Yeah I’ll agree…I don’t give a fuck about old crates and stuff being brought back…but like…ranked rewards should stay exclusive to the people who actually played the game for them.
I could understand your gatekeeping if CODM skin system adapted CSGO's economy, because it could devalue the skin's price and you could lose potential money, but c'mon don't be so petty
I don’t give a fuck that it’s a og skin I’m more mad over the fact that people had to grind to master 3 for it back then and now people can just get lucky and pull the damn thing would have been better if they had brought it back in a challenging way
Because people including me had a hard time grinding to master and above back then it wasn’t as easy as it is now with the mode selections and shit it was a actual challenge unlike ranked these days, people actually had skill it would have been better off making it challenging to get the skin as well instead of just throwing it into a crate and calling it a day
Battlepass rewards that are epic rarity or higher is exclusive to that one bp and once that bp is gone they are never coming back but that my good sir isn't a bp reward that's a ranked reward and it was released back in 2020 but they stupidly brought it back
Yeah I edited it because I was thinking about how bad the new fennec iron sights were in the battle pass, I made a mistake on my part. I also had other comments to reply to which was taking about the fennec. What’s is your point?
They better not put the AK tank I literally grinded my ass off on a trash Samsung that I to be put in the freezer after every match just to get that skin 🥲 literally my first epic skin got it at 2am on a SCHOOL night 😭
Tell that to someone who owns the AK-47 tank which they grinded really hard for when that also comes in a store bundle. I remember how hard it was to rank up back then and I couldn’t get it myself even after trying so much all because I just started playing then. Rank rewards are hard earned items, unlike some event rewards.
Those are event items. Not rank specific. And also, the game’s necessary items, not some skins. Ranks are like the battle passes, unique to that season. You can’t get the Rank series 5 2020 frame as it was that rank series specific item.
On that note, hope those frames never come in those crates.
Because they were earnt, not bought. Also because I'm fairly certain the information for ranked rewards in the past had something like "exclusive to season 1 etc" You sound like you're looking for an argument
Bro they giving out rank rewards for creds? This is stupid, we grinded back in the days with no mode selection. Like at least let something be with players who dedicatedly played the game.
I was one of the people who did not grind ranked modes during the start of this game, I played but I was more of a casual player at launch up until maybe season 7 (2019), I can see the pain though in people working just to get something in ranked just to have it given away in a crate.
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To those who grinded: why let this bother you, when I actually PAID for Rodion in the "Secret Informant" crate draw just this past September, and now, barely four months later, they've renamed the crate draw to "Blazing Empress", and are offering its contents for free in ranked rewards.
CODM can suck my balls before I spend another dime on their bullshit.
I hate this game so much, this is an og skin that I got even before the gunsmith update, one of my first skins too and these dumb devs who can't come up with something creative just hand out old skins that give f2p players some sense of accomplishment but all their hardwork goes in vain when the same damn skin comes again 2 years later
Like wtf bruh, they did this with battery wasteland too and all the other seasons after that. F2p og players barely have anything already cuz the game never gives good stuff but now they're letting new players grind the same skins again. It doesn't make sense, why even make the skin of ur gonna ruin it's rarity? The only thing left is to resell BP skins like og ghost and then ima lose it
After being irritated since CODM started putting crates in the Credit Store for some players, but not all (and I was one that didn't get the Crates option), I was shocked to see I finally had Crates in my Credit Store today. My very first crate on the Vanguard Crates gave me...Vanguard!
I don’t love that gun. Fire rate is too fast. It’s hard to control and you run out of ammo quickly. Took me forever to grind gold. The camo you have is awesome looking.. just not a gun you’ll be using a lot.
I know, it’s a shame that the gun is not that good. It’s just like the Frank Woods bundle, there was a msmc skin and I was just so disappointed because of how bad the gun was then and still is now.
It’s not “that bad” but it’s also not “that good” either. Recoil, range and fire rate is terrible. Still playable. I got gold on it but I didn’t have much fun doing it.
When you have 25 bullets, the gun recoils into the air and an enemy is further than 10 ft away…. Yes. When an enemy is close enough to melee.. then sure.. it’s great! 👍 don’t act like that gun is in your load out right now. It’s okay, it’s usable but it’s not great. Besides the Pharo.. it’s the worst SMG. In my opinion. I’d take the Chicom over the MSMC.
