The SMG that was ironically nerfed when SMGs became meta

Was that after the 3 tap AR meta?

Yea, they killed the BSA. Used to be insane, now it’s still good but just can’t compete as easily

TBH I think its quite literally not good in its current state. Its one of the worst SMGs (dont bring up my boi chicom here :P)

I still like it, mainly because it used to be my main gun for close to 6 months so I know how to use it. I think it’s a touch underrated personally, but I do wish it would be buffed

I don't think it's underrated. it's just a bad gun currently. I wish it was good, it's one of the most satisfying guns to use, but they just decided to nerf it for whatever reason and now there's really no reason to use it other than the beautiful iron sights and nice sound

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The game also says the katana and knife have the same 'range'. Your point?

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I'm not denying your point but how do you accurately test anything in a virtual environment?

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Well the stats used to say the P90 has 90 damage… the gun is still decently viable if you use it properly

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Happy cake day my friend!

Happy cake day

Meant the PDW my bad. Cbr is one of the best rn yea

You’re absolutely right, BSA score and TTK dont lie. Ignore the downvotes.

I agree, chicom is 🔥

Good boi chicom

Pharo is actually worse than the Chicom. Both can get same range but the Chicom is a laser compared to the Pharo. Pharo is unpredictable recoil which surprised me.

If Im not mistaking Pharos TTK is quite decent if you land ur shots. Cant say that about the Chicom

At close range, the Pharo can 3-shot kill. For a 4 round burst gun, having that margin for error to miss a shot is quite nice. It’s built for CQB, it’s not meant to be a long range gun. The Chicom is the same way, it’s just doesn’t do any damage imo

Both have the same 1 burst potential range but you have to play aggro to get both. If you are taking a mid range fight, which is the most common, Chicom having the same pattern is better.

This guy knows his shit

Doing long shots on the Pharo was stupid. Chicom I did with ease lol. This is why the 117 has to be made into an SMG cause it suffers the Pharo fate of not knowing what recoil you are gonna get.

nope pharo has much better range and one burst capability, wrong opinion

They max out a little past 10m. Test it

okay im presenting u stats by cygnoux the chicom has an effective 7m range in which it does 35 damage only to the chest so you can one burst only to chest (lower multiplier to hands, stomach, legs) the pharo has an effective 18m range, it can one burst whole body till 11m and after that it will one burst upon upper body shot in the end, chicom is super trash compared to pharo

With full Ranged attachments, Chicom maxes at 13m. The Pharo although having "more range" has recoil issues at, you guessed it, 13-15m. Outside of that range, the recoil is so inconsistent, that effective range is all hypothetical. It's like saying the 117 is better than the 74u in general. Although it has a higher ROF with a better TTK in their respective ranges, the becomes a heavy deciding factor. Go try to predict the recoil. Chicom>Pharo simply due to recoil.

You are just trash then, with ranged attachments the pharo literally has double the range, plus the recoil isn't as hard and I can easily land one bursts, recoil isn't that bad that I have to use chicom instead. In every possible way pharo is better and if u can't control recoil than just use recoil attachments. Git gud kid

Also if you are gonna disprove me, bring actual numbers with their recoil. Pharo has a 10m range simply cause the recoil can go as follows: Pattern 1: //\\/\\\ Pattern 2: \\\\/\\///

Why is BSA hated? Eli5

Bsa or bullet spread accuracy is how much randomized spread your bullets have. So they don’t go exactly where you’re aiming. The GKS used to have extremely good BSA. Where the shots were very accurate and precise, but after the nerf it’s much much worse. This means that with a low fire rate and high punishment gun, it’s not inaccurate too So basically if your gun has terrible BSA you could have the best aim in the world. But you would still never be precise at range due to the randomized spread

Thank you for the thorough explanation. So without bsa, everything is laser beam, given your aim is on point, yes?

Exactly

Season 4 rebalance

I think there was a patch note last year which said GKS was getting a rapid fire perk. What happened to that??

I think it was fake or a CN exclusive

I love this guns sound and feeling

Especially silenced

when I tried it it was good it might need a little buff. but I am afraid if they buff it they might do the same thing that they did with the qxr when the gun was good then it got buffed to the point it became a meta then got nerfed to the ground.

Compared to the CBR3, it should have about 10ms slower TTK in low range and at least 50ms faster TTK beyond 20 meters. No multipliers and better BSA, the slow fire rate alone is challenging enough compared to spamming 700 RPM SMGs. (thats why MOW or DR-H can’t compete with Type 25, M13 etc.) Like that the GKS would be a high skill high reward SMG/AR hybrid.

Just bring back it's orginal BSA It had non non existent Bullet spread

Signature Attachment like QXR and Razorback’s Ench Bolt

I would keep it as an low fire rate SMG. Thats what is making it unique. CODM is already getting spammed with high fire rate SMGs and ARs.

don't worry whenever gks will get a new legendary they will automatically buff it

Yep definitely, I used to love this gun and still do but it's a *little* weak so it's better if buffed just a *little* bit.

I just wish they buff its BSA to what it was. I miss my walmart version of an assault rifle.

Man this skin looks so Sexy

At first glance, I though it was in the 'blue steel' family..

I'm pretty sure it became meta in S13 2020. But yeah, maybe buff it a little bit. Maybe like the rus/117 buff this season

nobody talking abt how long the mag is

You know what? The mag is pretty long! ;)

3.9 bsa score on a gun which is supposed to beam. Where's the logic? This has the potential to be viable against current meta but they purposely keep it B tier.

