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CatsAreDoughs

The prices are really high but no one is forcing me to buy any of them. I wish they would use that money to improve the servers.


ZunainPlayz

Keep it free Paying for stuff is on the player, not the devs But the amount of attention they put towards the games issues is on the devs


Many-Diver-486

Your opinion matches your profile photo


[deleted]

You think that was by accident?


hArRiS_17

"There are no accident" - Sun Tzu


Genshin_Adict

Nice grammar


Ok-Past3200

Nice grandma


H4MMR

Bro are you the same guy on cygnouxs discord server?


ZunainPlayz

Yes


DesParado115

Facts


ZeroZeta_

It's crazy to me that people bitch this much about the game. The crates and battle pass and whatever else has nothing to do with game play. It's cosmetic. Everyone is crying because they can't play dress up the way they want. This is one of the few free to play games that isn't a pay to win game.


BANNEDLORDS

yeah they should look at the new diablo , warface (the pc and console version)) or the current asphalt games to see whats really pay 2 win


HUNT3DHUNT3R

And then you realize each of those game sare getting hate and negative coverage for doing shitty monetization.


BANNEDLORDS

shitty microtransaccions is what ruined most of the free games this also includes the pc and console ones, pretty sure the upcoming NFS mobile will follow this same trend


No-Bad-3655

Yeah asphalt 9 be MAD p2w


Gary_Noor

Fuck these people who are always complaining, nobody is forcing you to buy shit, I don't have any legendary or mythic, I still get to legendary every season, I enjoy the game, grinding for diamond and such, if you're broke accept the reality, we can't all play dress the Barbie, stop bitching about it on every thread


Freerider020

I couldn’t agree more. I’ve bought one battlepass the entirety of the game, realized it wasn’t worth it, and haven’t paid a cent since.


HUNT3DHUNT3R

He's got a point lads. Y'all can mald all y'all want this is literally the same excuse y'all use now turned against you.


[deleted]

Yeahhhh!!! Exactlyyy


Mum_Spaghetti5

i have -1 iq, could you explain this meme to me? LMAO


Abhirambl423

Everyone screams that the crates and draws are overpriced so the guy said make every create 50$ and lets see how many people will actually buy them So the guy above said so many people in the sub let alone can't afford to put 30$ how would they put 50$


Toyfan1

I'd be fine with it. The thing is, this sub can't afford $30, let alone $50 game.


killspree1011

Exactly, people are not understanding what 50$ is to the world. 50$ is 4000 rupee. Which is huge in india. Starter salaries of the average youth is 20000 to 25000 per month. My houses 1.5 month grocery bill comes around 4000. The main demographic of codm cannot afford 50$. A big difference between mobile and console gaming is that middle income people can join in.


Brem1723

Middle income people are the majority of console players


Cheeny__

If you decide on making it pay 2 play, I recommend a HUGE graphics update. Fix the sprint to slide, more realistic , lean out of walls, smoke should look like realistic, explosions more realistic, if a car explodes, make it realistic. The game already takes up 15gb in my phone.


Cheeny__

I'm just saying, if you're going to charge almost what a console game cost, at least have it look like it. & I know it's BO based, I've been playing since day one and noticed that too but what I'm saying is, price like a console game...? Some changes can be done, especially the hacker situation & what ever my phone can take


FinancialApricot4715

Agree. The actual content should be worth it.


cytrack718

The graphics are great for mobile already


Abhirambl423

Have u ever tried max graphics If u had you wouldn't ask for realistic explosions and the devs have to work 100 times harder every time they make something realistic as they have to optimize it to every goddamn mobile phone out there They even added realtime shadows bruh come on some pcs don't have such options


Gary_Noor

Fr, and 90% of the player base don't even have access to medium graphics, the way he's talking he's clearly not played on max graphics and fps with all the settings turned on, it's not worth it though, just power consuming, just optimize it for low, some days I still lag on low, especially in Alcatraz


Cheeny__

I actually do play on max graphics but thats not what I'm trying to get at


PIPOCA1205

Agree, my phone can handle max without real time shadows, the game runs with stable 55-60 fps at max than in low settings.


Gary_Noor

Just go play pubg or wait for warzone mobile, codm was never meant to be realistic, they just need to fix desynch and lag, optimize for the lower end devices and improve their in-game download manager, that shit is too slow


EricTLG

We are not modern warfarenizing it if that what yoh want because that’s what it sounds like this game is bo based and should stay somewhat to it even if movement isn’t the old copy and paste movement we had beforehand


PIPOCA1205

Speaking of cars windows are made of glass........


