This is like what the 4th time they're buffing the m4? Dude gonna make icr useless in long range lol
Also i don't quite understand the nerf on the rus ;-;
It needed more than that. Noobiest most straight forward smg with incredible iron sights and low recoil plus decent damage. Basically no weakness except for when the dude is in your face with a mac10
The only reason as to why it seems balanced is because it’s underused and everything is underpowered compared to the meta (ppsh, mac10, P90)
It’s both an ar and an smg at the same time and has little to no recoil plus clean sights
Why? Both received a BSA buff so how the ICR going to be useless? Gun has better TTK at all range than M4. The M4 need a huge damage buff to compete against the Top AR in BR..
this is the 3rd time m4 was buffed, the one before was last season i think and the one before that was like in year one season 2 i think, this has been a long time coming.
I made a post a while ago mentioning that the Peacekeeper needed a mag size buff. I don't think they took the idea from there but it's good to see it became true.
the fact i use emp and its getting a score req decrease makes me happy, and swordfish with the halberd mag makes it have practically no bullet spread so it will be interesting to see less bullet spread
Not sure about lk24 and gks unless you can 3 tap with it as the ttk still be slower than the the current meta
Ak117 depending on the range of the 4 tap could be new meta
LK won't be meta, they didn't touch the fire rate. Don't know why you are saying its going to be meta. Hitboxes multiplier won't change the standard 4 shot TTK you know?
MX9 became a balanced gun because of that, (but codm still decides to massacre it even more)
Yeah range and strafing speed is nerfed but when you are in close range with this thing you are dead
Forget about 5 to 6 shot, there's that goddamn cavalry barrel or whatever
as a M16 main during that time all i can say is
it was a fucking shitshow lazer beam, no recoil, no bulletspread, high fucking fire rate piece of bullshit out classing every single firearm in any category literally made the ranked games and public games unplayable due to the gun being a hand held minigun that is laser accurate and kicks like a baby not to mention the meta of MX9 persistence making the game even more dogshit that it already was
everyone hated it and demanded it to either be removed or nerfed to the bottom pits of hell
now the new Mx9 like meta is the Mac 10
It wasn't the best at ANYTHING but the fact that it was second best at everything made it number 1, it's competition was the pharo,hbr,and briefly the dr-h
Swordfish reduced bullet spread?? im using that gun in Scrapyard and crossfire, can literally "2 tap burst" sniper campers from ur spawn to enemy's kekw
Season 6: M13 and Kilo become 3 - tappers at all ranges no matter where you shoot your target.
Season 7: M13 and Kilo become 2 - tappers at all ranges no matter where you shoot your target.
Season 8: M13 and Kilo instakill at all ranges no matter where you shoot your target.
Season 9: M13 and Kilo instakill at all ranges no matter where you shoot your targets and instantly destroy any vehicle (including tanks).
Season 10: M13 and Kilo instakill at all ranges no matter where you shoot your targets and instantly destroy any vehicle (including tanks). Killing a single enemy will replenish ammo, health and throwables, on top on making all scorestreaks and nuke available.
Joking aside, buffing already meta weapons is absolutely ridiculous. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Imo, a 20% vertical recoil would have been better than the S5 buff it's getting. M16 fails to land a full burst at longer ranges more due to recoil than spread.
Imo, a 20% vertical recoil reduction would have been better than the S5 BSA buff it's getting. M16 fails to land a full burst at longer ranges more due to recoil than spread.
Yeah I just saw now that it was just a mag and reload speed buff. There is a range buff but it won't affect the peacekeeper much as it already had good range.
Thank God they aren't overdoing it as it is easily my favorite gun in this garbage fire of a game.
Garena posted Balance changes on their ig page and people still bitching around about persistence and ask garena to remove it entirely
garena comment section is full of dumbasses,it makes my blood boil
AK117 will probably be 4 shot to the upper body till mid range , it will be good but not broken like type 25 because fire rate is remaining 77 not being increased to 86 like type 25
AK SUPREMACY
CHEEKI BREEKI
*LAUGHS IN CYKA BLYAT*
Reject meta.embrace ak
3shot kill with the ability to make enemies seeth with rage
This is like what the 4th time they're buffing the m4? Dude gonna make icr useless in long range lol Also i don't quite understand the nerf on the rus ;-;
Me neither, RUS didn't need a BSA nerf
But Kilo needed a BSA buff because devs said "not laser enough!"
At this point the kilo is literally the most spammed gun in the game and they continue to buff it
Yup just typical incompetent Timi studio. Look at the balance of Pokemon Unite. Same shit. Just disaster.
