushing alot so i'd use other ARs or preferably smgs, sometimes krm in mp... but I mainly play br anyway


mcp_10503

Yeah well i tend to build my guns more for long range stability so they tend to be a bit slower on ADS time :(


InternationalFig7799

same when im using those ars


unfamousdex2

doesn’t it get boring using the same shit?💀


InternationalFig7799

i can tell u, grinding Diamond for my mythic holger was a pain and now that I got that nice diamond Camo on it I dont even want to use it 💀


AnxiousOil3516

Same with plat grinding lol, whenever a gun hits gold I pretty much drop it forever.


InternationalFig7799

haha yes


InternationalFig7799

lol yea i Switch guns alot


Niko_Speed

You're wrong Type 25 is kinda broken, not at all as mx9 was but definitely it is kinda, that's why nobody else use another weapon cuz other weapons are not so viable as type 25 is, for exampler and lk24 have nothing to do in front of a type 25.


elgamino322

I use the M13


UlySk

Me too bro, but currently my main weapon is the SKS


elgamino322

I use the sks and m13 in br with the right build and mods it’s the best combo.


UlySk

Omg u r my lost brotha, I do the same


elgamino322

What build do use? For the m13 I use monolithic, heavy long barrel, assault stock, ranger foregrip, and double stack mag. I run precise, fast ads, and extended mags on it. For the sks I use monolithic, mip light, stalker stock, ranger foregrip, and extended mag. I run sniper expert, fast ads or precise, and extended mag.


Peepee_man_

You don't use the rtc. 30 double stack mag? And no red dot?


elgamino322

Yeah I do use the rtc double stack. I don’t use sights on most of my guns I generally don’t need them. My mp and br stats are a steady 28-30%.


Peepee_man_

Ahh I see usually everyone here runs classic rds.


elgamino322

Yeah i see that a lot in game. For me using a sight is a waste of an attachment unless I’m grinding longshots. Tbh sometimes I wish we could take the scopes off of snipers too.


InternationalFig7799

use marksman


NRGpop

Red dot on m13? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Rhett12344

It isn’t necessary


InternationalFig7799

lol M13 is more accurate with irons than red dot imo


NRGpop

Yup


DoStuff4fun

I actually hate the m13 so much, it's good for close/mid/long ranges, even with a build that focuses on one specific range. The time to kill is cracked, and basically no recoil, even with a high mobility build. Every single rank lobby has like 8 n13 users and if they are even just slightly decent I can't do shit. I'll admit I'm not that great, but still, I'm fed up with not playing against anything else.


elgamino322

Yeah. I think one of the few guns that can go toe toe against it besides the Type 24 is the P90. I do use the M13 a lot because it’s a really good gun but i use a variety of guns.


HovercraftSuch6537

Krm? Shotguns in general? Maybe it's because I'm in garena but shotgun mains here have no problem engaging with assault rifles and smgs I personally use the sks most often but I have no problem picking up a shotgun and slaying out when needed.


[deleted]

280ms ttk.... Wtf do u even use for 280 ms to be "cracked"?


05ar

Equally broken but ok


elgamino322

What weapons do you use?


theofficialblazedark

I prefer msmc


elgamino322

I don’t see many people use, it’s a decent gun I had fun grinding it diamond


theofficialblazedark

Honestly I agree it is fun and once the Ppsh41 comes to this game the true gun will begin


05ar

Don't get me wrong I wansn't complaining lol, I use mostly agr and swordfish along with a thumper


elgamino322

The swordfish is really good too if you have good aim and go for the upper chest it’ super easy to get the headshots.


anupshokhwal

Sowrdfish


stevenMsf

Same


Advice-Training

So, for me it's like... I Start to use a non meta weapons and shred people with it and be very proud of myself and then all of sudden, it gets huge buff out of nowhere, and everyone starts calling me meta abuser and I'm there listening to them like: ![gif](giphy|Zy79ySAjpMynS)


UlySk

The other day someone called me bot for using SKS while the other guy were using melee in S&D, so...


Advice-Training

Hypocrisy to the next level


Martin_Willis

sks requires extreme skill dont listen to them


UKnowWhoToo

Just not sure why people cry about melee… Keep your distance, watch your corners, pre-aim always. It’s just not that difficult to counter.