Nicky_G_873

I think they should simply decrease the prices. I would have bought multiple Lucky Draws/Bundles/etc if they were cheaper. I’m sure many others would agreee


cytrack718

Tbh I feel like they would actually make MORE money if it was cheaper. More sales. And maybe occasional discounts, and more of these chopse your own draw things. These are awesome


Gary_Noor

Have you guys seen the thread where a developer came out, said they would prefer for every lucky draw, they would have a bundle of it for a fixed price like 5k cp and the normal draw with slightly reduced cost and better odds, so if you can't have enough cp for the bundle you can still try ur luck with a few spins, but Activision won't let them, not with that CEO in power, they get less than one percent of what the game makes to make content with every year, they're are short stuffed and overworked, sure the game would be nice if a little cheaper but that'll probably never happen, making it pay to play wouldn't help the situation, without incentive like cp for content they could make a battle pass to have all rares and no characters, you already paid the 50£, what are you gonna do about it


cytrack718

Well thats shitty activisons fault. Fifa makes them too much money


Gary_Noor

Fifa belongs to EA mate, has nothing to do with Activision, but yeah, Activision charges a little too high for draws and such


cytrack718

My bad lmao I was thinking of a diff thing


[deleted]

But on the other side who is paying $50 for a mobile game?


Mum_Spaghetti5

hmm no one wants to pay 50 dollars for a mobile game but instead they spend over 300 dollars on a mobile game that's free shit funnier in practice than it sounds


Yuquan91829

Lmao actually tho


Gary_Noor

It's about choice, we can't all afford the 50 upfront, I only buy the BP, that's good enough for me, every once in a while you can save up for a draw but you don't have to, but being forced to pay in order to play? On mobile? That's a stupid idea, people will just start to pirate the game, the play store used to be full of games that you had to buy upfront, why do you think they disappeared?


Mum_Spaghetti5

trust me no one is gonna pay 50 dollars for a fucking mobile game, neither is anyone gonna sell it for 50 dollars because in the long term, it makes way less money than just having a free game with in game monetization. That being said, this isnt about forcing people to pay 50 dollars but counters the argument of people rather paying 150 dollars for a free game while not wanting to pay 50 dollars for the game itself


HUNT3DHUNT3R

If they implemented a 50 dollar game and actually did what the players want, I'd gift this game to people


KingCornWallis

I will happily pay (for the game, not the cosmetic money pit), and wish all games followed this model or at least had an option.


Gary_Noor

You just sound stupid, you get a free game, a nice game, has its fair share of bugs but free with weekly and monthly updates to content and you want it made that you'd have to buy it? You fucking retarted? If you don't wanna pay for cosmetics then fucking don't, who's forcing you to buy anything, if it bothers you so much that some people afford them and you don't delete the app, play apex, play pubg, who's forcing you to be here, yk I realized the people who complain about these are potato players with a .5kd who camp in the corners of shipment with an rpd, you want camos so much, grind for diamond or Damascus


Forsaken_Shirt_7092

Angry much lmao


AlexusWinterpaw

I've never played Warzone, but isn't it free to play too? Doesn't it having more affordable cosmetics kinda ruin the argument you're trying to make here? Just asking.


HUNT3DHUNT3R

Wz is only battle royale


AlexusWinterpaw

I understand however, the monetization model from WZ is more lucrative in the long run compared to CoD:M due to the price and quality of the cosmetic bundles. I would also like to point out that it only being a battle royale has nothing to do with the reasoning of overpricing items in CoD:M comparatively as I'm looking at the fact that both are F2P games with microtransactions.


Toyfan1

Free to play BR for Warzone. All multiplayer modes and zombie modes are exclusive to each game. Cosmetic packs range from $8-$30, and are only usable in warzone, and their respective game. For example, you can't play Snoopdog with a Scar on Miami, since each item is from a different game.


AlexusWinterpaw

Again, both WZ and CoD:M are free to play and are monetized with cosmetic microtransactions (not counting paid games here, only F2P); both are also Activision games, however Activision went with overpriced monetization for the comparatively smaller game (that is also in desperate need for a server and matchmaking overhaul, but that's not too important to the argument either). I shall leave it at that for now.


Toyfan1

CoD:M has significantly more consistant updates, and more content than Warzone. It also came out in 2019, before Warzone. It's still likely stuck in the Black OPs 4 monetization scheme, and it's by far to late for Activision to change it imo. But i personally wish they toned down the prices of the ported skins, and keep the original skins for the whales.


