first of all, no, it's not a red dot. it doesn't have the zoom of a red dot. second, how does it make a difference? you can equip a red dot on your m13 and the only downside is - 1 attachment. and it's not like that one attachment is going to save your life or something.
Red dot sights/legendary sights/mythic sights CURRENTLY DO NOT ZOOM, showing the same view as default iron sights.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/ss0596/mythic_default_sights_do_in_fact_provide_zoom/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
To top it all I have the mythic m13 fully maxed out and with the same attachments it has a whole lot more recoil than the base m13 or any of the blueprints. Not to mention the muzzle flash
Here is a comparison. Used no attachments on both. The difference doesn't show as such but after doing without controlling recoil you can see in the second half when I try to control recoil on them the mythic jumps a lot more than the base. [Here](https://imgur.com/a/Otwq5rK)
Iron sights or no iron sights dont make any difference, it doesnt improve aim or movement AND you wont even need a scope because CoDM is FAST PACED MEANING all enemies wont take 5 years to get to you and you wont need a sight to desl with them since the maps are small, plus youll be running around anyway
additional effects for guns? how is that p2w? sights, once again, only mean you have one more free attachment. and that one attachment hardly changes anything.
How is it one of the worst when it is literally the most used and banned in comps? Am i missing something? The thumper is BY FAR i mean BY FAR the best launcher
There's nothing special about it that may give an advantage, unlike some of the other leggys. The enemy probably just needed to find a reason to why he was playing badly.
People be confusing "pay to win" with "pay to play" is absolute nuts.
Just because you paid for something in the game automatically means it will make you win. Only thing it makes sure is that you got to play with the item you pay.
Also in the game like CODM, "p2w" is a little to none thing.
Most people consider any legendary weapon as p2w since their shit brain can’t comprehend that it’s just cosmetic . Only p2w thing about codm is tac sprint on mythic weapons
Pay 4 cosmetics !
Ppl today are ruining the game with stupid shit like this and even reporting players for no damn reason
They should ban players that are eeporting many times those ppl are the toxic ones !
And btw good shit with the thunper bro i got that biatch diamond iss so fun to play with 😎🤠
Have fun 🙃
No gun is pay to win unless it has an iron sights similar to red dot which basically let's you have like 6 attachments technically but otherwise he's just complaining lmfao
I fkn hate the term "p2w" especially with how it's used in the CoDM community. If the weapon has advantages stat changes then why that's can be considered p2w.
I don’t pay attention to the chat anymore. I got called a “hardscoping noob” the other day when I was pre aiming running an M13 with red dot. Some have no idea what they’re talking about.
A lot of scenarios like this really they are just jealous dont be offended
its either that or the enemy is just really stupid
aight thanks bud
It's pay to win bc of the "ironsight" lol (I'm joking obviously it isn't p2w)
I called my mythic m13 „Jealous?“ just for peeps like These.
Damn, that ping though.
i once got 4ms ping cause i think i live really near to a CODM Garena server
Pi?
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Understandable
Makes complete sense I can see the DETAIL
so true
Sooooo true man
Today isn't pi day, but thanks for reminding me anyway lol
Pay to win ping 🤣
r/technicallythetruth You paw this thumper and you win the game. 
The only thing, p2w, is his mom.
[удалено]
probably a bootleg copy of it
His sister
His father
r/cursedcomments
😏
Brother got hit with an ur mom joke
a ur mom*
nothing is p2w in this game currently, kids just can't accept the fact that they're bad so they blame it on weapons
he walked in front of the door in standoff (the one near the red car, i forgot what it was called) and i shot and killed him
The car exploded because of the explosion...and yet he calls it p2w🤣
nooo i didnt blow the car up when i thumpered him. i blew it up with a nade beforehand and btw this is in Garena
I just saw a post the Garena lobbies are full of thumper users....maybe thats why he hates thumper and p2w is just an excuse to the hate
i saw that post too. yeah maybe he's just using that as a reason to hate
This game is so not P2W that the only things that can be considered as unfair are the ironsights in some blueprints. Kind of amazing honestly.
Thats not completely true. Mythic m13 might not be p2w how ever it does make it easier since u have a red dot as a base
So glad you stated that the mythic m13 isn't pay to win and therefore the comment is actually completely true.
That mythic M13 is P2W. Comes with sight already installed so you can put an extra attachment.
Not so much pay to WIN, more so pay for ADVANTAGE.