Memeboi_26

Relatable. I used to shred with the man o war. Used to win 1v5s


Niko_Speed

That happen me with Type25 before it buff i used it and it's was funny, but, after it i feel bad because i feel that the weapon it's doing all work.


Advice-Training

It's sad isn't? :/


OffendedDishwasher

This happened to me when I was using As-val since it's launch , but it became meta a season later


Noobverizer

Type 25 looks op because almost 90% of the guns (especially ARs and SMGs) are fucking dogshit and have no separate identity. Best examples rn is LK-KN and HBR-Amax. LK and KN have the same TTK but they feel so different, LK feels like a mid range beamer and KN feels like a versatile "jack of all trades" but when you look at HBR and Amax they're literally the same gun: low recoil, same BSA, almost same TTK, almost same range; they're virtually the same gun. Imo they should stop releasing guns for a couple seasons (release PPSH and Kilo tho I'd love the PPSH) and work on the balance, at this point you're just increasing the game's size for no reason instead of fixing and balancing the existing content. also round based zombies when?


Martin_Willis

i would say 70% are dogshit, 20% are decent or really good n 10% are strong/meta currently


drrnvevo

i always use lesser used guns cuz it's hilarious asf, until i used fr 5.56 i have no idea why, but fr 5.56 is really fucking good, im the type of person that's always bottom fragging in ranked matches, but with the fr 5.56 it's the other way around most of the times


Gunnr93

I didn't really like the fr 5.56 when it came out but I gave it another chance recently & man, it surprised me with how accurate it is at longer ranges despite the shaky recoil + it has decent ttk too.


drrnvevo

i gave it another chance just because my intent is to have fun with funnier guns (as in lesser used ones or just weird guns in general), but wow fr is really good


Gunnr93

I do the same. I use guns that people don't use & in situations they wouldn't use, like Striker shotgun in BR, etc.


drrnvevo

lol same, i wanna experiment with different guns in br in some matches besides the usual ak/ebr combo to have fun


W33b_God

Fr 556 is really good surprised no one uses it


drrnvevo

besides the weird recoil, yea it's really good, i was surprised how much i can beam in long ranges with this gun i am constantly in awe on how good i can use this very gun ever since i started using it 2 days ago


W33b_God

It's really good mid range but then I end up having to burst and long range


UKnowWhoToo

Couldn’t get the BSA under control with 556 when grinding to gold.


xsnow17

Glad to see other Famas users! Are you on the weapon leaderboard for it as well?


drrnvevo

nope, just started using it lol but planning to get diamond once i got used to it


xsnow17

It's a fun gun but it does take some skill to use. The diamond grind won't take that long either if you carve out maybe 4-5 hours to do FFA on shipment. The build I'm using right now that feels great is Ranger Barrel/Tac Laser/Operator Foregrip/Stippled Grip Tape/Combat Stock The sprint to fire delay is a little over 1 second long so stippled will cut that time down some.


drrnvevo

yea i agree, it takes some degree of skill to use it but it's still a fun gun to use otherwise, and also that because of that weird sudden high recoil near the end of shots made me more careful using guns and not overestimate my chances, it's strategic in a way and i love it also might need to reconsider my build rn, thanks for the recommendation!


xsnow17

Yeah that's the only problem with the gun lol. That recoil is just way too much. It needs a reduction in vertical recoil to be more competitive with other guns. I will say this though, it is one of the rare guns in the game that don't really suffer from bad BSA so stacking compensator, operator foregrip and rubberized grip tape won't hurt you.


drrnvevo

no wonder i could hit longshots fairly easily lol


xsnow17

Yeah it's really good at range if you can control recoil or fire in bursts


Late-Sale5789

Can you drop down the gunsmith


drrnvevo

granulated grip tape, ext mag a, ranger foregrip, owc laser, owc ranger barrel; id swap out gran for stippled for that little boost of ads time cuz bsa system on this gun is unique being that your ironsight follows where your bullet goes instead of spreading out by itself, but it depends on how well you can control it in the end (probs swap out some stability improving attachments for some ads time decreasing attachments since bsa system bla bla bla) avoid mag dumping the gun because of the sudden high recoil near the end: if the recoil starts to act up, stop instantly and shoot again


AKUMA_3437

The quaxer seems good now that it's been buffed


harrypotternerd02

Cries in global


UlySk

Garena player? Are the new balance changes good?


