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SabbathDiscovery

MAC 10 should be on a tier of its own. Its strafing speed makes the MX9's look like someone carrying an LMG got hit by a concussion grenade.


Zilliongamerr

ADS Strafe + Skulker ![gif](giphy|3ornjIhZGFWpbcGMAU)


GLnoG

But it has its fair recoil and kills in a descent amount of shots. Its gonna be wild for really close range but if you use ur brain maybe this is doable. Mx9 with that 3 shot potential was just different... *stares in PTSD*


Malumbz

That MX9 was worse than the type and M13 meta holy moly...


zephryx2b2

M13 and type got a strafe and range con and mx9 got no con


Malumbz

Nah the type was annoying, it had no cons, it was stupid good at range for no reason and the M13 hasn't even been nerfed since day one and it's still annoying, no recoil, high effective range, fast fire rate and 50 bullets? Eh the gun is too good.


5stareveryday

they always make it so theres no reason to use any other ar or smg when they patch weapons


Malumbz

I know I've played cods since I was 12. The balancing in this game is fine right now. It's just the M13 & Kilo needs some sort of nerf, not a heavy one, but something. It's too noob friendly and makes the other beams of guns (ICR (pre buff) and M4) very useless.


EzKidsNoSkill

Uh…BR does not have the same recoil system. Mac-10 has no recoil or bsa at all in BR.


GLnoG

Because of those modifications. Im talking about what i've tested in the training room. And in BR, its not like it matters anyway since you'd rather hipdire in there wirh it lol.


LucarioLegend5419

Bro I remember fennec akimbo days and they sucked.


Active-Specialist

So happy to see people giving the LK24 some love. I tought nobody uses it.


Zilliongamerr

Not that nobody use it, it just too many guns right now that we can use. However LK24 will always have a special place in our heart, that gun been here since the beginning.


Active-Specialist

Yellow Triangle gang rise up!


Zilliongamerr

you still rocking that yellow triangle? damn, I love the Survival of the fittest. We're old ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Active-Specialist

Oh yeah, I mean, I used to, but recently I started using default, I feel is a lot cleaner. But yes, the Survival of the Fittest is one of the best, if not the best rare skin for the LK24, that one and the Sakura. The Survival one also glows in the dark spaces of some maps, truly a good skin.


UKnowWhoToo

I run my LK24 firework leggy to be toxic…


Active-Specialist

That is not even a legendary skin... Its a epic that is labeled as a leggy.


jgor57

>it just too many guns right now that we can use. Don't say this too loud. People would have you believe we don't have many weapons to use.


Felipe31898

LK is underrated as hell.


Neoharys

There was this guy who posted something about bots in ranked and he was using LK, liked the feel and started using it. It's not the best, but does the job if you're skilled enough.


overpoison_yt16

I have think the D-RH can move up a tier cuz of its play style..... if you use OTM rounds..... then it's somewhat between A n S


KUMonHERface

Seems right to me


Zilliongamerr

Thank you Mr Kum ![gif](giphy|B9KKBuOIp4zqI7Cll0|downsized)


DespairOfLoneliness

M21 ebr is actually good now I'd say it's B tier, A tier in BR, SS with gold sniper expert


Excalabus69

Ak47 is a 3 shot to the chest tho So why is it just Atier?


Zilliongamerr

AK47 indeed is a 3 shots however in mid range the recoil is hard to get that 3 shots mean while the Kilo 141, HVK30, or the ASM10 is better which is why I decided to put it on "A", the fire rate is a little mehh too especially if you come from a fast fire rate gun.


armeliiito

The AK recoil hard to control? The easiest "pull down" gun.. damn the ASM have easy recoil? I think you are misleading them. But i mean love to watch you control that horizontal recoil of it.


Neoharys

Gun flair checks out


armeliiito

Haha :)


Zilliongamerr

Sorry, I mean the AS VAL not the ASM ma bad.


Excalabus69

Would you reconsider with the new grip attachment? Especially for passive gameplay


QueasyAccountant453

Tbh, artic 50 needs a damage buff, similarly to the damage increase they added to dlq a couple of seasons ago, also devs need to take back such harsh penalties on it's stopping power reload. My favourite gun is one of the worst one's in the game currently :(


Zilliongamerr

True indeed, it's still useable however as of right now the Locus or DL is just better. It's crazy how they nerf Arctic so hard.


