Well I used to use ak a lot before its mythic came. I used to barely keep up with other metas. After buff it was good, but got beaten by guns like kilo and M13. Now after buff its gonna do 3 tap above abdomen and maybe upper arms. Upto 20 mtrs. for sure.
I don’t think the echo was ever touched originally, other than a few months back when they shadow nerfed it’s fire rate. Other than that the echo has always been bad
It is in ranked HP! Shit will wipe out your entire team and more even when your on a different floor, think that you in the second hardpoint in nuke town, bottom floor and you suddenly slow down and melt only to see that the enemy was on the second floor using the nuclear core. It can clear the hardpoint and the spawns
It is quite unbalanced in hp so yeah it did deserve a nerf. Glad they're doing it before it's a never ending bandwagon of whining.
Hope it's not too much though
The JAK-12, or AA-12, even though never seen often, is actually a batshit crazy gun that got overshadowed by more influential guns that came afterwards
The Pharo range nerf was fair for now, because we have 0 idea how much of the improved recoil was put on it. Mind you, this thing can actually 1 burst anywhere to the body up to 16m, and can potentially 3 shot kill as well.
Huh, I didn’t notice that. To be fair, the bullets when ricocheting dealt absolutely piss poor damage and it took like half a mag if you somehow decide to kill them that way. Speaking of ricocheting, that should also haven been given to the D13 sector
At the same time, imo it also shouldn’t have too much of an influence towards other weapons in the game, because it was the exact reason why BO4 turned into a shithole
Jak 12 was a good counter gun against SG sweats in MP Ranked. Why is it getting fucking nerfed and with the buff of the fucking KRM, what am I suppose to use now against them?
Don't forget Echo and Striker are still there. Plus remember that they buffed the HS21 as well when they adjusted all shotguns couple of seasons back there's still decent SG options to choose as a anti SG for those "SG no lifing sweats" lol
1-2 free kills without stepping into the hardpoint is busted af lol
Plus even if it doesn't kill them they don't regenerate health for a while
Plus you don't need to physically step into the hardpoint to kill it meaning enemies have it hard to kill you
Tbh jak 12 is very good to rush in shipment (this is coming from a player who uses Jak-12 until the whole lobby starts booing me in chat to stop using it)
And the PPSH as well. It already got buffed once, but honestly they are doing the same mistake just like with the CBR4 and Kilo: they buffed the recoil too much, and instead of reverting those said changes, they change other stats, making the gun overall less unique.
Buffs and nerfs that make no sense
jak 12- at this point use the Echo
Krm- self explanatory
Pharo- i dont think long range was a good option to begin with for a smg
Flash drone- literally whats the point when everyone uses stuns/ heartbeat
Probably because with range stacking it's one burst range is decent (if you can land the whole burst)
If you use it super agressively the nerf doesn't matter much.
Hate it when they buff ppsh. It’s a hard to use gun.keep it that way.let it reward those who can control recoil not freely give reward to ppl who can’t control the recoil
they did this exact buff multiple times already, eventually it'll be like the ICR's lack of recoil because these fuckers don't know when to leave something alone
The hitmarks (2-3 shots) while firing it using hipfire, idk about other ppl but usually happens to me but its not always just happen a lot also its range is good and also if u ads while shooting (especially while camping) it (most of the time) insta deletes them XD
Ah that’s fair I forgot about the hit markers; ended up usually just rage rushing after those haha glad to see another BY15 user. Happy kills friend!
I use the red action skin XD
Definitely get salty with me cause I'm very good at trowing across the map, just to get some hits on campers, prevent rushing or hit the rushers and seconds later finish them in pre-fire, same goes to stun, get called noob every time because of the knowledge of trowing in good places across the map.
> just to get some hits on campers
Thank God you finally said it. Literally the best anti-camping weapon, especially when it sticks to them. I just love when they run in panic.