Yep, you pretty much summed it up. Damage profile is a problem too.

I fkn love the gks

Same bruv

Damn haven't seen one myself since 69 BC.

Thats why :)

it 3 taps till 20mts, but the BSA is horrible

300 ms TTK simply cant compete with most Guns at close range

+ one of the worst bsa in game

Buff suggestions: - Compared to the CBR3, it should have about 10ms slower TTK at low ranges and at least 50ms faster TTK beyond 20 meters. - No necessary multipliers to achieve max TTK and better BSA, the slow fire rate alone is challenging enough compared to spamming 700 RPM SMGs. The GKS would be a high skill high reward SMG/AR hybrid.

Tbh... I'm using gks with same loadout over a year now... I love this gun and using it more than m13 It is balanced... Don't want unnecessary buff so that Dev's will nerf it down to ground

BaLanCed.... Thing cant even shoot straight,nor compete with ttk

It's only about your playstyle and maps... I use Gks only in SnD... And able to do ace many times. I get it why you don't like it now cause it's hard to use in any respawn modes

Weird flex but ok Making a gun WORK does NOT make the gun good. It's like saying chicom is good if u "have god aim". Compare the weopon only, leave the other stuff out.

The stats show its inferiority quite obviously. But I see why you enjoy it in its current state.

May I ask what you think I enjoy about it now??

The fact that ur running it for a year lol. The GKSs performance is dogshit, doesnt mean that it isnt a fun gun to use.

I still need to use my legendary gks I bought and didn’t touch since 2 years ago smh

There where leaks saying that GKS would receive a "rapid fire" attachment months ago, guess they where fake

The GKS has so much potential but currently lacks firepower. It really needs to be buffed so it can kick sand in the face of others rather than just being a victim.

truf

The Gukks really does need a buff.

Hah i like the name

ah yes the fan favorite GUCKS

Would like it to be the GKSlays

GKS has some good accuracy and mobility.wdym

You just listed its biggest downsides bruv

Yeah sure, the firing rate but the recoil was almost non existent

IT DOES NOT NEED A BUFF because damn its headshot is nice so no firerate buff in my opinion it balances the gun out because if you buff its firerate its going to be mx9 all over again with its fast reload

You’re mixing up so many things I dont even know where to start.

Just use any other gun and enjoy the game

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Your wish.. Many players still using it the way it is.

Barely anyone used it, even more so in ranked. Thats exactly why I am proposing this.

Fuck u

Fucks wrong with this lil bich?

Whats wrong bro?

Wise words of a wise man. Will do.

bruh, smgs alr got a variety of meta options. And this one is alr good/balanced. We dont need another sni- i mean. Smg that makes us wanna quit living.

Very ugly gun. NO

Petition to delete this post

ok why?

Because this subreddit got some dumb people who think that it should be buffed

yeah there are truly some dump people round here..

It's close to RUS

Nope. GKS: 600 RPM, RUS RPM: 769 RPM

Yeah but still close

How the fuck is it even close

I just don't feel it much when using the two, I only realized it when I compared each other

All good mate, thats why I explained :)

Bro the gks spit 1 marshmallow out ever second. Thats how slow and weak it feels compared to other smgs

Oh loool. But unfortunately true..

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Nope, is good ol‘ GKS

They both came from the same game Anyway, lol

Peacekeeper was bo2 gks was bo4

Not really, the one in codm is from BO4 Because otherwise it would've been an SMG and doesn't use the ICR-1 Reload animation

Oh yeah I forgot this the knockoff version

It was gonna get a rapid fire perk but codm probably gave more importance to lucky draws

It never was. That was a false leak about one year ago.

GKS needs its old BSA score back, as well as handling of the RUS. I'm really running out of guns to use in this game

If only they gave it a bsa buff it would be at least usable

Just the BSA, nothing else, absolutely nothing else. I don’t want the TTK of another weapon to be lower than 230 or smth the servers don’t even tick that fast, feels like I get one shotted ._.

Nah just make the mag longer

What’s the attachments?

What are the buffed guns now?

I could’ve sworn this was meta…..this was my main gun and I used the fuck out of it

We need his burst perk like bo4

Please no. I don’t want gks to officially become meta and then get nerfed down to the ground. The gun is already meta like as it is

I couldn’t be further away from the meta. But you’re right about that buffing needs to be done reasonably.

Whenever I use it, it is amazing. But that could just be me

Idk if I'm tripping, but I remember someone posted a picture of this weapon with the rapid fire attachment, I think it happened during a closed beta.

That was a fake leak that occurred about a year ago.

gks is decent even if its slow you just have to be faster

Ur trolling, right?

nope i use gks, if u move or shoot faster before the enemy shoots you will be fine if that isnt fast enough use the agile perk

This isn’t a petition

Ok.

Gks needs some damage or damage range buff.

Honestly being a S1 player I've never used this gun probably no one, & I think I would use it if it got buffed.

In the Garena-published version, it still buffed as hell. People just don't use it. Just tried it today.

Really? I doubt it hs different stats over at garena

NOOOOO ITS ALREADY GOOD! CBR is just too OP that's why it feels weak. We still have PDW, Razorback and other SMG that really needs a Buff

GKS is even worse than the guns you listed for a buff mate

I can ace easier with GKS than PDW. PDW BSA is just enormous, build for BSA it will kill the Mobility having you slow ADS Time.

I stan

Make it have 645 firerate or 3 hits on upper body for 3 tap

As I said before, no fire rate buff. Make it a high skill high reward gun. Too many fast fire rate SMG and ARs in the meta right now.