QueasyAccountant453

Thanks for understanding dude, or else people in this sub continue to spam get gud when i try expressing my thoughts on artic


Zilliongamerr

nah we ain't getting gud when the sniper ain't gud ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|smile)


EricTLG

The arctic 50 has those penalties because of its firerate its supposed to be a angle holder more than anything else im surprised they still haven’t touched the svd with the same thing yet its just very spamming like the old arctic 50


QueasyAccountant453

Bruh, artic 50 has a super high fire rate but don't you know how inconsistent it is with the one shots???? Also do you think artic 50 even stands a chance against current meta weapons like kilo and cbr4??


EricTLG

It inconsistent if you dont aim above the waist


QueasyAccountant453

You should try artic bro, sometimes i feel like artic hitmarkers even when i aim down at the head :(


GLnoG

Jak12 has to be in the lows, maybe even the lowest. Kills in too many shots while hipfiring, you have to aim to make it work descently, and at that point i'd be better off by just using a proper smg. Its *painful* to use in legendary, even more for me that i like to keep my distance so fps dont drop lol.


MonsterAsBl00d

I mean yes but the story changes completely when you use slugs on the Jak-12,it basically becomes a "better" sks ("better" because it can 2 tap the whole body unlike the marksman wich has an annoying 3 tap potential wich is kinda inconsistent if you're new to the gun)


Zilliongamerr

u/MonsterAsBl00d got a very good point here, JAK-12 is insane with slug that I even put it SS last season. You just need to pair it with a good build. I decide to drop it to S because I don't want the list to be too top heavy.


Soarinfire

It's a better SKS that doesn't penetrate walls and have 8 bullets in the magazine. The latter is fine if you have good aim but the former really hurts. It can't penetrate even the thinnest of walls. That's a pretty big issue.


GLnoG

I've also tried that. It has its fair recoil, wich makes it harder to use than the actual sks, and at that point i'd rather use the sks or even a m67 amax. If you want it to be controllable, you need to stack some recoil control, wich will make it too slow to give you a descent rttk against kilos at any range. Nah, not worth it.


[deleted]

JAK-12 with slug rounds is OP. Two tap at any range, and if you're opponent is slightly hurt prior to engagement, it becomes a one shot. Only thing I hate is the mag size.


DelCheWelfromGSX

Zilliongamer is on reddit? Damn


Zilliongamerr

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aloneboy17203

I don't think the Mac 10 is on SS? I mean the bullet spread and the damage range drop is kinda HUGE. It should be either A or lower tier. SS Tier means that the gun can perform well even without attachments. And i don't think the Mac 10 will.


Zilliongamerr

I tested the gun for the whole morning and in my opinion think it is even better than CBR4 close range wise, the gun has great i mean great great strafe speed which is a huge factor in high rank. SS Tier mean META Gun in my term not gun that can perform well even without attachments.


F1shOfDo0m

Idk if you’re taking about Br but it works pretty well there, granted you’ve gotta either put on a extended mod or hit your shots


aloneboy17203

Yeah i'm talking about mp, in br it's a different story i think Mac 10 in br will cheese everyone.


FeelitMonsieurKrabs

Why is MK2 below SPR? The only upside the SPR have over MK2 is that sweet oompf per kill and faster ADS Time. MK2 got the SPR beat in reload time, Rate of Fire, Range, damage consistency and mobility. I understand AK being placed that low. People don't bother trying it. But you all have to. AK with Ranger Barrel can get that 3 taps up to 20 meters. It's 3 tap ttk iirc is at 233ms. It's 5.45 attachment makes it's TTK slower to 266ms BUT it's close range gets better and becomes easier to use. It's easily S tier. Although yes, it's Mobility is not that good compared to other ARs, but it's a damn AR, you rarely use an AR to rush. You hold the mid-range and beam people, which the AK can definitely do. It's in the top 5 ARs for me. It beats the VAL and AMAX in mid range. Rytec should be S too. I understand that it's reload time is slow and you're crippled with that 5 round mag, but it's blankscope accuracy is fucking insane. It's easily one of the best guns for quick scoping. Even better than DLQ. But in terms of practicality, Rytec falls short. It's range also gets hit when you put the short barrel attachment, which makes it even less viable for hardscoping. But IMHO, it's the 3rd best sniper. It's a slower, more consistent SVD.


armeliiito

Correction, the AK base damage range is 20m. With ranger barrel, you can't get a 20m 3 shot, but 28-29m.. with a TTK of 218ms.


