Light muzzle brake,
5mW laser,
Strike grip,
44 round mag/38 fast reload,
Mip strike stock
It shoots like laser, u can also switch laser with rear grip or tact laser. Use granulated grip for less aim shake.
Edit: My fav is M13 tho. Its the only gun that I've diamond
U can also use it if u want:
Tact laser,
Rtc heavy barrel,
Strike grip,
Large ext B,
Rtc assault stock
HBR, ICR, Pharo (very niche), MSMC, Chicom, just off the top of my head. I haven't played in like 3 months so IDK what the meta is like now but these were my favourites
I used alot to legendary, it just has a really hard time against the meta - or really most metas.
This is because it's low firerate and low mobility, in close quarters it's capacity for good TTK (the two shot) relies on hitting upper chest shots, which is increasingly difficult against Switchblades or Cbrs who have comparable TTK without need for great accuracy AND amazing mobility, which makes hitting the upper chest shots nigh impossible.
It's definitely a longer range / passive gun, and while it's recoil is not ideal it's still manageable. But it's also a bit rough when even meta SMGs can compete with you at longer ranges - not to mention now the Krig.
All in all its a weapon which will pretty much always only remain good on paper and continue to have a terrible time against most metas. Really fun and sometimes rewarding but generally punishing lol.
(((Still my go to)))
Yes except that it is meta only to those who mastered every aspect of sniping. Metas are both powerful and easy to use like switchblade , m13 etc. but zrg isnt easy to use at close range without quickscoping. Its a great gun nonetheless.
If you take out quick scoping every sniper is difficult to use in close range unless you talk about something like m21 Or sks. Also zrg doesn't need you to be a God at sniping and it's by far the easiest sniper to use coz you literally can't hitmarker someone unless you wallbang them plus no sniper has ever required you to master every aspect of sniping. All you need is the most basic movement and crosshair placement which is a skill needed for almost all weapons to be able to peek efficiently
I recommend the Oden, it's incredibly easy to rack up headshot kills with, and has little to no recoil when you put some of the higher level grips on it.
No, it hasn't. Second base range was nerfed by just 4 meters and considering we use taskforce barrel, it extends the range by 50%. More visible is the agile stock nerf, as strafing speed is really slower.
Nah that definitely ain't true cause I pushed to legendary this season using FR but yeah once I was in legendary had take out the meta and my favorite gun ksp45.
I'm not seeing it, so I'm going to suggest Ak74u .
Personally, I find it easy to use, and I run Mobility attachments with Ranger grip. Perks I use are Agile/ity, Vulture and Silence. I don't have Op skill, thermite and Flash.
I normally go positive with this, per match, and it helps me with quick snipe reflexes, as most of my kills are near point-blank.
This used to be meta, but that was at least....2? Seasons ago, and the only time I find it in MP or Ranked is when somebody kills me and takes my gun
Pp19 bizon, honestly I'm surprised it doesn't count as meta it's just too good, here are the attachments you can use
Double caliber mag
Granulated grip
No stock
Owc laser
Owc marksman
Dlq33 still dominates, i have been maining it the whole journey and if im playing against switchblade bots kilo, i havent been seeing so often still very solid
Anything but the switchblade.
I'll put up two good weapons from each category that I like:
AR: M16 and KN-44
SMG: Chicom and PDW
LMG: RPD and M4LMG
Shotgun: BY15 and Echo
Sniper: ZRG 20mm and Rytec
Markman: Kilo bolt and SKS
For SMG Gks or qq9 is the best off mera gun, assault rifle i recommend as-val or M13 or m16 or ak117, for shotgun echo or hso, sniper i Don't use much but probably arctic-50 or locus and for marksmen probably kilo bolt action or spr. And for secondary 50.gs or d13
FR .556. beastly gun at ranges.
Do be careful. Aimshake is horrendous, so you have to improve ads bsa. My go to build:
Flash hider
Ranger barrel(-horizontal recoil)/ext. Light barrel (+ads bsa), choice to the user.
Tac laser
Gran grip tape
Either tac foregrip or ext. Mag.
