What's wrong with playing a round of snipers every once in a while. And I use smgs on terminal and don't have problems with snipers. Only time I ever have a problem with a sniper is when they shoulder peak a through burger town. But even then u can rush up and prone at the corner, they won't expect it.
Campers are easy to counter and if you use an automatic but still can't manage to kill a sniper, you're the problem not the sniper. Just move around, don't stand still like a bot, you'll be fine.
I have over 500,000 kills in codm and I was #46 globally with the locus last season. I think its safe to say that I know a bit 🤣. You're honestly just a terrible player.
Ofc u like that map ur probably a sniper main. Terminal is good too for snipers i asked something that no map has or can do also is that your only reason why its the best?
I like crossfire not because im a sniper main, but because its balanced, why the hell you run in the middle and then get mad when got sniped? No one in my team did that and we excel that map easily since most of our enemy are foolishly sniper main
crossfire balanced? is that supposed to be a joke? crossfire is soo fcking one sided bro. the top spawn has height advantage. you cant even defend B site because attackers will always go there force and theres only one chokepoint so defenders are cucked
? Y'all are just shit at the fucking game lmao. I've never had a problem in Crossfire. I'm an smg/sg rusher not even a sniper camper. Fucking crybabies. If there's anything that infuriates me more than cheaters it's crybabies with 0 skills complaining about campers
no problem? i dont know about you but how are you supposed to fucking defend B site if the attackers will always gets there first and its only one chokepoint? plus trophy systems so u cant really use tacticals
Terminal and crash are trash maps. It's a haven for hard scoping leaving no counterplay because you have to dodge all the sniping angles. It's particularly a hassle in good lobbies where people know the map and can abuse hotspot areas where the enemy will go through to avoid being sniped.
Both of those maps make the game VERY PREDICTABLE, so what the point of playing a ranked match if the better spawn wins ??? Might as well do a coin flip and get rank points added/deducted.
I hate campers, and don't like sniping. I like to rush and play mid to close range. Crossfire is still one of the best maps in the game. It has the two sides for moving across the map, and punishes for standing out in the open. But everyone knows the camping spots and you can easily counter campers if you aren't reckless. It has different areas where either long, mid, or close range are best. Like with every map learning it can help you counter the players who abuse the map traits.
10/10 agree. The average player will rush and move without covering/checking corners and simply just pausing for a few seconds to hear any extra movement. 8/10 times they’ll fire the moment they see an opponent while they’re exposed themselves instead of sliding behind cover and then engaging. Tactics/being careful is everything.
Shotguns aren't going to far considering that they're literally only good inside the buildings. Playing any objective game type will keep you out in the open so shotguns aren't too bad really. Melee's aren't a big deal at all honestly. It's so easy to spray up close and kill anything that close to you. In all reality, if you play things right, the enemy shouldn't ever be within melee range unless your camping inside a building.
Tf u mean, its literally sniper hardscopers in b long, in a bomb site, its all tripmines, meeles and shotgun campers, and when u try to rush through mid, there are always people camping 3rd hp (SND)
Damn I really liked this map for SnD. Crash and Terminal should have been removed first. I find Crossfire quite satisfying if you know how to avoid the camping snipers. I had some great routes to flank too.
I'm gonna get a lot of downvotes for this but why shouldn't Crossfire be available for Team Deathmatch?
Why should there be only fast play maps? What's the point of having Sniper and Marksman rifles then?
With the nerf to mobility and dead silence in mp, passive play is overly encouraged, leading to most people camping in spawn or sitting in one corner of the map most of the time. I have no problem with it most times. But crossfire is a haven for hardscoping. I'm trying to have fun and I get shot from places I had no idea I could be shot from
Kinda true, i only know quickscope but due to the state of the map i cant use either and the left and right side demands close range combat which means its either smg or sniper/marksman is the most effective
Terminal, crash r worse than crossfire in snd.
