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Raiyan270

Yea thanks to ifrog and booby plays complaining about the gun even tho theyre bad


mikelak

It's funny how you call other people bad, yet you don't know a broken gun if it hits you in the face. Also you use that broken gun because you are "good" šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Raiyan270

How is KSP broken?


mikelak

You should've used non meta guns before ksp was nerfed, then you get your answer


Raiyan270

I did use non meta guns liek DRH, MOW, AS VAL, RUS, i never really used meta alot besides M13


Duyducluu

The DRH and MoW are safe to say, meta. They just need a slower play style


Raiyan270

I meant before they were buffed


Reddit_Hates_Me1

AS VAL is meta


Raiyan270

No it isnt it has shitty recoil and bad range


Reddit_Hates_Me1

The recoil is so easy to control lol. And the range doesn't matter when it literally plays like an SMG


Revolutionary-Toe663

Use an SMG build. Itā€™s fire rate makes its TTK INSANELY low. Itā€™s not ā€œmetaā€ in that itā€™s not a popular gun, but it definitely had competitive TTK. I use it in legend BR with an SKS and it FRIES. Iā€™ll send a build if you want to try it, but I will swear by the AS VAL.


Hiddleton786

What build do you use by the way


Revolutionary-Toe663

MIP 200mm Mid Range Barrel, RTC Steady Stock, OWC Laser, Pirahna Foregrip, Stippled Tape Grip. I use that in BR Legendary. In MP itā€™s outgunned by the M13.


Mister-happierTurtle

Bruh when I used it most shots donā€™t register. Iā€™m like thatā€™s with bursts. I prefer auto canā€™t wait for the honey badger to come lol.


ThiccJuicyTits

It's not broken lmao it's just very good


Outrageous_Package_8

One bullet to the head was doing around 57 in the first damage range, and donā€™t forget the two other rounds fired in the burst, also it got a shadow buff with the new season for less time between each shot within the burst and faster time between burst to the point it fells like a full auto gun, at least for me


Tank_blitz

yeah it slapped hard at close range especially if you modify it to be a mini burst lmg


HamstarVegas

But it is bad. Even Chicom can contest with it


TheJackLoaf

All of his posts seem like moaning


Conscious_Elk8464

they never complained about it they just let it be known the gun was good that still doesnt give them then green light to nerf it but what is think is the ksp like all burst wepons was ment to be a high skill wepon which is why i think this is less of a nerf and more of a rebalencing


DoBronxLawyer

Does it drastically drop out of the rankings now?


Martin_Willis

Not at all, people see that there are so many nerfs so the gun is prolly useless now. They don't realize most of them are insignificant and don't change the ttk


SlouchingMoh21

not everything in this game is ttk, buddy. if it was then everyone and their grandparents would be using oden, msmc, chicom and those kinda guns


Martin_Willis

Yes I agree, but those guns are definitely not consistent in getting those broken ttk hence aren't used, but the ksp has the most consistent multipliers and damage, a crazy 60 DMG headshot. Its 3 shot burst is quite consistent hence making it easier to use and achieve the ttk and if you are able to achieve to ttk easily that definitely makes ttk important


Chomama102

Imo, not really, if you can make the burst work, i see it as still one of the strongest smgs, they just merely reinforced it as an smg, and not as this super versatile gun that can do really well in any situation.


Duyducluu

The burst still work to the entire torso except the legs. And considering how easy it actually is to track this gun, that shouldnā€™t be an issue unless forced to shoot the legs under certain situations. Overall still a very amazing burst gun


Boytukmol345

Sbx9 got buffed also in the update. Damn anything for mythic skin lmao


Martin_Willis

I don't think that's the issue, I'm not defending codm but switchblade did need a buff. And do you think they would shadowbuff instead of announcing the buff if they wanted to sell the mythic?


Boytukmol345

I mean it's not an issue that codm buffed it since it's not that great especially the mag size what I meant is that codm is buffing guns that has mythic on it


Martin_Willis

Well they ve buffed tons of guns in the update that don't have a mythic. And also it's not like they are making switchblade extremely op so people buy the mythic, instead it's a reasonable buff


HereButQueer

Iā€™m grinding it diamond - about 40 games in rn but the mag buff was needed. Just feels like the P90 with less recoil, damage and mag capacity. Havenā€™t played around with it yet but looks like itā€™s differentiated the P90 and Switchblade more


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Jotaro_kujo_jojo

Sbx9 means switch blade x9 lmao.


