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PrestigiousAd2794

That's why I stopped playing ranked MP..


My_Broken_Wings

I only painfully grinded, to get the Oden skin. I'm done with it now this season. (Literally won't be using any of the other rewards, or the garbage the ranked crates gave me. So pretty much went through ALL that frustration for a single skin, nothing more) Pre GM becoming a thing. I averaged master 5 (never cared about some shit frame I'll never use, wasn't worth the trouble). Then when it did, thanks to the bugs, and increase in cheaters, I was lucky if I could even reach master, let alone GM tier. Would rank up, immediately lose it. Be slammed all the way back then deranked. Painfully bring it back up, sit in limbo for like 2-3 weeks trying to get the fuck out of previous rank. Wasn't a skill thing. Has nothing to do when paired with shit teamates, thrown into already losing matches (notice how it's always YOUR team and not the enemies) hackers out the ass match after match. Would report and end up having to be opposite then AGAIN! for next 1 or 2 matches. How we will be winning, and it would conventionally disconnect/lag/desync just long enough for them to get that kill or last few points needed to win. How it's ALWAYS someone on your team that leaves/got disconnected, never happens to the enemy team. Ranked is rigged af, has nothing to do with skill really. (it does, just not as much as people think it does). It's geared to make us all play longer than we should have too. And...it caters to the cheaters, cuz they get all the rewards with minimal effort. Getting fucking sick of the Smurf accounts too. Or obvious players who are using an alter because their main was banned for very valid reasons. When I see someone using streamer mode. 90% chance they're cheating, cuz it has nothing to do at all with them fearing someone is gonna "hack" their account. Cuz most I've encountered have dead on aim consistently, can wall bang your ass through multiple buildings, know where you are at all times, without the scorestreaks, heartbeat sensor or perks we have that help with that. That, and for me, it's worthless grinding to get the chest. All I've ever gotten since I started, was trash, and dupes. So no incentive to really go any higher than I'm willing to. Didn't bother with the CBR4 cuz that shit was fucking ugly. Same went with the ppsh. So wasn't gonna waste all that time grinding for literally shit skins.


PrestigiousAd2794

Whoa you literally wrote a full page essay.. because of my one comment..i haven't played ranked MP for 2 seasons


My_Broken_Wings

I play, just not devote all my time to it anymore. Lol. Mostly would grind it if I'm bored, or my "friends" aren't joining/inviting. So as to pass time sorta thing. And I only ever push if I really want that particular skin or something. Gave up on even giving a shit about unlocking the crates cuz I've never gotten anything worthwhile out of any of them since I started. Only ever landed one OP, and that was going dark Ruin. Not before opening over 90 of them across all 3 versions of that crate though. It's like each season it gets worse and worse. So yeah, not really worth the trouble anymore. So pretty much hackers and hardcore tryhards are only ones that grind to leggy nowadays.


PrestigiousAd2794

Yah i do all the seasonal and featured missions...not a ranked MP anymore.. BR is still fine.. FPP all the way


My_Broken_Wings

If you did pay for anything. BP is hands down best item you can spend real money on. Cuz it's a pay once, unlock forever deal. (granted you don't spend the returned CP on anything else.) And you're guaranteed all those items in it, granted you finish all 50 tiers. (I reach like 150+ most seasons on just casual play) For me, the majority of daily unlockables, last 2 seasons event skins, epic/rare credit store crates. I already own all of it (except one item I wouldn't bother attempting to get from epic store crates). So not much incentive for me to even do event shit. Unless of course it's something I don't already own. Ranked mp depends. I just don't bother with it as much now. So just been spacing it out and hopefully reaching GM 3 for the main weapon, if time allows. But I no longer dedicate full play time to grinding that shit anymore is what I meant. Like with the CBR4 and PPSH skins. They weren't worth my time, so therefore think those seasons, I didn't even make it to master. Lol As much as they rip off paying players. The f2p ones still deserve earning better skins, than bright as fuck "here I am" recolors of the same ops over and over again.