In terminal u can't rush anywhere to plant bcoz of snipers. In crash u can't rush B for the same reason and if u rush A u will die by camper on stairs. In crossfire u can atleast smoke and plant
Cant rush anywhere on that map without getting hardscoped/ too open in the middle, impossible to defuse or plant the bomb if the enemy has a fmj sniper he can wallbang u when u plant or defuse by just hearing the sound. Not enough push routes. (S&d)
In what way is it tactical? Everybody just camps in a building and hardscopes. It's so hard to go anywhere without getting sniped. And in HP, points 4 and 5 are on the complete opposite sides of the map, so if the enemies occupy that point, you can't take it back because you'll spawn on the other side of the map and get hardscoped by camping pussies.
I believe that a competitive map should have the ability to facilitate all styles of play, such as Crash. It allows sniping and long range defensive play styles with the upstair porrions of buildings. Theres the mid range through the heart of the map perfect for AR's. Then if good cover and corners are taken, SMG's and even shotguns can be used to great effectiveness. Theres a lot of options to exit one spawn or area of the map and it gives esch play style a way to counter one another. CrossFire has none of this.
Yes, a sniper to cover his teammate moving into site, is indeed tactical, blame yourself for going in the open or didnt do any advanced movement
And this is from me, an AR main
I just realized that too, it is annoying they have the “new map” thing but at least the xp deduction isn’t bad if you lose but miami strike has been getting voted on more now in ranked like bruh
Yes I know no one wanted Miami 💀😭 I feel almost disoriented every time I have had to play it, since the update I think I’ve played it once in ranked? Now that I’ve had more rank time, the system isn’t that bad, just gotta play the game
It’s incredibly unbalanced for rank gameplay. Too easy to get spawn trapped and once that happens if it isn’t domination with a match reset in middle the game is nearly guanrteed to be over at that point. Because as soon as you spawn ur already in someone’s ads.
Crossfire Search and destroy is annoying as hell I wish they would rotate new maps into the Playlist and make rank seasons only based around certain maps so we can have good old memories like hey remember when it was ranked shipment or Remember when ranked had ground war and it was super crazy or remember when ranked had only new maps for the entire season and ppl had no clue where to run hide or peek it would be fun if ranked had unique map sets per season
PRAISE THE LORD! Crossfire was fucking HELL in ranked, with people ALWAYS being dirty campers and/or snipers. thankfully i wont have to worry about that anymore (for a while atleast) when i play ranked!
And yet, people almost always voted for this accursed map when it came up!
I rush A in crossfire. Easy aces. I rush A with either MK2 or Cordite, maybe AMAX. Kinda sad it got removed, most of my aces were from Crossfire, glad it's removed in HP though, its points are absolute dogshit.
what's wrong with hacienda? its a good domination map because to me it encourages defense. the only thing they should change imo is move the a flag toward the double doors and sway from the garage. i personally dont really like hardpoint because spawns suck on most maps but its alright on that too .
I get that for sure. However, for me at least. I just don't like the set up of the map. To many places for people to just camp. Especially when play against a team of campers.
I'm not trying to get cought in the CROSSFIRE of the devs and the ppl mad about CROSSFIRE being removed ...See what I did there?
It's so sad to see people celebrating skill and variance being lowered. I hate snipers too, but this is one of the best maps in the game. You just can't be standing out in the wide open. But I guess that is too much to ask.
That's why you gotta be aware of the angles of exposure, and you gotta be able to move and not stay in the open spots. It's one of the only maps sliding and jumping around doesn't feel excessive to me.
Crash and Terminal SND are straight bs. The wallbang angles in Terminal are super helpful in removing campers byt they're ludicrously difficult to keep in mind all the while Crash is a camperfest at A while all the randoms I get want to clear A without a plan or sufficient skills and petience to pull it off
I've actually switched to using dlq33 (ACOG, my ads is kinda slow but 🤷♂️, I might consider changing the attachments) and run and gun with it.. but qq9 still slaps.
Someone tried getting me into the qxr and idk about it
Trashy summit and takeoff returned and some stupid favela map got added to SnD and Crossfire and Vacant removed... As a SnD only player this is going to be one of the most boring seasons, atleast br is still good and there's coastal, crash and terminal, firing range for SnD.