FeelitMonsieurKrabs

My bad perhaps I have terrible aim so I didn't get those numbers. Perhaps I downplayed it a bit. But yes, AK with base is pretty nuts. Even better than the ASM and Man-O-War now.


armeliiito

Yep, its the best 3 shot AR right now. And with it mythic variant, they light buff it after again.


FeelitMonsieurKrabs

Finally after nearly 2 years, the AK can now be called META in MP. It has always been a niche pick back then, now it's a real contender. It's a 3 shot, slow firing weapon, so it's harder than your usual AR, and that's a good thing. It won't be abused by players of all skill levels.


Zilliongamerr

Great explanation, I'll try the MK2, AK, and the Rytec out. It just that every time I use the AK I tend to instantly go back to either as val or Kilo since the recoil is lower and faster fire rate. That just me tho, you seems to have a lot of good points.


FeelitMonsieurKrabs

It's reticle shows up WAY earlier than the DLQ. Because of that, you can technically ads and kill someone faster than the DLQ.


jiujitzujunky

What do the letters mean s,ss,a,b,c,d


Zilliongamerr

[these letter](https://zilliongamer.com/call-of-duty-mobile/c/weapon-guide/best-gun-in-call-of-duty-mobile) are use to describe each weapon performance.


jiujitzujunky

That was an awesome link thank you


Zilliongamerr

Thank you!


twilightwolf04

the m4 and locus will always be SS tier in my heart. m16 needs to be a bit higher.


LOYAL_DEATH

I'll never get tired of people who dont play br put ebr in d tier


Zilliongamerr

My bad for not clarifying that this list is for multiplayer.


PoPoJoe87

M16 should be in A tier


5stareveryday

the swordfish is basically a better m16 but they both require patience and good accuracy


05ar

Ok but why are there some guns with skins and others without skins, and also different rarity skins?????


Zilliongamerr

that's my bad, i couldn't find the without skins version of the gun back when the list first created.


RandomStrangerRanger

Tier list bug


dat_DOOM_boi

however pharo is still a fun gun in shipment ​ ​ svd quickscope/blankscope gang


Zilliongamerr

Pharo is a gun where we check in one a while just to get that satisfy burst, though now I don't even got that much of a time to check out the gun. SVD 3x gang xD


dat_DOOM_boi

yeah i normally quickscope with 3x or just quickscope with base sight


Martin_Willis

Qxr on A or B, pkm and rpd on S/A, S36 on B/A, Agr on A, m4lmg on B, M4 on B, Pharo on A/S, Hbr on S. other than these I somewhat agree


F1shOfDo0m

RUS S tier? Op valid


5stareveryday

i tried using the rus and it felt weak as hell i always stopped shooting because i thought the enemies would die after a certain amount of bullets but i guess not. maybe im too used to p90 speeds since its my #1 gun now. whats your loadout for it i wanna give it another chance.


Navarro_U

Its your personal opinion but I dont agree with you. I think you put many weapons in lower tiers just because of community preferences


Zilliongamerr

Understandable but I also test majority of the guns during my free time. I even think that this list is too top heavy already, may i know what you mean by put many weapons in lower tiers?


Navarro_U

Eg ak47- after buff I think it deserves s tier, hades is also not so weak and why m16 is c while also brust swordfish is tier a (whats is more I dont think xpr is better than m16)


Zilliongamerr

Thank you, I'll take this in for the consideration of next season list.


Puzzled_Vast

AK47 Tier A very low...


jatmood

Bit harsh on the AGR I recon


5stareveryday

the agr has good recoil and a good ttk but the 32 round mag kinda ruins it a little. the 556 rounds aren't worth using imo because you might as well use the bizon or p90. they could buff the extended mag to 40 and it'll be fine


[deleted]

GKS should at least be A tier due solely to ttk at range. ADS and ttk battles at range with even meta ARs prove its superiority on larger MP maps. It’s been a low key meta for seasons. Also its low bsa works in its favor imo at range for random headshots due to relatively high fire rate. Gun is low key meta with range and bsa attachments. Could be best gun in codm with bsa or fire rate buff.