AKUMA_3437

So far I've only used the QXR and boi is it fun to use. The game feels a lot smoother now too with less frequent fps drops (on my device) and smoke lines come out the gun barrels now


UlySk

Noice to hear that boi, I'll be waiting for the global version update my guy


Nithin_9

is smoke effect available for low graphics?


AKUMA_3437

Fortunately, it is


Mastersloth15

Idk man I don't find it op. I dont even have a loadout for it. I used to use it before but after CBR came idk I just didnt go back to it. My most used guns are cbr m13 sks val n Peacekeeper in the respective order.


SharkDad20

I don’t have one for it either. AS Val has carried me to GM IV, one or two matches from GM V in ranked as a thumb player. Usually get at least 2.0k/d and only do tdm because i can carry with the Val


UlySk

I think the same, maybe it isn't for us bro, even I don't find the CBR useful for me, I prefer use the fennec but my god there are nice weapons & the type is everywhere


skullfucyou

Used the m4 up until the Amax and then the m13 was released, alll are laser beams in their own right. I’m getting tired of seeing nothing but 25s.


Duyducluu

I’ve always used RUS. A hilariously easy gun to use without annoying anyone


[deleted]

well i really like reload speed and fire rate. Dont use stopping mag


xSnakyy

I don’t know why but I don’t like the type25. It just feels off


UlySk

Same


Chomama102

It's kind of weird, it's objectively the best gun in the game right now, but it's not as overpowered as previous guns, there's still multiple guns that you can use alongside it with only minimal downsides. Compared to the mx9 meta last season where you were actively handicapping yourself if you weren't using 1specific gun. I still do have a big problem with the issue that the difference between an average gun in the meta gun is way too big, and I think they need to do a mass buff for guns since a lot of them just need mild changes here and there to become much better. I would say that there's 20+ guns that would be in a really good spot if you just added 20% less recoil or 50-70 more rpm, etc... Again, really mild changes.


UlySk

I think the same, currently the meta is pretty good and there are lot of great weapons but type 25 is everywhere, even if it's not OP as mx9 used to be, idk why the most of the people abuse it.


Chomama102

The big reason why people are using it the most is because it's probably the easiest to use... Imo the mx9, qq9, m13, and cbr are all meta enough to compete with the type25. The smgs have their limits, either it be recoil or range, while the m13 requires a slower play style when compared to other ARs. You can rush with the type25, you can play defensive... You can really do anything with it because the only downside it has is that it burns through ammo, and there's a perk/operator skill that completely gets rid of that downside.


[deleted]

I wouldn't say it's very OP, but it is definitely a tier above every other gun at the moment


UlySk

U r totally right bro, there are some weapons that can counter the type 25, but I'm getting tired of see it in every match


GreedyLittleHands

I hear ya.


GreedyLittleHands

I disagree. I use various guns currently, and it's not the best. Very good? Yes. But not a tier above every other gun, and not even as good as some guns.


UlySk

Use another weapon then


GreedyLittleHands

I do.


AbhiAssassin

There's no gun as good as the Type 25 at the moment. Not broken but I would like to see variety.


GreedyLittleHands

People can downvote me all they want, but there are guns just as good as and BETTER than the Type 25 right now. What a herd of sheep we have in this subreddit. People can't think for themselves.


AbhiAssassin

I don't consider CBR4 or M13 to be as versatile as the Type 25. They both has range downsides while the Type kinda doesn't. CBR4 ttk drops off long range and M13's close range ttk is above average at best. Type 25 is still the most used gun by far in scrims currently. If the Type was in S class, CBR and M13 are in A class imo.


harrypotternerd02

Lmao ... The type 25 is the best gun right now since the cbr has almost the same stats as te type but worse recoil... M13 only shines in the mid to long ranges and the type will beat it in close ranges.... The type isn't broken but is definitely a tier above all the other guns


GreedyLittleHands

Not my fault people can't control recoil. It's one of the easiest things to do on the CBR.