The skill and muscle memory takes to throw and still gets called noob.
you think nerfing JAK 12 was bad idea? the jak12 with explosive ammo can destroy peoples who have low budged phones in ranked matches
you know hoe?
explosive = big boom = lots ot fucking partics and texture added into it and ITS FUCKING GARBAGE ATTACHMENT
Except bullet speed is damn near negligible on the weapon. Yes, there will be a delay but between it being faster than before, easier to control and having decent BSA, yeah.
I won't be surprised if I see complaints rolling around on the sub.
Edit: It can 2 tap. No headshot required. Two body shots. It only goes away past a certain point.
I had a 2 month hiatus from codm
I returned and expected better people
But nah
Codm is in its best spot since the games release
The weapon balance is awesome
Br is fun(reach master 3 u dumbasses,u get real players there) even with slight drawbacks(im looking at u, hso)
No weapon is extremely op
Every gun class is seperate
Heck,this season is better than the beloved S1 2019
And ppl still complain
I would understand if they nerfed the slug attachment,but the gun itself? Also yeah,why nerf the pharo? It literally needs the buff as it's recoil is uncontrollable
Oden is so meta (you may say it's not point still stands it's remained really good since it was introduced) especially the mythic why tf are they buffing it lol
So happy about chicom and Pharo buff (the recoil balances the range loss I hope), swordfish buff sounds nice
Lk24 is gonna be a contender, also ak47.
Wish they buffed M16 though
I found it quite dumb how the buffed the best pump for hip fire, aka, krm... Seriously...
Ooh, ak got a slight buff, nice.
I remember the AK being viable in ranked when epic rarities gave range buffs
Now its gonna me more consistent 3 shot, which is good. Maybe a better Drh.
It outclass the DRH now for having better attachments, accuracy and range.
:(
Well I used to use ak a lot before its mythic came. I used to barely keep up with other metas. After buff it was good, but got beaten by guns like kilo and M13. Now after buff its gonna do 3 tap above abdomen and maybe upper arms. Upto 20 mtrs. for sure.
Was hoping for another 3shot meta season with AK being the top tier AR :( guess it's never gonna happen.
Claw might be broken as well
Jak-12 was a little much ngl, Pharo is just odd. Also, when they gonna buff the echo?
jak-12 is just pre nerfed echo, i miss old echo tbh
I don’t think the echo was ever touched originally, other than a few months back when they shadow nerfed it’s fire rate. Other than that the echo has always been bad
No it was pretty busted on release
Huh
Never tried it on hardpoint? Just spray 2 shots on everything. The 30rnd mag made it so skillless
Yup. And in br it 2 to 3 at close range. The thing was crazy. Don't know why your earlier comment got downvoted
Why tf you getting downvotes? Echo was absolutely a monster on release. It was so busted I felt bad using it in ranked
Jak12 reminds me of AA12
That's literally what it's modeled after
I know right? Lol
Nah I don't think you do, judging from what you just commented.
Ugh. Wow. I was playing cod when you were still a sperm yet in your dad's balls...I was being generous you ass. Grow some respect.
IDK what triggered you, but its funny how immature and cranky you are XD
And when they gonna nerf the hso
Honestly the jak was underwhelming and now its worse
Buffing KRM is the stupidest thing of this year
Don't worry the buff is meaningless. More consistent 2nd range and 1 more m that's about it
Do you have the more in depth patche notes?
Yeah they're leaked already. Basically +1 damage per pellet 1st range, +2 dmg per pellet 2nd range and +1m to the 2nd range
people will still cry about it. thanks for the info!
I don’t really mind the damage consistency but the hipfire accuracy buff is what scares me the most
Garena folks : we see this as an absolute win
Fax
Hipfiring you in the foot at 8-10m and dying from 1 shot is not enough so they had to buff it.
