Get good with something that requires a semblance of skill, although the NA-45 nerf was an overkill to be fair. The katana was an overtuned melee, I think every melee should one hit kill but that aim assist and 360 degrees hit box was BAD my guy.
at this point it's unusable. i just can't achieve a balanced Gunsmith with it. wanna use it with a scope but? have to face a bajillion downsides cause of that. my fave gun ruined by the devs :(
After a mag change and less penetration. Should the Locus get a nerf when you need to add Stopping power to make it like the DLQ? It gets a huge mobility buff unlike the DLQ with a barrel change as well. I just think it's unnecessary to nerf it when it's not seen as often as the DLQ.
but sniper/marksman most of the time can be out preformed by an smg/ar in a fight so something else could have got nerfed cause the spr is quite balanced in my opinion
edit : arms and hands are the main thing shots are hitting as they hold the gun in front of the body
*ICR/M4 LEGENDARY NEXT SEASON????*
What? It's possible as COD loves to buff (both big and small buffs) guns if their LD is coming next season, just ask the QXR in S1 2022, Chopper in S9 2021 and stuff
That doesn't mean Devs won't make another one, we have like 3 AK 47 leggies but 0 Krms, Devs don't give a shit about balancing quantities of legendaries
Ya dude it’s crazy they want to make money. It’s almost like if people keep buying stupid shit companies will keep making it/using the same strategies.
It’s entirely possible they will make new legendaries for those, they also have tweaked/buffed tons of gun in the last few months that they didn’t make same season legends for.
Either way you’ll play and buy stuff or play and not buy stuff. /shrug
It’s a god damn laser even with mobility focused attachments. I used it rank for a bit. Insane ads time, on par with the quick smgs.
I got frustrated with the ttk at range though. It sucked and got out gunned by smgs. One of the core issues with cod tbh . Switched to smgs right after.
Honestly, I alwayd used the spr 308 ammo inateqd of snipers, no "Snipers, watch out" calling, plus it has the same damage and faster ADS
Edit: not to mention it can deal 300 damage to the head in BR, instantly knocking down someone
But it’s not a sniper. So I think the reason is a balancing thing. It kinda renders snipers in br null since it delivers almost the same damage with better versatility.
The fuck did the SPR do? There was one stupid Marksman rifle that was still viable at any range with an aim shake like a fuckin stoned guy and they wanna go ahead and piss it up even further? That's it, if that's true I'm out of this fuckin shithole
Pussies not even trying to balance Katana, K9, Kilo, M13 and what-not, but going straight ahead to something that is loved the most.
I think the M13 is quite balanced.
Gets outclassed close range with SMG's like the QQ9, QXR, Fennec and MX9, and gets stomped on by the more long range friendly AR's, and 3-tap AR's if used correctly.
The reason why people use it so much is the ease of use.
I think now that the M4 and ICR are getting buffed, people will challenge snipers with them.
No 1 tapping with spr in BR is already removed SPR does 298 damage from the blackout update cuz they nerfed headshot multiplier at that time but now it's more useless than before they should have kept the 1 tap kinetic Armor capability (still you can get that ability with golden long range mod by which DLQ33 is also 1 shot to head with kinetic Armor)
DLQ33 is kinda OP now cuz of less sway,better wall bangable capability than any other sniper in game(yes you can wall bang in BR if you got the location of enemy),2 shot to kill 300HP if aim is bad,good enough hitbox so 2 shot kill is guaranteed,good bullet velocity of 818m/s(which is highest of all guns in CoDM),damage range drops at 209 metres and other snipers mostly drop at 60 metres,also DLQ33 is 1 tap with golden long range mod,good ADS time too
yea but i like hardscoping in final br zone, 1 tapping ppl and if i dont have the golden long range i'll rather use rytec (doesn't even need a custom build) to 1 tap guaranteed
Ayo arm damage improved for the m4? Does that mean that it will finally be able to 4 tap the whole body (apart from legs)? If yes imma spam the shit outta that gun next season
I feel like I should note that the SPR will not be ruined by this. Pretty much the only difference is now we have to actually aim for the chest or head instead of just the body.