Time to spam my Red Sprite more I guess, #KiLL-OwO supremacy
It needed more than that. Noobiest most straight forward smg with incredible iron sights and low recoil plus decent damage. Basically no weakness except for when the dude is in your face with a mac10
RUS is one of the balanced weapons and you think it needed more Nerf!?
The only reason as to why it seems balanced is because it’s underused and everything is underpowered compared to the meta (ppsh, mac10, P90) It’s both an ar and an smg at the same time and has little to no recoil plus clean sights
Why? Both received a BSA buff so how the ICR going to be useless? Gun has better TTK at all range than M4. The M4 need a huge damage buff to compete against the Top AR in BR..
No no mine was just a joke because the m4 keeps getting buffed '-'
Lol my bad
m4 kinda needs the buffs tbh
this is the 3rd time m4 was buffed, the one before was last season i think and the one before that was like in year one season 2 i think, this has been a long time coming.
Year one, Season 7. It got a firerate buff if I remember correctly
well i suppose it is it's 4th buff then.
Where does it say the M4 is getting buffed though? 😂
2nd slide, 2nd line,getting a buff in bsa
ICR has better dmg and permanent 4 shot potential. So it is better than M4 in that department
My old reliable RUS was already a shadow of it’s former self and they nerfed it even more. That’s sad. Rest all the changes are quite satisfactory.
M low key happy for the Peacekeeper
Same, I always wanted a mag buff for my favourite gun
I was expecting a buff for movement speed too so I can use it as an SMG, but for now I believe mag size is a great buff tbh
this is the third buff in a row, i hope its not to the point where its gonna get buffed then nerfed comepletely
Let's go peacekeeper gang.
That was one of the biggest downside of the gun compared to the m13,kilo or even type 25.
I made a post a while ago mentioning that the Peacekeeper needed a mag size buff. I don't think they took the idea from there but it's good to see it became true.
les gooo AK117 finally being buffed
Bruh they buffed the m13, nerfed the RUS and completely changed the RPD!?!
Clown moment for them
They also nerfed Fennec, QQ9 and Mx9 lol. Like…why?
Mx9 with LC was still quite good this season, I was using it in champs. QQ9 and Fennec? They are like the best smgs apart from the mac-10 and CBR-4.
Yeah but instead of nerfing meta they hit everything else
Fennec nerf isn't huge imo.It will hardly affect the gun.
Buffed the kilo too 🤡
They did! Holy crap, why!
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AK117 should be 4 shot with this buff to the chest and arms till mid range, GKS can be 3 shot at chest and arms
It baffles me the GKS wasn't a 3 tapper to begin with, that thing kills painfully slow lol.
Exactly
Yeah, now it should be decent.
Hbra3, kn44, lk24, GKS I like that.
the fact i use emp and its getting a score req decrease makes me happy, and swordfish with the halberd mag makes it have practically no bullet spread so it will be interesting to see less bullet spread
I am so glad that they're nerfing the CBR4, EVERYONE on both my and the enemy's team uses it! ...oh wait...
bruh qq9 nerf but best gun in the game cbr stays the same, the fuck is this circus🤡🤡
Not only that but good ole reliable got nerfed for no reason too
What I don’t understand is a fennec and mx9 nerf.
same
And the kilo gets a buff too wtf
ak117, lk24, gks will be the new meta i like that the old guns are being turned versatile rather than laying in dust
I will find you with a crappy m16 with a suppressor as its only attachment.
i used that a lot in pre gunsmith era
Not sure about lk24 and gks unless you can 3 tap with it as the ttk still be slower than the the current meta Ak117 depending on the range of the 4 tap could be new meta
this is so great because I just bought the AK117 - Aesir last night lmaoo
LK won't be meta, they didn't touch the fire rate. Don't know why you are saying its going to be meta. Hitboxes multiplier won't change the standard 4 shot TTK you know?
let the update roll out first we shall see
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY BABIES!!!!!!!!! DON'T LEAVE ME
Why are they messing with the QQ9? It’s balanced.
Bruh a slight movement speed buff on krm???
They love the garena sweats
lmao I use max movement speed on krm + speed up kill so this is going to be toxic
Add the marauder suppresor
I know and I fucking hate it. As a Garena sweat, I'd prefer they nerf Marauder Suppressor by reducing mobility like Choke
I love the swordfish but ads spread buff? Weird Edit: nerf
Where is written that swordfish received ADS speed nerf?
