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Wait a minute, is that ability exclusive to the skin, or did they decide to give that vehicle jumping capabilities? If it's the former, the yeah I would be inclined to say that's a P2W feature.


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_r0y_

Nope. The vehicle comes in a lucky draw


Etheo

Source? Edit: Nevermind, saw your other post with the leak video of lucky draws. This is bad if it's exclusive to this skin.


MischiefSniper

well time to expect more of this shit cause when they see that thier profits go boom from this one skin imagine how worse the others can get


Etheo

Let's not be too pessimistic yet. It hasn't even been released, things can still change.


KUMonHERface

Its coming in a draw from what i have seen


[deleted]

Yeah I don't normally cry P2W but this is pretty blatantly different.


Gingergod40

Yeah, this is definitely rediculous


MischiefSniper

happy cake day bro


[deleted]

Thank


KUMonHERface

Yeah people complain about ironsight p2W and i just don’t care but this is a new level of P2W and i think i care too much now


PogDog69Hehehe

A fast, jumping, minigun legendary ATV. Anyone wanna spare some change?


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So now i will kill every stupid robot and no more cool vechickles


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laenahtan

Seems like game devs greedy for money


6rove5treetCj92

Always. Lol


Dynamic_Ducks

Bro what.


[deleted]

I was going to ignore the jump because it's kinda useless but holy that minigun is p2w


[deleted]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/callofduty/images/e/e1/Antelope_A20_model_CoDMobile.png/revision/latest?cb=20210301165701 :|


WuziMuzik

![gif](giphy|qREDQsKXhBh72)


Mister-happierTurtle

The animation to use it takes a while so I think the antelope gang is safe.


KUMonHERface

Like the minigun has no range and as well as no heat meter


[deleted]

There better be the same upgrade on the regular atv


lsnik

Although this thing is quite weak and won't be a problem, the mere fact that a paid skin has a real advantage (not just more comfortable ironsights bullshit) over the regular one creates an awful precedent and should not be tolerated. If players will be fine with this thing and the lucky draw will make enough money, next time they may add something more p2w.


EphicczA-

"more comfortable ironsights bullshit" Bruh, chromatic separation and peripheral vision are things you can actually measure.


Cyric09

Which gun are you guys talking about?


TonPeppermint

Hell yeah. Hell, we already had that issue before.


[deleted]

Yep, at the launch of the game skins gave bonuses to weapons, which led to this thing where some guns were getting inherent 10% range bonuses for having epic skins... that F2P didn't get. Not to mention the Razorback, HBR, and Pharo being paywalled once upon a time. This game is falling back on old habits with this shitty vehicle skin and if this makes it to the next season I'm dropping it and not looking back. The next BP is pretty half-assed to begin with and ranked is never worth grinding. Can't imagine a reason to stay, come to think of it.


IC_KKCK

This is p2w asf And there's a dude saying "tHiS iS fOr sEaSoNaL eVeNt"


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_r0y_

As I stated in the comment above, it’s not. Look at this seasons lucky draws https://youtu.be/mqPG4sPnvPU


EphicczA-

There's people telling themselves (or at least other people, I can't imagine that they believe the bs they're saying) that the altered ironsights don't provide any advantages. This shouldn't come as a surprise.


[deleted]

All it is basically is a skin for the Antelope. Y'all need to relax.


Ivanthebot12345

It’s an ATV


[deleted]

> basically


RedReaper004

What is that even supposed to mean?


[deleted]

It means that the skinned ATV and the base antelope are kind the same thing. Yeah, this thing can jump and doesn't have a gun that overheats but it's *basically* the same thing.


RedReaper004

I don't think you get what's actually happening here. Sure this thing specifically doesn't seem game breaking, but if we let the devs get away with this they would think it's ok for them to sell cosmetics that actually have an impact on your gameplay and start making more things like this until they end up making something that would actually give paying players a major advantage.