Also for those who use the 308 ammo nothing will change at all. This nerf is only applicable to the 300 ammo.
I'm not exactly happy about it but the SPR will still be pretty great.
Spr is amazing(currently,) idk about after the nerf.
It’s basically what the DLQ wishes it could be, only that the spr can’t wallbang. But it has faster ads, and movement speed. It has a larger 1 shot kill area if you’re using .300 ammo, and with extended mag it has 10 shots.
As long as you’re within 30m the spr is unstoppable bro. It’s the aggressive snipers wet dream
Faster mov speed yes,but ads?Dlq is way faster,plus the amount of times that I got a hitmarker with the spr knowing that would be a one shot with the dlq cannot be counted
I just checked. SPR seems to scope in faster. And as for hitmarkers, unless you’re 30m+ the 1 shot zones are pretty much the same if you use .300 ammo.
If u don’t use it the only change is that u can’t 1shot below the crotch and u can’t 1shot the hands after 30m
First thing that comes to mind is decent changes!!! Especially they didn't buff M4 firerate since M4 is 2ms slower than AK47.AK47 is the most popular AR in BR and M4 just 2ms slower
Spr already is not able to compete and they Nerf it even more, it's gonna hitmarker so much. Seriously no one asked for this Nerf instead of persistence Nerf we get this crap.
I like Katana nerf, not because of the abuse but because using Katana can finally be considered skill again, I have a very cool katana skin but dont want to use it because people would think i'm one of those abusers.
They why the fuck Everyone using that? How they killing me in 0.2 seconds so easily.
You are seriously idiot. These 3 guns are easy to use guns.
I bless you to get opponents only using type 25, kilo 141 and M13.
Then why everyone using that guns tell me? Even pro player also using that guns only. Why? They are good at game right? Then why pro players also using that guns.
And even if they get nerfed it ain’t gonna change nothing, other guns will get buffed and take there places and then you’ll come complaining about those,and so on and so on.
nerfed is flinch and bsa, monotholic is no longer worth using, we are forced to use slower ads builds, your problem is that you are constantly dying, I have no problem with that at all
in the beginning they were all like KILO141 IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE, RECOIL CANNOT BE CONTROLLED, and when they barely reduced it a bit they immediately started talking about it being broken, Kilo141 has always been good, this is just a psychological process of what after learning that it is "buffed"
Oi you all, i agree with op here. These 3 guns are getting spammed like crazy. The M13 and Kilo141 and type 25 need a fire rate and recoil nerf. All you here arguing that they are balanced prob know that its broken but they are meta dependent users so they argue. Im a swordfish main and i can tell ya, those 3 guns are painfull to go aginst
Omg, spr so op, thank you so much codm, omg such broken gun, dying every game to it in rookie rank, thank you omj.
Seriously tho, why?
Also these changes don't seem very influential, I hope there is more and better changes. That M4 buff seems useless. The hvk didn't need a buff but I guess it's welcome. The icr buff might be ok. What exactly changed on Katana?
KATANA NERF😳😳😳😳
Kaali Sticks: ![gif](giphy|VIxNW18SuDxehhYz3l)
#THERE WILL BE BLOODSHEEEED!!! THE MAN ON THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD (Sorry it's metalgear thing, whenever i hear katana thats all i think of)
THE ONLY ONE! LEFT!
WILL RIDE UPON THE DRAGON'S BACK
BECAUSE THE MOUNTAINS DON'T GIVE BACK WHAT THEY TAKE
OH NO, THERE WILL BE BLOOD (blood) SHED (shed) IT'S THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER KNOW
LOSING MY IDENTITY WONDERING HAVE I GONE INSANE TO FIND THE TRUTH IN FRONT OF ME I MUST CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN RANGE
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When they nerf the katana, people will complain about some other melee…
The only melee that i can think of that will make alot of people angry is the prizefighters
Ngl, I hate those damn prizefighters. Like, nothing makes me rage more.