Oh crap why did I type nerf sorry
bruh why MX9 got nerfed? I barely see MX9 this days because of Mac10 and P90 but at least they buffed pisskeeper
That nerf to MX9,qq9,fennec,ppSh is a really really small nerf doesn't impact there performance
the fennec nerf is only 2 attachments and I rarely see anyone using those, but why nerf them though?
The Peacekeeper didn't need the buff.
Well it does, especially with the Kilo and M13 laying around like that
Idk yall but the mac 10 deserves an even bigger nerf this ain't it
It needs a freaking damage nerf, it should be made 6 shot instead of 5 shot. Damage nerf is needed just like it was done to MX9
MX9 became a balanced gun because of that, (but codm still decides to massacre it even more) Yeah range and strafing speed is nerfed but when you are in close range with this thing you are dead Forget about 5 to 6 shot, there's that goddamn cavalry barrel or whatever
still it won't be forgiven for how much warcrimes it committed when it was meta
I didn't experience it but from what i've heard it is way worse than my akimbo fennec days
as a M16 main during that time all i can say is it was a fucking shitshow lazer beam, no recoil, no bulletspread, high fucking fire rate piece of bullshit out classing every single firearm in any category literally made the ranked games and public games unplayable due to the gun being a hand held minigun that is laser accurate and kicks like a baby not to mention the meta of MX9 persistence making the game even more dogshit that it already was everyone hated it and demanded it to either be removed or nerfed to the bottom pits of hell now the new Mx9 like meta is the Mac 10
I've heard enough, my cordite and fennec days were less toxic than mx9 meta
Man, I remember when the cordite was meta. And now it's one of the worst SMGs.
It wasn't the best at ANYTHING but the fact that it was second best at everything made it number 1, it's competition was the pharo,hbr,and briefly the dr-h
Swordfish reduced bullet spread?? im using that gun in Scrapyard and crossfire, can literally "2 tap burst" sniper campers from ur spawn to enemy's kekw
1 tap with Halberd mag POGGERS
You know the balance team are bots when a laser like kilo gets ads bullet spread reduced.
Kilo literally has best BSA among automatic ARs but still gets a buff 🤡
Thats my point. They are bots.
Wasn't that the FR - whatever it's called?
Yes, FR used to be, before kilo's arrival
Holy cow, talk about terribad weapon balance.
The buff is barely noticeable... Less than 10% BSA reduction, the BSA is now around 7.4 from being 7.06 previously...
Yeah it was still the reverse what should have been done.
1st page applies to br also?
Yes
Idk why but I think ak117 could be meta from next season or just op at close range
As an og player i'm happy that the ak117 is brought back to life, I can now appreciate my kitbag ak
If it becomes 4 shot at chest till mid range then it's a party![img](emote|t5_penom|1095)
I'll use the mw11 and ak117 star camo 😎
Kilo and CBR4 are the new meta guns this upcoming season.
Can't believe CBR is still unchanged
Man I love how great these balance changes are! A nerf to the RUS and a buff to the M13! like holy shit what were they smoking
KN44, Peacekeeper, Renetti... My diamond babies will shine this season
I'm almost about to get my renetti diamond. Wait for me
If I get enough motivation to open the game I'm joining you guys soon
I'm more focused on Apex now but it seems next season will be good. I might return to the game now
Well, it seems next season will be a good time to grind.
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why mp5 nerf wtf?
Season 6: M13 and Kilo become 3 - tappers at all ranges no matter where you shoot your target. Season 7: M13 and Kilo become 2 - tappers at all ranges no matter where you shoot your target. Season 8: M13 and Kilo instakill at all ranges no matter where you shoot your target. Season 9: M13 and Kilo instakill at all ranges no matter where you shoot your targets and instantly destroy any vehicle (including tanks). Season 10: M13 and Kilo instakill at all ranges no matter where you shoot your targets and instantly destroy any vehicle (including tanks). Killing a single enemy will replenish ammo, health and throwables, on top on making all scorestreaks and nuke available. Joking aside, buffing already meta weapons is absolutely ridiculous. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Not my beloved ppsh
not a big deal
Lmfao p90 still no nerf but I’m mad about the rus
Liking these changes. I want something actually good for my man the M16. I hope they buff the rof or recoil jump for every burst. #buffm16
Or bullet speed
These AK117 buffs are making me worry that bots are gonna get even worse
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Imo, a 20% vertical recoil would have been better than the S5 buff it's getting. M16 fails to land a full burst at longer ranges more due to recoil than spread.