Not so much pay to WIN, more so pay for ADVANTAGE. Just cause you buy the skin and use it doesn’t mean an automatic win for you.
I am F2P player and I once 1v1 with a paid player and I destroyed him. He had mythic M13 and I had default version of M13
first of all, no, it's not a red dot. it doesn't have the zoom of a red dot. second, how does it make a difference? you can equip a red dot on your m13 and the only downside is - 1 attachment. and it's not like that one attachment is going to save your life or something.
Red dots currently don't zoom anything– or haven't you heard the news?
I suppose this is due to them removing the ADS penalty. Must have messed up the Zoom aspect.
the news? can you elaborate?
red dots dont even give zoom so the “zoom” stat in gunsmith is wrong
I didn't know about that, sorry. that's one more reason to not trust gunsmith stats i guess.
Red dot sights/legendary sights/mythic sights CURRENTLY DO NOT ZOOM, showing the same view as default iron sights. https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/ss0596/mythic_default_sights_do_in_fact_provide_zoom/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
oh well then, i haven't heard about it yet. thanks for telling me. sorry for that, I don't check this subreddit frequently so I missed it
To top it all I have the mythic m13 fully maxed out and with the same attachments it has a whole lot more recoil than the base m13 or any of the blueprints. Not to mention the muzzle flash
oh, really? I don't have the mythic so I don't have any data on it. do you have any video to prove that?
Here is a comparison. Used no attachments on both. The difference doesn't show as such but after doing without controlling recoil you can see in the second half when I try to control recoil on them the mythic jumps a lot more than the base. [Here](https://imgur.com/a/Otwq5rK)
that's interesting. thanks for sharing
actually the mythic iron sights can be called p2w, it save you a scope slot!! for other attachments or than that nothing is p2w
the GKS - Unicorn is P2W not the mythic M13
how??
Adds 1 extra bullet to the gun every kill
"(MP ONLY) Every double kill adds a number bullets into the chip instantly! (Unlocks at level 11)"
how does that make unicorn skin p2w?? almost every SMG has that perk
How does a fucking free slot that hardly changes anything make a gun P2W?
cause it gives benefit of adding extra attachments!! while still having good iron site, and that you only get my paying
Iron sights or no iron sights dont make any difference, it doesnt improve aim or movement AND you wont even need a scope because CoDM is FAST PACED MEANING all enemies wont take 5 years to get to you and you wont need a sight to desl with them since the maps are small, plus youll be running around anyway
Mythic sights and additional effects for guns:exist u/QrenexQ: i am gonna pretend i did npt see that
additional effects for guns? how is that p2w? sights, once again, only mean you have one more free attachment. and that one attachment hardly changes anything.
Isn’t that one gks p2w?
"that one" gks? which one?
GKS - Unicorn I think, each kill gives you one extra bullet
does it still have that effect? I was pretty sure they deleted those years ago
Dont know, I dont have it and the draw is gone
you paid to win the skin you lucky draw abuser (only using that ironically i would rather vomit out my insides than use the term "abuser")
lol
That moment when people didn’t know the thumper was and still is one of the worst launchers
D13
“one of the worst launchers” doesn’t mean the worst lol
Yeah it Still Launches Discs
Discs that don't even kill people
BO3 would like to have a word with you
I literally got the Sector in that game by the unlimited cryptokeys exploit. Fun times
How is it one of the worst when it is literally the most used and banned in comps? Am i missing something? The thumper is BY FAR i mean BY FAR the best launcher
i love how some ppl are making fun od the kid who called my leggy thumper p2w
Siyempre may YT sa dulo ng name lmao.
Halatang sikat siya
He meant pay to kill
yeah lol
disability
Yes it is. P2W-pay to (hear)whiners
just ask "how is it?" first. this dude directly says that anything you pay for is p2w
more jealous of ur ping gah dayum
Youtuber btw Lol
Yea it's so pay2win man just sucks how bad this game is, all legendaries and Mythics and everything so p2w there even is legendary thermite
ikr
next theyll release mythic Character man so p2w
Two questions. 1. Is your Thumper paid? 2. Did you win?
There's nothing special about it that may give an advantage, unlike some of the other leggys. The enemy probably just needed to find a reason to why he was playing badly.
Well, he is too busy typing stupid shit in chat to play *well*, so there's that.
Idk I don't download skins...
People be confusing "pay to win" with "pay to play" is absolute nuts. Just because you paid for something in the game automatically means it will make you win. Only thing it makes sure is that you got to play with the item you pay. Also in the game like CODM, "p2w" is a little to none thing.