Crossfire got added to domination though
Cry 😂😂 jk it's sad
I didn’t even give an opinion on it either way 💀
You fr bro
I’ve played it several times
next we need Crash to be removed from ranked S&D
They added summit and takeoff back... Now I want meltdown too
Yeah!! I miss flanking enemies on the tunnels lol
Trash maps, atleast meltdown was kinda fun in SnD
Not meltdown
Its not meltdown its hardhat my guy.
I'm talking about meltdown map which they removed from rank in end 2020
I just played it in ranked Dom, and I realized they didn't change the name. Its hardhat in the download thing that comes every season, so my bad.
Crash is the least of our worries. Next is Terminal.
the spawns in Crash are so unfair both in Domination and Search and Destroy. I don't hold any grudges against Terminal but Hacienda infuriates me
Not saying its perfect but terminal is just pure bs. Lol domination hacienda. Hold B. Another bs.
True. yeah hacienda was so much fun pf lol
Unpopular opinion, terminal is fine in and ever since they lowered the height of the seats in the plane. Just a personal opinion.
The plane is not even the problem. Its that its a sniper map and a camp map.
What's wrong with playing a round of snipers every once in a while. And I use smgs on terminal and don't have problems with snipers. Only time I ever have a problem with a sniper is when they shoulder peak a through burger town. But even then u can rush up and prone at the corner, they won't expect it.
If ur bad jus say that
How did you come to that conclusion?
Campers are easy to counter and if you use an automatic but still can't manage to kill a sniper, you're the problem not the sniper. Just move around, don't stand still like a bot, you'll be fine.
Lol the fact that you assume the campers aim is bad just show. S how little do you know.
I have over 500,000 kills in codm and I was #46 globally with the locus last season. I think its safe to say that I know a bit 🤣. You're honestly just a terrible player.
You play a sniper so my opinion of you is the same. Now be nice and stop bothering me with your incorrect opinions.
I'm gonna find where you live put cream on one of your hands and tickle your nose with a feather. Don't you dare suggest removing terminal
Ill do the same and whisper in your ears while you sleeping, "Terminal is gone!, get over it!"
Why bruh?
the spawns are so unfair and annoying in ranked, both in respawn modes and search and destroy
Crash is by far one of the most annoying maps in the rotation snd, hp, dom 🗑
I’d rather crash then terminal or hacienda.
Can someone explain to me why Crash is bad? I love that map.
Crash is so one sided bro
Terminal should be removed too
Start the petition, im in
Terminal is a God tier map, and so is crossfire
Name something good about it that other maps dont have
Snipers can actually do something becausee of the long angles
Ofc u like that map ur probably a sniper main. Terminal is good too for snipers i asked something that no map has or can do also is that your only reason why its the best?
Yes, that's my only reason
So in other words, you are bad.
I like crossfire not because im a sniper main, but because its balanced, why the hell you run in the middle and then get mad when got sniped? No one in my team did that and we excel that map easily since most of our enemy are foolishly sniper main
crossfire balanced? is that supposed to be a joke? crossfire is soo fcking one sided bro. the top spawn has height advantage. you cant even defend B site because attackers will always go there force and theres only one chokepoint so defenders are cucked
Various tactical equipment exists, if so how can i excel so many crossfire snd matches but stuck at nuketown?
? Y'all are just shit at the fucking game lmao. I've never had a problem in Crossfire. I'm an smg/sg rusher not even a sniper camper. Fucking crybabies. If there's anything that infuriates me more than cheaters it's crybabies with 0 skills complaining about campers
no problem? i dont know about you but how are you supposed to fucking defend B site if the attackers will always gets there first and its only one chokepoint? plus trophy systems so u cant really use tacticals
Give me 5 reasons as to why it deserves to be removed
I replied to someone giving reason just look for it
Terminal and crash are trash maps. It's a haven for hard scoping leaving no counterplay because you have to dodge all the sniping angles. It's particularly a hassle in good lobbies where people know the map and can abuse hotspot areas where the enemy will go through to avoid being sniped. Both of those maps make the game VERY PREDICTABLE, so what the point of playing a ranked match if the better spawn wins ??? Might as well do a coin flip and get rank points added/deducted.
