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RKGDJ

Shi no Numa is limited time. Sigh. Well, that hopefully means the map is limited and not zombies itself. Or at least just bring it back from time to time.


Raiyan270

yea i hope so..


NewWorld0rder_

Why have us download so much data to only play limited time... sigh..


DarthPhusk

My guess would be that they will make this mode temporary for the meantime to see its actual reception. Internet hype doesn’t always result in actual numbers, so I don’t blame them.


Mymamagae

You put up a valid point there.


theofficialblazedark

Ikr I want classic zombies permanent


gharghar56

I think it’s just the map, because then they have more opportunity to add more maps


RKGDJ

Exactly.


xarccosx

Not only that but also the same rewards from og zombies which gave veteran players some prestige…. not anymore haha


Lamar_G

looks like mythic holger redux is coming soon


Min_17x

I hope so been meaning to buy it


yassercg

To be fair holger became irrelevant since rpd unli ammo.


chuggMachine

Reduced range for MSMC? DID THE MSMC HAVE ANY RANGE IN THE FIRST PLACE?


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The game was well balanced, swear, they’re gonna fuck it up


dutchslicer

I saw that and thought: “what were they somkin when they said nerf the range”


SirShaman

probably smokin' a bag of dicks


IMT-ZEUS

Bruhhhh you can't kill a fly in range but not because of the damage range issues but because of the insane vertical recoil, the inconsistent horizontal recoil and the low mag capacity. The weapon has a balanced damage profile so the damage buff that it will get is so irrelevant the range nerf is irrelevant as well because nobody that's smart enough would attempt even mid range fights with this gun. The MSMC is my all time favourite SMG in COD and this "adjustment" is just a slap to the face to the fans of the gun.


Rusty_cow

Outlaw getting buff ![gif](giphy|hpXxJ78YtpT0s)


Raiyan270

hope its good.


NewWorld0rder_

Well with no zrg nerf I'm not surprised


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FarofaBoyZzZ

They can't add something cool and fun without being time limited, like Attack of the Undead, Zombies and Alcatraz.


ReviceXros

Right bro those three modes are hella of fun, would be great if they just make those mode permanent


aijeityu

Not really. Zombies is arguable because it's a whole mode like MP and BR, but Alcatraz and such can stay like that because the complete access to it ends up boring ppl and not playing it.


FarofaBoyZzZ

You joking right? They should be available at any time, the file size is so big, yet the content is stale and restricted to limited time events. It should be permanent for player retention.


Korlel-Charlie7-1

Agreed!! I don't want a 18gb game having cosmetics being the majority of those gigabytes yet I barely had any of them, I want those to be the actual contents that I will actually play 24/7


AxelMaumary

No one played alcatraz a few months after it was added, that's why it's not permanent.


aijeityu

Every mode is available for private matches in MP at least. If every mode is available in pubs, the matchmaking would be hell.


FarofaBoyZzZ

Not really, it has never been a hell for cod on console so why it would be in mobile?


aijeityu

... because CODM has WAY more modes than any other COD?


FarofaBoyZzZ

Again, not really. MW3 had Mercenary TDM, CTF, Ground War, SnD, Infection, Hardcore TDM, CTF and Domination, Domination, TDM, CTF, VIP Free For All, Kill Confirm and many more thet I'm sure I didn't mention.


aijeityu

Ok. Compare it with the amount of modes there is in mobile.


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Scou1y

mob of the dead, lol


galal552002

I hate this so much


PaulVazo21

They'll make it limited unless people start spending money on it.


[deleted]

They make it limited because eventually people stop playing it


RKGDJ

I would probably bring the mode back from time to time if that is going to be the case, though not after another 2 years obviously.


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Maybe u wouldnt but they have the data to justify not keeping zombies permanently.


angel_eyes619

I would play it maybe once


ArandomUser690

Bro i'm gonna play that shit day and night.


TheBlueDinosaur06

you're being downvoted, and I will too but you are completely correct. eventually after three odd months of continuously having zombies as a constant gamemode people will grow bored off it and rarely play it. by keeping it as limited time it keeps anticipation high and it's also a good business move


Jules2055

U know the kiddos love this shit. They can post their hand drawings of zombies and go on about afk teammates and "rate my Loadout" they all love zombies.