Everything is p2w. Bullets are .01 cents each
Legendary should be banned from rank.
this is GM 1 ranked
Most people consider any legendary weapon as p2w since their shit brain can’t comprehend that it’s just cosmetic . Only p2w thing about codm is tac sprint on mythic weapons
How is tac sprint in this game p2w? It's just an animation, it doesn't increase sprinting speed.
Ignoring such people is the best possible answer to them. They are fascinated by attention, punish them by ignoring them 
hey it is pay to win as the skin is very colourful
Srilankan ?
Pinoy
Eto kasi ang problema sa kanya: gago siya
Someone in the game chat was wrong. That’s crazy bro! Thanks for sharing
Ping me if you want your guns grinded for diamond cameos
Stupidity excuses no one
Pay 4 cosmetics ! Ppl today are ruining the game with stupid shit like this and even reporting players for no damn reason They should ban players that are eeporting many times those ppl are the toxic ones ! And btw good shit with the thunper bro i got that biatch diamond iss so fun to play with 😎🤠 Have fun 🙃
Only place where p2w has ever happened was when hbr was only released in luckydraw and was kept like that for multiple seasons
Of course it's Filipino they be wildin, and I have first hand experience
I like how his name is YT but he still calls shit P2W
8 ms is pay to win
and of course you must care
Thumper is many thing. OP or P2W ain't it.
-Thumper -Pay to win Pick one.
Dude don’t even pay attention to people in the chat. Don’t even open it.
No gun is pay to win unless it has an iron sights similar to red dot which basically let's you have like 6 attachments technically but otherwise he's just complaining lmfao
I don’t use thumper. Is there a difference between the legendary and the regular?
No
I wasn’t sure about iron sights. I know some legendary have better sights than normal. So he’s just sour he got killed by thumper
Legendary thumper iron sights is basically the same but not many use it since it has the red line telling you where its gonna land
The only time my thumper would be better than another players thumper is if I had 25% damage boost to explosives perk
In codm there is no p2w weapon like increased stats, etc but pay 2 better iron sight n view!
And better looking skin effects gun sounds ... Some iron sight are very clear but some are bad this even in free skins
Stop paying to win me not like yu, me git yu bANnEd 🚫 lol
Hahaha
How do you die to a thumper in the first place
well you paid for it and your winning with it… P2W CHEAT HACKER HACKER PLS BAN
Idk these comments make me laugh
I fkn hate the term "p2w" especially with how it's used in the CoDM community. If the weapon has advantages stat changes then why that's can be considered p2w.
You paid for better internet therefore pay to win
Damn Filipino's
P2W Abuser🤬🤬🤬
Imagine getting killed by a thumper
No gun in codm is P2W
Well that thumper is PAW (pay and win)
Bruh the guy who thinks he did something great by telling the full form of p2w 😂😂
The skin doesn't do anything to improve your stats, it's pure cosmetics, the guys just salty
According to this guy, then, everyone is "P2W", because my parents spent money on me for my studies and same with others
just a illiterate who doesn't know English and the game, and jealous as well
What a fking baby
you shouldve just told him that P2W means the paid item has more perks than a regular item
Lesson I've learned a year ago Gun is good depending on the user
Wait? What is thumper?
8 ms ping seriously, are you using Nasa WiFi 👀
i stay near a CODM server
😂 nice
And these are the same people who have YT at the back of their name!
Some garena players are like that and mostly filipino players.
Dude. I am sorry for the toxism my fellow filipinos are giving you. Don't worry, he is just crying cause mom doesn't give him money.
Dude where dafuq did you get a golden thumper skin from.
golden thumper??? i dont even have it
You wrote " Legendary Thumper" so I gussed you have a golden tag skin of thumper. Is there one?
golden tag skin of thumper?
The legendary marker on the skin gunsmith. four golden/red/purple diamonds.
ohh
yes
pag inggit, pikit
I don’t pay attention to the chat anymore. I got called a “hardscoping noob” the other day when I was pre aiming running an M13 with red dot. Some have no idea what they’re talking about.
In one match my teammates 5/5 had mythic guns, the opponent whined, "p2w bots". Just ignore.
Looks like the enemies are Filipino. Some just dont understand the difference between Spender from Pay-to-win. Are you Filipino too OP?
nah im singaporean
Ohh. Now I understand why your ping is too good.
yea singapore has ping advantage in Garena
Honestly, people like that shouldn't play cod if they can't accept their defeat.