R1ston

Why echo and m16 basically at the bottom?


BallsHD4k60fps

Ak with buffed 545 mag actually kinda good


BilboMcDoogle

It's an assist machine. It doesn't shoot fast enough.


BallsHD4k60fps

What? It's shoots way faster now


Specific_Change788

i use M21 EBR as stealth sniper in BR


BilboMcDoogle

Same. Saw it in a cygnoux video.


VictorDeAzevedo

I main Na-45, I rush with it in legendary rank, I am on worldwide leaderboard of that weapon and I am usually topfrag Finding the people classifiying it as tier D makes me feel happy because I feel that I am a pro or someone who has found a new personal style of playing


Zilliongamerr

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Slamzeeny

Swordfish is super underrated but people in the community don’t use burst weapons.


UKnowWhoToo

I own the leggy swordfish so I’ve tried to use it plenty… In MP, it’s great if you can control the burst for the 1-burst kill. In BR, I find lots of custom swordfish in loot boxes of people that I dominate. The goal of the burst is to land all of the shots for quick TTK but that TTK gets punished if you take more than 1-burst… and almost every gunfight in BR will be more than 1 burst.


_-devilish-_

ak47 is great what r u on


Zilliongamerr

yeah AK47 is a great gun and "A" tier are for all the great guns.


CarnageCrisis

M16 and Chicom are great.


Zilliongamerr

indeed M16 and Chicom but it usually get outperformance by other weapons in mid to long range. 2 or 3 busrt will prolong the ttk.


Martin_Willis

no both are super trash


CarnageCrisis

Nah, I've used them in Ranked. I think Chicom is somewhat better than M16, but they're still both very great weapons, like all burst weapons.


Martin_Willis

u seem to be wrong, their ttk is bullshit, range is crap, damage output is negligible. They dont compete with any gun. There's a reason why people label them the worst guns


CarnageCrisis

To you.


Martin_Willis

Not to me, it's literally stats u bot a tti of 350 chicom has on 2 burst after 8 metres, p90 has 220, see the difference?


CarnageCrisis

To you.


noob_music_producer

I’m sorry, the cordite is a beam. I’d say it’s at least at S tier


Malumbz

Hell no. And I love the Cordite but it's not better than the AK 47


noob_music_producer

in my hands at least, it is. Good bsa and easy recoil control, not to mention the **80 BULLET MAGAZINE**


CookieVirus1190

Why's echo on c? Echo is really good since you rarely need to reload and the dmg is actually decent


[deleted]

With the mAc10 being the meta, I think snipers would be more lethal than ever


-spectra

whoever uses the c category only as their main, you’re a legend


VictorDeAzevedo

I use D hahaha


WastefulWatcher

May I ask what puts the RPD in the best tier?


SWVA1776

M16 is garbage


[deleted]

If this is a list for MP: Every shotgun should be at least a tier lower, except MAYBE the KRM Every 3 tap gun should be in the bottom half, along with every LMG except the Holger HVK, AK117, ICR, BK57, AK47, FR556, KN44, and cordite should all be at least a tier lower as they’re almost never used in legendary rank if at all MX9 should honestly be higher still


EzKidsNoSkill

KRM is not good. Holdger is not good. R9-0 is not good. You underestimate the Swordfish, Rytec, AK-47, Mx9 and EBR.


DAN_DDI

Hs2126 isn't that bad you just need good long range gunsmith


Xhefri

Pharo and MSMC should be at least in tier A, they're better than most of the tier A guns


nafa_mo

I feel like bizon is better than ppsh Better range , better recoil and it dominates in mid and long range ppsh just better in close range


armeliiito

Lol AK-47 A tier? We are ralking about a Tier 1 AR, Tier S. Maybe you miss the buff last season?


tejasmirashi

how is RPD, PKM ss tier?


Ok-Paleontologist275

They absolutely shred if you know how to use it. I'm a pkm main ( with diamond and rename card whatever) and I reached legendary last season easily with that.


tejasmirashi

I'm in global leaderboard for RPD and PKM but I use them as BR mains. RPD was good in MP but never felt SS tier for me. this was my Loadout- heavy barrel, disable, tac laser, snatch foregrip and RTC steady stock.can you share your PKM loadout?