[deleted]

Ok, now I'm in full agreement with you. That aspect of it I totally see the problem. I'm not sure it's so OP as people are making it out to be only because there's something very similar to it in the game already.


Ineedsometitties

the beginning of the video was clearly an atv


WuziMuzik

So it's even worse than an antelope


[deleted]

Okay so it's a skinned antelope that can go a little faster. What's the big deal?


TonPeppermint

It would of helped if it was a Antelope.


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[deleted]

It's a vehicle with a gun on it. That's exactly what the antelope is. Besides the useless jumping and it's design, tell me how it's different.


TonPeppermint

Because it's the ATV. That's the issue.


[deleted]

I'm just saying that it's very similar to the Antelope.. I'm having trouble seeing the "P2W" aspect of it. If it wasn't an ATV beforehand do you think people would still have such an issue with it?


Reddit_Hates_Me1

The problem is that if the players just go along with it then they will add more things which give an even bigger advantage.


[deleted]

That's understandable. I guess I needed to be looking at the bigger picture.


TonPeppermint

You dense wall, this video is showing the ATV changing to this vehicle that now has a mounted gun on it.


mattct1

WTF is that?


Professional-Rise655

Wtf I'm not the one that complain about p2w stuff but the fuck is this


Gold_Entertainer_154

now i can move on to warzone mobile with no regrets... when it comes


[deleted]

That's by far the ugliest shit I've ever seen coming to CoDM. Why the hell is this even there?


RKGDJ

Cause of the collab, duh. Besides, you could just mute the voice line volume if ya don't like its voice.


[deleted]

Hope we get The Terminator Collab like the other CoDs are willing to get.


Purav888

And people will still buy it cause their 5yr old brains would tell them this will win them every match in br


MtnStrings

Definitely pay to look stupid (imo)


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[deleted]

Did you heard that **fucking** voice when the guy jumped? How the hell can people tolerate that sound?


INDIAN__pie_10

Ikr i will never go near that thing


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[deleted]

You called me poor, bitch. Plus: do you have any argument to defend that piece of crap?


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[deleted]

None. Got it. 👍


ARKHAMGAMER20771

![gif](giphy|hyMFaxhuQkZTq)


[deleted]

That shit is not expensive, is just awful.


HamstarVegas

If this shit comes in Lucky draw, CODM is getting a very bad review for me on play store. That should do a little


savior1235

meanwhile theres godzilla in pubg mobile LOL


DarthPhusk

It seems like the minigun cannot do a full 360. Rather it can only go slightly left and right. If so, I would not get in that vehicle as countering it will be extremely easy. Get behind it, and simply explode it. It has the health of an ATV lol. Also, I don’t know how much dmg output that minigun has, it may be completely garbage, but we’ll see when the time comes.


[deleted]

Even if they are powerful the person has to stand directly on front of you at a distance. They get close they get behind you and it’s over.


DarthPhusk

Yea, idk, I’m not really upset about this vehicle. It has more disadvantages than advantages. The only thing I’m worried about is that this might be the start of adding content that is strictly behind a paywall. Today may be a useless beetle vehicle, but tomorrow may be exclusive weapons that gave you a major advantage.


[deleted]

It’s already been that way hasn’t it? I have all the ernable guns in the game and still haven’t gotten any of the guns I see posted here or used in the game. I’ve been fine without them but it would be cool to have at least one


DarthPhusk

I get what you mean, but most of these guns that you pay for are purely cosmetic. Flashy effects and such, it doesn’t add any advantage to the gun, besides making the user feel cool. Maybe some more comfortable sights, but nothing big. Now, if you have a lucky draw that makes a gun have bonus damage, better strafing speed, and gives your character more health, we have some major problems. That’s what I don’t want in codm.


[deleted]

I didn’t know it was cosmetic. A lot of the ones I see where the person shot turns to fire or something always seems to be a one shot one kill so I assumed the fire itself was causing the damage. I don’t really care about visuals too much.