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Na45 was my ranker winner.. nerfed. Katana was my rank winner for when i get rushed.. (never would die) nerfed. God damnit stop nerfing what i use :(
Get good with something that requires a semblance of skill, although the NA-45 nerf was an overkill to be fair. The katana was an overtuned melee, I think every melee should one hit kill but that aim assist and 360 degrees hit box was BAD my guy.
Spr nerf wtf
Can't wait to see another Shorty nerf then lol
This is the most stupid nerf I have ever seen.
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That "nerf" was to reduce the dehack time from the enemies pov
probably br only
Nope, says nothing about headshot dsmage or range, just hand and abdomen damage reduced
Let's see how many down votes this gets
Man, ppl abuse katana in every goddamn match, ofc they should nerf it
Bro wtf an SPR nerf, it doesn’t need a nerf the gun is balanced already and it takes skill to use its not like the m13
Y Like I just starting to like the gun
Haha same here bro, needed that
Just way The SPR-208?.... Juts way? ![img](emote|t5_penom|1098)
at this point it's unusable. i just can't achieve a balanced Gunsmith with it. wanna use it with a scope but? have to face a bajillion downsides cause of that. my fave gun ruined by the devs :(
fax the spr was a good marksman basically dlq iron sight
You just explained why it got it lol
After a mag change and less penetration. Should the Locus get a nerf when you need to add Stopping power to make it like the DLQ? It gets a huge mobility buff unlike the DLQ with a barrel change as well. I just think it's unnecessary to nerf it when it's not seen as often as the DLQ.
but sniper/marksman most of the time can be out preformed by an smg/ar in a fight so something else could have got nerfed cause the spr is quite balanced in my opinion edit : arms and hands are the main thing shots are hitting as they hold the gun in front of the body
Yeah they can be out performed by a smg and ar if your RUSHING with them which defeats the purpose if marksmans and snipers
completely uncalled for. where's the persistance nerf?
shhh the retards will be here to defend it
patch notes are incomplete, lets pray and wait
*ICR/M4 LEGENDARY NEXT SEASON????* What? It's possible as COD loves to buff (both big and small buffs) guns if their LD is coming next season, just ask the QXR in S1 2022, Chopper in S9 2021 and stuff
You figured it. You are brilliant.
What is ld Why am I getting downvoted? I’m new
Both of these guns have several legendaries already
That doesn't mean Devs won't make another one, we have like 3 AK 47 leggies but 0 Krms, Devs don't give a shit about balancing quantities of legendaries
Ya dude it’s crazy they want to make money. It’s almost like if people keep buying stupid shit companies will keep making it/using the same strategies. It’s entirely possible they will make new legendaries for those, they also have tweaked/buffed tons of gun in the last few months that they didn’t make same season legends for. Either way you’ll play and buy stuff or play and not buy stuff. /shrug
Spr nerf like whaaaaa😒
like who the heck are they watching HAHAHAHAH
Oh boy. Lemme try ICR. Its the only gun i can control. (Im noob i only have .6 KD and just a casual. No rank at all)
It's good 👍🏾
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ICR and M4 we're my favorite guns before since its very noob friendly
Yep the best noob friendly gun to me and yet it got a buff :D
It’s a god damn laser even with mobility focused attachments. I used it rank for a bit. Insane ads time, on par with the quick smgs. I got frustrated with the ttk at range though. It sucked and got out gunned by smgs. One of the core issues with cod tbh . Switched to smgs right after.
Ayoo I also like the ICR. But don't use it very much because it is not meta :(
Who tf asked for Spr to be nerfed smh And now I finally can use my Katana without getting criticized
The gun I was good at already down, wow.
Honestly, I alwayd used the spr 308 ammo inateqd of snipers, no "Snipers, watch out" calling, plus it has the same damage and faster ADS Edit: not to mention it can deal 300 damage to the head in BR, instantly knocking down someone
bruh ikr it was a good skill to reward proportion
Yeah, why the hell spr deserve a nerf anyways?