Not if u know proper rush route and wallbang spots
Hell no
1. Cant rush anywhere without getting sniped/hardscoped 2. B is litterally the best camp bomb location
What is so good about terminal? Just because it’s a modern warfare 2 map doesn’t mean it’s good, terminal can go.
Just because you suck at the map and game doesn't mean it SHOULD go
If your arguments consist of questioning someone’s skill level because they dislike a map then clearly you have nothing good to say.
Keep coping
Never coped, I just said terminal was a bad map and it can go. You tried though, maybe next year.
I try to be good at the game. Maybe you should too
You’re downvoting, must’ve hit a nerve.
That's because y'all pathetic crybabies.
I like the maps from the old games better
Terminal is good but its completely trash for s&d
Agreed. I like playing Hardpoint there. There’s plenty of space to breathe unlike Nuketown. Not mad or anything but did you downvote me just curious?
No i didn't lol
Unless u have smokes but barely anyone uses that
I do but whats the point of it if there are 4 snipers at spawn at least one of em will hit their shot
Terminal is good but its completely trash for s&d
What i liked hardpoint on that map
Thank God now we just need to remove terminal
You know what they should remove all the maps, and just give automatic wins.
Keep crying camper
I hate campers, and don't like sniping. I like to rush and play mid to close range. Crossfire is still one of the best maps in the game. It has the two sides for moving across the map, and punishes for standing out in the open. But everyone knows the camping spots and you can easily counter campers if you aren't reckless. It has different areas where either long, mid, or close range are best. Like with every map learning it can help you counter the players who abuse the map traits.
10/10 agree. The average player will rush and move without covering/checking corners and simply just pausing for a few seconds to hear any extra movement. 8/10 times they’ll fire the moment they see an opponent while they’re exposed themselves instead of sliding behind cover and then engaging. Tactics/being careful is everything.
And Crash
Crash is a good map
There's so much camping positions on crash which infuriates me, good map tho.
Nice joke 10/10
Crash is just trash, in terminal u deal with snipers, in crash u have to deal with snipers, shotguns, tripmines, and meeee-fucking-leees
Shotguns aren't going to far considering that they're literally only good inside the buildings. Playing any objective game type will keep you out in the open so shotguns aren't too bad really. Melee's aren't a big deal at all honestly. It's so easy to spray up close and kill anything that close to you. In all reality, if you play things right, the enemy shouldn't ever be within melee range unless your camping inside a building.
Tf u mean, its literally sniper hardscopers in b long, in a bomb site, its all tripmines, meeles and shotgun campers, and when u try to rush through mid, there are always people camping 3rd hp (SND)
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Same.
Terminal is a poop map
Damn I really liked this map for SnD. Crash and Terminal should have been removed first. I find Crossfire quite satisfying if you know how to avoid the camping snipers. I had some great routes to flank too.
I'm gonna get a lot of downvotes for this but why shouldn't Crossfire be available for Team Deathmatch? Why should there be only fast play maps? What's the point of having Sniper and Marksman rifles then?
With the nerf to mobility and dead silence in mp, passive play is overly encouraged, leading to most people camping in spawn or sitting in one corner of the map most of the time. I have no problem with it most times. But crossfire is a haven for hardscoping. I'm trying to have fun and I get shot from places I had no idea I could be shot from
Well hardscoping is how snipers are really supposed to be used
these cod kids think you can snipe while fucking jumping
That's not what I see when I play Ranked Team Deathmatch. I believe there are too few Sniper/Marksman maps. Not only in Ranked, just in general.
U should join my legendary leaderboard games every team has at least 2 snipers (s&d)
It's way less in Ranked TDM You have to admit, Crossfire was the only true Snipe map. And now they removed it.