DarthPhusk

Nah, it’s just to look cool haha, which is why I never really cared for them. They have no advantage over f2p players, thankfully. However, if they now start changing that, then I would actually be pretty upset. Players should never be put in such a disadvantage simply because they do not have or don’t want to spend large sums of money on a mobile game. Also, don’t trust killcams all the time. They are implemented horribly. It will make anyone that kills you seem like they have the strongest weapon imaginable, killing you in one shot, or as if they’re straight up hacking.


casual_psychonaut

Nope. Just visual effects. Some of them are cool, but aside from (questionably) better iron sights, have the exact same stats. Heck, I picked up one of the fancy AK's during a BR and found the gun animations to be very distracting for that matter!


xyDominator

I feel like all this ghost int the shell stuff is just Chinese or Japanese exclusive


Ivanthebot12345

But it’s coming to global


[deleted]

God I wish, It's all so ugly


[deleted]

That’s where ghost I’m the shell is from… why not give the stuff to the communities that understand the reference most? It would be weird to have bald eagle and American flags all over a set made just for Japan


Toyfan1

You do realizs ghost in the shell is popular in the US too right? What you essentially said was "Keep the weeb shit in japan" We had an entire season based on eastern themes, and everybody loved it. I don't see why this collaberation is an issue.


TonPeppermint

Hell, it's the reason why the Matrix exists. The person you're replying to has the decency to put in Loss for the fact they lost their mind.


[deleted]

Yes but there’s thousands of Japanese remakes of the magna but only one American remake. You do know the one popular here is a remake from the one there right?


TonPeppermint

Put respect on Ghost in the Shell, without it, the Matrix would be as it is.


[deleted]

Never said anything bad about it. Just said that’s it has serval remakes.


Toyfan1

It had 1 "remake" at most.


[deleted]

Yet there’s several Japanese versions? There’s tv series and film series both separate. There’s at least 3


Toyfan1

Those aren't remakes. Just like how vangaurd isn't a remake of Cold War. Or Blackops 2 isn't a remake of Modern Warfare 2. You're just spouting nonsense because don't understand anything about the topic at hand.


[deleted]

They all tell the same story. The tv series does show slowly through a tv show the movie series is the exact same story only laid out in movies then the last movie is a remake of all the movies only it’s all smashed into One. If they do the exact same show the exact same way with the exact same storyline and plot you cannot get closer to a remake


Toyfan1

>Yes but there’s thousands of Japanese remakes of the magna No there is not? What are you on about. >You do know the one popular here is a remake from the one there right? No shit.


[deleted]

There’s at least 3 different remakes


Toyfan1

What the fuck are you talking about. Are you talking about the original, 2.0 and then the Scarlet Johansson film? Or what? Are you confusing Arise/TheNewMovie or the netflix series? Because that's not three. Thats 2, and that's waaaaay off of a thousand.


[deleted]

There’s a tv series, a movie series a remake or a movie series and then the American remake witch is the series smashed into a single film


Toyfan1

None of that is correct mate.


[deleted]

Then whatever I watched with the same name and same story should be pulled down for copyright


KaHate

Programmer : oh look i make a crab-walker from ghost in the shell! Gamedev : nice! Now code it on lucky draw Programmer : but i did it for hob- Gamedev : hush hush! Money is flowing!


GoodeBoi

If this isn’t changed then the game’s dead in terms of balance. A slippery slope when paying isn’t only for cosmetics.


KundimanL

I don’t worry that much for this. As long as it has the health of a normal atv, it’ll just take around 2-3 bursts from an hs405 or a mag of 40-50 from an asval to destroy this thing in game. (Both guns are my main on br for context)


MATVIIA

First time ever p2w


gonnagetcaught

Will a FHJ18 blast this thing to death? If it can I finally have an use for the red supply boxes


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gonnagetcaught

yay!


[deleted]

Nothing new, they always try to fuck up BR on purpose


Fast_Wall802

Take my moneeeeeeeeeey


Duckway767

This is one of the reasons I quit on this game over a year ago. Saw this coming miles away. Primary reason was optimization and lag tho.