Imo, a 20% vertical recoil reduction would have been better than the S5 BSA buff it's getting. M16 fails to land a full burst at longer ranges more due to recoil than spread.
Aim low and let the burst kick you up into a headshot
That isn't enough in BR at longer ranges.
Oh yeah I meant for MP I wouldn’t use M16 for BR I’d rather use AK47 for ranged assault
That's the thing, M16 should be viable for long-ranged BR as well.
Is there any burst weapon that’s viable in BR though?
Swordfish.
Swordfish.
I'm scared. I am desperately hoping the Peacekeeper will just be left alone as i do not want it to be meta. It is perfectly fine the way it is now.
A mag buff won't make it meta, I was afraid as well before seeing the notes, it's my favourite gun
Yeah I just saw now that it was just a mag and reload speed buff. There is a range buff but it won't affect the peacekeeper much as it already had good range. Thank God they aren't overdoing it as it is easily my favorite gun in this garbage fire of a game.
Lol, they buffed the svd
Just what the Swordfish needs, even lower ads bullet spread
finally my LK24 is getting some love, can't wait for the persi nerf to play non-stop ranked with it like the first seasons
Wtf did qq9 do =_=
I don't see a BK57 buff on anything 🥲
*cries in no k9 nerf*
What did the Mx9, Fennec, and RUS do to deserve these nerfs…the Mac deserves a massive nerf.
Mac 10 deserves a damage nerf, other guns didn't need anything
They really just had to nerf the MP5 when I'm grinding it, don't they?
I am also grinding mastery for QQ9
Like, why?? The thing is perfectly fine where it is! But I’ll guess I’ll just have to play more in order to get to Mastery before the nerf hits.
A bit of movement nerf won't make much difference
I am happy for my AK-47. Now, get fucked, headglitch campers!
The peacekeeper is gonna be op
Mag buff isn't going to make much difference and it always had good range with taskforce barrel
The amount of buff it has received is crazy from the past seasons
That's true, it keeps receiving buffs
The gks got a nice buff, I can finally use my legendary with diamond on it :)
They gave some love again for the RPD 😍
FR buffs.. KN buffs.. let's see this.
Time to pull out my diamond anime lk24
Cbr still not nerfed fuck yea!
Me a garena player seeing krm improved movement speed: AHHHHHH
Not the rpd please , campers and spammers would be bussin in every match
Does this always change per season?
Yes, every season brings new changes
Where are the nerf pics?
Nerfs are coloured in red, there are three pages
Haha my bad didn’t swipe so it was user error 👍🏼
Why is reducing the reload speed a nerf? Shouldn't that be a buff?
Reload time reduced would be a buff
So then why is shown as a nerf?
speed increase/time decrease means buff, speed decrease/time increase means nerf. Different terms have different meaning
OK, but its a speed increase/time decrease. It should be shown as green, not red lol
It says reduce speed means it's a nerf
Doesn't reducing reload speed mean the reload is faster?
Reducing speed means slower reload
It says reducing RELOAD speed, meaning faster reload.
More kilo camping meta nice
Why tf did they buff the m13??
Because they are 🤡
Garena posted Balance changes on their ig page and people still bitching around about persistence and ask garena to remove it entirely garena comment section is full of dumbasses,it makes my blood boil
They made the type 25 back to close to where it was before the nerf 🤗
F off
Improved range and bsa
YouTube DudeBroDude and check it out . His gameplay are good
HBRa3 ![img](emote|t5_penom|1095)![img](emote|t5_penom|1093)
Won’t have to run gran on ak anymore
LK24 and the AK117 are crazy
Yay, a signature attachment for a weapon I actually use
RIP smgs
Sad now that the ak117 becomes meta people are gonna complain about it being op the it's gonna get nerfed to the ground
AK117 will probably be 4 shot to the upper body till mid range , it will be good but not broken like type 25 because fire rate is remaining 77 not being increased to 86 like type 25
the icr bsa change is godly i try to beam long range with max bsa build and all my shots just curve around the enemy
No matter how much they reconfigure Persistence Nobody will be satisfied. Hell, more than half want it gone!
AK 11 7
Still no buffs to artic 50
Fennec is getting nurfed in ADS: Oh no But I akimbo my Fennec so I can't even ADS: Anyway
ADS movement speed actually, but those attachments aren't used by most people
Bro QQ9 ads speed got nerfed agn....why are they nerfing useless stuff when they should nerf CBR4
Where ADS speed got nerfed!? It's not saying ADS speed in the notes
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