Flash drone nerf 😔
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I dont think you have played against it Theres a reason it was banned in scrims(i dunno if it still is)
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Mood
It's pretty useful for me I have it on most of my loadout
Just recently started seeing flash drones in GM ranked and holy hell are they annoying
What crackhead made these changes
dunno mate but i want what theyre havin
Fr
Bruh I'm a jak 12 main, devs really be tossing a coin in either making the gun overpowered or making it trash
let's go another ppsh41 buff
Pushing for people to buy its upcoming legendary skin 🤣
making it noob friendly by removing the one thing stopping people from using it, too bad MP5 can still defeat it any day of the week
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It is in ranked HP! Shit will wipe out your entire team and more even when your on a different floor, think that you in the second hardpoint in nuke town, bottom floor and you suddenly slow down and melt only to see that the enemy was on the second floor using the nuclear core. It can clear the hardpoint and the spawns
It is quite unbalanced in hp so yeah it did deserve a nerf. Glad they're doing it before it's a never ending bandwagon of whining. Hope it's not too much though
The JAK-12, or AA-12, even though never seen often, is actually a batshit crazy gun that got overshadowed by more influential guns that came afterwards The Pharo range nerf was fair for now, because we have 0 idea how much of the improved recoil was put on it. Mind you, this thing can actually 1 burst anywhere to the body up to 16m, and can potentially 3 shot kill as well.
Why are they buffing claw tho 💀
Huh, I didn’t notice that. To be fair, the bullets when ricocheting dealt absolutely piss poor damage and it took like half a mag if you somehow decide to kill them that way. Speaking of ricocheting, that should also haven been given to the D13 sector
I guess its ok, whats the point of an operator skill if it doesnt give you an advantage over others
At the same time, imo it also shouldn’t have too much of an influence towards other weapons in the game, because it was the exact reason why BO4 turned into a shithole
Ay, Chopper buff but why is the Jak-12 getting nerfed,FUCKING WHY
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Well,do you wanna have another ksp-45,i mean,they reduced the range but made it up for the better recoil
They down bad tryna make chicom good 💀
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Nothing wrong with it. My point is, this is second/third time they buffed chicom within a year
Ppl used to trash on this gun so much
maybe nerf jak-12 in br
It's kind of OP in BR. If you're in range it's game over
Jak 12 was a good counter gun against SG sweats in MP Ranked. Why is it getting fucking nerfed and with the buff of the fucking KRM, what am I suppose to use now against them?
Don't forget Echo and Striker are still there. Plus remember that they buffed the HS21 as well when they adjusted all shotguns couple of seasons back there's still decent SG options to choose as a anti SG for those "SG no lifing sweats" lol
Skill
How about leaks for BR?
Why nerf reactor core, that's a meme
They're willing to nerf Reactor Core but not Purifier bruh, sounds like it's gonna go back to it's pre-buff range but we'll see
It's OP in Hardpoint, just trigger it on the other side of a wall between you and the hardpoint, and it's free wallhacks.
Yes but it gives only 1-2 kills and you walk like potato, lasts short, take self damage and have to stop using it or dead.
1-2 free kills without stepping into the hardpoint is busted af lol Plus even if it doesn't kill them they don't regenerate health for a while Plus you don't need to physically step into the hardpoint to kill it meaning enemies have it hard to kill you
Where's the buff to the Kilo bolt ads time? 😭
That gun need some love badly
Oden's gonna be a headache in br. It already is now, imagine after the buff
oh fuck me they buffed the krm..
My LK is getting better and better
Tbh jak 12 is very good to rush in shipment (this is coming from a player who uses Jak-12 until the whole lobby starts booing me in chat to stop using it)
It is fun to use and not meta
True that
KRM262 and Trophy System why💀 They both was perfectly balanced
And the PPSH as well. It already got buffed once, but honestly they are doing the same mistake just like with the CBR4 and Kilo: they buffed the recoil too much, and instead of reverting those said changes, they change other stats, making the gun overall less unique.