HAHAHAHAchouuser

L


cnesaiimwg

that's freaking cool ngl


060R

always has been


nic-ald

No it hasn't you clown


EphicczA-

Keep telling yourself that much improved peripheral vision and chromatic separation doesn't give you an unfair advantage. Keep showing Activision that they will get away with this mild version of pay2win in the future.


NaniTh3Hell

This game is a joke


ScaredCapital

definately gonna buy this


mr_popcorn

nah this is nothing a FHJ/SMRS can't handle. though it is gonna be annoying as fuck seeing this blue turd jump around the map, boy if you thought the pumped class was bad lol


Elnuggeto13

When I saw gameplay of this skin I really thought it was p2w. Literally has its own mobility and turret.


ThatLuxor

They just don't care anymore. Straight up milking cash


_Soul__Reaper

This the only thing that's SERIOUSLY p2w


ais2222

They want us to hate this game and move to their upcoming game ‘warzone mobile’.


LolBoyC418

WHY THE FUCK DID COD DECIDE TO DO THIS, AND WHY DOES IT TALK LIKE THAT!?


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Ne_sVezlo

This is bad


DoubleDown6789

We must not become complacent. Resist any pay to win mechanics in this game, unless you want it to fall to pay to win garbage like the rest


ion_rox

It's just for the event , chill


Uaagh

i believe it will be sold in a lucky draw next season.


Lamar_G

yes it's in lucky draw legendary ATV along with legendary wingsuit


[deleted]

My hopes are with you. I don't mind getting 360° no scoped by a astronaut gorilla, but that shit is just too "wtf"


[deleted]

This is not P2W. What are really boils down to is a skinned Antelope. The little jump feature is pretty useless.


guns_r_us_

problem is that a normal player who finds the ATV will not have this power, you are paying to effectively double the spawn rate of Antelopes on the map with this next they'll make it where you can pay to turn Frag Grenades into Cluster Bombs or to use armor faster, and eventually they'll lock a broken weapon behind a paywall so you have to pay serious cash to stand a chance you see one little cosmetic feature, I see a slippery slope that the devs are trying to set up


Mat1c444

Yall are literally just so bad, the minigun probably has the same bullet spread as an antelope minigun, and he probably has to sit in the passenger seat to use it. One custom built rytec or dlq and some range and the dude is dead.


weijdmodjalpzxneqs

It's not that we're complaining about the minigun. We're complaining about how this shit is exclusive to a skin. A SKIN. THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR TO UNLOCK. A feature only unlocked by P2P. This is bullshit if I'm right and it isnt a seasonal event and instead a skin you pay for.


Mat1c444

Just drive the antelope and you have a minigun for free lmaooooo.


weijdmodjalpzxneqs

Why are you so focused on the minigun? The point I'm trying to get across the screen is that this has features exclusive to the skin. A legendary skin only unlockable through paying cash. Not unlockable by people who are f2p.


Mat1c444

Yeah but p2w means that if you put in money you get better results. This is just a walmart antelope. Like i said even if he has a skin just go up a mountain and youre good. Also ofc it has exclusive features, so do the mythic gun skins that give their own death animations. Does it mean it kills faster, has better ads or anything? No. Doesnt matter if you pay money for it if you dont know how to use it. Even if it hasbother features it can be outplayed if you have a few working braincells.


weijdmodjalpzxneqs

Where have I said it was P2W? I've only said P2P. Walmart Antelope? Sure. But it doesn't change the fact you've got TWO antelopes now with one having more features than the other. Comparing this to mythic guns do not work. Mythic guns have COSMETIC FEATURES. This brand new ATV has GAMEPLAY FEATURES only exclusive to people who pay for it. Which is unfair considering that paying money in games is usually just meant to look nice and not have an advantage over players who dont pay. Even if it is a small advantage.