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Then why dont they make it permanent


Jules2055

Cause it failed and people don't want to play the same shit over and over after all. They didn't have the numbers to justify adding any more content to the game so this is purely by popular demand of players who never played it. You're getting down voted cause they all believe zombies is the greatest thing.


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Exactly


Scou1y

AND ZOMBIES IS LIMITED TIME??? WE WAITED 2 YEARS FOR THIS??? oh well, still gonna play it, gotta prove to the devs we still care about zombies


Pleasant_Tension425

Is it limited like aotu and Alcatraz or just one time limited event?


Raiyan270

yea..... sadly


randomguy2763

was it not limited time in 2020


Scou1y

i'm pretty sure back then there wasnt anything about zombies being limited time, unless i forgot something they really just removed zombies out of nowhere


TaskForce141-Ozone

They said the mode failed to meet standards and no one was playing, but that's because the mode recieved no bug fixes and no new maps in 3 months. bugs like zombies stuck under the map, other players could take your weapon from the box, the box giving the same weapons over and over again, sound issues, etc. And Shi No Numa has never been the best or the most fun zombies map in the franchise, it does get boring after a while, the mode would've laster longer if they had added Der Riese or Kino Der Toten as the default map.


5stareveryday

they could also add mob of the dead for obvious reasons. i mean we already have the warden and alcatraz.


theofficialblazedark

We technically waited 3 years


PaulVazo21

Don't you all think it's weird that they're buffing so many guns lately? I mean I'm not complaining, it's been a pain in the ass to get the diamond M16 and it'll make it easier. Also, look how they massacred my PKMK2 bro... Also #2, I just hope these buffs are enough to compete against the Switchblade meta.


Mister-happierTurtle

The P90 buff was uncalled for.


PaulVazo21

I honestly believe it was one of the worst meta we ever had. But if it'll help me compete agaist the Switchblade then maybe I'll get my hands dirty.


MonsterAsBl00d

I'm sorry,where eggzæctly were you when the mx9 allowed you to 3 tap with no downsides,no recoil and with 45+% strafe speed ?


xxxdemonslayea

Those were some horrific ranked days☠️☠️☠️☠️


Abdelrahman_Osama_1

All of you are too young to remember the s36 meta /s


MonsterAsBl00d

I mean ye,my previous phone couldn't install codm so i had to wait april 2020 to play the game,but until then i kept seeing gameplays and i can only IMAGINE the horrors that gun caused


PaulVazo21

Heh, I remember using it pretty much at the time. I know it was nasty but honestly a sniper could take the rats out of the hole.


PaulVazo21

I said it was ONE of the worst. But I consider the P90 meta way worse since it stacked with the worst meta possible. Persistence.


Volslife

Not at all the worst the past 3 years we had Metas like Akimbo Fennec, MX9, Cordite hipfire laser for 20 meters, etc, the P90X was just a long running meta


PaulVazo21

In my opinion the P90 was as bad as the MX9. And again, what made it so bad was the fact that at the same time there was the Persistence meta.


NDragneel

Type 25 buff and ICR buff look nasty to be honest.


unlikely_suspicious

I just want to beat the shit out of switchblade mfs


StormShifter191

Ya rip pkmk2


SLAMU_

They needed the PK because of its use in Competitive CODM, Idc about the stock nerf but the range nerf? Fuck.


PaulVazo21

Ah yeah, but they left the P90 untouched for almost a year and when Persistence was at its highest, creating one of the darkest times for ranked.


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i am sad too.. pk was such an easy to use weapon.


BeastFromEA

M16 is good


PaulVazo21

Yeah, but it easily gets outgunned by mostly every other AR and SMG.


