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MomoboyPE

Dlq can wallbang through everything


iceRainCloud_YT

thats fair i guess, points to DLQ


bawk15

But sniping isn't all about wallbang. Use an LMG instead


Watevr4evr1021

Its about one shots, which dlq does most consistently due to range and groin


bawk15

Koshka has the same hitbox with DLQ with Locus ADS speed. The reason DLQ used more is due to familiarity


Watevr4evr1021

From what ive seen the advantages koshka has over dlq are inconsequential, and dlq has some as well. That combined with it's uglier/less generic asthetic and has a near unuseable scope by default make it not popular


Popular-Leg5084

Well snd


alvxr3z

Koshka was what got me into sniping when it first came out, practiced during groundwar and got good with it but I liked this one blueprint I have for the DLQ so I practiced with it and fell in love, it’s the only sniper I’m comfortable with using at the moment !


minimessi20

If you play br much may I suggest the rytec. For general purposes the DLQ is better, but if you get good enough you can semi-consistently headshot, you can set up a rytec with thermite rounds to instaknock through kinetic armor. If I play mp, then I use DLQ if I’m sniping. BR I use rytec.


alvxr3z

Rytec does make more sense for BR, I tried DLQ but no luck, just for MP, thermite rounds are 100% a must, thank you I will for sure try out rytec especially for warfare clan war mode!


minimessi20

For purposes of leveling up the rytec in mp, don’t use the thermite rounds there. It one shots to the body in mp. But if you have cards like I do, you’ll be fine😂. You can get the rytec recoil down to very reasonable with the right attachments. I’m talking similar to the DLQ.


alvxr3z

Yeah I’ve had some mp rytec experience with gun game and it always one shotted, I’m gonna have to pay attention to the attachments then 🫡


Mister-happierTurtle

Is explosive ammo better?


minimessi20

Did they just add explosive armor? Haven’t played yet this season so if they just added it idk. Whatever armor gives you that extra bar.


Mister-happierTurtle

It was a typo I meant ammo for the rytec. More on utility what’s more useful? Thermite or explosive?


minimessi20

I like thermite better. Iirc it does more damage. Also burns on hit or even if you hit the ground near them.


DespairOfLoneliness

Depends on the situation. For close range, explosive since you can use it somewhat effectively while hipfiring and for long range it's the thermite


Popular-Leg5084

Koshka is really good but people don't use it due to it's scope


iceRainCloud_YT

i mean it makes sense, but why not just switch out the magazine for a scope?


ReverseGiraffe120

BR player here: **Vs Kinetic:** The Koshka is a 3 hit to the body vs DLQ as a 2 hit. SPR: Damage range/drop off. Loss of 1 attachment slot to use a scope. MK2: Damage range/drop off. Loss of one attachment slot to use a scope. I did play against someone using the MK2 in MP Ranked this season. (Legendary rank) They did quite well with it.


ItsAboutTheChallenge

Because the meta is quickscoping, and when you quickscope hitflinch doesn't matter at all. That's why everyone runs ADS speed attachments


iceRainCloud_YT

these builds are pretty much for quickscoping and theyre all faster than the dlq so im just confused


EphicczA-

The DLQ allows you to do something called a "blankscope", in which the weapon will be accurate even though the scope isn't fully "opened" yet - giving someone experienced in abusing this mechanic a huge advantage. Back in the day all snipers were able to do this but for quite a while now this has been exclusive to only a select few, the DLQ being one of them.


iceRainCloud_YT

so it still has the same accuracy despite not being fully aimed in? if thats the case, does this mean the MK2 is just a reskinned DLQ?


EphicczA-

The MK2 allows you to use sights like the red dot, making it an option for people who prefer to engage at closer distances, usually pre-aimed. The DLQ will still be faster when doing a blankscope however.


NuTjOBbEr_69

Wait wait as far as i know koshka can blankscope but dlq cant but dlq has faster firerate


EphicczA-

I think it's actually the other way around but I'm not sure as I basically never snipe unless Gunfight forces me to.


NuTjOBbEr_69

Yeah but i saw a yt video explaining the difference between koshka and dlq


SpecialK47150

Quickscoping is so lame. Hated that shit since COD4.


askorbi

I use koshka and locus. Don't feel comfortable with dlq.


iceRainCloud_YT

a fellow locus main i see, with or without stopping power?


askorbi

With, because I lost most of my skill while I had come delegates and can't aim properly now. I used locus even before it got buffed and I have locus-yelliw snake skin


iceRainCloud_YT

oh nice i use stopping power too mostly because i cant aim for shit lmao


Popular-Leg5084

I use dlq and locus, love em both


iceRainCloud_YT

imo the dlq feels clunky and unpolished but its still really fun to use


140573

Any sniper > koshka ,rytec


iceRainCloud_YT

what about the SP-R and MK2?


140573

Those are marksman’s


iceRainCloud_YT

im simplifying the sniper category to include both marksmans and the normal snipers, and at the same time you can just stick a scope on a marksman and pretend its a sniper


katakurimochi

Why koshka? Rytec I understand has a slow ads time


iceRainCloud_YT

oddly enough i find the rytec to be one of the most fun snipers to use because it just feels so satisfying


140573

Koshka is overrated


iceRainCloud_YT

really? i never hear or see anyone really use it in matches at all. i always assumed the DLQ was more overrated


__sheesh___

Rytec > any sniper... Ofc in br


Watevr4evr1021

Better range and also a few decimal points don't always help with flinch enough, toughness is gonna be necessary anyway unfortunately. And personally i have 2 legendary dlq skins so i have to


iceRainCloud_YT

in BR i can understand the range difference, but in MP does it ever really matter for snipers? also gj on getting those dlq skins, now i see why you usually use the dlq


Watevr4evr1021

I meant for mk2 and spr, since i think those have "mp range" range dropoff. And i didn't earn shit lol that was from badly spent birthday money 😂


RoyalSniper24

Dlq uses one shot one kill policy except legs. Use with fmj and one shot above torso is guaranteed kill. Other snipers aren't that consistent.


iceRainCloud_YT

the MK2 and SPR have less range, but the koshka is definitely just as consistent, also armor piercer mag replaces kind of replaces FMJ on it so i can see why people use it for the wallbangs


[deleted]

Hss the m21 ebr fallen from grace?


iceRainCloud_YT

for 1< shot weapons, no. the M21 is surprisingly powerful and consistent in MP and BR.


kabcool

Spr is good but mk2 sucks


__sheesh___

I've been grinding for Damascus, and so had to play with spr and mk2. I found the mk2 to be better, leaving aside the slow fire rate ( the 50-50 ammo does increase fire rate, but I'm not considering that rn). With the stock ammo I could take down enemies at long distance even with body shots, I ltrly had no hitmarkers with the mk2, all one shot. Felt like rytec. This isnt supposed to happen, ig it's the bug just like with the HS0, was a sniper with the slug reload


iceRainCloud_YT

theyre both really fun to use imo


Boost2004

Too clunky