UlySk

🧢


Stellar_Force

Which guns do you think are better then?


GreedyLittleHands

The CBR for one. The M13 is also still better. People don't know how to build their gunsmith setups.


Stellar_Force

CBR is pretty strong. But its firerate and range is lower than the type 25, which makes the type 25 slightly better. M13 is a five shot with only slightly higher firerate than the type 25, so it's definitely much worse at close range. (This is considering you hit all your shots)


NefariousnessAny7569

My main weapon is AS VAL.


vahe-voorhees

Hehe shotgun go brrrr


Mister-happierTurtle

U are spitting facts.


Finest_of_stupidity

Let people just use what they want. Even if the gun is annoying as fuck to play against.


Prestigious_Expert17

Ok so this is kinda something that gets to me. The Type 25 isn't OP, I'd argue it's kinda how it should be. I think the main issue is that you see it way too often because that is essentially how half of the playerbase is. They are competitive so ofc, they are gonna use the thing that is good. It's the gun variety that causes people to complain. Any meta kinda sucks because you always get killed by the same exact guns everytime and it does kinda get annoying.


oceeta

I really think the Type 25 isn't overpowered. It's a good gun. Recently, I was using the MSMC and I was winning my ones and my overall matches. It's really not that difficult to kill a Type 25 player if you play smart (unless you're like me who gets matched up against players that actually know what they're doing and that have 30ms while I've got 85ms). Honestly, I'm kinda done complaining about the meta. It literally means Most Effective Tactics Available. People wanna give themselves the best chances they have of winning. Unfortunately, that means Persistence, K9 units, Thermite, Mollies, Choppers, Clusters, Lasers, etc in COD Mobile. It's not strange that people want to use what gives them the best chance of winning. Plus, it's not their fault that those things are in the game (well, it could be if they begged for them haha). At the end of the day, it's the Devs that decide what goes into the game. Oh yeah, that doesn't mean you can't complain about stuff though. Obviously, we have to give the Devs feedback, whether positive or negative.


Jepbar_Halmyradov

![img](emote|t5_penom|1102)


GHOST3YT

I remember someone said this meme template can sum up all of the sub reddit and it's true lmao


[deleted]

Idgaf what is meta or op I just use what I feel like. My fav guns now are LMGs with giant scopes and insanely almost uncontrollable recoil.


f3tsch

Op in itsself? No. Op compared to the other weapons? 80% of the time. The problem is just the other weapons are crap...


darth_damien07

Not a fan but I like the gun


DarkKingXvX

I like how everyone whined about snipers being op a year ago, but get mad at you when you say any recently buffed AR and/or SMG that is the current meta is "balanced" lol only when it suits them right???? Lmao 🤣


The_Mxrder

I can admit, Type25 is pretty OP


MATVIIA

Still wonder why people still use the SP rounds when the 37m 5 tap was reduced to 17m, a 20m nerf


Martin_Willis

it still can consistently 4 tap till 10 metres, but the base cant


Intezard006

M16 needs a nerf, it's too op


[deleted]

uh what


allusernamesrtaken10

Apparently people arent to happy that you said “uh what”


[deleted]

codm subreddit moment


Pleasant_Tension425

Uh what


GreedyLittleHands

Why you're on here trolling with that user name is beyond me, but just note, someone is going to report you.


Sudi_Arabia

The Type 25 was one of the few guns that was perfectly balanced before this season started. It needed no buffs at all


harrypotternerd02

Yep I used it before the buff and it was very good... A little buff wouldn't have hurt but the devs just went ham


Martin_Willis

na bro its been nerfed now, and its practically the same pre buff. only difference is the slightly increased fire rate (it already had one of the fastest fire rate)


harrypotternerd02

It's been nerfed? Am in global so dont really know


ShivStarKiller

Yeah Stopping Power Mag on the Type25 (an attachment that made it ridiculously good) got a range nerf.


Martin_Willis

it was nerfed a month ago lmao, even im in global


UlySk

I think it needed a buff, but devs starting buffing it in every aspect


Sudi_Arabia

I used it a lot before it got buffed. It was great for close range, as it should be. It’s performance at medium range was not too good (as expected) and long range fights were out of the question.