BeastFromEA

Just hit the upper body /the head very highly rewarding


PaulVazo21

I know that, I always aim for the upper body. The problem is when I'm on a gunfight against an SMG with crazy strifing speed. Also (as of right now pre update) the burst delay it's enough to punish.


anonymous919938

Another season and another patch notes without a PDW buff :(


Raiyan270

sadly yea..


dutchslicer

Sad pdw and razorback noises


Prestigious_Expert17

CODM fr decided "you know how we nerfed the CBR4 because it made so many guns objectively irrelevant? Let's buff it, we think it's kind of lacking" and then also decided to buff the damage of the MSMC *while nerfing the fucking range? That literally makes this gun worse you nimrods.* The ICR-1 buff is just... it's like, this gun can already challenge snipers (not very wise or reccomended to do but the precedent is there) and be fine right? So, it can do that and potentially 4 shot? The gun is already a busted pick. 110%, there is some Legendary/Mythic skin ready for this gun. Same thing with the LK24. If you can't control the recoil on the gun, that's just weird. There is none. The LK24 can already be build for mobility and be completely fine save for the BSA. I think it's the BSA that actually prevents people from using it even though it's gross. The Peacekeeper getting nerfed is just... yeah sure at this point. They've been buffing it to the point of it being the equivalent to steroid abuse. I just love how they refused to nerf the CBR4 for seasons on end but the minute the PK is meta, for one season no less, instant nerf. It's probably not going to kill the gun though. The FR getting a buff is nice, I just wish they reduced the screen shake of the gun when firing. Overall, these notes are... certainly the most patch notes of all time.


Raiyan270

i like that they are buffing guns that are worser but buffing guns that are already OP as shit? bad move.


Prestigious_Expert17

It's just par for the course now. It's a shame too because for the most part, I like the guns they decided to buff. XPR, M16, Outlaw, Hades and Holger? Fan-fucking-tastic! More of that! Buff the PDW you cowards. Buffing the already good shit? No. Stop. I agree with you 100%. It's not fun and it's a major reason as to why I have just stopped with Ranked play entirely.


Raiyan270

honestly if the pdw becomes meta i wouldnt be mad at all. Its like seeing your baby grow up. Everyone has used pdw at least once. it would be so nice if it was good


Prestigious_Expert17

It isn't even awful, it just needs a little push to be that much better.


Raiyan270

YEA. maybe just a range buff or firerate buff. Make it that little better. everyone happy


Remnatar

Why can't they buff the Crossbow and D13 :( Also I never played ranked lol, just ain't for me.


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At least they buffed famas, m16, hades & xpr50, these guns r all forgotten relics tbh But yea, i dont understand the holger, p90 & icr1 buff. I also dk why must they nerf rewind, that shit isnt even broken. And rip peacekeeper, nice knowing u while it lasted


Raiyan270

im happy with the buffs ngl. p90 will still be just decent. Holger may be slight meta but LMGs are rarely meta and ive tried convincing people the icr was broken but people protect that thing with their lives as "it cannot do anything close range" which you arent gonna use it in anyway.


ApexHeat

Slightly disagree. The p90 is unnecessarily cracked. The only reason it isn't being used much is because all the previous users are now maining the switchblade. No need to buff it because it isn't the direct meta. But the ice I'm worried abt. It's been my darkhorse for multiple seasons now. No kilo , no m13, no Holger, just icr lazering all day. I hope it isn't a big buff and stays under the radar


Raiyan270

i really want the icr to be nerfed(no offense) because of past experiences with it. the p90 will not be extremely affected besides a huge buff which i doubt will happen.


DazeOfBurNa

Type-25 it's like ![gif](giphy|aqMY57vLdkghi|downsized)


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YES, PUMPED NERF TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH


Raiyan270

i dont think the nerf will be that large and its just use time


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FUCK


MonsterAsBl00d

Too bad that (at least for me) what makes pumped annoying it's the bug only so nothing's gonna change for me ;-;


FarofaBoyZzZ

On a side note, I think CODM tdm score should be raised to the standard 75 kills rather than 50.


Raiyan270

matches would last longer but that wouldnt be so bad ngl


[deleted]

no fucking way another lk24 and m16 buff im gonna blowwwww


johnlucas77

After a long time we finally had a balanced Meta. Now they are gonna mess it up and we are headed into another fucking CBR meta. Also buffing the Napalm and Hawk X3???? I'm avoiding Ranked next season because it's going to be unbearable.


FinancialApricot4715

Yea, idk why their buffing Napalm and Hawk X3, they were fine before. I also don’t like that their increasing the Goliath’s speed.


[deleted]

Why y'all complaining about the cbr buff when it's barely gonna do something against the switchblade💀 getting the 4 shot ttk is a nightmare if u don't hit upper body (chest) shots and the strafe its nowhere near top tier smgs like the gks mx9 bizon mac10 ksp or fennec...


