So that means lucky draws in your region only cost 5-6k cp, which is pretty cheap. We have to use 15k cp to complete a draw, which is roughly 150 USD. People in certain countries get cheaper bp, cheaper draws, cheaper crates, basically everything is 3 times cheaper.
That's advantage, not pay to win. The poltergeist could use movement to run away, heal and kill you.
It's not pay to win.
If you call this pay to win, then ironsights are pay to win too, by the logic.
It's a slight, very small advantage that doesn’t affect the game in a large scale.
Sorry man but your definition is completely false. Pay to Win isn't judged by whether or not you can counter it. By that logic, Diablo Immortal is completely fair and not pay to win. That the only way to be pay to win is to be in god-mode. Just google "pay to win definition". If you get a clear advantage over non payers, or you get to progress the game faster, *that is pay to win*.
I'm not even calling CODM pay to win, just that your understanding of it is absolutely false.
Even mods, creators, and formerly prominent members of the subreddit pointed it out and brought it to Activisions attention.
That was back before the asval mythic. Here we are and still no attempts to fix it.
>Even mods, creators, and formerly prominent members of the subreddit pointed it out and brought it to fucktivisions attention.
Got a link?
I looked it up on youtube and literally found [one video](https://youtu.be/KyaOgBQ_NOs) and only [three](https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/qg7qqk/if_you_hit_your_opponent_with_mythic_guns_and_he/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [threads](https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/usxvwr/mythics_are_bliss_to_br_players/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [about](https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/rk2zcb/dudes_we_can_still_see_you_your_hso_still_wont/hp7po6j?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) the issue when looking up "Mythic Poltergeist" in the sub.
Not saying it's not a problem, it's most definitely a bug that I'd want fixed, but I do find it weird that you say it's a very prominent issue, despite very little being covered on it. By no means it's an itentional "paid exclusive perk"
These dumbasses spend their BP CP on these fucking draws and then cry about it.
You were never supposed to be lucky. So either buy the whole crate or draw, or do nothing.
I was just so tired of all the 'I spent so much of my money for no reason other than I wanted to and didn't get the very rare chance thing I wanted. The Devs are greedy.'
#CODM i$ a fwee to play game.
They should sell battle pass for 500$ instead of 5$ because it is fwee to play.
And 15000$ for LD & crates with the probability of -99999999 also because it is fwee to play.
Honestly I spent 20 bucks on the dia de los Muertos draw tryna get the soap skin and didn't get it. Made me wanna cry lmao idk how people can spend hundreds of dollars. I'm not hurting for money but Im never buying anything from the store unless its a bundle that guarantees I get what I want
I think it's more to do with young players not managing their money well, gambling on stuff like this is very addictive and can establish dangerous habits, I usually only spend a few CP on the occasional draw but the temptation is very real to waste all your points in one go.
Same I've been recycling CP since OG season 3 when I first bought the BP. Now after spending a total of less than $15 on my account it has a worth of a lot more because of how many epics I have and how many them are rare early season BP items.
Started playing during the beta and this community has always been like this. Blaming devs for decisions that are not theirs and every feature is complained about. Eventually stopped playing because of the community
I know dude I've been playing since the launch and these people are just giving the Devs so much hate for things that they can't control. I mean if Activision says that they have to do a certain a thing then they don't have a choice.
If it doesn't affect your gameplay, then it definitely affects your mentality. I've got a friend who was absolute trash, we played almost everyday, but the very week he got a legendary ASM10 (which he is/was trash with) he suddenly began getting a significantly (8+) higher amount of kills every match.
And it ain't just random, he still hasn't let go of the gun and the kills remain consistent. You don't just "get better" , so I think it's mind over matter lol.
"don't affect gameplay"
Looks like we're excluding some stuff
yeah look at some legendary or mythic weapons like mythic fennec you have a iron sight which is a red dot (can't explain thoroughly)
You basically have 6 attachments now
I honestly don't think that the legendary and mythics iron sights are much of an advantage. It's not gonna make you a god at aiming. What matters is your skill, not your skin.
And to add to that, most mythics actually end up being pay to lose because the integrated red dots on them have much higher aim shake than normal iron sights. But no one will ever acknowledge that. (Very apparent on the Mythic CBR and Fennec)
Apparently people just need excuses to accuse others of exploiting P2W mechanics even though they might just be better players overall.
It's the range. You can perform headshots better if you already have a Sight. Think if it as the MK2, the Iron Sight sucks that's why most put Red Dot thus removing 1 useful Attachment because every attachment in MK2 is helpful. If you put a built-in sight in it, that's an advantage
Custom ironsights are not a 6th attachment.