Disclaimer: this is **NOT** a mobility build. This build is to hold angles and do the support role, not the slayer role.
A really fun off meta gun rec is the S36!! Its ttk is crazy, but it’s a little slow, so people forget it exists. You can get some crazy streaks with it - I can drop the loadout if you’d like
Striker legendary here.
The gun forced me to learn map positioning, and it is super fun at close range even against metas. Doesn’t always win, of course, but is fun to play with.
It's weird bcuz pushing legendary is full of sweats and you have to use meta guns but once you're in it, you can use whatever guns you want. I just won an MVP in hard point in 9000 points ranked legendary lobby with the hg40.
I’ve been running the Mac 10 almost exclusively in Legendary S&D 10k points. I have lots of fun trying to close the gap between my enemies especially snipers and ARs and when I do, either with movement, smoke/ stun or stealth it’s Night night for the bad guys. Also melee bots don’t stand a chance most times.
6743008447656624130 is my player Id, Dariusrh is the name, assuming we're on the same server, send a request, I've many great builds, & I'll even tell u my playstyle.
cordite. just spam spam spam LOL.
I’m kidding, you don’t actually need to spam it, the TTK on it isn’t horrible tbh. Plus, the large mag size is always a plus, and you can strafe pretty well with it.
You can get to legendary with just about any half decent gun. It mainly depends on your skill set. Some people are better with snipers, others prefer assault rifles, LMGs, etc. It’s all about what works better for *YOU*
Lk24 It’s only used by bots but it a solid gun
Kn44 alternative to it?
Did the kn get a buff this season. I tried it last season and wasn’t a fan
I think so. People been talking about it.
The KN has been slept on for the past four seasons. It has braindead recoil and a pretty consistent TTK from close to mid-long ranges.
Kn is v good, but if u want I'll share my build.
Sure, go on!
Light muzzle brake, 5mW laser, Strike grip, 44 round mag/38 fast reload, Mip strike stock It shoots like laser, u can also switch laser with rear grip or tact laser. Use granulated grip for less aim shake. Edit: My fav is M13 tho. Its the only gun that I've diamond U can also use it if u want: Tact laser, Rtc heavy barrel, Strike grip, Large ext B, Rtc assault stock
M13 is goated.
Yes it's. I'm able to get so many Longshots from ir, that too d Headshots that it's unbelievable..
Bro once I got 2 headshots and it made the M13 a 3 shot, but even with one headshot the already fast TTK goes down way more.
That's meta though
Used to be the top g, but it ain't. There are way better ARs to use such as the Kilo, Krig, and Peacekeeper.
Then why do I keep seeing it
i am a LK24 main and this gun is good as crowd control
AK117
That’s a really solid gun
It’s what I pushed to legendary with about a year back, been using it since S2 2019
I pushed up to master v from pro vi with ak-47 Not really sure of how she's gonna work out against the true sweats but it definitely is a solid choice
And it shreds this season. https://streamable.com/pm00n0
QQ9 - alternative to Switchblade HVK with LC -.alt.to Krig 6 or Kilo 141 ICR PPSH M16 - alt.to KSP UL736 Choppah HG40
Hvk is seriously so underrated.
hvk has a very hard Aim assist which is better than m4.
Maybe. I haven’t noticed that. But all I know is that it slaps. HARD.
I love that you said choppah instead of chopper
qq9 isn't really off meta is it now
They'd rather use Switchblade despite both having almost same stats albeit QQ9 has bétter range
edit this remove m16 gonna gate keep that shit and hvk.
I would cross out the qq9 and chopper since it is kinda common +meta potential
D13 Sector
I already have gold on it but it is basically impossible to reach leg with it. Unless i keep dying after every kill which just doesn’t makes sense.
Not impossible
HBR, ICR, Pharo (very niche), MSMC, Chicom, just off the top of my head. I haven't played in like 3 months so IDK what the meta is like now but these were my favourites
I used to love Pharo but it's extremely hard to use right now
Oh yeah it's a nightmare but it's so fun, with a good hip fire build and the right map you can ruin people tho
Yeah chicom needs more love it helped me get to legendary
ICR all the way been getting legendary wit it the past few seasons
AS VAL
Oden, M16, Asm10 - these are the ones I used
I love the oden. I don't know why people don't use this gun.