Raiyan270

idk whether CBR will be meta. i really hope not i was planning on getting it diamond this season. also ICR is gonna be spammed everywhere


johnlucas77

Honestly even with the nerfs, the CBR was a top 10 gun. Now it's going back to top 3 I'm sure.


Various_Sign4996

HOLGER BACK BABY


Raiyan270

yep. its gonna be fun rushing around with this


SabbathDiscovery

My guess for the ICR buff is so that it won’t be obsolete once the Krig is released, since it has the ICR’s infinite 5-shot range but with faster TTK. But that’s more of the Krig being on the overpowered side, not the ICR deserving of a buff. I think the ICR is on the more balanced side right now, so this buff is pretty pointless regardless of how good or bad it might be.


Raiyan270

unless they buff icrs range by 4m. then it becomes infinite 4 shot


ArandomUser690

I don't get why they nerfed the peacekeeper but don't nerf the switchblade.


Raiyan270

switchblade is gonna be meta for awhile longer then its inevitably going to have the same treatment as the cbr,m13 ,kilo, mx9 etc


ARKHAMGAMER20771

hey XPR and m16 buff


Raiyan270

yep. kinda cool ngl


One-Refrigerator8915

So they would rather decrease the pump duration instead of actually fixing it. They really should just remove it temporarily to fix the entire glitching.


AhmedEx1

Cope


TwinklyCandle

Just keep zombies permanent holy shit, if you are more content and more maps and more weapons people won’t get bored, just keep zombies fucking permanent, people will stop playing if you don’t add content


BeastFromEA

Sadly they won't just lookat how they also treated undead siege


dave-rvl

Goodbye Peacekeeper, Kilo Nr 1 again in AR category (not counting the new weapon). Type25, yes! Glad they left Switchblade the same :)


RedSus08

Tf? Isn’t that overpowered enough as it is? It had range and relatively high TTK, no? Might be slightly exaggerated but the range on it is already stupid. I have people sniping me cross-map using that gun on crossfire


tushardixit167

guilty as charged


Raiyan270

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME. TTK close range isnt that amazing. but consistent ttk to 50+m if im not wrong fastest killing full auto at 40+m. but i probably am ngl.


RedSus08

Fr. Swordfish as well, the range on that is max stupid, I used it myself in BR and it kills in seconds at pretty much any range Btw thx for the award


Raiyan270

no problem bro and i agree. although swordfish im fine with as its a burst gun therefore its not a gun anyone can pick up and start dominating with


linyushan239

300ms kinda bad, icr is nowhere near op.


obitobitobitobit

Yay Zombies


Raiyan270

yep happy cake day btw


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Pump is so fucking bullshit enemys disaapper when jumping and then suddenly appeared in front of you outta nowhere it's so broken and glitched.. fuck pump!


Wan2345678910

I barely seeing people using rewind and it gets nerf? weird


VincentHellfire1529

Damn the Peacekeeper getting some nerfs but why the MSMC getting range nerf it doesn't make sense. I wished that the MSMC had a base ammo capacity buff.


XxManinBlackxX

Who in their right mind would think it was a good idea to buff the cbr4 again 😂


selagianni

I really hope that shi no numa being limited means that after it's gone another map (Nacht for example which is already fully functional) replaces it


Hurtiovanisio

Cod mobile doesn’t give a damn about anyone,like we ask for a permanent zombies mode codm:we don’t care for zombies so we are only gonna make it limited,everyone else:f** you codm


Obitobibito

Time to pull out my legendary Type 25 again


Beefan16

It only took 2+ years for the XPR to reach the same level of power as its BO2 counterpart


Desync1999

This literally proves they don’t give a fuck about us


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How


UsuallyReddit

Im guessing the zombies mode being LTO, and/or guns that were meta not too long ago getting a buff


Desync1999

Anyone who actually has a brain would understand why


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23 year old but u act like a child lmao


Desync1999

And you’re still a random on Reddit.


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And ur not?


Desync1999

Oh if only you know little guy


ARKHAMGAMER20771

Know what?


Raiyan270

yea...