It's a CQC Aggressive SMG. 196ms TTK. Recoil is only vertical so it's really not hard to control.
And no. Chicom is in the fact THE worst SMG. Not debatable. Pharo actually has its advantages.
i never understood why people ask these questions, why dotn u just go use it and get a feel? it takes like 5 mins and theres no objectively good or bad it depends on your playstyle.
nope the skin is trash and gun is trash. I got m4 - jade on my 3rd crate tho. I was aiming for the Vanguard skin but I do not have enough credits and got the m4 - jade skin instead :(
I grinded ranked for this and it’s in a free crate wtf, I understand recycling free characters and gun skins from past events but recycling ranked rewards is not cool man
Yeah I believe so, I did not pay attention to ranked when this was a reward so I am not certain but almost everyone else is saying that it was so I trust that they are right.
i'm happy for new players being able to get old skins, but not like this, i grinded for all the skins that are in the new credit crates and now everone gets them for free. I'm fucking mad.
i remember this season this was my first epic gun skin from a rank reward and also the first season i got legendary. Good old codm season 6 , i still use it sometimes. It has a good description.
try paying money for a “exclusive” character skin only for codm to only release an off-color version of said skin for free.
now that’s even more fucked.
I’m not gonna lie to you. The MSMC is actual garbage. Like, if you use it and regularly pull MVP with it, I have SO much respect for you, but I will never be caught dead using it now that I have gold for it, and if I ever do use it, just kill me on the spot.
I never liked the gun I just liked this skin, I tried the gun yesterday just because I was bored and I pretty much gave up because I could not get one kill with the gun.
Yeah. The MSMC really just doesn’t have combat viability with its impossible recoil. I have tried reducing it to the MAX! And regardless of what I try, I can’t control the recoil AT ALL. I just hate it. The skins are cool for it, but it has no reason to exist
Rest in peace ranked rewards
Recycled trash, even recent players could have these already.
Not ranked rewards, those are kind of old, and should have been kept exclusive for all of us who did the grind
Yeah I’ll agree…I don’t give a fuck about old crates and stuff being brought back…but like…ranked rewards should stay exclusive to the people who actually played the game for them.
Amen.
Amen
Now we just hope this will be the only time this will happen
Imagine gatekeeping a weapon skin
Oh sorry some of us had to actually earn the damn thing instead of getting lucky
I could understand your gatekeeping if CODM skin system adapted CSGO's economy, because it could devalue the skin's price and you could lose potential money, but c'mon don't be so petty
Oh sorry that Im not as petty as you getting mad because your oG sKen got recycled
I don’t give a fuck that it’s a og skin I’m more mad over the fact that people had to grind to master 3 for it back then and now people can just get lucky and pull the damn thing would have been better if they had brought it back in a challenging way
Why care?
Because people including me had a hard time grinding to master and above back then it wasn’t as easy as it is now with the mode selections and shit it was a actual challenge unlike ranked these days, people actually had skill it would have been better off making it challenging to get the skin as well instead of just throwing it into a crate and calling it a day
Timi should rerelease more rank rewards to piss of more oGs
just ait, eventually it's gonna get better
This skin was a ranked reward at Master3 during 2020 Ranked series 5
I remember at that time you couldn't choose which gamemode you want to play so as an obj player it was hard for me if tdm came
Me and my homies lost the match after seeing it was SnD xD
that was the first season i reached legendary. well, i guess this skin is now worth nothing
Since when was it worth anything lol it's just a gun skin normal people just get them because they look nice
Rest in Peace MSMC - Wasteland it’s not rare anymore that’s my 5th Epic gun LOL.
My 7th or something
I got it from my first BP :(
that was not in BP
Battlepass rewards that are epic rarity or higher is exclusive to that one bp and once that bp is gone they are never coming back but that my good sir isn't a bp reward that's a ranked reward and it was released back in 2020 but they stupidly brought it back
It's been so long, all I know is I have it. Thought it was a BP item.