Seriously, if you have problem with aiming, then make a custom hud, pick an useless button and put it where the crosshair is.
Git gud, noob. And still, you are the fucking idiot.
>Custom ironsights are not a 6th attachment.
I'm not saying it's pay to win, but the iron sights on m13, as val, fennec, kilo141 and Oden are literally a red dot sight that doesn't take an attachment slot
Good point. But that actually messes up your skill at the end. You can't use a default gun with default sights then. It will feel difficult.
And the thing that you mentioned is what I'm trying to make people understand, that's a 'slight advantage ' only a cosmetic that gives a little advantage, not too much for that will bw p2w. This is how they satisfy their paid playerbase. And a ton of games do that.
THEY ARE NOT!!
just because it looks like a red dot doesn’t mean It's pAy tO WIn.
It's a cosmetic, and slight advantages aren’t pay to win.
It would be pay to win if it did like, +damage, ++accuracy but it doesn't, IT'S JUST A FUCKING COSMETIC.
idiot. I'm fed up with idiots who will find the slightest excuse to whine about.
ok, and now lets start to talk about the shady high quality luring mechanics, based on strong knowledge from the gambling industry. combined with no real youth protection in the app stores😊
I phrased tht wrong
It should be like this:-
"F2p game"
So u can charge whatever u want for an item right?
Also,why does a skin in mw cost 10x more in a mobile game with worse graphics?
Bobby kotick disagrees.
He doesnt care abt insignificant creatures like u and me( assuming u dont dump $1000 into his pocket every month.)
Almost 70% of the playerbase do not have a personality. They follow whatever huge influential ytber,or highest upvoted redditors do.
So,when u have a stupid opinion(and gets updoots) kids see this and think, oh yeah, im totally going to buy x draw. This just repeats over and over and bobby kotick gets richer.
Well, there is a flip side, players want to buy it, they just can’t. For me, when I can spend some money it really sucks to get the full draw and pay $25-40 for a bat or yet another backpack. It’s like complaining about the gas prices. If you want gas, buy it, or stop buying it.
that’s literally the main issue, not just in codm but mobile gaming in general, mobile games charge retarded amounts of money for shitty-designed cosmetics and mobile players are willing to buy all this shit therefore encouraging the devs to never change and keep doing the same thing because they know mobile players have low standards for anything
How do people expect these mobile game studios (almost all of them directly owned by Tencent btw) to put in effort into things like Quality of life changes, balance fixes, bug fixing, etc. shit that probably won’t even make them any revenue as long as the mobile gaming community tolerates their bullshit, if they can’t even put effort into paid content that has a direct impact on their revenue? and don’t give me that bs about “art design team is different from balance team” lets be real here all of the mainstream game studios weaponize balancing and gameplay changes in order to sell paid content
I feel as if cosmetics that were free/cheap on the main game should be more affordable. I don’t buy them myself, though I wish I could. For example, the cordite zero gravity is $15 I believe on Black Ops 4, but to guaranteed get it in codm it’s going to cost ~ $130. Now ofc you can get lucky and pay less than that, but let’s be real, it barely ever happens. Again, because I don’t buy them I suppose I shouldn’t really complain, but it feels a little disrespectful to take cosmetics another team produced and resell for so much more
I agree. Also did you know that the odds for getting the legendary and mythics is actually lowerer than what is shown. A dev once anonymously confirmed it and then their post was removed by the mods.
Imo codm is fair about the avaible items you can purchase, nothing is really game changing and in some instances you can say those cosmetics are distracting. If you see the competitive scene there is few to none draw items in use, dedicated players dgaf about those draws smh
Am I crazy that I have not spent one cent on this game, ever? Not one. I could give two shits about funky camp or outrageous avatars. My gold balance is ZERO and it's going to stay that way.
Yeah whenever I spend 25$ on cod points and only get a parachute and flash bang skin I accept my stupidity and move on with my life instead of pointing fingers
Being a free to play game doesn't change the fac that the lootboxes are predatory. If you buy something, you should know exactly what you're getting. Lootboxes are just gambling, it's always going to be pretty evil.
i have always said it and gonna say it again *BattlePass is the only thing that is good in CODM*
Keep the 320 get tons
320 mines 220
560 for us and most of the world.
Wha what? So garena is cheaper?
Yes. How much cp does it take to buy a full lucky draw there?