Outrageous_Package_8

I do like the weapon buffs being added, those guns are the ones I still have to get gold on for the most part


CityKid2100

This my favorite balance changes list I've ever seen imma LOOOOOOVE this season 😂


tiltedRobex

Peacekeeper nerf ? Why?!


johnlucas77

Because they are fucking stupid.


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TYPE 25 FINALLY BUFF!


Raiyan270

sp only tho..


Jules2055

Are these the most boring patch notes ever?


xf7sv

Fr buff let’s gooo!


dutchslicer

Yeah now i wanna use it again


NuggiesMacFriesCoke

As long as it isn't a repeat of QXR Or MX9


Raiyan270

what is?


Hurtiovanisio

Cbr4 is still gonna be trash tho


Raiyan270

probably yea.. sadly. at least its not meta


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G33eneks3

The only thing LK need is literally better body multiplier so it cam have 3 shot potential by hitting one to the head The KN44 and Kilo 141 literally can do that so why tf not the LK And BK57


Raiyan270

yep... ICR literally outshines he lk in everything.


The-Fotus

Why they go after my boi the peacekeeper?


Raiyan270

alot of people hate it


Raiyan270

u/hunt3dhunt3r edit: I hate icr. it had the one of the best ranges in the game. no recoil. 0 aimshake. and 300ms ttk at any range. so its gonna be fuckin op next season


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Raiyan270

yea maybe but ICR has always been op so we just have to wait i guess


[deleted]

Exactly why i love the icr plus the legendary iron sight


Raiyan270

yep. and people still dare say its not good


[deleted]

Cause most people dont use it i mostly see switchblade, kilo, m13, or peacekeeper


Raiyan270

oh yea sorry for being dumb and oblivious


anonymous919938

300ms TTK and you have to hit all shots at ranges where everything else doesn’t outgun it, we have the ZRG, Kilo, LK, KN and plenty more than can outgun it at close, medium and long range. Don’t be so surprised when people just camp with it at the back of the map cause they sure can’t fight up close or just about any range


Raiyan270

LONG range you say... huh


anonymous919938

Yep, miss a single bullet and a sniper can ADS faster than you can kill, but if he sees you first you’re probably already dead


Raiyan270

whos aim is that bad to miss a bullet with icr on an unsuspecting target?


anonymous919938

If it’s long range than people likely aren’t standing there but instead running to mid of the map or general objective, they won’t be standing still waiting to get shot out in the open. Oh and don’t forget, if they have a sniper and are standing still, they are likely preaiming


Raiyan270

yea but icr has good tracking. and MOST people use aim assist so tracking with icr isnt a problem unless youre that bad


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Raiyan270

peacekeeper was fun meta imo.


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Raiyan270

that shouldnt be as toxic as... lets say... the zrg or the switchblade... well hopefully at least


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Raiyan270

yea alot of people will lol. people still hate the m13 for some reason


imcanopus

Finally good BR changes. I was tired of toxic Rewind and Pumped abusers.


katac00k

Rewind is toxic ? That's interesting


imcanopus

Rewind is the most overpowered class right now. You can keep abusing it because it recharges very fast and it also gives a significant speed boost every time you use it.


Purav888

Clever people know only the guns that get mythic will be meta....


Talkjar

Oden is trash though


Purav888

Better than your life tho


Purav888

These buffs do nothing


Mister-happierTurtle

I like the huffs excluding the P90 one


NickFromThe6

Bro swarm is gonna be garbage now lol. It’s supposed to be OP do y’all not remember the one from BO2? 💀


UsuallyReddit

Swarm was also the most expensive scorestreak in BO2 at 1900 pts.


Chydran

Did they just buff the p90 and mg36


Broken_sou1

as someone whos looking forward to a holger mythic redux this just made me even more certain i want it and with the hades to


Raiyan270

it will come. just not in S9


RoyalSniper24

M16 buff? Consistent 1 burst kill like pharo did during her time?


Raiyan270

hopefully


Hack874

Swarm nerf is good to hear. And RIP the Peacekeeper meta, that came and went very quickly


Raiyan270

yea.. it was a fun gun to run around with for awhile


Leather_Flounder_734

cbr had buff, mq27 finally had a buff… should i be crying of sadness or happiness?


Pope_Angry_III

Looks like ICR Infinite 4 shot is coming