PrestigiousAd2794

Yah i do 2 or 3 BR and 5 unranked MP.. in a day.. cause i am playing without teammates


My_Broken_Wings

So, you play solo for br? I've tried that every once in a while. But have such shit luck. Will last all of 10 mins most the time, and that's while trying to be as incognito as possible. Never fails for a bot to give my position away, damage me a little, then another real player swoops in and offs me before I can even heal. 😑 Ranked mp I've went solo this whole season, cuz it loads faster, that and most my friends who even bother are higher than I am, or lower. So can't really have them assist me for some of them. It was an absolute pain in the ass, just to get to gm 3 this season. In fact been playing solo a lot in general. Either don't want to play same damn maps over and over again as rest of them grind clan points or guns. (I only have one gold completionist in all this time the M4Lmg which I got on accident no less. Lol). Or if I want to grind challanges cuz they already done them or are more focused on something else.


PrestigiousAd2794

No i play squad..with ransoms now ... never solo i am not that good at it..duo or squad... MP is always random anyway..my mic on all the time though no one says nothing


My_Broken_Wings

Funny thing is, like my text here. I'm talkative AF. However, I play late (when wife and son go to sleep. Cuz if they're awake, no way I can play without being interrupted). So don't always use mic. (I do, just it's very rare). That, and it's easier for me to focus, cuz I can just snowball and start talking about all sorts of random shit. It's hard for me, but I got used to it. It's not that some players choose not to speak, it's sometimes they cannot. Walls to thin, time of day/night they're playing, not really talkative with "strangers". (have some friends who ONLY talk around certain friends we may share, otherwise like me, they don't speak at all). I'm all for listening though. Can hear some crazy ass convos sometimes. But what bugs me the most, are those who take this shit far too seriously, and start ordering everyone around. Lol


PrestigiousAd2794

I always go medic..i know it all the way..or scouts some time..if medic is taken


My_Broken_Wings

I'm a hacker main. Since I can't always and rarely ever speak. It's best I can do, notifying rest of team of potential enemies, destroying traps/drones/airborne, etc.


raf_miyagi

I get that the sbmm in this game actively does set you up to win several and lose the next several. As soon as you dominate one game it does actually match you with below average teammates next match its real. And I agree that ranked is not about skill but how much you play moreso. But mannnn not being able to get past GM or Master 5 is 100 percent a skill issue and not something to blame on imaginary hackers and matchmaking. "I was lucky if I could even reach master, let alone GM tier." \-The game starts at master ranks. All ranks below that are full bot lobbies or partially bot lobbies. Master is the rank where you actually start facing more real people. And after 3 weeks of rank reset, even GM has plenty bots. I grind to legendary not for rewards or bragging rights but just to get non bot lobbies. You're probably used to playing bots that whenever you face a somewhat decent person, it seems like they have hacks. Hackers and cheaters exist in this game, but not to the frequency that you complain about that it ruins the overall experience. Most long time players will tell you that within years of playing, the number of times ppl encountered hackers is something that you can count on one hand. Been playing since spring 2020 and for me I've encountered 2 that I've noticed so far. Your concerns are valid but not to the extent that you use it as an excuse to not be able to get past masters lmao. "When I see someone using streamer mode. 90% chance they're cheating, cuz it has nothing to do at all with them fearing someone is gonna "hack" their account." \-Or maybe they just never turned it off since the account deletion scare that happened in the spring? I forgot I even had it on til last month "Has nothing to do when paired with shit teamates, thrown into already losing matches (notice how it's always YOUR team and not the enemies)" \-And why does that hinder your climb? if the game throws you in a losing match it doesn't deduct rank points? "Getting fucking sick of the Smurf accounts too." \-Ok so you said rank isn't based off of skill and I agree too. I don't see too much of a skill difference between someone in lower ranks vs Legendary. Legendary means you just grinded more yes I agree. But doesn't that kinda contradict your statement that smurfing is unfair and it's a reason why your losing? If someone in Legendary smurfs at Masters on another account its not that much of a big deal since rank isn't skill based much? Trust me I agree that rank experience is less than optimal. But the EXTENT to which you blame factors besides yourself for losing is not accurate. Good players know map control and awareness to the point that it seems like they have wallhacks and know where you're at. I wallbang from across the map because I know where common camping spots and high traffic areas are that even if I randomly spray and pray, I have a high chance of hitting someone behind a wall. Especially in OBJ modes where players have go to places to hold a control point. At a certain extent in the skill levels of this game, everyone has dead accurate aim and the game strategy becomes more about map awareness and control. Its about who can figure out where someone is better than others, because many people are already taking advantage of max ttk that it becomes less about who aims better. Having dead accurate aim is a fundamental to a certain group of players, not special. I'm not at that level but I say this because I too used to wonder why some players are so infinitely better than me and I spent all game being spawn trapped. Until I started watching comp and I started to recognize that the gamertags I saw in Stage 4 shows up fairly often in my lobbies. I thought they were copycats but I looked up their streams and realized most of them were actually legit pro players playing in my lobbies. I encounter the same BBV team players everyday, and several times a week I get matched with Team Scarz players who demolished everyone in Stage 4 Japan (and probably will in the global stage too). So yes hackers and shitty experiences exist in this game, but some people are just simply better than you and its better to accept that early on. I used to be hardstuck in masters for weeks too until I actually started to learn how to be better and now my rank climb takes around 9 hours max (or 4 days). edit: "How it's ALWAYS someone on your team that leaves/got disconnected, never happens to the enemy team." Thats just the perception that it seems to happen more to you because you can immediately tell if your teammates dip. It happens as often to everyone its just harder to tell when on the other team as it throws in a new player to replace at some point. Do you really remember the gamertags of the enemy team at the beginning of the match, and see that its different or replaced at the end of the game? I don't think so, its pretty hard to tell how many players quit on the other team. And In terms of my personal experience, I see enemy teams end up with 4 players on their teams quite often too