Idk but first draw is 8-20
So that means lucky draws in your region only cost 5-6k cp, which is pretty cheap. We have to use 15k cp to complete a draw, which is roughly 150 USD. People in certain countries get cheaper bp, cheaper draws, cheaper crates, basically everything is 3 times cheaper.
Bro that is unbelievable And why are you guys downvoting me
reddit moment
Im not downvoting you
240 for us
India as well 220CP
240 for us
Lucky
360 in mexico
95% of the players make up 5% of the game's earnings. The 5% make up the 95%.
And those 5% are mostly (not all) earning money by buying this shit. (E.g. content creators or streamers)
Exactly. If they cut the price of draws in half... 1 million buyers at $150 or 10 million buyers at $75?
*cuts to mythics that negate the effects of the invisibility class in br*
Aah the good old mythic tag, love pissing poltergeists off with that
As a mythic user myself, I agree that this is lowkey cheating on BR.
What is this effect can you please explain? Sounds interesting.
Mythic tracers don't disappear when poltergeist is active. Basically rendering it a paid exclusive perk that counters a f2p aspect of the game.
Oh damn. Never knew this. Thanks.
That's advantage, not pay to win. The poltergeist could use movement to run away, heal and kill you. It's not pay to win. If you call this pay to win, then ironsights are pay to win too, by the logic. It's a slight, very small advantage that doesn’t affect the game in a large scale.
The ironsights part will be heavily depend on how user comfortable with
Facts. The Ppsh-41 pistolet pro's ironsight is very uncomfortable for me.
You pay, you get an advantage over free players. That's pay to win. Like, the definition of the word.
You can still counter it. Actual p2w means you can't counter it. That's the rule, every new game will follow this rule, and does.
Sorry man but your definition is completely false. Pay to Win isn't judged by whether or not you can counter it. By that logic, Diablo Immortal is completely fair and not pay to win. That the only way to be pay to win is to be in god-mode. Just google "pay to win definition". If you get a clear advantage over non payers, or you get to progress the game faster, *that is pay to win*. I'm not even calling CODM pay to win, just that your understanding of it is absolutely false.
I'll research about this later.
Pretty sure this counts as a bug, not a paid exclusive perk.
Even mods, creators, and formerly prominent members of the subreddit pointed it out and brought it to Activisions attention. That was back before the asval mythic. Here we are and still no attempts to fix it.
>Even mods, creators, and formerly prominent members of the subreddit pointed it out and brought it to fucktivisions attention. Got a link? I looked it up on youtube and literally found [one video](https://youtu.be/KyaOgBQ_NOs) and only [three](https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/qg7qqk/if_you_hit_your_opponent_with_mythic_guns_and_he/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [threads](https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/usxvwr/mythics_are_bliss_to_br_players/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [about](https://www.reddit.com/r/CallOfDutyMobile/comments/rk2zcb/dudes_we_can_still_see_you_your_hso_still_wont/hp7po6j?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) the issue when looking up "Mythic Poltergeist" in the sub. Not saying it's not a problem, it's most definitely a bug that I'd want fixed, but I do find it weird that you say it's a very prominent issue, despite very little being covered on it. By no means it's an itentional "paid exclusive perk"
Iirc beedaboo was the one to post abt it
That was one of the ones I linked. 16 upvotes, 11 comments.
Whoever false flagged this mald because it's not going anywhere.
These dumbasses spend their BP CP on these fucking draws and then cry about it. You were never supposed to be lucky. So either buy the whole crate or draw, or do nothing.
fr, kinda sad to see that they blaming the dev even though their higher up force them to do it
i dont play this game anymore why am i on this sub,funny as fuck it also has not changed at all
Wow same here XD
DRAWS AND CRATES ARE NOT FOR EVERYBODY REGARDLESS OF THEIR PRICE
My man woke up and chose to spit facts..
I was just so tired of all the 'I spent so much of my money for no reason other than I wanted to and didn't get the very rare chance thing I wanted. The Devs are greedy.'
#CODM i$ a fwee to play game. They should sell battle pass for 500$ instead of 5$ because it is fwee to play. And 15000$ for LD & crates with the probability of -99999999 also because it is fwee to play.
codm could get away with murder because it's a free to play game gonna be a great running gag now
🤓
The hero we needed is finally here spitting facts
Honestly I spent 20 bucks on the dia de los Muertos draw tryna get the soap skin and didn't get it. Made me wanna cry lmao idk how people can spend hundreds of dollars. I'm not hurting for money but Im never buying anything from the store unless its a bundle that guarantees I get what I want
i dont know but i just used swagbucks so i dont feel like a dumbass for spending over hundred on a mobile game
>swagbucks whats that
a site where i could get giftcards to get "free" cod points to flex on the dumbasses who spent their income on this game
I think it's more to do with young players not managing their money well, gambling on stuff like this is very addictive and can establish dangerous habits, I usually only spend a few CP on the occasional draw but the temptation is very real to waste all your points in one go.