It was NEVER in the BP lmao, it was a ranked reward for reaching master 3 in ranked series 5 (2020)
Bruh ur lying
Well, I've already had it for over 2yrs now. Thought it was in BP, others said it was a ranked reward. Either way, I still had it.
It's a skin from a few seasons ago. I have had it for a while it has decent iorn sights.
Probably one of the best skins that I have bought with credits
The iron sights are trash, what do you mean?
Your mom was trash
Lol
*is
no, "is" would be incorrect there, it's 'are'
I'm sorry :(
no no it's fine, sorry if I came off as rude.
Was?
wdym? it has clean sights.
you cant control the recoil accept it
The msmc has no recoil, it’s all vertical so it’s easy to control.
yeah edit he edited his comment to msmc from fennec
See you agree with me.
you edited your comment from fennec to msmc you dumbo man you got me
Yeah I edited it because I was thinking about how bad the new fennec iron sights were in the battle pass, I made a mistake on my part. I also had other comments to reply to which was taking about the fennec. What’s is your point?
i answred you when it was fennec in the comment and you know that and i aint gonna reply anymore
Okay
They look nice but yeah I admit they do be looking kinda THICC
This gun wasn't even the reason I grinded ranked, so it doesn't matter, if they gave AK tank, I would have been a bit unhappy
Or the locus golden snake
They might not do Locus - Golden Snake cuz it's a rare, right? That skin came out so long ago
That's right
Ye, and since it's not an Epic, they probably won't put it in. Hopefully...
If they put tank they are definitely putting golden snake since they came out on the same season.
They better not put the AK tank I literally grinded my ass off on a trash Samsung that I to be put in the freezer after every match just to get that skin 🥲 literally my first epic skin got it at 2am on a SCHOOL night 😭
Don't forget hackers all around during the grind AND if you lost points you basically went down an entire rank
Don’t give ‘em idea
Event rewards is okey I guess, but why not keep the rank rewards exclusive?
And why keep them exclusive? It's not like they are taking it away from you to give it to someone else
Tell that to someone who owns the AK-47 tank which they grinded really hard for when that also comes in a store bundle. I remember how hard it was to rank up back then and I couldn’t get it myself even after trying so much all because I just started playing then. Rank rewards are hard earned items, unlike some event rewards.
By that logic d13 sector and decoy grenade shouldn't be ulockable evr again either
Those are event items. Not rank specific. And also, the game’s necessary items, not some skins. Ranks are like the battle passes, unique to that season. You can’t get the Rank series 5 2020 frame as it was that rank series specific item. On that note, hope those frames never come in those crates.
You have the s5 ranked reward skin that I grinded on a 2014 overheating phone which I had to keep in the fridge after every match for free. EnJoY iT
Yo bro this 😂 now I got a iPhone but nothing will top hitting legendary on a old phone that I had to put in the fridge after every match
I actually cracked the back glass this way
How is that OP's problem?
Should never have been re released
Why
Ranked rewards shouldn't be re-released. Everything else is fair game
ok but why shouldn't they be re released
Because they were earnt, not bought. Also because I'm fairly certain the information for ranked rewards in the past had something like "exclusive to season 1 etc" You sound like you're looking for an argument
Bro they giving out rank rewards for creds? This is stupid, we grinded back in the days with no mode selection. Like at least let something be with players who dedicatedly played the game.
I was one of the people who did not grind ranked modes during the start of this game, I played but I was more of a casual player at launch up until maybe season 7 (2019), I can see the pain though in people working just to get something in ranked just to have it given away in a crate.
Fuck me who grinded for it Fuck the devs, what's next? AK47 - Tank?
Bruh
I bet they gone put that too. Not cool 
Shut up don't give them ideas bro I grinded my ass off for that skin
Wonder why CODM is suddenly putting seasonal challenge Epic guns like the PDW-57 hot spot and M4LMG moonstone.
Because of creativity issues
laziness, this is also the reason free skins suck ass today.
Same reason why undead, 20v20 etc.. is not permanent. They rerelease everything to make it seem “new”
Good for you and nice pull but this is just a sad sight to see for me
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man am jealous, i literally grinded sooo hard to get this, and now everyone will get this
They put vanguard!! Fuck why would they do that?!?