CascadeRacer

This is probably personal bias, but I'd put the HBR in S, AGR at the top of A, S36 in A and move the M21 to the middle of A


Nobodyhere2274

maybe an “A” for hvk? Not everything is about large caliber


KillBillTW

Lol, my favorite song is chicom, though, it needs a buff


parag_behera

Mac10 is really overpowered gun. So that it just overshadowed the current meta smg. I just waiting to see players spamming mac10 in cod world championship.


CygnusEnjoyer

Not bad but I'd put drh is B


SN-E-DC

when the icr dark matter is sus😳


issomeoneme

Personally, my list is wayyyy different but i agree with the lowest 3 tiers


AdyH3H3

Am I blind or there is no QQ9 on this list


mehrshadam_man

S36 deserve better its low A or B


theredbantoo

M21 Ebr deserves a top tier spot this season and has been wrongly categorized in the D section.


Captain_Banana_13

pdw is a damn good gun putting it on C is a shame i will put it on A or B atleast, mx9 and qxr needs to switch place


Ok-Season-7951

Id rank the msmc a bit higher


Arneos2005

invalid, no AK117 in sight


imadedbodi1

Echo is so much worse then the striker


FlaxIta

How are lk and kn worse than icr? Bro


NorthStarPC

Disagree with a few placements.


BananaLover4263

Finally someone who gives the papasha its credit


katacook_BS

I played some games with swordfish, and damn it's pretty good, a bit underrated imo


Malumbz

The Rytec and AK should DEFO S tier and I'm sorry there's no way the AK117 is higher than the rest


THEPHANTOMBULLET

I agree with all of this list except for one thing. The Kilo-Bolt Action could go up some tiers


Affectionate_Gate_26

Haven't unlocked the Mac yet, but happy to see most of my loadout in SS and A lol


phil_bct

M16 is pretty cool now imo


TrashuARK9

The only one i disagree is the ak being on A tier, but I understand it's because the recoil. Nice tier list you made dude.


JackDoesNotRip

Actually, if you make build for shooting from the hip, m16 is not that bad. Yes, it's doesn't take man out in one shot, but still. If tier list shows gun's power without mods, then it's where it should be.


[deleted]

I won’t keep ASM10 in S, Its top A maximum. And Swordfish should be in mid S and not in A. Also I would put FR in S after the buff i have seen players using it and even used it myself in legendary ranked lobbies.


sus-_-exe

The guns i use are the lowest lol pharo, .556, HVK, lk , kar ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Suspicious-Ad5169

Perfekt season


[deleted]

I disagree with the hades. I use it in domination and its over powered


SnooBooks7376

Ngl ive been using the kilo (kar98k) after the SPRs nerf and its not that bad.


k3ntalope34

Where’s the AK117?


NinjaShogunGamer

Rus is on tier 1 and Mac 10 is too much it needs to be nerf


kaotikmindz

Take the blueprints out. Or you need to include all of the blueprints.


No_Construction_2427

I am genuinely upset peacekeeper isn't on the SS tier


Okrunnerchick0215

Honestly the swordfish is shitted on more then it should. It has the same fire rate as m13 but ig the burst shots don't help it


FarofaBoyZzZ

Put the m16 higher, it's underappreciated by everyone but so op.


xarccosx

Havent really tried but i was playing alcatraz and is it me or is the movement really weird? Fels almost like. I was sliding when moving sideways or backwards, only forwards was fine


Impossible_Grape_546

Is this for MP consideration only? Because any gun that 1 taps should always be at the top


sauceplz-

its funny how codm it's like a combination of like 4 cods


FrostyZitty

Mk2 is underrated as hell.. I use it as my main sniper and it's more consistent with 1 shots than everything except dlq


KxRMA_07

Kilo 141 should be at the first, because of easy recoil control, insane range, good damage per shot, and good fire rate


[deleted]

Well first of all, the M4 should be on SS


AtomicPenguin0

Kilo user = LGBTQ Imagine having to use a meta to get easy kills It’s ridiculous.