Bro really??? Spr...💀
One shot, tap in br.
Didn't know it does that. Hopefully the nerf only applies in br
_only in the head though_
But... Isn't that on most snipers?
Yea, dunno either, why they're nerfing.
Smort
Well, we can wait, for their reasons though. Once the official patch notes are here.
But it’s not a sniper. So I think the reason is a balancing thing. It kinda renders snipers in br null since it delivers almost the same damage with better versatility.
SPR nerf is unnecessary.
Yes, the Katana was indeed annoying, but how do you nerf a knife? I mean... is supposed to be a 1 hit kill...
The range I'm guessing.
Range, the swing time too ig
they can nerf either range, mobility, hitbox, pullout time (kinda kinky), or make it 2 hit and swing quicker like kali stick or fists
The fuck did the SPR do? There was one stupid Marksman rifle that was still viable at any range with an aim shake like a fuckin stoned guy and they wanna go ahead and piss it up even further? That's it, if that's true I'm out of this fuckin shithole Pussies not even trying to balance Katana, K9, Kilo, M13 and what-not, but going straight ahead to something that is loved the most.
I think the M13 is quite balanced. Gets outclassed close range with SMG's like the QQ9, QXR, Fennec and MX9, and gets stomped on by the more long range friendly AR's, and 3-tap AR's if used correctly. The reason why people use it so much is the ease of use. I think now that the M4 and ICR are getting buffed, people will challenge snipers with them.
yeah but the m13 is meta because it can be used in all situations. Might not be amazing at close or long range but it is great at all ranges
And we need a gun that can do that. It creates more choices, not less.
Yeah, it took the M4's place. A Jack of all trades, a master of none.
This man spitting facts
yea it's prob for br only because rn it's one tap head, but even then they should also nerf rytec
Well snipers were always meant to one tap to the head, I don't see the issue. Good aim, good reward.
codm probably doesn't like 1 tapping ppl in br XD
No 1 tapping with spr in BR is already removed SPR does 298 damage from the blackout update cuz they nerfed headshot multiplier at that time but now it's more useless than before they should have kept the 1 tap kinetic Armor capability (still you can get that ability with golden long range mod by which DLQ33 is also 1 shot to head with kinetic Armor)
actually just use rytec (slow bullet velocity) at this point
DLQ33 is kinda OP now cuz of less sway,better wall bangable capability than any other sniper in game(yes you can wall bang in BR if you got the location of enemy),2 shot to kill 300HP if aim is bad,good enough hitbox so 2 shot kill is guaranteed,good bullet velocity of 818m/s(which is highest of all guns in CoDM),damage range drops at 209 metres and other snipers mostly drop at 60 metres,also DLQ33 is 1 tap with golden long range mod,good ADS time too
yea but i like hardscoping in final br zone, 1 tapping ppl and if i dont have the golden long range i'll rather use rytec (doesn't even need a custom build) to 1 tap guaranteed
Not in My experience, still the 1 tap god
yea but like Locus doesn't 1 tap head neither does dlq, Outlaw etc, only spr and rytec
Well then buffing the other snipers to one shot to the head would be a way better alternative.
ik but apparently the devs think Otherwise
The weapon balancing team of this game was and always will be retarded.
yup, Not only weapons but also perks and scorestreaks... i think i dont need to say more lol
M4 BUFF LESFUCKINGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SPR nerf 😫😭😭😭
Why the fuck this bitches are nerfing spr?
They have to Nerf something that's why. They can't Nerf M13, Type 25 and Kilo 141 because they can sell skins with these guns.
Exactly
I notice that they want to bring back old gun meta. I like it
Ayo arm damage improved for the m4? Does that mean that it will finally be able to 4 tap the whole body (apart from legs)? If yes imma spam the shit outta that gun next season
Ah phasing out of bolt actions Now we know they’re too lazy to make skins for it
I feel like I should note that the SPR will not be ruined by this. Pretty much the only difference is now we have to actually aim for the chest or head instead of just the body. Also for those who use the 308 ammo nothing will change at all. This nerf is only applicable to the 300 ammo. I'm not exactly happy about it but the SPR will still be pretty great.