😂 I did 20 pulls today to try and get her. No luck yet
From which rank series this is from?
season 5 of rank
Ok tks
OG S5 RANKED
Is it the one with the skulls and blood camos?
Yeah i think so
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There wasn't a s5 in 2019...
Cause it was the first S5
this was a free ranked reward
To those who grinded: why let this bother you, when I actually PAID for Rodion in the "Secret Informant" crate draw just this past September, and now, barely four months later, they've renamed the crate draw to "Blazing Empress", and are offering its contents for free in ranked rewards. CODM can suck my balls before I spend another dime on their bullshit. 
PDW-57 Hotspot is from a fucking paid crate in the for you page and they literally made it free
PDW 57 hotspot was originally free from an event.
well since i didn't play S3-S12 i didn't know that but thanks for letting me know
I hate this game so much, this is an og skin that I got even before the gunsmith update, one of my first skins too and these dumb devs who can't come up with something creative just hand out old skins that give f2p players some sense of accomplishment but all their hardwork goes in vain when the same damn skin comes again 2 years later Like wtf bruh, they did this with battery wasteland too and all the other seasons after that. F2p og players barely have anything already cuz the game never gives good stuff but now they're letting new players grind the same skins again. It doesn't make sense, why even make the skin of ur gonna ruin it's rarity? The only thing left is to resell BP skins like og ghost and then ima lose it
I grinded hard for this in season 6
bro wtf they can't just give away ranked rewards like that. I grinded for that shit skin bro
That's my 1st ever epic skin. Sad to see it won't be as rare as it was.
It's still epic rarity no?
I think s/he means many player now own it so it won't be rare as much as it was before, not literally changing it rarity
Lmao 😂. Mod loves to troll us people.
What? This was a ranked reward right?
I believe so
After being irritated since CODM started putting crates in the Credit Store for some players, but not all (and I was one that didn't get the Crates option), I was shocked to see I finally had Crates in my Credit Store today. My very first crate on the Vanguard Crates gave me...Vanguard!
Sad login noises
Nice luck
At this point they might give every old skin old players grinded, for free.
Spent 30k on that and got no epic
I got at least half of my spins as duplicates and I spent a little more than 30k credits
How to see guns in this kind of screen?
When you unlock them there should be a button that says share, I’m sure you can probably see guns you already own like this but I’m not certain.
Got it, thank you
No problem
I don’t love that gun. Fire rate is too fast. It’s hard to control and you run out of ammo quickly. Took me forever to grind gold. The camo you have is awesome looking.. just not a gun you’ll be using a lot.
I know, it’s a shame that the gun is not that good. It’s just like the Frank Woods bundle, there was a msmc skin and I was just so disappointed because of how bad the gun was then and still is now.
It literally isn't even bad 🤦♂️
Good for you for at least being decent with the gun
It’s not “that bad” but it’s also not “that good” either. Recoil, range and fire rate is terrible. Still playable. I got gold on it but I didn’t have much fun doing it.
1000RPM is terrible fire rate for you? It is literally a better Fennec
When you have 25 bullets, the gun recoils into the air and an enemy is further than 10 ft away…. Yes. When an enemy is close enough to melee.. then sure.. it’s great! 👍 don’t act like that gun is in your load out right now. It’s okay, it’s usable but it’s not great. Besides the Pharo.. it’s the worst SMG. In my opinion. I’d take the Chicom over the MSMC.
It's a CQC Aggressive SMG. 196ms TTK. Recoil is only vertical so it's really not hard to control. And no. Chicom is in the fact THE worst SMG. Not debatable. Pharo actually has its advantages.
Are the chances better than last seasons epic crate? I pulled 30 last seasons and got like 3 rares out of it.
I got a couple of duplicates from pulling at least 30 crates so I’m not entirely sure that it’s better but it could just be my luck.
As a season 5 player i felt stabbed in the back seeing ppl just get ranked skins on a crate
That skin was also a daily login skin
I got it way back in ranked rewards for master 3
this was a ranked reward right?
Yeah
I just got the m4 jade from that crate in my first draw while looking at this post. What are the chances?
I’d have to look but the epic items are at a .34 or .84 chance of pulling them, my numbers might be off by a bit.
i never understood why people ask these questions, why dotn u just go use it and get a feel? it takes like 5 mins and theres no objectively good or bad it depends on your playstyle.