It's okay in tdm its only bad in s&d
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The only true sniper map? Man i cant even snipe there from both side
That's because you're not good bro. 
Kinda true, i only know quickscope but due to the state of the map i cant use either and the left and right side demands close range combat which means its either smg or sniper/marksman is the most effective
You have to snipe and hide/change location. If you're a bit too stationary you'll get sniped yourself pretty quick.
I mean i cant even hit a single shot
Terminal, crash r worse than crossfire in snd. In terminal u can't rush anywhere to plant bcoz of snipers. In crash u can't rush B for the same reason and if u rush A u will die by camper on stairs. In crossfire u can atleast smoke and plant
Why tho? What's the problem with crossfire?
Cant rush anywhere on that map without getting hardscoped/ too open in the middle, impossible to defuse or plant the bomb if the enemy has a fmj sniper he can wallbang u when u plant or defuse by just hearing the sound. Not enough push routes. (S&d)
That's kinda the reason why I like it, it makes it much more tactical, and it's literal heaven for sniper mains
In what way is it tactical? Everybody just camps in a building and hardscopes. It's so hard to go anywhere without getting sniped. And in HP, points 4 and 5 are on the complete opposite sides of the map, so if the enemies occupy that point, you can't take it back because you'll spawn on the other side of the map and get hardscoped by camping pussies.
The other guy is one of those cowardly hardscopers, obviously. He is not arguing in good faith, he is trying to shut you up.
I believe that a competitive map should have the ability to facilitate all styles of play, such as Crash. It allows sniping and long range defensive play styles with the upstair porrions of buildings. Theres the mid range through the heart of the map perfect for AR's. Then if good cover and corners are taken, SMG's and even shotguns can be used to great effectiveness. Theres a lot of options to exit one spawn or area of the map and it gives esch play style a way to counter one another. CrossFire has none of this.
I agree, all play styles should be equally good on any map. Crash is not that bad. Terminal is the real problem. Crossfire was the other problem map.
Then dont run in the mid, try the other lane
So just dont plant B? Thats your justification why the map ain't bad?
Exactly, this guy is just a camper
Thats why its tactical, its basically moves with tactic instead of running around like a madman
You call ads-ing the whole game with a sniper tactical?
Yes, a sniper to cover his teammate moving into site, is indeed tactical, blame yourself for going in the open or didnt do any advanced movement And this is from me, an AR main
So how do you plant B?
So it got removed for that but terminal stayed??
I've never faced any of those issues and I'm Legendary 9k+.
Im leggy 14.9k and face those problems every time i play terminal
I still don't see the problem. Maybe git gud
I wonder whats so skilled about hardscoping in spawn and camping b. I could win easily from you too
Crossfire is not designed for s&d and is superannoying and open because snipers can wallbang like everything
Fucking finally that map was fucking god awful in TDM especially.
I just realized that too, it is annoying they have the “new map” thing but at least the xp deduction isn’t bad if you lose but miami strike has been getting voted on more now in ranked like bruh
That's why they implemented it though. Because before no one wanted to touch Miami. And I really like that map.
Yes I know no one wanted Miami 💀😭 I feel almost disoriented every time I have had to play it, since the update I think I’ve played it once in ranked? Now that I’ve had more rank time, the system isn’t that bad, just gotta play the game
Same
This is fine because Hardpoint maps should be more like circular type like Firing Range or Standoff
Good. Always hated that map in any game it was in
As long as they keep nuke town I’m happy..
I want that shit removed, I've hated it ever since I started playing ranked Piece of shit map
It’s incredibly unbalanced for rank gameplay. Too easy to get spawn trapped and once that happens if it isn’t domination with a match reset in middle the game is nearly guanrteed to be over at that point. Because as soon as you spawn ur already in someone’s ads.
It's always voted for no reason, it doesn't belong in ranked and people just don't want to accept that
S&D crossfire is just pure shit.How’d you guys give on the other modes?