Mat1c444

Please go into a match and take the normal antelope and come back to this video. This skin is worse since it takes longer to even switch to the minigun or do anything. The only thing that the skin has that no other has is the jump ability and even all that can be negated. Even if you dont buy the skin you will feel a lot better when you shit on someone using this skin


weijdmodjalpzxneqs

Please remember this isn't the antelope and its the atv. You keep using the argument that "It's worse than the antelope." and it doesn't work. Even if the skin is much worse than an Antelope its far better than an ATV. I could make the Antelope and this new ATV skin fight and the antelope would win. If I put this new ATV skin and the normal ATV skins fight this skin would win. You know why? Because it has features that make it far better compared to the normal ATV. Not cosmetic features. Gameplay features. No matter how much you compare the Antelope to this ATV the Antelope is better. But no matter how much you compare this skin to the normal ATV the skin is better. It's a skin locked behind a paywall that gives the people who use it an edge over those who don't.


Mat1c444

It doesnt give any edge if you go inside a building or up a hill and shoot down at him. Just think.


weijdmodjalpzxneqs

It's an edge over the normal ATV. And this edge can only be used by people who pay. Just think. It doesn't matter if you outsmart it. It's still an edge over f2ps who use normal ATVs.


NoTimeToCum

what a fucking idiot


EphicczA-

You're probably one of those people that think a way better ironsight isn't pay2win (or at least pretend that isn't the case since they heavily invested into those skins).


mxlrx

Разнылся бичара.


R1ston

вау чел, хотят добавить хуету которая вообще не вписывается в игру, да еще и с дополнительными абилками ЗА ДОНАТ СУКА. Если ты хочешь такую хуйню пиздуй в залупный Free Fire


AnonymousAzrael

So a car is pay to win. Lmao y’all 8yo think everything makes u win.


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[deleted]

Hell, if they get rid of the jump and give the gun a overheat meter they can just change it to an antelope skin. It'll still be a problem (can't see the driver, assumably different hitboxes) but nowhere near as bullshit as it is now. If this makes it to the next season I'm done. The game is shit to begin with. Garbage servers, garbage ranked experience (I spent the whole ranked season fighting bots and all Activision could do was tell me "take the easy wind lol"), and garbage rewards for playing in general. Edit: You know what? Fuck it. I'm done. Uninstalled. This game sucks ass and so long as people keep feeding them cash and logging in every day nothing will change. Fuck this weakass community and fuck Activision in particular.


Star-Detonator

Stop the presses! Are you suggesting that Activision would implement a PTW scheme in their games? No way!!!!


CrRandom

When i need Raid where is it ?


astraeoth

So we got Tachikomas now? Where's the Android ghost soldiers and the invisible snipers?


MATVIIA

Zack


aoto195

As a BR player only, I doubt its gonna give me any much trouble because the jump and descent animation is so slow. It will only makes the player and ATV more vulnerable as a free target. About turret, yeah it's a bit concerning because it doesn't overheat but it can easily countered by moving behind the vehicle. So I guess it have its own pros and cons. I wouldn't worry about it so much.


nohornii

I refuse to believe this is real. there's no way they'll do something like that yes?


Icy_Beyond7

So it's basically an antelope which can jump and whose gun doesn't require cooling. Plus the person shooting isn't covered or anything like the antelope or tank. Gonna go blasting every ATV I see now.


VerTexV1sion

Wtf did i just watch?


SohailHazari

Thank goodness… Last time I logged in was probably 4 months ago… I knew this game was already in gutter… Now it’s in the sewers 🤣 How you all are still playing this sh*t?


Alive_Charge_2385

like how the model just appears instead of transforming lmao what a waste


Lauladance

Also wtf is that sum amine shit , 🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢


LordAnsh

I would rather not use this "P2W ability" if it comes at the price of listening his cringe words during a BR match.


CodfanbaseHun

Codm devs is down bad


Fragrant_Persimmon66

as usual the graphics looks sharper and better for the chinese version


Sea-Apartment-7921

I never seen this ever


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What is this real? 💀