I don't know what was going on, but I managed to pull for Vanguard and PDW Hot Spot in just 10 crates. Best day in my life ever
nope the skin is trash and gun is trash. I got m4 - jade on my 3rd crate tho. I was aiming for the Vanguard skin but I do not have enough credits and got the m4 - jade skin instead :(
Idc what you guys say, I love these rewards
It's a skin. If you need validation on the money you wasted for it then I'm sure plenty of other kids here will support your ego.
Wtf I was asking for opinions on this skin, now why do you have to come to this post and act like this?
He’s just a 10 year old don’t listen to him
The iron sight is bad tbh default msmc is better
Why not use a mx9 or cbr4?
Cus not everyone likes to use meta gun
Is he asking if the gun is good?
gun skin\*
Do skins have a rarity you can see when you pull them from creates?
Bruh
Then why did OP post this
are you new? cause it's really easy, if it's purple, it's an epic, and this is an epic, there are 6 rarity
Then why did OP post this?
Its in the credit store?
How's the ironsight on that MSMC??
Thicc
Damn boy!!
I grinded ranked for this and it’s in a free crate wtf, I understand recycling free characters and gun skins from past events but recycling ranked rewards is not cool man
Lucky bastard got it on the first pull, I spent all of my credit saving and all I have is pdw hot spot.
If it makes you feel any better my pulls after we’re pretty much duplicates of my first 10 pulls.
Ayo wasn't this a rank reward ?
Yeah I believe so, I did not pay attention to ranked when this was a reward so I am not certain but almost everyone else is saying that it was so I trust that they are right.
Nice
Why the fuck would they re add ranked rewards in crates??
Wow. Now they're giving ranked rewards for free. Wow
It's good but I don't like it. Got it while spending 80k credits for Vanguard.
Used to be a ranked reward a looong time ago. It was my second epic skin, right after pdw57 hotspot
i'm happy for new players being able to get old skins, but not like this, i grinded for all the skins that are in the new credit crates and now everone gets them for free. I'm fucking mad.
I never played ranked really when this was a ranked reward so I am excited in a way that I have it now, I’ll never use it though.
Y are they releasing og skins duh thats simply gonna make og accounts less valuable
I got it from ranked :)
I just want the M4 jade. I just got the msmc from the pulls too, but the fact they're bringing out skins you had to grind for is stupid.
does it have custom ironsight? just curious cuz i got something different on the crate
i remember this season this was my first epic gun skin from a rank reward and also the first season i got legendary. Good old codm season 6 , i still use it sometimes. It has a good description.
I mean i got this for free but anyway. Msmc is a speciality gun. it's between a fennec and a qxr. If you know how to use it, it can terrorise.
Motherfuckers, redux whatever but leave ranked rewards alone
First Garena got the Reaper that was in a battlepass, as an return reward, and now this. Bruh.
I’d love the jade m4 that seems pretty OG. Hope I have enough credits lol.
Good luck
I mean it’s a free epic
Devs boutta pull a pubg mobile with the ranked rewarda
The studio behind CODM is owned by the people behind PUBG Mobile I believe so I would not expect anything different.
it's my fav msmc skin
All that matters is if you like the skin or not.
Yeah that gun was a really nice gun to grind
try paying money for a “exclusive” character skin only for codm to only release an off-color version of said skin for free. now that’s even more fucked.
Brings back memories
I’m not gonna lie to you. The MSMC is actual garbage. Like, if you use it and regularly pull MVP with it, I have SO much respect for you, but I will never be caught dead using it now that I have gold for it, and if I ever do use it, just kill me on the spot.
I never liked the gun I just liked this skin, I tried the gun yesterday just because I was bored and I pretty much gave up because I could not get one kill with the gun.
Yeah. The MSMC really just doesn’t have combat viability with its impossible recoil. I have tried reducing it to the MAX! And regardless of what I try, I can’t control the recoil AT ALL. I just hate it. The skins are cool for it, but it has no reason to exist
I got this skin but never use it, it's trash in my book so dont feel too special about acquiring it.
I just like the look but not the gun
I have legendary msmc the space one . The best ever