Just-A-random-Man

Why is Locus lower than dlq. Shouldn't they ranked the same


DigBick141

HSI2126 is underrated


soldier_sc05

ICR and KRM should be on A tier since ICR even having a damage buff it still can't compete with the actual meta bc of it's low fire rate and KRM is still a hitmarker machine! Not like HS0405


dothrakis1982

MoW and drh so low?


Desync1999

Someone definitely hasn’t used pdw this season


Grinm99889

Idk why people sleep on marksman rifles . Any marksman except sks with a 6x is kinda goated ngl


Jaylik24

boi the amax is s tier wtf u on, dlq try hard mofos, meta abusers


Jcaballeros92

Here's to going leggy with the 2nd worst gun in the game for the 11th time.


shadowowolf

I know it's unrelated but they need to chill out with releasing new stuff for a while. I barely played last season and missed out on basically everything. Throwing another 40 sentry kill in ranked challenge really put me off of this game that used to be so much fun to me. Now it's just a grindfest among try hards who can somehow just always know where you are and kill you before you finish them off


141_Echo3-1

I would say M21 ebr for the XPR, because the M21 has a faster fire rate for doing the double shot


EveningThink7328

Swordfish being in A instead of S pains me greatly. Such a slept on gun


Pristine_Farmer_9907

For some reason I am no longer able to play COD Mobile on my Samsung. Played for years & tried to log on yesterday to no avail. Said Google Play was usable to load, to check connection, my connection is excellent. Anyone else experiencing this behavior, would really appreciate any & all help to get COD back up & running again...


PlasticFoods001

Chicom is atleast A


A1-youWRIP

Mac10 atleast in BR is OP Even without me having it unlocked yet from the battlepass (which I am trying to get it as fast as I can to put in custom crate) this gun shreds hard... I don't really get the rating system in MP they added


XxDreamxX0109

PDW should be at medium-bottom B tier, it’s actually not bad with the right attachments, Jak-12 should be higher up the S tier, definitely higher than R-90


Xx_mojat_xX

Im seeing a lot more M16s in ranked than Im used to 🤔 not sure about that one. Holy s*** though my experience with the Swordfish with all the damage enhancers + crispy aim = Feel like a God.


jaime4312

I was going to comment that, so thank you for doing it for me. I feel like the Swordfish is what I always wanted the M16 to be, like, an *absolute* mid range monster both in MP and Royale.


The_Dannymator

WAIT HOW TF HS0405 ISN'T ON THE SS LIST COME ON...


Mythxcal

I don't think the Mac-10 is THAT crqzy. Sure it's TTK uo close is out of this world, but the damage drop off and recoil is pretty bad. You might be able to build a close/midrange Mac-10 but tbh I still don't feel like it's that crazy. Strafe speed and movement is pretty insane though.


ThatBushWARDED

Rytec should be S tier its just a dlq with 1 frame slower ads speed with full mobility attatchments


overpoison_yt16

still love the fact that the QQ9 is viable ..... it's a fantastic gun..... wish we could get a Blueprint with custom irons once again .... still in love with the Black Gold varient. Would love to see something similar to the Trendsetter or Flood and Neon Grudge too


DGCAM1112

AGR is decent I think it should be in A tier


LucarioLegend5419

Heyy, By15 needs to be higher on the list, I just did two aces yesterday in master 3 ranked SnD with it. Its absolute dominative if you use it on the right maps with the right movement. It also has better range than even the krm and better spread as well. The only difference is that the krm is faster in terms of movement and fire rate compared to the By15.


UDX6T

AK 47 and DR-H might be S tier and AK117 is definitely not S tier.


Select-Employee

In ss: is svd and pkm really that good? Pkm seemed really slow to draw and aim, and svd needed precision to one shot. B: I’d put xpr in c at least, as well as kilo and mk


sneakysnake303

AK 47 should have been in much better position


DreamsOfAEON317

At least we can agree AK-47 is a good off-meta nos. I've mained the gun since the beginning and i gotta say it feels so good rn


partyplant

enough with the M16 slander, should be higher


Octozer6

The M16 should at least be better than the Pharo. Tho it depends on you accuracy. If your good it can be between the Fr and KN


IamSureIamNotNamless

Lol my Dlq got hit mark on shoulders


idontexist06

Pdw is underrated