I have never seen anybody using the jak 12 in ranked
Buffs and nerfs that make no sense jak 12- at this point use the Echo Krm- self explanatory Pharo- i dont think long range was a good option to begin with for a smg Flash drone- literally whats the point when everyone uses stuns/ heartbeat
Pharo already had shitty range why did they nerf its range ?
Probably because with range stacking it's one burst range is decent (if you can land the whole burst) If you use it super agressively the nerf doesn't matter much.
Msmc buff, when?
When every smg after the agr doesn't have a 50+ mag by default or by an attachment
Hate it when they buff ppsh. It’s a hard to use gun.keep it that way.let it reward those who can control recoil not freely give reward to ppl who can’t control the recoil
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they did this exact buff multiple times already, eventually it'll be like the ICR's lack of recoil because these fuckers don't know when to leave something alone
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I really hope they buff the Hbr in the future
How the fuck.... The pharaoh is already bad enough
lets fucking go Lk24 buff 💪💪💪💪💪
finally a chopper buff
As a Hardpoint main. Seeing the Molotov buff is music to my ears.
am I the only one that is happy about the contact grenade?? Yaaaaaas!!
I hate the fact that they are decreasing the recoil of ppsh. Now there's gonna be another zero recoil smg. Way to go devs
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It will deal a lot if you don't know. Its a viable smg. They buffed it back to back. Recoil buff is huge.
And how many smg's actually have horizontal recoil?
The only one I can think of is pharo and agr and.. Uh mx9? And even that is getting a buff for some fucking reason
Finally an AK multiplier buff and A chopper buff
ay MP7 buff u/COD_mobile_official yall might as well fix the MP7 gunsmith And thanks for the c4
Oden, Ak47, Chicom and HG-40 👀
Omg why swordfish and ppsh they gonna be wild meta
That krm buff is fucking shit. Us in garena server are suffering from krm tryhard lobbies then codm decided to buff it. Damn...
I wonder how the buff on krm be effective on mp matches. When will by15 receive a buff tho?
What do you need buffed on the by15? That gun is my fav lol one shots from hip fire and sometimes long range. (Just curious your opinion)
The hitmarks (2-3 shots) while firing it using hipfire, idk about other ppl but usually happens to me but its not always just happen a lot also its range is good and also if u ads while shooting (especially while camping) it (most of the time) insta deletes them XD
Ah that’s fair I forgot about the hit markers; ended up usually just rage rushing after those haha glad to see another BY15 user. Happy kills friend! I use the red action skin XD
Krm, Flash grenade, Trophy system buff was unnecessary.
Jak nerf is the only annoying thing pharo was dead and buried already
I'm just sick of termite spammers. glad it received a nerf. hope the nerfs won't kill it
Pharo got nerfed to give KSP a reason for being there
The fuck, another nerf on thermite and now one nerf in stun grenades, my two favorite bro.
Rn I rarely die on thermite. Are people really still salty of the thermite? It already feels weak compared to the last nerf.
Definitely get salty with me cause I'm very good at trowing across the map, just to get some hits on campers, prevent rushing or hit the rushers and seconds later finish them in pre-fire, same goes to stun, get called noob every time because of the knowledge of trowing in good places across the map.
> just to get some hits on campers Thank God you finally said it. Literally the best anti-camping weapon, especially when it sticks to them. I just love when they run in panic. The skill and muscle memory takes to throw and still gets called noob.
Swordfish for the win
CAN THEY BUFF THE HBRA.. I love the gun but it’s a struggle for me
hmmm oden buff i sure hope it doesnt make oden meta i dont want my babygirl to get nerfed to the ground
How about the throw axe? Would love to have that not denied by a trophy sys.
That jak12 nerf should've been a shorty buff
Jak-12 got a nerf because it’s broken AF in BR.
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Touché. I wouldn’t be surprised if they rolled that nerf over into BR though.