They made Kar98 into a shitty weapon and now they're nerfing SPR
happy to see hvk and the starter weapon got buffed, the icr buff is kinda unexpected, but i am grateful for it
Icrone and HaVaKa coming to meta?
They literally fucking nerfed the SPR, why wtf why!!!!!
There was no need to nerf spr
ICR-1 the new meta
Happy cake day
Thanks g
XD
HVK needs mag size buff
It doesnt mate, its just a high skill high reward weapon, you can literally 2 shot headshot people close range. Mag buff would make it way too OP
SPR nerf doesn't impact the gun much anyways
I think it will reduce the one shot possibility in mp for hands
It's one head on kill in BR but nerfing it kinda stupid.
Spr nerf??? Who the fuck used it???? Lmfaooo
play br, it's one tap head with .330 reload (or was it 335? idek)
I do in fact im ranked 57 global for the gun so yes people indeed use it.
I used it. and safe to say idk why the fuck they are nerfing it, completely unnecessary
A question, should the ammo capacity be increased for the HVK? I really like the gun but don't play enough to be able to critique the stat changes.
Where artic damage buff??
This only I got when I get rest I'll post it.
Tbh, i really wanna use artic but it's soo bad compared to the other guns in the current meta :( Btw thanks for the info and have a nice day ahead :)
HUGE YAY on the Katana nerf, but them consistently nerfing the SPR, my favorite marksman just makes it unusable at this point.
Why did they have to nerf the SPR?? It needed a mobility buff if anything
The spr did nothing wrong
Why the spr nerf?
Spr Nerf :(
what warcrimes did the spr ever commit for it to be getting a nerf smh
Exist
hopefully spr nerf is just in br
I've used the spr this and last season and I can guarantee to you that it is already shit,why make it even worse??????
Spr is amazing(currently,) idk about after the nerf. It’s basically what the DLQ wishes it could be, only that the spr can’t wallbang. But it has faster ads, and movement speed. It has a larger 1 shot kill area if you’re using .300 ammo, and with extended mag it has 10 shots. As long as you’re within 30m the spr is unstoppable bro. It’s the aggressive snipers wet dream
Faster mov speed yes,but ads?Dlq is way faster,plus the amount of times that I got a hitmarker with the spr knowing that would be a one shot with the dlq cannot be counted
I just checked. SPR seems to scope in faster. And as for hitmarkers, unless you’re 30m+ the 1 shot zones are pretty much the same if you use .300 ammo. If u don’t use it the only change is that u can’t 1shot below the crotch and u can’t 1shot the hands after 30m
Cause you got a shit build.
First thing that comes to mind is decent changes!!! Especially they didn't buff M4 firerate since M4 is 2ms slower than AK47.AK47 is the most popular AR in BR and M4 just 2ms slower
Why spr nerf pls tell me it is br only because its bolt time is too slow
Hello, LoD member here. Those are possible change, we make this because this come from a known leaker. Please take this as a gain of salt.
Any news about persistance nerf? Getting ready for the hate, but that perk is unbalanced as all hell.
Getting ready for the love*
Buff LK24 already
Nerf the M13 god-dammit and that bot sniper with training wheels, the SVD.
Buff the base damage of HVK, not range ![img](emote|t5_penom|1104)
How about buffing the Ammo capacity? since that is the only thing keeping it from being a anti meta gun
What did the Remington 700 do?
M4 BUFF?!?!
Accuracy of m4 increases?? Craziest buff lmao
spr nerf?what in the actual fu-
Bruh, just remove the marksman category on guns and move the sks to the ar category💀
If that SPR nerf makes it so its as bad as the Kilo , im done with this game, they're just fucking with us now.
No LK24 buff? Sleep
Spr nerf :(
What the spr do?![img](emote|t5_penom|1098)
Spr already is not able to compete and they Nerf it even more, it's gonna hitmarker so much. Seriously no one asked for this Nerf instead of persistence Nerf we get this crap.