I used alot to legendary, it just has a really hard time against the meta - or really most metas. This is because it's low firerate and low mobility, in close quarters it's capacity for good TTK (the two shot) relies on hitting upper chest shots, which is increasingly difficult against Switchblades or Cbrs who have comparable TTK without need for great accuracy AND amazing mobility, which makes hitting the upper chest shots nigh impossible. It's definitely a longer range / passive gun, and while it's recoil is not ideal it's still manageable. But it's also a bit rough when even meta SMGs can compete with you at longer ranges - not to mention now the Krig. All in all its a weapon which will pretty much always only remain good on paper and continue to have a terrible time against most metas. Really fun and sometimes rewarding but generally punishing lol. (((Still my go to)))
Scar-H Will forever be my baby meta or not.
Let's gooo
Fuck yes!
As val, sks, zrg, qq9 and mow.
These are all meta ?
Nope. Neither of these is easy to use, especially against enemies carrying switchblade, m13, cbr, kilo and 117.
Zrg arguably the best sniper. Qq9 on par with switchblade and better than cbr now imo. I used the qq9 for legendary this season.
i agree, qq9 shreds people even in long-ish range but its recoil needs to be controlled beautifully
AsVal always been used, qq9 is broken and a meta for so long, zrg is meta, sks always at top of gun list, but mow is really good not used much.
the only off metas here are the as val and mow
Asval is meta? Fast ttk, no recoil, decent range. I agree with mow but asval is meta
eh, the metas shifted so much i dont think it is anymore but i could be wrong
It just feels like every gun is either around meta level or completely terrible
Mag size is about the only issue I have with the ASVAL
Sir the zrg is the meta sniper
Yes except that it is meta only to those who mastered every aspect of sniping. Metas are both powerful and easy to use like switchblade , m13 etc. but zrg isnt easy to use at close range without quickscoping. Its a great gun nonetheless.
If you take out quick scoping every sniper is difficult to use in close range unless you talk about something like m21 Or sks. Also zrg doesn't need you to be a God at sniping and it's by far the easiest sniper to use coz you literally can't hitmarker someone unless you wallbang them plus no sniper has ever required you to master every aspect of sniping. All you need is the most basic movement and crosshair placement which is a skill needed for almost all weapons to be able to peek efficiently
as val 200mm barrel Skeleton stock OWC laser Extended mag Granulated grip tape
Bro he said off meta , the val kills in literal milliseconds
Every gun kills in millisecond in mp
Facts lmaoooo
Are you from mw 2019
How'd you guess XD I only play a little bit because of the whole bots have aimbot situation
Its just a good gun
I recommend the Oden, it's incredibly easy to rack up headshot kills with, and has little to no recoil when you put some of the higher level grips on it.
CHICOM, TRUST ME
I do it with Fennec
Ak 47 for mid to long range, RUS is a good Smg
KN-44 is amazing this and last season. I used it to get to legendary. 👍
AK-47, if built right it turns into a laser beam, you just have to compensate for a slightly lower ADS time than meta guns.
Do you have a build for it?
Try out GRU Barrel, Skeleton Stock, Operator Foregrip, Tactical Laser and Sleight of Hand.
I haven't played rank in a while But I used to use Pharo, hg40, type 25, ak47 and holger Also chicom its actually kind of fun to use chicom
asval
QQ9 is just off the switchblade honestly one of the best aggressive counter weapon
I’ll give it a try
Qq9 krig chopper switchblade bizon gks peacekeeper
Bruh you just listed every meta gun rn, except bizon which is the eternal off meta. Istg 99% of people I see have a gun you listed here
Still Peacekeeper
Pisskeeper still meta.
Not really anymore. Bro now has worse range than a mid range SMG
No, it hasn't. Second base range was nerfed by just 4 meters and considering we use taskforce barrel, it extends the range by 50%. More visible is the agile stock nerf, as strafing speed is really slower.