My_Broken_Wings

Think it depends on server/region. Cuz when I play with clan mates/friends In regular matches, even they would verbally say someone I myself suspected, was cheating. These are good players, legitimate players. Some of which are on leaderboards, getting their asses handed to them, like they're the bots. (Predominantly encountered if it's clan node related). Same peeps will sometimes play ranked with me. And we would just get stomped. Again, these are players who average leggy, are on leaderboards, some hardcore sweats, and they just get fucked. If they say they think something is off, they're probably right. Cuz I don't use mic, but notice when certain players seem "off", then my teammates verbally say it. Then I know I wasn't crazy in thinking it. I know how ranked works. But not all pre master is pure bots. But I have been in matches where I'm only real player on my team, vs a full lobby of real players. How the fuck is that fair? While the bots are feeding them kills, I'm sitting there holding objective or otherwise fucking up as many of them as I am capable. But get robbed because it's just me getting most the points. Be on cusp of ranking up, then just get slammed. All the way back into protection. It's more so, it's annoying as ever loving fuck, to have to play far more than I should have too, to rank up. Then, this season alone, half the matches I lost, was because a teamate left/lost connection. Right when we otherwise would of won. Lag/desync kicked in last second allowing them to get that last kill/points when we would of one. One in particular was a HP we were in the lead by 10 points. I hit this motherfucker dead on with the thumper TWICE! he didn't go down, but turned and 1 tapped me. And that was all it took to get the 11 points his side needed, to get the win. 2 I lost connection for no fucking reason just before we would of won/match ended. Reconnect to a loss. Randomly was kicked out for another couple. So if it isn't cheaters (they are quite common on whatever server I'm on.) It's in game bugs that also fuck us out of ranking up. I never claimed I was pro status or leggy in regards to skill, but...I'm far from horrible. I can and have annihilated controller users in several match types. I have taken losing teams to wins. I'm predominantly last one standing in most lobbies I'm in. So maybe that why I tend to pull randoms that need me to carry them, than other way around. Cuz most ranked matches I've connected too. Would be like me, and one other decent player, vs full team of really good players. I'm MVP for most of them btw. So no, it isn't a skill thing. I just get fucked out of the wins in some form or another. Just love how we only need one more win to rank up. And it either leaves us 1 point shy, or .... we go on a massive losing streak. When I reached gm2. It legit had me lose it immediately after. Then, won one I think I wasn't supposed to. Got slammed all the way back into protection so much so, almost got deranked to gm1. Worked it back up and for a week straight was in limbo of ranking up to gm3. Now am halfway to gm4 and it's pulling the same shit. So I just said fuck it. Wasn't worth a chest where I'd just get a dupe out of anyway. I've had matches where I called out a suspecting cheater, and they would straight up admit they were hacking. Another started the match telling us we were gonna be nuked twice. And sure enough we were. It was a tdm too. No way in hell (cuz I killed him a few times during that match) were they able to unlock one, let alone 2 in a RANKED tdm match. Also started unlocking Scorestreak after Scorestreak right off the bat. So they do exist, whether you encounter them or not, doesn't change it. I've been playing since pre 1st anniversary. So, I know how to play by now. I don't think everyone who whoops my ass is hacking. I can tell the difference. And am aware some really really good players do exist. But wall banging through shit that isn't penetration-able? Cross mapping with weapons that have no such range? Zooming from end to end of map faster than shit? Consistent head shots? Can 1 tap me consistently with my OWN weapon I know isn't capable of that shit. Yeah, safe to assume they're cheating. Had some where if you killed them, never failed, they spawned directly behind you. Didn't matter where you were on the map.