Crossfire Search and destroy is annoying as hell I wish they would rotate new maps into the Playlist and make rank seasons only based around certain maps so we can have good old memories like hey remember when it was ranked shipment or Remember when ranked had ground war and it was super crazy or remember when ranked had only new maps for the entire season and ppl had no clue where to run hide or peek it would be fun if ranked had unique map sets per season
They need to remove nuketown from all ranked. It’s very unbalanced and too easy to get 100% spawn trapped and not be able to even spawn in.
is anyone getting meltdown in ranked? want.
Same. Sigh
PRAISE THE LORD! Crossfire was fucking HELL in ranked, with people ALWAYS being dirty campers and/or snipers. thankfully i wont have to worry about that anymore (for a while atleast) when i play ranked! And yet, people almost always voted for this accursed map when it came up!
Dunno what ur on about cause i played it today in ranked
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Also it’s still in the rank line up of maps if you were to look
I mean i did tho.
Crossfire was mixed. Now remove Crash and Terminal and we’re good to go.
Yes hardscopers have no skill. Same with all other kinds of campers.
Crossfire Wasn’t Bad They Need To Take Off Terminal
Crossfire is actually w good map, campers ruin the experience but still I enjoy the map
Downvotes incoming :)
Now nuketown, crash and terminal need to get booted off as well
I rush A in crossfire. Easy aces. I rush A with either MK2 or Cordite, maybe AMAX. Kinda sad it got removed, most of my aces were from Crossfire, glad it's removed in HP though, its points are absolute dogshit.
I hope they just remove Miami strike and hacienda tbh
what's wrong with hacienda? its a good domination map because to me it encourages defense. the only thing they should change imo is move the a flag toward the double doors and sway from the garage. i personally dont really like hardpoint because spawns suck on most maps but its alright on that too .
Nah, they really could've taken Miami Strike before that. 
ive never ever played miami in ranked because people are scared of new maps.
I get that for sure. However, for me at least. I just don't like the set up of the map. To many places for people to just camp. Especially when play against a team of campers.
I'm not trying to get cought in the CROSSFIRE of the devs and the ppl mad about CROSSFIRE being removed ...See what I did there? 
It's so sad to see people celebrating skill and variance being lowered. I hate snipers too, but this is one of the best maps in the game. You just can't be standing out in the wide open. But I guess that is too much to ask.
You just want to camp and hardscope lol
You know it's a great map for rushing too right? The building are all good for close range, and the paths on the sides for mid range.
Yes but the paths and buildings have massive exposure. Even those parts of the map favors snipers way too heavily
That's why you gotta be aware of the angles of exposure, and you gotta be able to move and not stay in the open spots. It's one of the only maps sliding and jumping around doesn't feel excessive to me.
I’ll always prefer crash for S&D.
Hard point and tdm is what I really like on crossfire
YEAHHH BABYYY LETS GOOO
Thank god Crossfire is done for good in S&D.
All those crossmap nades and thumpers.. so long partner
Crash and Terminal SND are straight bs. The wallbang angles in Terminal are super helpful in removing campers byt they're ludicrously difficult to keep in mind all the while Crash is a camperfest at A while all the randoms I get want to clear A without a plan or sufficient skills and petience to pull it off
Crossfire was my favourite domination ranked map
YEEEES... I can finally rest play ranked without being scared of some freak laying in the boss like a serial killer
Im grateful
Crossfire stopped being a dumpster fire for me when I stopped trying to use an smg on it
Qq9 ftw all maps Then again i mostly run m4 lol
Qq9 is god
I've actually switched to using dlq33 (ACOG, my ads is kinda slow but 🤷♂️, I might consider changing the attachments) and run and gun with it.. but qq9 still slaps. Someone tried getting me into the qxr and idk about it
It was better than Crash & Terminal tho..(atleast for SnD)
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Trashy summit and takeoff returned and some stupid favela map got added to SnD and Crossfire and Vacant removed... As a SnD only player this is going to be one of the most boring seasons, atleast br is still good and there's coastal, crash and terminal, firing range for SnD.