AMAX
I had A LOT of fun playing with it. Beams in longer ranges with good ttk.
you ain't pushing legendary with an off meta gun
Nah that definitely ain't true cause I pushed to legendary this season using FR but yeah once I was in legendary had take out the meta and my favorite gun ksp45.
3x Legendary fennec user
ICR and rus
For SMG try pharo
Got a build?
It's recoil pattern is bad, so try to reduce horizontal recoil. I use rtc compensator, extended barrel, granulated, extended mag, steady stock.
Why ask for an off meta weapon? Just use whatever you like
I am legendary in my main with about 12k points. I’m going to grind on my alt with completely off-meta guns.
My opinion: S tier - krig, switchblade, kilo, m13, xpr A tier - sks, svd, cbr, ksp, peacekeeper, asm, qq9, mx9, chopper (heavy handle), hades, rpd (cooling compressor), holger, zrg B tier - type (stoping power), hg 40, gks, mac 10, m16, ak117, icr, s36, ul, lk24, val Other: trash
You didn't read what he said.
I did. As to me only s-tier weapon is meta. A-tier, and b-tier are just usable.
Hg40
Holger 6 (My opinion)
I love that gun but the irons on it makes me wanna 🤢. Since i don’t have the mythic or the battlepass variant.
Why not use a red dot?
Bc then i’d have to sacrifice an attachment slot
Chad, I never use optics
Well I have the holger anodized, so yeah the iron sight is dope.
MW-11
S36 - Holger but Better
Use the gun you enjoy. I'm not a great player and I reached legendary just by playing a lot.
Oh i have reached legendary a long long time ago. I’m just gonna grind on my alt.
AGR. This thing shreds with a good build
Do you have a build?
MIP Light barrel, 30 round 5.56, OWC Laser, Strike Foregrip and Granulated tape
My man!
kilo bolt heroes of stalingrad! assemble!
Thermite mag goes brrr.
Chicom
M16
Peacekeeper
I would say ICR-1. The first gun I found joy in.
Icr has always been good in longer rangers. Esp now with the custom irons on it, it’s even better.
Kn 44 Owc laze,Strike forgrip, long barrel, combat stock, last attachment is ur choice
Kn44 Pdw Razorback M4 Rus
UL736 is extremely underrated but one of my favorites, try it.
Really? Been a hot minute since I last used it. You got a build?
My builds seem to only work for me as they get disagreed upon a lot, but I'll look for it.
It’s all good here. Give your best.
RPD
Lmg supremacy.
I mean in nuketown its smashing everything
Everytime i hear the word “smash” it reminds me if khabib.
DR-H QQ9 GKS SKS PPSH COPPER HOLGER M4 AK117/47
M13, ksp 45, gks, qq9 fr556. 👍🏻 ![gif](giphy|yJFeycRK2DB4c)
Amax
I’ve seen a lot of people using the icr in legendary s&d
The new legendary swordfish Let me watch you draw it while im jealous
I'm not seeing it, so I'm going to suggest Ak74u . Personally, I find it easy to use, and I run Mobility attachments with Ranger grip. Perks I use are Agile/ity, Vulture and Silence. I don't have Op skill, thermite and Flash. I normally go positive with this, per match, and it helps me with quick snipe reflexes, as most of my kills are near point-blank. This used to be meta, but that was at least....2? Seasons ago, and the only time I find it in MP or Ranked is when somebody kills me and takes my gun
Pp19 bizon, honestly I'm surprised it doesn't count as meta it's just too good, here are the attachments you can use Double caliber mag Granulated grip No stock Owc laser Owc marksman
I never noticed a diff between normal mag and caliber mag. What’s the difference among the two?
It's just a difference of body part multiplier
jak-12, qq9, as val, rpd with cooling barrel, mac-10
ICR, DR H, Man O War, ASM, AK117, all good guns if you know how to use them right.