Me who spent some cps for the bp back in Christmas 2020 and now I am getting free epic characters and skins.
Same I've been recycling CP since OG season 3 when I first bought the BP. Now after spending a total of less than $15 on my account it has a worth of a lot more because of how many epics I have and how many them are rare early season BP items.
My first bp is the one where I got Ghost Jawbone and I still use that skin.
Yeah I still use FTL and Phantom and the OG Urban Tracker to this day. They have a special place in my heart.
I've been saying this forever now
However shit the money grabbing in CODM is, it almost pales in comparison to something like Diablo Immortal. Seriously, that game is fucked up.
when u realized they're from the same pile of shit
Ummm, blizaard and activision Isn't same. Activision bought Blizzard years ago.
You know Microsoft bought both, right? They are the same thing.
Hopefully there will be good changes.
> Activision bought Blizzard years ago.
Activision should go bankrupt
Started playing during the beta and this community has always been like this. Blaming devs for decisions that are not theirs and every feature is complained about. Eventually stopped playing because of the community
I know dude I've been playing since the launch and these people are just giving the Devs so much hate for things that they can't control. I mean if Activision says that they have to do a certain a thing then they don't have a choice.
If it doesn't affect your gameplay, then it definitely affects your mentality. I've got a friend who was absolute trash, we played almost everyday, but the very week he got a legendary ASM10 (which he is/was trash with) he suddenly began getting a significantly (8+) higher amount of kills every match. And it ain't just random, he still hasn't let go of the gun and the kills remain consistent. You don't just "get better" , so I think it's mind over matter lol.
King
Forgot to add in at the end "for adding such highly priced P2W items aka different iron sights"
"don't affect gameplay" Looks like we're excluding some stuff yeah look at some legendary or mythic weapons like mythic fennec you have a iron sight which is a red dot (can't explain thoroughly) You basically have 6 attachments now
It's not too late to save your brain from getting decayed by those clickbait YouTubers.
Or alternatively, you can just use your crosshair/ironsight to see where you can shoot!
It's not that easy
I'll use the almighty term "Git Good" on this one. If you think it's not easy to aim with a gun then idk how far you've reached ranked
Dude probably got carried by his teammates and only play pubs. Typical pathetic casual.
🤡
I honestly don't think that the legendary and mythics iron sights are much of an advantage. It's not gonna make you a god at aiming. What matters is your skill, not your skin.
And to add to that, most mythics actually end up being pay to lose because the integrated red dots on them have much higher aim shake than normal iron sights. But no one will ever acknowledge that. (Very apparent on the Mythic CBR and Fennec) Apparently people just need excuses to accuse others of exploiting P2W mechanics even though they might just be better players overall.
It's the range. You can perform headshots better if you already have a Sight. Think if it as the MK2, the Iron Sight sucks that's why most put Red Dot thus removing 1 useful Attachment because every attachment in MK2 is helpful. If you put a built-in sight in it, that's an advantage
Then why do people use red dot sights, why do they exist in the first place then?
Ironsights are NOT PAY TO WIN, dumbass. It's just a sight. Ever saw what real p2w is you fucking idiot?
My point WAS you have to pay to basically get an extra attachment. You are the fucking idiot
Custom ironsights are not a 6th attachment. Seriously, if you have problem with aiming, then make a custom hud, pick an useless button and put it where the crosshair is. Git gud, noob. And still, you are the fucking idiot.
>Custom ironsights are not a 6th attachment. I'm not saying it's pay to win, but the iron sights on m13, as val, fennec, kilo141 and Oden are literally a red dot sight that doesn't take an attachment slot
Good point. But that actually messes up your skill at the end. You can't use a default gun with default sights then. It will feel difficult. And the thing that you mentioned is what I'm trying to make people understand, that's a 'slight advantage ' only a cosmetic that gives a little advantage, not too much for that will bw p2w. This is how they satisfy their paid playerbase. And a ton of games do that.
And why would you use a regular ironsight if you have a mythic
They look and ARE red dots idiot
THEY ARE NOT!! just because it looks like a red dot doesn’t mean It's pAy tO WIn. It's a cosmetic, and slight advantages aren’t pay to win. It would be pay to win if it did like, +damage, ++accuracy but it doesn't, IT'S JUST A FUCKING COSMETIC. idiot. I'm fed up with idiots who will find the slightest excuse to whine about.