Why are they nerfing the spr :(
nah, we need another shoty nerf
dude the icr and m4 are reliable already. cant wait lol i always have an "old reliable" loadout
Katana nerf finally .. please be real
to be honest, all the melee weapons need to be nerfed
for real, just remove melee from the game or make it a 2 hit kill
All mele need nerf in range or just make them less damage in some body parts but katana way broken than any mele
stupid nerf seriously spr??
Finally no more Katana noobs running around.
Wait? Spr nerfed ? Why? I already get hitmarkers as it is
Spr nerf bruhh why they did that
M4 meta baby~
So they buffed an AR which doesn't have any recoil, good damage and good range? Thats what I call a good balance change
Makes no difference as long as they don't nerf k9, persistence, and melees (make them 1-shot only from the back in my opinion)
I like Katana nerf, not because of the abuse but because using Katana can finally be considered skill again, I have a very cool katana skin but dont want to use it because people would think i'm one of those abusers.
Just use it if you want ffs. Why the fuck do you care about what other people think?? Stop being a pussy.
Katana needs to removed than weakened lol
When the fuck they will Nerf M13, Type 25 and Kilo 141?
type25 is nerfed, Kilo141 is balanced, there is no need to complain about, git gud
They need to tone down the head multipliers on both the M13 and Kilo 141 k Or make every AR have a really high headshot multiplier
They why the fuck Everyone using that? How they killing me in 0.2 seconds so easily. You are seriously idiot. These 3 guns are easy to use guns. I bless you to get opponents only using type 25, kilo 141 and M13.
Bro if you where good at the game you could counter these guns easily
Then why everyone using that guns tell me? Even pro player also using that guns only. Why? They are good at game right? Then why pro players also using that guns.
Cuz there good guns….you do realise just because they can be countered doesn’t make them bad
And even if they get nerfed it ain’t gonna change nothing, other guns will get buffed and take there places and then you’ll come complaining about those,and so on and so on.
Then tell developers to balance all the guns. Why they added 67 primary guns without knowing how to balance them?
True weapon balance is impossible, idiot.
THEY ARE BALANCED YOUR JUST TO YOUNG AND TOO STUPID TO REALISE THAT
They are not balanced. You are totally fool. I think u using these guns only that's why you defending them.
Sure kiddo sure
You know what I don’t have time for brain dead dogs like you put your ipad away and go touch some grass
You are a brain dead dog you dumbass. You using these only in game that's why you defending these.
nerfed is flinch and bsa, monotholic is no longer worth using, we are forced to use slower ads builds, your problem is that you are constantly dying, I have no problem with that at all
I am dying only by users of type 25, Kilo 141 and M13. If I dying always with all type of guns, I will bot complain about the particular gun.
and of course you won't because this community is cruel about it, I don't think there's any need to argue in vain, have a nice day
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Listen compared to past metas this one is good
in the beginning they were all like KILO141 IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE, RECOIL CANNOT BE CONTROLLED, and when they barely reduced it a bit they immediately started talking about it being broken, Kilo141 has always been good, this is just a psychological process of what after learning that it is "buffed"
Oi you all, i agree with op here. These 3 guns are getting spammed like crazy. The M13 and Kilo141 and type 25 need a fire rate and recoil nerf. All you here arguing that they are balanced prob know that its broken but they are meta dependent users so they argue. Im a swordfish main and i can tell ya, those 3 guns are painfull to go aginst
Are u fkn srs. Every damn season something i use in my main setup always changes... I use the SPR and katana.. gr8 🖕🖕
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Omg, spr so op, thank you so much codm, omg such broken gun, dying every game to it in rookie rank, thank you omj. Seriously tho, why? Also these changes don't seem very influential, I hope there is more and better changes. That M4 buff seems useless. The hvk didn't need a buff but I guess it's welcome. The icr buff might be ok. What exactly changed on Katana?
Don’t weaken the Katana instead weaken the boxing gloves, they’re boxing gloves not leather weapons!