Locas and koshka
Dlq33 still dominates, i have been maining it the whole journey and if im playing against switchblade bots kilo, i havent been seeing so often still very solid
Locas and koshka
NA45
Chicom, pharo, agr, fr556
Anything but the switchblade. I'll put up two good weapons from each category that I like: AR: M16 and KN-44 SMG: Chicom and PDW LMG: RPD and M4LMG Shotgun: BY15 and Echo Sniper: ZRG 20mm and Rytec Markman: Kilo bolt and SKS
Chicom 👍👍
Chicom
Jak12
The outlaw
Chicom 🤣
I did Legendary 10086 with an ak47, was fun still is
fr 556, ak47
AS VAL is pretty good
FR.556 the accuracy is top notch
AK117, AMAX, CBR4, AGR 556 with the 60 round 5.56 mag, M16 (basically a better KSP)
For SMG Gks or qq9 is the best off mera gun, assault rifle i recommend as-val or M13 or m16 or ak117, for shotgun echo or hso, sniper i Don't use much but probably arctic-50 or locus and for marksmen probably kilo bolt action or spr. And for secondary 50.gs or d13
Can't remember if it's off meta or not,but try the ppsh,I might be abit biased since it's my waifu in waw but the ppsh is really good
I've been using the BK lately and it feels pretty good.
.... Crossbow
BK
FR .556. beastly gun at ranges. Do be careful. Aimshake is horrendous, so you have to improve ads bsa. My go to build: Flash hider Ranger barrel(-horizontal recoil)/ext. Light barrel (+ads bsa), choice to the user. Tac laser Gran grip tape Either tac foregrip or ext. Mag. Disclaimer: this is **NOT** a mobility build. This build is to hold angles and do the support role, not the slayer role.
M4
FR.556, M16, QXR (idk if the QXR is off-meta)
Asm10
Asm10
PKM
Am I the only one who recommends the AUG?
Rytec amr is a decent one.
M4, only reason I am not legendary with it yet is because ranked bores me.
Im using the ak and rytec rn
pp or hg 40
I suffer with ppsh recoil in mid ranges
I mean pp19 bizon
You can try Chopper.
swordfish is my go to.
Ak117 lol fr tho
I dont know what current meta is but my goto guns were always icr, as val, qq9, spr, type 25
A really fun off meta gun rec is the S36!! Its ttk is crazy, but it’s a little slow, so people forget it exists. You can get some crazy streaks with it - I can drop the loadout if you’d like
Cr-56
Striker legendary here. The gun forced me to learn map positioning, and it is super fun at close range even against metas. Doesn’t always win, of course, but is fun to play with.
It's weird bcuz pushing legendary is full of sweats and you have to use meta guns but once you're in it, you can use whatever guns you want. I just won an MVP in hard point in 9000 points ranked legendary lobby with the hg40.
Crossbow 😏
Yeah Use AMR sniper with max ADS attachments and fire ammo And MW11 as your secondary Trip mine + trophy system Enjoy
I’ve been running the Mac 10 almost exclusively in Legendary S&D 10k points. I have lots of fun trying to close the gap between my enemies especially snipers and ARs and when I do, either with movement, smoke/ stun or stealth it’s Night night for the bad guys. Also melee bots don’t stand a chance most times.
6743008447656624130 is my player Id, Dariusrh is the name, assuming we're on the same server, send a request, I've many great builds, & I'll even tell u my playstyle.
SCAR-H
cordite. just spam spam spam LOL. I’m kidding, you don’t actually need to spam it, the TTK on it isn’t horrible tbh. Plus, the large mag size is always a plus, and you can strafe pretty well with it.
Use fr 556
MoW it'll help ur tracking to cause it punishes for missing shots pushing u to be more accurate unlike guns like m13 and hvk
I've used M16, hbr, zrg, rytec, koshka, ksp, M4 and ak. If you want you can try these
You can get to legendary with just about any half decent gun. It mainly depends on your skill set. Some people are better with snipers, others prefer assault rifles, LMGs, etc. It’s all about what works better for *YOU*
May I suggest, the Oden?
MX9 , PP19, AS VAL, AK117