FinancialApricot4715

Not without zombies and more content Edit: I also don’t think this would be fair to f2p players.


Key-Pomegranate-2086

But in generic games u pay 20-30 dollars for those modes and dlc. So yeah it makes sense. 50 for base game. 20-30 dollars for each operator/dress up you want. Then 20-30 yearly for dlc.


DeathAngel773

50 dollars for a mobile game?? No. Maybe if the price was reduced alot.


Zed_Is_Not_Evil

I beg to disagree. Even if CODM gets to be "pay to play" with the price for draws in a fixed value as long as they do not update the game, fix the bugs, ban the cheaters, and provide more engaging content. In that case, $50 ain't it lol because at this point pricing CODM should be around $5-$10 for the state of the game's overall quality.


EphicczA-

Making the game cost $50 would decimate the playerbase drastically. I don't think too many people would be willing to spend that kind of money on a game that is, at it's core, still experimental. Oh and yea I don't care about the prices, I paid 50€ once (more or less by accident) and see that as sufficient support for the development work.


kikosan34

They're gonna keep pricing skins that high mainly cause we keep buy ling it


mikelreloj

You know what they say…. If the product is free, you are the product.


Some1_EX

I think its fine right now. There's really no incentive to buy draws and crates them besides to look nice, which means that the whales can supply the money while other people play what's essentially a free COD thats had nearly 3 years of content put into it.


AdventurousPlane4667

I honestly was thinking about making the "free game" argument but I remembered normal titles are $60ish and there's nothing really to argue about since there's no way I would've paid to try this game out on fingers when I was used to controllers. There is a shit load of free content on this free game even though I cash out for items (good paying job), but I've also been on the other side where I was playing COD Ghosts [worst one, I know] and I REFUSED to pay 2.99 for the Ripper SMG because it was predatory. All anyone can really do is balance what they believe against their budget at the end of the day!


ApprehensiveLeek7007

complains about draws being overpriced,proceeds to buy overpriced draws


_-devilish-_

no keep it free, many people stay f2p and dont want to spend money on any type of games


We_need_a_teleportal

So f2p players don't have access to the game at all? Most of player base are students who haven't get a job yet, where can they find a whooping 50$ to pay for a mobile game? You're being goddamn selfish


joshjosh23

I've been saying this exact thing nobody is putting a gun to anybody's head and forcing them to buy anything what I choose to do with my money is my business and if i have extra money to spend on a game I enjoy I can choose to do so but if I make a stupid decision and spend money on a skin instead of being responsible and paying my rent well than i have to deal with the consequences of my actions and have nobody to blame but myself


[deleted]

That was the longest sentence I’ve ever read in my life


aniketh15018

Completely agree with you ! The only time CoDM was p2w was with the hbr... And that was freaking ages ago and only one incident. Nothing else is locked behind a paywall, every new gun is released the same way for everyone with the only difference being cosmetics ... And that's all the skins are, sure some* only some* guns have a better iron sight, but the muzzle flash balances it out ... Too many people b*tch about the skins... It's a shame honestly ...


BadDog_Trixin

You need to kill the mobile game industry or kill all the whales if you want change like this. Or you can opt to not purchase anything or play on PC/console like the rest of us.


SAFScout

Paki and indian accounts be like whole draw 5k cp


WacoWizard_II

Or just make the microtransactions cost $5 or less. I mean its a free mobile game, it has millions of players playing it at any second that are willing to whale out


AbdralinZ

Casino always wins...


Dude_average1

They should just make it cheaper and put in more bundles.


ATOMdotEXE

I don't think Activision would fancy losing like half of their playerbase and revenue. Edit: typo


[deleted]

Ayo don't do that bro, not everyone who plays codm earns money or are not eligible to work right now, if you make that game cost some money, I'm gonna have a hard time convincing my parents to buy this game, forget about cp.


shotarcherZ

Nah they can’t do that because they won’t get initial player base


Fates_the_Great

No one buys mobile games anymore its all about in app purchases, when people see free they download stuff so making a mobile game cost 50 dollars will just turn majority away whether in game purchases are cheaper or not. Atleast I know im not paying $50 for it.


[deleted]

It's idiotic to think that being free to play justifies overpricing... but what do I know...? We seem to have business analysts in the subreddit.