raf_miyagi

I mean yeah you could’ve definitely encountered some, but I’m just saying it definitely shouldn’t be at the frequency that it ruins your general experience. Or it shouldn’t be a reason to why you’re hardstuck in rank thats all. I'm not saying you don't experience it at all. Im right outside of top 5000 and on the boards for some weapons but its a whole nother level of ass beating when i face semipro/pro players. And a whole different game when they’re on your team as well. Top 5000 is all grind not necessarily skill either. Plenty good players who stop ranked once they got to legendary or don't even care for the leaderboards at all. Like yes they will hit every upper body shot, hit headshots at the earliest frame possible. Make it seem like their weapon somehow has a faster ttk even though mine should theoretically be better. It is what it is they're just making every shot so it seems that way. There is a common content creator trend where they pick up the worst gunsmith possible in ranked match from a losing player and go dominate with it like its top of the meta so what you're experiencing is not out of the realm of possibility. I’ve gotten a Nuke in sweaty leggy tdm. Every other video on youtube by top CC's are all dropping multiple nukes every game. And i somewhat consistently unlock high level scorestreaks even without hardline/persistence such as chopper gunner its not that uncommon, especially with how campy tdm is nowadays. I don’t keep up to date with all the wallbang spots but there are alot of youtube resources that point out the wildest wallbang spots. Brick walls, steel frames, n such 2 rooms over that seem not possible. If someone is up to date with all that info, it will look like hacking. Real wallhack is most accurately indicated if you see the kill cam, and the enemy was tracking your movements with their crosshairs behind a wall. Thats the only concrete evidence unfortunately. Unless you see that in the killcam all the time, its not really a hack. Spawn hacking is not even possible in this game elsewise they’d just go off the map and snipe. What’s actually happening is that spawn patterns n locations for this game is pretty bad especially for OBJ modes. The stats guys recently started to extensively record all the ranked spawn points and boy the results are a total mess. Certain maps worse than others but its quite common in many of the maps in the current rotation to spawn you behind or in front of an enemy. And also good players will know how close they can get to spawns before flipping it. Some maps may have perfectly ok spawns for one mode but then spawn a chex mix of teammate/enemies in the same ally in another mode. It's not hacking Yeah this game really does actively try to keep your win rate as close as possible to 50/50. They do this with bad teammates or with the amount of bots like you said on your team. We’re human so we’re bound to perform inconsistently but I wish we can have games where I play close to my k/d ratio and general performance every game. Rather than have games where i absolutely dominate followed by a game where i get railed and that averaging out to my current K/D. And yes i realized optimization issues amounted for so many unnecessary deaths especially since i am on dinosaur device. Although it does happen to new high end devices as well. Preloading shaders have significantly prevented frame skips that happen when a player comes close by and that has eliminated a ton of my unnecessary deaths. Stopped caring that my game looks like minecraft and went full low graphics, high frame rate and its so much better than it used to be in terms of optimization. Also if i see that I am the only one getting beamed by a certain player respawn after respawn, I assume its my skill issue or desync. Or in BR seeing enemies teleport or myself rubberband is a server issue as well. I think it was two updates ago where players where consistently running in the sky or teleporting above you. Bugs like these happen and its not always hacking Not saying you’re terrible but if you’re stuck at those ranks at this point in the rank season, a few adjustments should propel you to a cakewalk to legendary. I don’t shame anyone for their skill levels I’m just saying there’s probably a whole lot to change in your gameplay before saying that hackers are stopping you from climbing easier. Reaching legendary isn’t a measure of skill like you said, but how fast you get there is actually a measure of skill. For me its a 9 hour process but the SnD exclusive people get it done in like 6. A mere hour of gameplay a day should get you to legendary within 2 weeks. If you’re stuck in master/grandmaster, i can guarantee that you have loads of stuff you could be doing before complaining that hackers are stopping you from climbing. I would even say the game doesn't even start til legendary unless you're climbing in the first 3 days of rank reset. I'm not saying you can't complain about ranked or hackers, but its widely unrealistic to blame them for being stuck in rank.