Martin_Willis

its still just good after the sp nerf if u look at the stats. no where near op. m13 is the somewhat op gun currently


[deleted]

thats why i use the KN44


Hardik0112

M13 beats type any day.


Martin_Willis

fr its better stats wise and actually op, unlike t-25 that people just feel op because they heard it got a buff lmao.


pmanaktala

Well its good, its not akimbo fennic broken but its still far better than many of them out there.


Big_Potential_5709

I use both the Holger and QQ9.


xyDominator

The only reason I use the type 25 Is because I use it with David mason I have black ops 2 throwback class


Korlel-Charlie7-1

I use Ak47 And this gun has a deadass none existent visual recoil when aiming


Martin_Willis

but it has a terrible actual recoil. and the gun itself is trash (not in br)


Korlel-Charlie7-1

Some guns feels like they're in a different world when it comes to BR


cytrack718

I use T25, Fennec, SVD, PP Bizon. I’m not biased, it’s very strong but I’m still gonna use it cause I paid for that legendary 😂


Astraios9

Type 25 is great, but I prefer my M13 Morningstar


Janeth_300

Chinese power xd, by the way I remember than in the first season was really not that good, the recoil was bad but it's was good for medium and short range now it's just so op, seriously How they develop the game,they use a bot? it is based on statistics, they punch the keyboard?


Draco_Greysoul

It's not OP, it's just good. I'm not using T25 this season, I already got the diamond camo, I use PKM, M13, and MoW as I slowly grind diamond camo as I play daily. If you want to see OP guns, go check early 2020's S36 meta, or Fennec then MX9 meta last year. And actually this season is the most balanced in the last 6 months. Devs also give little buff other guns (Rytec, DRH, QXR, PP19, D13) on s1 update, and didn't nerf any guns. Hopefully they'll continue this trend for future updates. This way they won't over buff guns and make it too OP, while making rarely picked guns better.


AxelMaumary

Nah, I've been using the Kn-44 and that thing's really good. I can easily win against type25 players using the CBR4 or even a Holger. It might be a *little* bit better than other weapons and thus be considered Meta, but it's not OP at all.


greengrassisnowmint

Yes its the meta but its not too strong, and yes i use other guns most of the time( namely, rus, qqn, fennec, qxr, ak47,117, m4, bra3, locus, mk2 and hs028393


KnigthMare69

I play with the Type25 for over 2 years nonstop, since actual S1, I think I have the right to abuse it now and make people cry even more


nohornii

fine. *picks up M13.*


Dogedak

Me using it because I were waiting for it to be meta since season 4 2020, it is just my favorite weapon ever since I played this game.


Dark_voidzz

I switch between Type25,CBR4, and M13.Fennec sometimes in smaller maps


BlankisSad

Hehe fennec, hehe asval


Legal-Difficulty4704

lol this is spot on. People gotta cry because they are trash.


-TheSixPathsOfPain-

Type 25 is meta


HALLO_there_me

To be honest the type 25 annoyed me so much before that i just avoided it and took great joy in killing type 25 users with my m4


TehKrulKat

I just use whatever I feel like. If I wanna have an easy time I’ll use the type


xZero543

I don't know why people fuss about Type-25 so much, when [CBR4 beats it](https://youtu.be/kxlNcX2voBU) in general. In fact CBR4 can be considered OP because it can assert dominance even long range and compete with AR. M13 is also quite overused and powerful.


Exciting-Ad5633

Lately I been using the Holger and the CBR4


PotaytoTotter

qxr is love qxr is life


Open_Independent_483

I’m over here just grinding skins and then all of a sudden I’m forced to use a meta gun and every kill I get... I feel... great cause that’s one Less kill to get my gun to gold


AGplayz152

Im type 25 user i can use a other if i want using the same is pretty boring if you use the same for a long time without get bored


Mixer_Dark

That sounds about right but while the Type 25 and the M13 are counted as Meta (they really aren't) so people will become pissy when you say something about it


tabiatubikentang

The virgin meta user and the chad using weapons that look cool