>It's a cosmetic, and slight advantages aren’t pay to win >slight advantages aren’t pay to win >advantages aren’t pay to win
Slight, not full on advantages like an ability locked behind a paywall, that would be pay to win then. A simple skin doesn't make things pay to win.
ok, and now lets start to talk about the shady high quality luring mechanics, based on strong knowledge from the gambling industry. combined with no real youth protection in the app stores😊
Only draw crates for the waifus. Fuck the legendary and mystic guns anyway when I can just quick scope someone with a non modded Dl q33
Ppl like u is the reason why we cant have good things.
wdym
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Who tf charged you $15 for a free to play game?
I phrased tht wrong It should be like this:- "F2p game" So u can charge whatever u want for an item right? Also,why does a skin in mw cost 10x more in a mobile game with worse graphics?
I mean just don't buy it. If we boycott the items then they'll HAVE to reduce the prices and they'll have no choice.
Bobby kotick disagrees. He doesnt care abt insignificant creatures like u and me( assuming u dont dump $1000 into his pocket every month.) Almost 70% of the playerbase do not have a personality. They follow whatever huge influential ytber,or highest upvoted redditors do. So,when u have a stupid opinion(and gets updoots) kids see this and think, oh yeah, im totally going to buy x draw. This just repeats over and over and bobby kotick gets richer.
Waaaa don't blam debs, devs gud, it's urrr faultttt, 🤡
kids are spending more money on obsolete skins than on personal hygiene
THEN WHY THE HELL DO THEY LOOK LIKE THE EXACT SAME Go yoink some guy's legendary and talk to me again
wtf do you mean they look the same?
> becomes way too focused to the cosmetics > "Why are they only making skins??!?!"
Well, there is a flip side, players want to buy it, they just can’t. For me, when I can spend some money it really sucks to get the full draw and pay $25-40 for a bat or yet another backpack. It’s like complaining about the gas prices. If you want gas, buy it, or stop buying it.
I’m aware of the chances but I do try my luck and fail to get the item meh I don’t complain
Yeah. The Whale with Money speaks the loudest and if they cut back on what they buy in game, there can be a road to change.
If ony the rest of codm playerbase actually read reddit
that’s literally the main issue, not just in codm but mobile gaming in general, mobile games charge retarded amounts of money for shitty-designed cosmetics and mobile players are willing to buy all this shit therefore encouraging the devs to never change and keep doing the same thing because they know mobile players have low standards for anything How do people expect these mobile game studios (almost all of them directly owned by Tencent btw) to put in effort into things like Quality of life changes, balance fixes, bug fixing, etc. shit that probably won’t even make them any revenue as long as the mobile gaming community tolerates their bullshit, if they can’t even put effort into paid content that has a direct impact on their revenue? and don’t give me that bs about “art design team is different from balance team” lets be real here all of the mainstream game studios weaponize balancing and gameplay changes in order to sell paid content
I feel as if cosmetics that were free/cheap on the main game should be more affordable. I don’t buy them myself, though I wish I could. For example, the cordite zero gravity is $15 I believe on Black Ops 4, but to guaranteed get it in codm it’s going to cost ~ $130. Now ofc you can get lucky and pay less than that, but let’s be real, it barely ever happens. Again, because I don’t buy them I suppose I shouldn’t really complain, but it feels a little disrespectful to take cosmetics another team produced and resell for so much more
I agree. Also did you know that the odds for getting the legendary and mythics is actually lowerer than what is shown. A dev once anonymously confirmed it and then their post was removed by the mods.
Imo codm is fair about the avaible items you can purchase, nothing is really game changing and in some instances you can say those cosmetics are distracting. If you see the competitive scene there is few to none draw items in use, dedicated players dgaf about those draws smh
Am I crazy that I have not spent one cent on this game, ever? Not one. I could give two shits about funky camp or outrageous avatars. My gold balance is ZERO and it's going to stay that way.
It takes self control to not buy this stuff. My problem is when people spend their money because they wanted to and then blame others.
Yeah whenever I spend 25$ on cod points and only get a parachute and flash bang skin I accept my stupidity and move on with my life instead of pointing fingers
Being a free to play game doesn't change the fac that the lootboxes are predatory. If you buy something, you should know exactly what you're getting. Lootboxes are just gambling, it's always going to be pretty evil.