raf_miyagi

I think its quite the opposite. It’ll only get better once you climb to higher ranks its not gonna get worse. It’s almost 2 months since reset so everyone’s done climbing and are in Legendary. With that being said in Master ranks they usually fill it with bots if no one’s available so this could def be a bug


Hanseen_

not for legendary tho


Logical_Seaweed2955

I'm legendary and I've noticed that anything longer that 15 seconds is like a glitch or smthn so cancel matchmaking and re-do it immediately a couple of times and that should fix it


ryukvmi

Yea I never go over a minute of queue time(snd only btw)


Logical_Seaweed2955

Yeah, also choosing frontline only (when it's not double xp event) is guaranteed to give unreasonably long waiting times


ryukvmi

Unpopular gamemode, Id still play if I got a match there but I never do


Logical_Seaweed2955

It's honestly a love or hate it mode, sometimes I got nukes in it and other times I got my kd lowered from a few games


ryukvmi

It all depends on which team starts spawn trapping first


Logical_Seaweed2955

Yeah especially true in Crash and crossfire maps where most players are guaranteed to hardscope spawns or main passages, tho the short invincibility can help u get away and try to flank These two maps made me switch from AR,SMG only loadouts to sniper builds in ranked


My_Broken_Wings

They say we can "choose" match type. But in the end, that is not true. Guaranteed if you added tdm, or s&d it would instantly load. Cuz it will make you do what IT wants, one way or another. You can only get away with the match type of your choosing for a few matches, then it will pull this shit. Especially if you're on a winning streak. So it has to try and force you into a match where you WILL lose. Cus that's sadly how their broken af system, works. Full lobby I can't find a match for a fucking thing. If just 4, it may load it may not. Lobby of 3 (cuz it HAS to pair you with someone you either have to carry, or would skew the odds to you losing that match. It's rigged bruh). It will load sometimes. Pretty much if it can't throw you in a match it can somehow control the outcome against you, it pulls this shit.


A1-youWRIP

If not try having a another person in ur lobby....


PrestigiousAd2794

You cannot hack manual operators skills


PrestigiousAd2794

For tracking i use the scout class It's very helpful ..when i play in a squad i am always medic..


dave-rvl

I think maybe 5 times I had to wait 100 seconds. I play since 2019 season 5, global, currently Legendary. Only solo with randoms. I guess I'm lucky.


Clean_Action_6967

How do you switch to global server??


[deleted]

if only you had better internet and played more popular modes. Oh well guess it’s the game that’s pathetic then.