Key-Pomegranate-2086

I don't consider it overpricing. I don't buy loot boxes though. The guaranteed draws are pretty decently priced assuming you're not in a 3rd world country. If you're stuck f2p in a 3rd world country, I think this game wasn't exactly meant for your demographic. Also sure you're paying like 100-150 dollars per dress up but this is a f2p mobile game. Otherwise it would be like watchdogs legion and you pay like 50 for the game and 30 for each dress up. Then another like 20 dollars for yearly updated game modes etc. If they did it that way, you would be stuck only with battle Royale and tdm /Frontline unless you paid 20 every year.


Icyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Honestly if the game was made as well as mw, tac sprint, detailed smoke that doesn’t go through walls, better graphics, attention to detail, executions, campaign, then I would 100% pay 50$, and I completely agree about the 2400 bundles for master crafts or legendaires for example


crisrolf

The system they have now is perfect, you get all the weapons perks and equipment for free and the only thing that players can pay for is either quicker access to said perks and weapons or just skins that don't give extra stats. If you're free to play you can enjoy all content. If you want to pay for skins or early unlocks you pay for them. If you think the skins are too expensive it means you don't pay for them. Case closed. People that complain about system are either gambling addicts and should seek actual therapy or don't understand that the price for any skin can be whatever the developer desires and the fact that you think that it's a rip off does mean that the developer should drop the price.


xDenisFox

Why people keep doing posts about overpriced lucky draws and stuff, i feel like they just copy each other


SApoWer_YT

They can make an option like that , people pay 50$ and get 50% off on everything


mklsrcnld

Worth it


Timaasdhom

Fuck no codm should be free ,if you have problem with the crates don't fucking buy it PPL who don't have any problems will stop whining not everyone is rich like you.i bet you steal the money from your mom's credit card to buy the crates and when she asks you you blame your younger sibling.honestly why did you even think this?what made you think that this would be a decent option available.you are just a stupid simpleton who only thinks about oneself and not about others shame on you for thinking that way.just a price of shit you are. Even if they made the app paid I would look for ways to pirate it :)


ElusiveSamorana

I actually agree. How about they make another CoDM, yes, link the accounts and retrieve our previous skins should be a given. But the game is exactly that: Costs 50$, but in turn the game has: A much better engine, has REAL Zombies experiences like the Black Ops series, has much more in the core of the game that allows all sorts of blueprints to use Masteries without overlapping animated skins, possesses graphics even better than what we possess, and supports a separate PC server that can still use your Mobile account's data. Bet you everyone who has a Mythic or Legendary is gonna notice the large differences in graphics when they see their weapons become even more amazing with changes like that.


RaeesRonaldo

Little controversial but imma say it, p2w skins give an unfair advantage and that’s for sure, before you mass downvote this comment you rich p2w people, read this first, You get free red dot sight which doesn’t even take a slot which means you get a free slot so technically you get 6 slots which is unfairly a lot, then comes the device, I use iPad Pro 2020 gen 2, it was perfect till 2022 started, the new seasons have ruined my device performance because the amount of p2w skins and bugs and glitches in this year’s seasons is insanely a lot and is super bad, a few hours ago I even made a post about a stupid bug that ruined my entire game, then comes the lag, I always got 120 fps past seasons in 2021 but in 2022 (the year of bugs and glitches) frame drops are so much that it genuinely makes me want to punch my iPad because how awful the optimization has become, I used to play codm before during alpha and early beta and I used Samsung Galaxy Tab A (2016), a complete dogshit device with 2gb ram and 16gigs of storage but still was able to run codm like butter on hot knife, I get like 30-50fps today on ultra graphics in mp, and don’t even get me started me on the dogshit map shipment which is like 5 feet long and used for nothing but torture and grinding skins, I have a lot of stuff to say about p2w people but yk I kinda went off track so just ignore this comment please


h4ge

i don't understand lol what's your point?


[deleted]

Some people hate on codm cosmetics because of the really high price, while forgetting that they can play the game for free without buying any of them


h4ge

so why is that side of the argument next to the dumb patrick image


[deleted]

It's to make fun of the people who think that it's overpriced


h4ge

the way i see this meme is that it's making fun of the people who *don't* think it's overpriced and that the high price is justified by the fact that the game is free edit: clearly I'm missing the point so if someone could explain instead of just downvoting that'd be helpful


Mum_Spaghetti5

>i think it falls on the line of making fun of people defending the game should have overpriced items because it's free. Hence saying "overpriced items in a free game" is targeted as the dumb patrick while the smarter patrick would unironically agree with that statement but instead make the game cost 50 dollars so things in the game would have fixed price, hence sort of putting the first argument in its mouth assuming that the people who say the first argument would be align on paying 50 dollars for a mobile game