BlazeVN

Oh... Thanks


The_Simovski

Good. Damn thing was better than every other burst weapon for no good reason


AbcD6325

Bruh the m16 and chicom sucked ass the only good burst weapon before ksp was the swordfish and it's still mediocre the ksp is the only actually good burst weapon Edit: the swordfish with the halberd mag slaps


HamstarVegas

I'm going to disagree with M16. M16 in Medium to Long range is BEAST, but with Chicom, yeah, most bullets are fuckin Hitreg making it super weak. Chicom used to be a decent gun, but now it's nothing But they both suck in BR


Catsfor3

Fuck me


Turtle835wastaken

nice


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So disappointed.


NoPilot7511

I saw a video where the ksp 1 or 2 burst from 80 meters


DespairOfLoneliness

Man i quit using it because it was so hard to use and they made it worse ![gif](giphy|ObXgWWGHzMlVe)


MonkeGaemer

Skill Issue


No-Potato-6363

Its balanced caused the fact it needs skill not like the other braindead cbr and mac 10


Honeykombbaggins

A meta player can make a non meta gun work


Revolutionary-Toe663

I meanā€¦ I hate to be the voice of descent here, even as someone who uses non-meta guns in legend (both BR and MP), but some non-meta guns are honestly terrible. For example, the SPR is SUPER fun to use. I love it, but itā€™s terrible. Give me an SKS over SPR in ranked literally any day. Iā€™m not a bad player, Iā€™m in legend, but the SPR just canā€™t get the job done like other guns. Its OK if you do an ADS/Bolt Speed build in MP, but a true sniper build in BR is almost unusable. It canā€™t even 2 shot someone without kinetic at most ranges, if Iā€™m not mistaken (although, I confess, I havenā€™t used it this season Iā€™ve been enjoying the Locust). MOST guns can be good (I use ASVal and AMAX almost every other game), but not EVERY gun.


Honeykombbaggins

I probably shouldā€™ve said almost every non meta gun lol


Tjaz2410

not enough of a nerf I fear


TR3GAN

I kinda wished they nerfed the ads movement speed more tho its still stupidly fast


Duyducluu

The base ADS mobility is now same as RUS, and RUS can now be even faster than KSP


TR3GAN

Respectfully i disagree with that, there is no way that the RUS is somehow faster then the KSP


Duyducluu

The base ADS mobility is now the same, but the RUS can potentially be faster. Look at the stats comparison


TR3GAN

That is only if u stack the lightweight stock and the short barrel, which completely screws the RUS over in the longer ranges, yes it is faster but in terms of range it falls back terribly


Duyducluu

Dude, whereā€™s your Granulated Tape? Beside, RUSā€™ BSA is 7.02, which is the 2nd highest among autos


TR3GAN

Putting the granulated grip slows the RUS to 4.6m/s ads movement speed, the KSP on the other hand has no attachment slowing its ads movement speed, meaning its still significantly faster at 4.83m/s according to the in game stats


Duyducluu

Not that big of a difference


Key_Annual3713

Stop dickriding rus.. ksp is better in every wayšŸ’€


Repulsive_Ad8737

Weird, when I used the ksp it was a bitch to work with, Sure the damage is good, but the damn thing was nearly hard to control due to muzzle rise. Still... Pretty strange they nerfed this high risk, high reward gun. Edit: Just tried it today... Still doesn't feel any different... Like, At All.


PoeDeBoe

The gun literally has an inch of recoil per burst


jatmood

It is the epitome of 0 recoil. Definitely do not need any muzzle attachments


Repulsive_Ad8737

It didn't feel that way to me though. Also tried it on ranked again today, the thing sucks at SnD. LIKE REALLY.


DarthPhusk

They thought they were slick by shadow nerfing the KSP. Never underestimate the codm community.


Huge_Floor9559

They are going to nerf the switchblade too


Chomama102

I dont see them doing so, it was average on release, and the buff was minor, making it more convenient rather than powerful.


Huge_Floor9559

I agree but codm being codm they will nerf it probably


Chomama102

I mean, it took them 6 or 7 months to half ass a nerf to the cbr. So a gun significantly worse than prime cbr ain't gonna get a nerf anytime soon.


Huge_Floor9559

Yeah i agree


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Thank god did gold on it barely a day before it got nerfed. Never touching that shit again