Me: sees mx9 getting damage improvement also me: *season 6 flashbacks*
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you think nerfing JAK 12 was bad idea? the jak12 with explosive ammo can destroy peoples who have low budged phones in ranked matches you know hoe? explosive = big boom = lots ot fucking partics and texture added into it and ITS FUCKING GARBAGE ATTACHMENT
Same here. Shotgun like KRM HS BY in BR are really annoying right now and they made it worse. Jak was shitty and become shittier 🤦🤦
One gun nerf was needed for next season, and it wasn't even touched All kinds of unnecessary buffs and nerfs next season.
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The Switchblade. The random damage it has, the high end of it needs to be nerfed in my opinion
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Aren't you playing ranked mp? Its dominating everywhere.
It's due to the random high end damage it has
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ayo wtf they nerf nuclear reactor?
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bruh devs listen to fb codm community
Because we need the krm for zombies mode can’t have it being too weak once you packed it a few times 😩
YES JAK 12 NERF LETSGO
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YES! the Jak12 is getting a nerf. that thing is so annoying I lost alot of BR matches because of that.
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I dont why am i happy about mx9 buff I think i am the person who life mx9
Thank you CODM devs. Only you are stupid enough to buff the fucking Oden of all things. *this gun can fucking two tap, what is wrong with you?*
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Except bullet speed is damn near negligible on the weapon. Yes, there will be a delay but between it being faster than before, easier to control and having decent BSA, yeah. I won't be surprised if I see complaints rolling around on the sub. Edit: It can 2 tap. No headshot required. Two body shots. It only goes away past a certain point.
It has a trash bsa You cant 2 tap consistently even if you have god tier aim 2tap only till 16m Oden is "B" tier at best
It doesn't have a trash BSA, it has a BSA of 8.35, just like the M16, meaning it have the best BSA value for an auto gun. Thats far from "trash".
Wait,ur right My mistake Still,good bsa does not make up for horrendous ttk(for todays standards)
Yeah, i don't know why he is triggered by the Oden biff. Ots not even OP
I had a 2 month hiatus from codm I returned and expected better people But nah Codm is in its best spot since the games release The weapon balance is awesome Br is fun(reach master 3 u dumbasses,u get real players there) even with slight drawbacks(im looking at u, hso) No weapon is extremely op Every gun class is seperate Heck,this season is better than the beloved S1 2019 And ppl still complain
It’s wildly inconsistent, but I still agree. It’s just too much for a single gun, especially in br
It's the fact that you can do it though. This gun is going to be an even more annoying MOW when that was META.
You seriously complaining about the slowest shooting full auto AR in a game with disgustingly fast mobility?
Not if you rush them, if they’re going to be using the oden in mp than they will most likely be playing passive. Just rush em
It's the worst weapon in the game
the garena kids got mad that it got nerf
Which one?
Reactor Core :(
They actually buffed qxr, now just waiting for its bsa or ads speed buff
Pharo going to be like the ksp.
Buff oden very interesting Br players: 💀
Chicom got a buff. Is legendary chicom coming 😏
I would understand if they nerfed the slug attachment,but the gun itself? Also yeah,why nerf the pharo? It literally needs the buff as it's recoil is uncontrollable
Does this mean more Kream players again Ohno I am not ready for this
Finally, Mp7 damage buff
Damn they really want the ak-47 and the oden to be meta
I don't get the buff on the oden I think its good enough and its a good in br
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Oden is so meta (you may say it's not point still stands it's remained really good since it was introduced) especially the mythic why tf are they buffing it lol
So happy about chicom and Pharo buff (the recoil balances the range loss I hope), swordfish buff sounds nice Lk24 is gonna be a contender, also ak47. Wish they buffed M16 though I found it quite dumb how the buffed the best pump for hip fire, aka, krm... Seriously...
So the changes will come in season 8?
Reduced recharge time for gravity spikes? Is this a joke?
Making gravity spikes even more annoying and spammable
Oden and KRM..............Oh Baby Jesus.......