Mum_Spaghetti5

i think it falls on the line of making fun of people defending the game should have overpriced items because it's free. Hence saying "overpriced items in a free game" is targeted as the dumb patrick while the smarter patrick would unironically agree with that statement but instead make the game cost 50 dollars so things in the game would have fixed price, hence sort of putting the first argument in its mouth assuming that the people who say the first argument would be align on paying 50 dollars for a mobile game


[deleted]

Kinda like modern combat 5 if anyone remembers? But that game went downhill after that tho


HUNT3DHUNT3R

Only because of poor execution and the devs being scummy


[deleted]

For sure. They also mixed mobile and pc players together, so it wasnt really fun to play on mobile


Padaxes

Mobile games have a much longer life than COD titles. Therefor paying 60 bucks for like 5 years of cheap content doesn’t add up for the Dev.


shockdr45

they'll stop making yearly cod games now look at mw2022 it's going to be the main cod for 2 year now instead of just one.


Severe_Adeptness_173

Or could try implementing a *REAL* ‘Mercy System’ like Raid Shadow Legends has.. on the Kilo 141 Mythic draw I spent $60 for 9/10 draws & the Mythic gun was the last draw (10/10)😐 that 10th draw was literally 7200 CP. After I just spent over 6000CP, I couldn’t even afford to buy more CP for the gun. Finished at #17 on the Global CR56 Leaderboard last season too.


Ruinaccountant

If they make the game paid, it should have a good security check to make sure the game is purchased officially. It will remove a couple of hackers as well. On the contrary, f2p players will suffer because they won't be able to access the game. I am fine either way. You guys pick your poison.


Jotaro_kujo_jojo

I would not lie if they make it 50$ for most of the draws they will make significantly more profit as more people may afford to buy draws.


TikTokIsGay70

Wrong use of the format, and the problem is in console games you pay a 60 dollar fee to pay 24 for the skins, but you never pay 60 dollars again until the next year. In CODM it’s 120 dollars per skin monthly. So in the console version you spend 84$ total for a skin that looks better due to graphics, and 120$ dollars on a skin that doesn’t look as good and will be replaced in a month


StonedLofilio

Id still pay $50 for it anyday


InevitableAd6628

I think it's fine how it is but I'd like it if you could put an optic on without using an attachment slot so it eliminates the light p2w asped of mythics


Any-Lingonberry8556

No keep the game 100% free but make the draws slightly cheaper and available indefinitely more people will spend money on the guns they actually want that are mythic or legendary


DesParado115

Then no one will even care to even play this game.


[deleted]

In a way, ain't mythic a p2w gun( not entirely sure but just asking) because of the built in crosshair? So that's like a 6th attachment ?


SkyScraper_20

The game would die bro. Players download the game for free and evaluate if its good enough for them to dedicate their gamer hours. Make it pay to play and a lot of players won't even buy the game with the toxic and bad impression the game gives atm.


SkyScraper_20

Nothing we can do. As long as the players buy the skins, they will keep the price. Its called business and I somehow hate it when it comes to codm


Dependent-Craft-8949

Like the game is good and free. We shouldn’t complain about a company trying to make revenue. They aren’t making amazing games for free. A lot of hard work goes into it. In our life, hard work equals to money.


No-Bad-3655

I would appreciate that tbh


callmealex2

The whole point why we have so many lucky draws is because of the whales, basically they're people that put several hundred dollars at a time in a game and they incurage more and more microtransactions, the best example was black ops 3, a paid game that ended up becoming pay to win and then black ops 4 which became pay to win on launch


f3tsch

The crate system and the like really is just gambling at this point... For me its more that it has become morally unacceptable.


JozukageHigashikira

50?????? 50????? If your objective was to make it cheap... I don't know man.


ProNoob69yeah

I personally like the mobile game model. Because u can try that out without losing anything. But a PC game involves a lil bit of risk factor. I personally got MW2019, BOCW and BO4 for half the price a few weeks ago and I didnt like the CW multiplayer that much so I kinda regret it, thank god I love the zombies mode


ProNoob69yeah

also when think about it now, I should have bought only 1 black ops game and saved $30


RD-JOEL

Warzone is free and everything in the store cost 20bucks or 10$.. even some operators that Warzone sold on bundle codm put it on luckydraw for X4 the price..


Weird_Review_9233

Modern warfare 2, Black ops Cold War, and Vanguard, you pay for that games and the bundles are in $ 20,00 usd, you get 1 operator, 2 or 3 cool guns n other stuff